| Talking about the whole series here. For me: - The three annoying leads. Naruto was kind of annoying since the beginning, always thinking he knows better and just being bratty overall but overall he was still ok. He became much worse in Shippuuden once he couldnt stop obsessing over Sasuke and lusting after him like his life depended on it (basically ruined the Sai and Kage summit arcs imho). Sasuke was honestly good in the original series but once he went all edgy there was no coming back (especially the days where he wanted to kill all of Konoha) but he did and thats just silly. Sakura..I dont think I need to say anything, just a pathetic awful character all around. - Wasting good side characters. Anyone remember Neji or Lee? After all their development in Part 1 they were awful in Shippuuden. Hell the Konoha 11 in general were wasted. - Atrocious romances that prove Shounen writers need to stay away from that. Naruto x Hinata is already bad enough (the former never showed any interest, the latter's whole character was basically about him) but Sasuke x Sakura is toxic and cheap in every way. Dude tried to kill her multiple times, never cared for her and then suddenly marriage and love? - The final war. Kishimoto didnt show any balls when the "war" was against plants and zombies (edo tensei was a huge mistake) instead of real people. And then it went on for like a third of the series, switched the main villian 3 times (Obito to Madara to Kaguya, all three are awful and lacking in character.) - No matter what you did you were forgiven and thats cheap. Naruto saying about Obito: "He was the coolest guy", sure was cool that he let the Nine tails loose on Konoha and indirectly murdered your parents which fucked your life..right? Or how Orochimaru was completely forgiven after all the sick experiments he did (and killing the third Hokage). Talk no Jutsu was also a serious problem (especially with Pain and Obito) - the power creep..especially in the war it basically turned into DBZ with ninja's. Naruto had like 3 power ups in the war alone and it just got more ridiculous as it progressed |
Aardwolf94Nov 3, 2017 5:07 PM
| Remove Sasuke from the Series. There, much better. |
| The series was good at first (Naruto part 1), but it went to shit after pain arc. |
Shrimperor said: Delude yourself with that.Remove Sasuke from the Series. There, much better. |
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| Focusing too much on Naruto and Sasuke and their relationship was definitely a mistake. Sasuke is an awful character, probably the worst in the series. Naruto was okay until his sole motivation in life was about getting back Sasuke. One of the best parts of part 2 was when Shikamaru got his own little arc. More side characters should have gotten that kind of development, at least one member per team. Would have been great to see Rock Lee (a big fan favourite) and Hinata (to flesh out her character and romance with Naruto) get something to do. Another mistake I think was introducing the whole ninja mythology with gods and reincarnations and all of that. At least the way it was executed was awful. I feel the early character arc of Naruto is ruined by him being "the chosen one" at the end of the series. |
| -Sasuke -The whole ninja/samurai thing turned me personally off -Sasuke -Sasuke |
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Fantalicious said: Focusing too much on Naruto and Sasuke and their relationship was definitely a mistake. Sasuke is an awful character, probably the worst in the series. Naruto was okay until his sole motivation in life was about getting back Sasuke. One of the best parts of part 2 was when Shikamaru got his own little arc. More side characters should have gotten that kind of development, at least one member per team. Would have been great to see Rock Lee (a big fan favourite) and Hinata (to flesh out her character and romance with Naruto) get something to do. Another mistake I think was introducing the whole ninja mythology with gods and reincarnations and all of that. At least the way it was executed was awful. I feel the early character arc of Naruto is ruined by him being "the chosen one" at the end of the series. Rock Lee & Neji and Hinata definitely deserved their own smaller arcs. By the time Neji actually died I didn't care at all considering how he barely appeared in Shippuuden |
| There is honestly too many to pin down but I think this is the few that killed it for me. - Team 7 had very little build up in their relationship, they're the core of the series and the crux yet they show no time spent; yes they have more in the anime filler but it's a joke that these 3 especially Naruto and Sakura are suppose to adore Sasuke (which is a joke unto itself) yet the barrel is bottomless, especially on Sakura's end but Naruto and Sasuke who are suppose to have this shared connection don't really have much reason to put their morals on the line for each other by part 2. - Female characters are shit and never win any battles on their own. Correct me if I'm wrong but unless two females are fighting one another or the Sakura/Chiyo vs Sasori battle, no woman in the series wins a battle on her own. It's depressing and I hate it. - The Rookie 9 + Team Gai are majorly sidelined unless they're needed for a mission, we get no perspective on them yet Kishi presses great importance on the "next generation" who'll lead the era of peace garbage. - Akatsuki which I believe were the most interesting and coolest part were hardly expanded on, we get their one arc and then they're dead and that's it, we get no time spent, they're mostly just the bad guys even though they always were much more interesting then the konaha team. - The politics and countries were hardly tapped into. They're more expanded in the anime I guess but we only get certain aspects of certain "going ons" through dialogue and general backstory, none of this is conveyed to us organically. - Emphasis on the Uchiha clan and most importantly the sharingan and it getting so bloated through the series is also a major fuck up. It should've just been as equal to something like the byakugan but it just got way to powerful by the end. - Power levels are so immensely outrageous by the end of the story that it makes them look more like gods then ninja which is just, dumb. - The romance at the end sucks. I would've been okay with Naruto and Hinata at least if any of it was built up but Naruto is very unaware of Hinata until the war arc and even then we have to get this separate movie just to explain to us why they love one another, it couldn't be conveyed clear enough in the manga? Sasuke and Sakura makes no sense, seriously fuck all that. - The War Arc and all the ass pulls of the century. Why Kishi. WHY. It's been years since I've read it but yeah. And yeah I'm aware lots of these problems were Kishi editors and not him, himself but damn it almost seems like a former shell of itself when you reach the later arcs of part 2. |
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Corvus8 said: -Sasuke -The whole ninja/samurai thing turned me personally off -Sasuke -Sasuke You forgot someone..damn it i can't remember his name...oh yeah, Sasuke |
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| GodlyTasteManga said: StrangerMist said: The series was good at first (Naruto part 1), but it went to shit after pain arc. WRONG. We got the best fights in the war arc. Kabuto vs. Itachi, Madara vs. Alliance, i can keep going Most fights were too ridiculous to take seriously, just power creep at its worst (Kabuto vs Itachi was good though). And what about the actual story which was just awful. The whole idea of a war against zombies and plants was bad & bringing back so many characters only to get rid of them in cheap ways lazy. Then we had the main villian switch like 3 times and all of them suck ass. Obito "muh Rin" is a bitch, Madara is like a DBZ villian and I dont know wtf Kaguya was. It was dragged out (a third of the series), most side characters were shafted, reincarnation shit etc. These aren't insignificant flaws. Change your username, it doesn't fit since you are the one who likes shit. |
| OK so I haven't seen Naruto since I was about 8 (so about 12 years going onto 13) so sorry if I'm not up to date really. I did go back and tried watching it again but I couldn't really take it in a sense, no offense to any fans but the beginning was rough (imo) but that's to be expected. The big things that kind of bothered me personally was probably Naruto getting hit by Sakura for stupid things and Naruto trying to help or get Sasuke to go back with him to the village (I know he does and everything which is nice but imo it took quite sometime). I don't recall if I ever technically saw any but I've heard the fillers are really annoying sometimes (I can't judge though since I haven't seen them and also I watch all the Bleach ones.) The things that probably got me not bad but I guess upset if I can even call it that was Sasuke killing definitely one of my faves (when I used to watch) Itachi. I still don't really get the whole Naruto wearing orange since he's a ninja and all and also the arms behind there back running (not impotent but I'm a noob when it comes to Naruto I'm just confused with that. Oh and I don't know how well it pand out really but I remember I really hated Sakura alot even at the age I was. Theirs more I could say if I could remember them properly but I don't think I really can sorry. The last episode I watched was when Sasuke and Naruto fought each other at the waterfalls (I think) when Sasuke used I think both sharingan's and Naruto used 3 or 4 of his foxtails demon power (god I know I must be triggering some people with this sorry again). EDIT: I am willing to give it another chance maybe since 3 of the seasons are on netflix I'm just curious is it worth it? |
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GodlyTasteManga said: animefan0071 said: OK so I haven't seen Naruto since I was about 8 (so about 12 years going onto 13) so sorry if I'm not up to date really. I did go back and tried watching it again but I couldn't really take it in a sense, no offense to any fans but the beginning was rough (imo) but that's to be expected. The big things that kind of bothered me personally was probably Naruto getting hit by Sakura for stupid things and Naruto trying to help or get Sasuke to go back with him to the village (I know he does and everything which is nice but imo it took quite sometime). I don't recall if I ever technically saw any but I've heard the fillers are really annoying sometimes (I can't judge though since I haven't seen them and also I watch all the Bleach ones.) The things that probably got me not bad but I guess upset if I can even call it that was Sasuke killing definitely one of my faves (when I used to watch) Itachi. I still don't really get the whole Naruto wearing orange since he's a ninja and all and also the arms behind there back running (not impotent but I'm a noob when it comes to Naruto I'm just confused with that. Oh and I don't know how well it pand out really but I remember I really hated Sakura alot even at the age I was. Theirs more I could say if I could remember them properly but I don't think I really can sorry. The last episode I watched was when Sasuke and Naruto fought each other at the waterfalls (I think) when Sasuke used I think both sharingan's and Naruto used 3 or 4 of his foxtails demon power (god I know I must be triggering some people with this sorry again). EDIT: I am willing to give it another chance maybe since 3 of the seasons are on netflix I'm just curious is it worth it? Duh its worth it. Naruto is the best anime to exist. TO EXIST I say! Any nay sayers can neet me @ haters.com Watch better anime. Anyway @animefan0071 I don't think its worth it, the second half is even worse and apart from like 2 arcs its just lackluster. |
Madao_Uchiha said: Aardwolf94 said: Watch better anime. Anyway @animefan0071 I don't think its worth it, the second half is even worse and apart from like 2 arcs its just lackluster. You are retaded? How the hell is Naruto not worth it. And its not lackluster at all, like are you drunk?!?! Whats with all these Naruto tards all of a sudden? So just because I think Naruto was lackluster and not worth it I'm retarded and drunk? Not going to bother replying any further if you won't act more mature. I already explained Naruto's flaws in my OP, as did others. |
| Summon @vatsal_jiraiya Your favorite anime is being attacked! And some people brought up really good points :D Maybe you want to defend and counter them? OT: *note that I dropped Shippuuden right after Team Shikamaru vs Kakuzu/Hidan I usually don't nitpick on things too much. So the only thing that bothers me enough in Naruto Series is the the main characters. - Naruto is annoying at first, I'm not a fan of dumb characters (I don't really like Luffy, but he has his moments, weird enough though, I really like Natsu even though he is also a dumb shounen protagonist lol), but he is okay later on. I started to like him in Shippuuden. - Sasuke. Where to begin. I usually like brooding, stoic, arrogant characters, but he just annoyed me. - Sakura. The deal breaker for me. She is just downright unbearable. Erase her then I might consider rewatching Naruto and give it proper attention. |
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Aardwolf94 said: GodlyTasteManga said: WRONG. We got the best fights in the war arc. Kabuto vs. Itachi, Madara vs. Alliance, i can keep going Most fights were too ridiculous to take seriously, just power creep at its worst (Kabuto vs Itachi was good though). And what about the actual story which was just awful. The whole idea of a war against zombies and plants was bad & bringing back so many characters only to get rid of them in cheap ways lazy. Then we had the main villian switch like 3 times and all of them suck ass. Obito "muh Rin" is a bitch, Madara is like a DBZ villian and I dont know wtf Kaguya was. It was dragged out (a third of the series), most side characters were shafted, reincarnation shit etc. These aren't insignificant flaws. Change your username, it doesn't fit since you are the one who likes shit. The Akatsuki also had great potential to be the final villians, but instead Kishimoto threw them to the curb and replaced them with villians that sucked (mostly Obito and Kaguya). In addition, there's also this next generation bullcrap and Studio Pierrot is milking this franchise to oblivion. Overall, its a disappointing manga. |
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StrangerMist said: Aardwolf94 said: Most fights were too ridiculous to take seriously, just power creep at its worst (Kabuto vs Itachi was good though). And what about the actual story which was just awful. The whole idea of a war against zombies and plants was bad & bringing back so many characters only to get rid of them in cheap ways lazy. Then we had the main villian switch like 3 times and all of them suck ass. Obito "muh Rin" is a bitch, Madara is like a DBZ villian and I dont know wtf Kaguya was. It was dragged out (a third of the series), most side characters were shafted, reincarnation shit etc. These aren't insignificant flaws. Change your username, it doesn't fit since you are the one who likes shit. The Akatsuki also had great potential to be the final villians, but instead Kishimoto threw them to the curb and replaced them with villians that sucked (mostly Obito and Kaguya). In addition, there's also this next generation bullcrap and Studio Pierrot is milking this franchise to oblivion. Definitely, the Akatsuki were by the most interesting part of Part 2 (very diverse group with everyone having their own agenda and goals, also had a threatening vibe tot hem) but then Kishimoto wasted them and killed most members off way too fast. Tobi should never have taken off his mask, as soon as he did he turned into a whiny bitch who couldn't stop whining about Rin. And Kaguya just came out of nowhere and was clearly introduced to set up Boruto |
Shicchi said: Summon @vatsal_jiraiya Your favorite anime is being attacked! And some people brought up really good points :D Maybe you want to defend and counter them? OT: *note that I dropped Shippuuden right after Team Shikamaru vs Kakuzu/Hidan I usually don't nitpick on things too much. So the only thing that bothers me enough in Naruto Series is the the main characters. - Naruto is annoying at first, I'm not a fan of dumb characters (I don't really like Luffy, but he has his moments, weird enough though, I really like Natsu even though he is also a dumb shounen protagonist lol), but he is okay later on. I started to like him in Shippuuden. - Sasuke. Where to begin. I usually like brooding, stoic, arrogant characters, but he just annoyed me. - Sakura. The deal breaker for me. She is just downright unbearable. Erase her then I might consider rewatching Naruto and give it proper attention. You just stopped before the best Naruto arc (at least in my opinion) but I definitely get your complaints. Sakura is just terribly written and very unpopular for good reasons. |
Aardwolf94 said: Shicchi said: Summon @vatsal_jiraiya Your favorite anime is being attacked! And some people brought up really good points :D Maybe you want to defend and counter them? OT: *note that I dropped Shippuuden right after Team Shikamaru vs Kakuzu/Hidan I usually don't nitpick on things too much. So the only thing that bothers me enough in Naruto Series is the the main characters. - Naruto is annoying at first, I'm not a fan of dumb characters (I don't really like Luffy, but he has his moments, weird enough though, I really like Natsu even though he is also a dumb shounen protagonist lol), but he is okay later on. I started to like him in Shippuuden. - Sasuke. Where to begin. I usually like brooding, stoic, arrogant characters, but he just annoyed me. - Sakura. The deal breaker for me. She is just downright unbearable. Erase her then I might consider rewatching Naruto and give it proper attention. You just stopped before the best Naruto arc (at least in my opinion) but I definitely get your complaints. Sakura is just terribly written and very unpopular for good reasons. Yeah a lot of people told me that. I might consider picking up where I left off but I just felt pretty disconnected with the characters that it's pretty hard for me to care about them. (I really did enjoyed that arc that focused on Team Shikamaru though. Probably because I like his team most.) |
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Shicchi said: Aardwolf94 said: You just stopped before the best Naruto arc (at least in my opinion) but I definitely get your complaints. Sakura is just terribly written and very unpopular for good reasons. Yeah a lot of people told me that. I might consider picking up where I left off but I just felt pretty disconnected with the characters that it's pretty hard for me to care about them. (I really did enjoyed that arc that focused on Team Shikamaru though. Probably because I like his team most.) Agreed, that arc was pretty good and it was nice to see Shikamaru and his team getting some focus. He is definitely more likable than the two leads and Ino improved too (unlike Sakura). And Hidan & Kakuzu were good villians. If you do but be warned that it goes downhill after that again and the last arc of the series is not very well received to say the least. |
| Naruto is probably the worst protagonist I have ever seen. His intentions are not based on experiences he made, which makes his whole purpose not reasonable. Apart from that, the manga has been very inconsistent with its own lore and characters...so yeah... |
Madao_Uchiha said: Aardwolf94 said: Agreed, that arc was pretty good and it was nice to see Shikamaru and his team getting some focus. He is definitely more likable than the two leads and Ino improved too (unlike Sakura). And Hidan & Kakuzu were good villians. If you do but be warned that it goes downhill after that again and the last arc of the series is not very well received to say the least. Hell no. Obito is a great character and youre spouting bullshit. Can't help but notice incredible bias on your posts here, pal. |
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| Best to ignore a guy like that. Dude has zero arguments and is just getting salty over the criticism. |
Aardwolf94 said: Best to ignore a guy like that. Dude has zero arguments and is just getting salty over the criticism. I can see that, lmao. I'll just leave the poor kiddo be. |
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Vatsal_Jiraiya said: @shicchi Thanks for the summon, I agree with the forementioned points and I'd like to add that Kaguya was a useless addition, she just wasted time, the battle wasn't that great, she was unnecessarily involved. And also that Naruto vs Sasuke final battle was good no doubt, but too small, It should have extended a lot more, but it was amazing. Now let's talk about the good points. In Naruto, we have a lot of humour with the sexy jutsu, and also his knuckleheadedness, and we learn a lot from him, as in he is an outcast trying to prove himself and sets a huge goal. He has no one yet he never gives up. The multi shadow clone Jutsu was awesome. Speaking of awesome, third hokage vs Orochimaru was soo good, the summoning Enma part was perhaps the best. Then we had the Naruto vs Sasuke fight which was intense ! Also this series was where Jiraiya was introduced and not to forget the mindfuck Orochimaru gave us. Jiraiya Naruto bond was pretty cool. And kurenai was soo hot. Now shippuden was kinda boring in the beginning, but sasori and deidara Deidara was particularly funny with his splendid quotes on art. This was a sad show because we lost so many characters like Asuma Jiraiya, Negi, the first InoShikaCho, who did not come back to life sadly. (Exclude choja) the kushina arc literally brought tears in my eyes, and the journey of the show was splendid. The last arc was way too long agreed but 3/4th of it was worth it. Madara was so freaking OP, he was too damn cool, no need to mention more, watch his clips again and see yourself. I.e he raping the 5 Kage, raping the entire army, his fight with guy, his fight with hashirama. The Sharingan concept was spectacular, so many of them. Kotoamatsukami, amaterasu, kamui, Susano and so many more cool moves. Kakashi susano was pretty cool. Tsunade is best milf !! Edit: Almost forgot Pain, what a fucker, killed Jiraiya but his fight was cool af. The reverse summoning was orgasmic, and his entrance even better. His training was also worth watching for controlling the nine tails. The only drawback is that he becomes too much of a wuss when he begs during talk no jutsu. I liked Danzo ideals too. I agree with many of your good points. I especially liked Jiraya and Naruto's relationship and the former's death is the most emotional one of the series. Pain was the best antagonist of the series for me, the way he talked about the cycle of hatred etc. was pretty interesting. Didn't like his TnJ end though and him resurrecting everyone was cheap, still overall my favourite arc of the series. Sharingan was cool at first but got out of hand in the second half of Shippuuden imho. It became too OP and ridiculous. Madara may be badass but isn't very interesting to me. Feels like a DBZ villian, there isn't much depth there. Danzo was interesting but I disliked his ending and how Kishimoto used him as a scapegoat for so many "evil" things that happened (Uchiha Massacre, Pain and Yahiko stuff, Kabuto) |
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The worst part is that his character wasn't even relevant for the past 300 episodes (basically all of Part 2) and then they kill him off in such a pathetic manner... |
Aardwolf94 said: The worst part is that his character wasn't even relevant for the past 300 episodes (basically all of Part 2) and then they kill him off in such a pathetic manner... That's quite a shame. Especially since I remember him being this badass in the first season when they were still pre-teens or whatever. He was actually one of my favorites. |
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-Melancholy- said: Aardwolf94 said: Best to ignore a guy like that. Dude has zero arguments and is just getting salty over the criticism. I can see that, lmao. I'll just leave the poor kiddo be. Never thought I would come across a Narutard, lol. |
There seem to be quite a few on MAL all of a sudden. There is this guy, also GodlyTasteManga and FruitlessJuice who all force their "Naruto is the best animu ever" bs |
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Madao_Uchiha said: Jet_Nice_Guy said: Naruto is probably the worst protagonist I have ever seen. His intentions are not based on experiences he made, which makes his whole purpose not reasonable. Apart from that, the manga has been very inconsistent with its own lore and characters...so yeah... you idiots have got to be kidding me. hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahah |
StrangerMist said: Never thought I would come across a Narutard, lol. You better be talking about the guy who got salty about Naruto being a bad anime and not the person who bashed him, lol. Just because you were a little misleading there. |
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