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Nov 17, 2017 7:07 AM

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beyond garbage production value as usual.
hiro is the hero we all need.
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Nov 17, 2017 7:14 AM

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Hiro goes SKRRRAA PA PA
Nov 17, 2017 7:15 AM

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UnleashTheGoat said:
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I agree with Kadiro.

Hiro needs to be stopped completely. Anyone who will murder like that is stone cold fucked up.

You guys really haven't understood what Heretic's saying have you? He's not saying that Hiro isn't bad, he's not saying he prefers black-and-white morality. Heretic's saying that Hiro's character establishment and development is badly done, which makes him unable to care about what's happening because, you know, bad writing does that. That's kind of it.
Exactly. I can see things that might provide info on why Hiro is the way he is; possibly emotionally unstable (even before this episode) or even a bad upbringing by his parents. But at the same time, his character is written pretty inconsistently and there’s nothing to confirm that evidence. Like looking at his mother, she seems like a very good role model for Hiro to look up to who would’ve taught him valuable life lessons as such. Same goes for the dad and his step family. So where is the catalyst for Hiro to become this mass muderer?
Nov 17, 2017 7:24 AM
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Ah yes, I've was looking forward to seeing this adapted and MAPPA did very good by it. It sucks that Hiro's mom committed suicide but it was pretty great seeing how Hiro disposed of all the 2chan users that laughed at her death. Now no technology is safe to use.

Very excited for the next episode.
Nov 17, 2017 8:19 AM

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An episode slamming on the media, no matter traditional media like TV or relatively new ones like Internet forums (2ch). TV reporters/ analysts making a great fuss over an essay Hiro wrote as a primary kid, crowding Hiro's parents in front of their houses. Internet... all the 2ch trolls shown.

Hiro's father telling his son not to shoot him after witnessing the killing spree, same as saying Hiro would no longer have any parents.

Incorporating smartphones into brain and shooting through screens and dimension discovered in this episode. Is there any limit to this super power of Hiro and Inuyashiki?
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Nov 17, 2017 8:36 AM
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Nov 17, 2017 8:43 AM
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Was i supposed to feel any sympathy for Hiro in this episode? Because i sure as hell cant. Hiro actions were what lead his mother to commit suicide. The media and the trolls might had made the whole situation worse, but is still ultimatly Hiro fault that all this happened.
No matter how much the guy cry or make his killings seem any justifiable, this was still a horrible way to make your audience care for a antagonist.
Nov 17, 2017 9:02 AM
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The air bullets probably came from the phone's and laptop's speaker. Maybe he need to make the "bang" sound for each bullet fire.
Nov 17, 2017 9:36 AM

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i like the episode but how the trolls died threw me off. it just doesn't make any sense. how can air get from him to a smartphone. I know that with aliens and robots i shouldn't look for realism but it has to make sense somehow.
Nov 17, 2017 9:52 AM
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Hiro should have realised that killing people is not the right thing to do. I think it would be best if Hiro apologised through the media, to the family of every single person he had killed, his father, Inuyashiki,and his best friend. Then he should help Inuyashiki to cure diseases all across the world instead of turning himself to the police, since the government might instead tries to do some experiments on him in order to create destructive weapons. So i don't think those 2chan trollers deserve to be killed, but instead let them realise that trolling people and bullying people on the internet is not the right thing to do. Perhaps Hiro can Upload those secret files from their computers.

Btw, this episode is quite enjoyable for me especially the psychological factor with Hiro and Inuyashiki being seen by an astronaut.

5/5 I loved it
Nov 17, 2017 10:12 AM

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So this episode is the one shown in the opening, ever since the yakuza episode I've been wondering why Hiro was shown crying while killing so many, guess I know now.

Same here. i wonder about it before but now we know it is because of his mom.

The finger usb port scene was funny and cute. I really feel bad for Hiro's mom the most and his dad too. She just recovered from cancer but died by suicide because of Hiro's fault to begin with. Those trolls indeed are assholes but damn .. the body count was too many in this episode. Thank God that Shion and her grandma still alive.
I can't wait to see how Inuyashiki dealing with Hiro. 5 episodes left.
Nov 17, 2017 10:38 AM

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Exactly. I can see things that might provide info on why Hiro is the way he is; possibly emotionally unstable (even before this episode) or even a bad upbringing by his parents. But at the same time, his character is written pretty inconsistently and there’s nothing to confirm that evidence. Like looking at his mother, she seems like a very good role model for Hiro to look up to who would’ve taught him valuable life lessons as such. Same goes for the dad and his step family. So where is the catalyst for Hiro to become this mass muderer?


There is no inconsistency at all. Hiro was born a psychopath that only cares about the people he knows (family and close friends). No idea how is this hard to understand. Seeing people calling "bad writting" to stuff they do not comprehend is always hilarious. Never change MAL.
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Demonneo said:
amk_2397 said:
Exactly. I can see things that might provide info on why Hiro is the way he is; possibly emotionally unstable (even before this episode) or even a bad upbringing by his parents. But at the same time, his character is written pretty inconsistently and there’s nothing to confirm that evidence. Like looking at his mother, she seems like a very good role model for Hiro to look up to who would’ve taught him valuable life lessons as such. Same goes for the dad and his step family. So where is the catalyst for Hiro to become this mass muderer?


There is no inconsistency at all. Hiro was born a psychopath that only cares about the people he knows (family and close friends). No idea how is this hard to understand. Seeing people calling "bad writting" to stuff they do not comprehend is always hilarious. Never change MAL.
First off, did not know that you could be born a psychopath so I’ll tip my hat to you there. Secondly, yeah it’s incredibly evident that Hiro only cares for the people that are close to him. Like it surprised me when people were saying how surprised they were by how much Hiro cares about his mother. And third, maybe inconsistent isn’t the right word. More like he’s just not that compelling. I mean he isn’t the worst antagonist I’ve seen but definitely seen better.
Nov 17, 2017 12:51 PM
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İ have never been satistified more than this episode among all 20 minutes i have spend on internet.
Nov 17, 2017 1:28 PM

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Sorry everyone but I can't empathize with Hiro, Sure he killed those annoying internet trolls, yet he is an incredibly inconsistent character, he goes from a serial killer to a cry baby and back to a Serial Killer without almost any development. And apparently this is up for Anime of the Season/Year? Good joke.

Wrong genre, this is not a shonen where everything is a black and white. Characters have personality, even the bad guys.


Exactly shounen fans just missing the usual sob story expressed through at 50 filler episode "he are good at heart, however suffered so much injustice beforehand and turned to dark side"
Nov 17, 2017 1:58 PM

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amk_2397 said:
Exactly. I can see things that might provide info on why Hiro is the way he is; possibly emotionally unstable (even before this episode) or even a bad upbringing by his parents. But at the same time, his character is written pretty inconsistently and there’s nothing to confirm that evidence. Like looking at his mother, she seems like a very good role model for Hiro to look up to who would’ve taught him valuable life lessons as such. Same goes for the dad and his step family. So where is the catalyst for Hiro to become this mass muderer?

I kinda understand why people are surprised about Hiro's kinds toward the people he cared about. In anime, most villains are usually very danger to their own circle/people let alone outsiders. Either their survival is greater than the people they care about or their goal is, either way one way or another, you'll see them using them and then disposing them when they achieve their goal. So it's rare to find an antagonist that treats normal with their family and friends and at the same time still be a hypocrite villain and do evil things at outside. He's the perfect definition of Sociopath. So it's a rare to find this kind of villain characters in anime.
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Nov 17, 2017 2:13 PM
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I have three big issues with the series so far. since I have no friends to discuss with I hope that someone can explain to me these problems.
1. How arent are there cameras set up to easily see them flying through the air? I would imagine that it would go viral...
2. I thought Hiro had the ability to hear the police line, how didnt he know that they were coming for him?
3.Why wouldnt he take his mom with him when he started running?
I just thought of a fourth one.
4. How did the cops figure out it was him? In his words, the bullets were traceless and he was pretty confident that nobody would find it.
Nov 17, 2017 2:14 PM

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Reactions on 4chan are hilarious lmao

Where can I read said reactions?

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Guess Hiro doesn't know how to dab on the haters

Wow.
http://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/164765887 this is the 2nd thread
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Nov 17, 2017 2:34 PM
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Although it's not great development, I think that Hiro isn't going to kill random people but people who he feels were "responsible" for his mother's death since he was going to stop killing people before all that happened. The trolls didn't deserve it but they were taking the piss even though Hiro brought it to himself. Still like him way more than the old guy though, I think Hiro has shown to be a more interesting character within the last couple episodes.
Nov 17, 2017 2:47 PM

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Got some real Death Note vibes from this episode. Can't wait to see more.
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Nov 17, 2017 3:17 PM

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So he ended up shacking up with that girl and her grandma for a bit.

And his mother killed herself because trolls were blaming her and the media was harassing her. I don't care who you are, but if you find out your mother killed herself (because of something you did) from watching the news...god, I can't think of anything worse.

It's ironic though. I mean, Hiro started killing to feel something, but now he's killing precisely because he feels something- hatred towards the internet trolls and paparazzi that harassed his mother.
I mean, he's getting his just desserts after all the innocents he's slaughtered but I still felt for him this episode. Somehow.
prolly cuz he's hot
Prolly cuz he comes across as a lost, screwed up guy who's not necessarily evil (the internet trolls had more malice than him, after all) but doesn't give a crap about anyone aside from his parents and maybe Andou. Someone with barely any emotion is the scariest thing of all.

We've still got 5 episodes to go, so I'm wondering what's gonna happen. I mean, that's nearly half of the series left! I would've expected this sort of thing to happen in the last 2 episodes or something, so I have no idea what to expect now!

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Nov 17, 2017 3:41 PM

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Shooting out from a normal screen? Really? -_-
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Nov 17, 2017 3:47 PM

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Inuyashiki in space was hilarious. You can tell the astronaut was like WTF? xD

This episode was brutal. But the "Dadadadadada!" scene was funny.

Now Hiro is "cleaning up" 2chan from trolls.

Nov 17, 2017 4:16 PM

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Yep. He really lost it. He REALLY lost it this time. His mother killed herself (like she said she would in this situation), and Hiro has just completely lost any filter to his actions. He wants everyone and anyone to die. It got intense. He's seriously dangerous now. Our hero must stop him!!
Nov 17, 2017 6:25 PM

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^How dare his son said that! He didn't sound worried for Inuyashiki at all.
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Nov 17, 2017 7:14 PM

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Killing people through monitor? Nice superpower

Nov 17, 2017 7:28 PM

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^How dare his son said that! He didn't sound worried for Inuyashiki at all.
I would rape his daughter.
Nov 17, 2017 8:36 PM
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How is cyber killing even real hahahahahahh just walk away from the screen man hahaahahahah, like just close your eyes hahahahahahahaha

This anime intrigues me because Hiro is an incredibly edgy character for no reason and i have 0 symphaty for him. He deserves every single thing that happened to him, even the insults. I wonder how the plot will develop now that he has nothing to lose, well maybe there is that girl that let him live with her.

Though i like how this anime is so random at times and it isnt afraid to show gore although its made for shock factor... that moment when Hiro asked girl about the parents was kind of weird and only sad part in this episode

In the end what happens is i like part of the episode, then the other part becomes extremely edgy that i cant even believe that someone would make it like that. Its like a big rollercoaster of liking the anime or not, and as it progresses, more people die, hope we see more MCs involved too. But hopefully ending wont be horrible as one in Seikaisuru Kado because for some reason, lack of emotion in this anime or some secret charm reminds me of it. Maybe its the feeling that whole world is about to be destroyed by Hiro because nothing can stop him
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Nov 17, 2017 10:17 PM

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These magic science fiction powers are just getting dumb. I mean it was always dumb, but now it's really taking me out of the experience
Nov 17, 2017 11:51 PM
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Hiro shoulda just let them arrest him. How are they gonna prove he killed them? His lack of character really helps him here. No motive, no weapon, just circumstantial evidence. And worst case he coulda just busted out.
I swear the OP gets better every time I see it.
Old woman harboring the suspect of 15 murders, in a house with just her and her granddaughter, makes sense. Guess she just really hates those "oppressive pigs". There's not an old person alive that doesn't listen to the radio, or tv or newspaper for news. That and do crossword puzzles.
That, right there, is the future of connectivity. Too bad the audio quality is really bad.
Hahaha that astronaut scene was great!
Lmao what the fuck is up with that machine gun? Let's be honest though, the news people deserved it.
This power of his is starting to get real questionable. What would happen if he just turned the monitor around?
Too much focus on Hiro this episode. Not enough on Inuyashiki.
Nov 18, 2017 12:51 AM
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Wow wow wow! This is turning out to be quite the masterpiece for me. It might be straightforward (yet at the same time it's really not, depending on how much you're reading into it) and cliche but I totally enjoyed it.. once again.
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Nov 18, 2017 1:08 AM
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I am just excited to see Hiro and
inuyashiki meet face to face again!
Nov 18, 2017 1:21 AM

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The second coming of Kira invading 4chan

>Such blasphemy




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Nov 18, 2017 4:52 AM

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I'm not sure why exactly are people questioning him being able to kill through a computer screen. This the guy who kill people saying "bang".

In any case, it's interesting to finally see Hiro finally losing it after his mother's suicide. Now he is just acting in anger against the media harassment and online trolls.

This is probably the first time any situation has escalated where there's a sense of danger on Hiro getting his identity revealed and a legitimate sense there might be progression to had here. How Inuyashiki resolves this will definitely be the deciding factor on how I feel on this series (because face it there won't be another arc given the pace of this series so far). There's Inuyashiki who is supposedly trying to stop him, but will he stop if Hiro decides never to kill again? Or will it conclude with Hiro's exile/death? Perhaps for whatever reason the world wouldn't want him to catch him anymore?
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It was surprisingly satisfying to see all the shitposters getting killed off.
But the CG took a heavy hit in quality.
Nov 18, 2017 8:03 AM

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I really liked the focus on Hiro. He's just an edgy psychopath that doesn't make much sense, but I still could relate to how he felt this episode. The media was portrayed pretty realistically also. And that guy at the end was basically all the 4chan community in a nutshell (maybe not quiet, but still it was very funny).

4/5
Nov 18, 2017 10:23 AM

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I have three big issues with the series so far. since I have no friends to discuss with I hope that someone can explain to me these problems.
1. How arent are there cameras set up to easily see them flying through the air? I would imagine that it would go viral...
2. I thought Hiro had the ability to hear the police line, how didnt he know that they were coming for him?
3.Why wouldnt he take his mom with him when he started running?
I just thought of a fourth one.
4. How did the cops figure out it was him? In his words, the bullets were traceless and he was pretty confident that nobody would find it.


I'll just gonna try answer the questions as good as I can.
1. But on the other hand nobody knows that there are super heroes around, so they would probably only film them accidently. But even if they would upload something like that, how many people would believe it? I guess many would say it is just a fake or something.
But there was one scene in the manga that wasn't shown in the anime when Inuyashiki cured that boy in the hospital and escaped and was later catched by an doctor outside of the hospital that knew what he did and asked him to cure more patients and that he would keep it a secret. So it is not like people are completly unaware of them either.
2. I guess it works the same way as Inuyashiki ability to hear other peoples voices and that he needs to activate it. So I'll guess he wasn't even listening to it as he was sure that nobody would ever find him.
3. While being a robot he still has a somewhat human side, so I'll guess he just paniced there. But even if he did, he still would need to give her an reasonable answer on why he did so. She already foreshadowed that she would kill herself if Hiro turns out to be a killer, when he asked her, so it may wouldn't really change anything.
4. However there may have been people seeing him walking out of a strangers house right after killings occurred, maybe someone has seen him shooting another person or maybe he was catched on a security camera. Even if he just uses his finger it may have looked like that he used a gun from the position of the witness.

The answers are more like my interpretation of the situation so they could still be wrong or something.
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The second coming of Kira invading 4chan

>Such blasphemy


Yes Kira lives! He lives! And was reincarnated into Hiro.
"The Hero we need" (:
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Nov 18, 2017 2:47 PM

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4CHAN ON SUICIDE WATCH!!!
hahahahahahaha, omg, Hiro is the real Hero.

I feel bad for his mom, she did nothing wrong.
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It doesn't seem as stupid that he "shoots" people over the monitors. because he isn't actually shooting anything in the traditional sense of the word.

I think that Hiro is controlling the air or he has some sort of kinetic energy director.

He's not shooting anything from his fingers, but his Alienbot systems are controlling atoms in the air and moving them at extreme speeds. It's alien technology after all.
Nov 18, 2017 3:28 PM

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I may get called a psychopath, but I liked the part where Hiro started killing the internet trolls
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It was more like death note when Hiro was going after the trolls. Pretty neat.

It was also pretty funny when he mowed down the reporters with a pretend machine gun while making machine gun noises. LOL
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Not bad this episode. We got more focus on Hiro and old man Inuyashiki from both sides.
I'm impressed at how they show what their new powers are capable of. In particular, Inuyashiki was even show flowing in space.

Hiro is on his killing spree again except this time, it's even worse with the body counts. He really reached a new low ever since her mother got involved in all this drama.

Good psychology this episode. It reall bought out Hiro's behavior more and how he is accepting his powers.


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Nov 18, 2017 11:53 PM

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Cleaning the internet, What a hero Hiro! " I am trolling lol" haha
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Hiro put 2chan on notice
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Hiro's completely lost it after his mother's suicide. Well, not that it's anything unexpected, but that was still brutal and bloody as hell. But who cares for these bunch of trolls anyway.


I can't get over how this is the prevailing sentiment on this discussion thread right now. Yes, they were a bunch of nasty, insensitive people (and pedo) but he KILLED them. When did being a total asshole on the internet or even in life, get to be something that deserves the death penalt;, no trial, no jury, just a bigger and more powerful asshole than you meting a brutal death out? Sure, if they were somehow set up to be arrested for cyberbullying it would be fair, but no one deserves to be assassinated over what they did.

I think that is what is turning out to be most interesting about this series; the reactions of us viewers. One episode focuses on the good guy, and everyone is all sentimental and happy, then one focuses on the bad guy and suddenly everyone is out for blood and laughing in total identification with a psychopath (personally, I find those episodes boring because they are so one note; death, more death, a little more death, hey, let's kill another person doing their job, yada yada, yada). It shows how easily influenced and manipulated we are by what we see in the media.
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As much as he's a cunt this was one of the most...refreshing...? scenes I've ever seen in anime.
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LMA said:
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Hiro's completely lost it after his mother's suicide. Well, not that it's anything unexpected, but that was still brutal and bloody as hell. But who cares for these bunch of trolls anyway.


I can't get over how this is the prevailing sentiment on this discussion thread right now. Yes, they were a bunch of nasty, insensitive people (and pedo) but he KILLED them. When did being a total asshole on the internet or even in life, get to be something that deserves the death penalt;, no trial, no jury, just a bigger and more powerful asshole than you meting a brutal death out? Sure, if they were somehow set up to be arrested for cyberbullying it would be fair, but no one deserves to be assassinated over what they did.

I think that is what is turning out to be most interesting about this series; the reactions of us viewers. One episode focuses on the good guy, and everyone is all sentimental and happy, then one focuses on the bad guy and suddenly everyone is out for blood and laughing in total identification with a psychopath (personally, I find those episodes boring because they are so one note; death, more death, a little more death, hey, let's kill another person doing their job, yada yada, yada). It shows how easily influenced and manipulated we are by what we see in the media.


I beg to differ but Hiro's scenes are the most thought provoking and entertaining in the series. This is probably attributed to the fact that Inuyashiki is so one note as you would like to call it. Also, this episode is a very anticipated scene which you don't see much in anime and so you will have focus discussions on it. Personally, my favorite parts are the emotional scenes. Hiro was crying throughout the episode and doesn't have much dialogue, but you can feel that he is thinking a lot of things and the silence just upping the tension when you anticipate his every move.
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This episode was brutal. I can tell the show's really picking up, can't wait to see Inuyashiki VS Shishigami.

The jumps between 3D CGI and 2D animation are still really jarring though.
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I can't get over how this is the prevailing sentiment on this discussion thread right now. Yes, they were a bunch of nasty, insensitive people (and pedo) but he KILLED them. When did being a total asshole on the internet or even in life, get to be something that deserves the death penalt;, no trial, no jury, just a bigger and more powerful asshole than you meting a brutal death out? Sure, if they were somehow set up to be arrested for cyberbullying it would be fair, but no one deserves to be assassinated over what they did.

I think that is what is turning out to be most interesting about this series; the reactions of us viewers. One episode focuses on the good guy, and everyone is all sentimental and happy, then one focuses on the bad guy and suddenly everyone is out for blood and laughing in total identification with a psychopath (personally, I find those episodes boring because they are so one note; death, more death, a little more death, hey, let's kill another person doing their job, yada yada, yada). It shows how easily influenced and manipulated we are by what we see in the media.


I beg to differ but Hiro's scenes are the most thought provoking and entertaining in the series. This is probably attributed to the fact that Inuyashiki is so one note as you would like to call it. Also, this episode is a very anticipated scene which you don't see much in anime and so you will have focus discussions on it. Personally, my favorite parts are the emotional scenes. Hiro was crying throughout the episode and doesn't have much dialogue, but you can feel that he is thinking a lot of things and the silence just upping the tension when you anticipate his every move.


Inuyashiki is shown with a very bland perspective. Anyone on his side is just, and everyone against him is a monster. Even the one scene where he did something questionable, torturing the gang to the point they want to commit suicide, was depicted as "oh I had to do it for the greater good." and "He didn't actually do it, he was unconcious."
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