Like, have you ever thought "Shipping A with B would require A to give up on his hopes and dreams" or "What about A's family, friends, and god forbid, girlfriend when they discovers he's gay with everyone's worst enemy?" Considering some people really like to ship characters who hate eachother. |
MortalMelancholyAug 11, 2017 5:17 PM
| Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
| Why should they? It's a fantasy not reality. |
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| When shipping characters together you completely ignore any logical restrictions and just go all out. |
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| Well yeah. It's called pining or angst. Just read some slash Fanfics, you'll see people consider what you've mentioned A LOT. |
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| please refer to my mal title for my opinion |
| ahh.. uhh... implying that non fujoshi is any better... |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| So like, basic story building? Obviously. |
Kuma said: ahh.. uhh... implying that non fujoshi is any better... Geez, you scared me with that avatar. yeah, they are.... |
Felix said: Kuma said: ahh.. uhh... implying that non fujoshi is any better... Geez, you scared me with that avatar. yeah, they are.... what? why? how? what happaned with my avatar? |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| I don't care for any ship that isn't YashiSato, for the most part. |
  WORK IN PROGRESS ~The frog leapt forth to my lilypad memory.~ I was indoctrinated by an inamorata rabbit, Adenomata affronted. It was the verecund, dismissed creatures That I jubilated in most. This rabbit I would nurture, At the aiguille of esse, The anneal of noblesse. ❤️ Birdie ❤️ |
| Why would fujoshis think about the problems of being gay in society when it's normal in BL series to be gay? |
| Anti-Fujoshi here... I am disgusted by everything... ~Good day~ |
| >Considering some people really like to ship characters who hate eachother. tsundere fags .... they think two people who always fighting and insult each other is romantic lol |
tragedydesuAug 10, 2017 3:55 AM
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| It's A and B get put in a certain situation that makes them act differently and everything's different now, so then it just works from there. |
| The real problem are fujoshis who don't have moral qualms about being fujoshi. |
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MortalMelancholy said: Like, have you ever thought "Shipping A with B would require A to give up on his hopes and dreams" or "What about A's family, friends, and god forbid, girlfriend when they discovers he's gay with everyone's worst enemy?" Considering some people really like to ship characters who hate eachother. Okay I had a good laugh out of the fancomic. Thanks for sharing. (It's true, in a way. The fancomic I mean.) Let's get this straight first: 1. Why always the fujoshi? It's the same on every and any ship. Hetero or homo. 2. So if Jane and Mike a sworn enemy, Jane killed Mike's parents, Mike already has a fiancee, is it okay to ship Jane and Mike? 3. The answer is, it depends. There is this thing called: Imagination. Use your imagination to bend the story and make it work. In fanfictions/non-canon realm, YOU are the author. You can make anything work. You can choose to stick to the canon and rake your brain to try to make it work, or you can also abandon the canon and make some Alternate Universe story where the characters are neighbors instead of sworn enemy. I usually prefers canon compliant story though. |
CrimsonMidnightAug 18, 2017 11:55 AM
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| Do fujoshis have morals to begin with? I mean yaoi = sexual abuse/harassment and rape between two guys portrayed as romance most of the time (not always). Fujo terms in non-BL series: Having a fight Fujoshis: It's a lover's quarrel Reality: Actually arguing/fighting over something "He is pretty" Fujoshis: Look, he called him pretty, it's proof that he's gay! It's true love! Kyaaa~ Reality: Boy is just stating facts Not saying "I love you" at all anywhere in the series Fujoshis: The Japanese don't say "I love you" to their spouses, it's understood without words Reality: He really is NOT in love with him Getting a girlfriend/showing interest in girls Fujoshis: He's just lying to himself, he's so gay but just hasn't realized it because he is Japanese! Reality: He really is interested in girls Anime showing gay jokes Fujoshis: It's because the Japanese anime industry is homophobic! It was real romance in the original source! It was canon gay I tell you! Reality: Has been adapted as exactly described in the original source but did not fit the rainbow colored imagination and interpretation of the fujoshis Fan-servive (fujo-baiting/fujo-pandering) Fujoshis: This is rightfully describes the author's true intentions! There's no doubt about it! It was because it was adapted by a different studio Reality: It's adapted by the same darn studio with the very same director and is clear-cut fan-service Fujoshis: The original source is more gay canon Reality: No, it isn't, you just have your heads in the gutter! |
Swagernator said: The real problem are fujoshis who don't have moral qualms about being fujoshi. Please, do educate us on how we should be fixing our lack of moral qualms! OT: It depends on a lot of things and what the fantasy may involve, but in general this kind of fantasy is just for fun and can ignore the reality of the character, yeah. Now, the characters also come from fictional worlds so, I don't think the fantasy is that big of a deal, I would say that when the fantasizing becomes really intrusive and the person can't or doesn't want to distinguish it from reality, that's a problem, but it can happen to non-fujoshi as well. |
密室殺人はなぜ美しいのか。 |
| What does morality have to do with any of this? Most people just adore the relationship building between characters. And as someone who tends to cater to the "two characters who are at each others throats" it's just a layer to the character depth. And what exactly is the problem with that? Y'all only ship canon relationships? Sounds boring. |
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| I am a fujoshi. I don't care about anything. I just ship, starting from anime guys to real guys. |
Maou_heika said: Do fujoshis have morals to begin with? I mean yaoi = sexual abuse/harassment and rape between two guys portrayed as romance most of the time (not always). and YOU have morals? Since when an anime fan have morals? And it's only happened in yaoi? Pfft what a hypocrite. Romanticizing a sexual abuse/harassment and rape is not only in yaoi duh. Look at those Joker x Harley shippers. And like you don't fap to some tentacle rape loli hentai, netorare, incest, bondage and crap. lol I'm not generalizing, I know there are anime fan who is still give a fuck about morals, so sorry if you're one of them. BUT Stop being all righteous. You're no better than them fujoshis. Maou_heika said: Fujo terms in non-BL series: Having a fight Fujoshis: It's a lover's quarrel Reality: Actually arguing/fighting over something "He is pretty" Fujoshis: Look, he called him pretty, it's proof that he's gay! It's true love! Kyaaa~ Reality: Boy is just stating facts Not saying "I love you" at all anywhere in the series Fujoshis: The Japanese don't say "I love you" to their spouses, it's understood without words Reality: He really is NOT in love with him Getting a girlfriend/showing interest in girls Fujoshis: He's just lying to himself, he's so gay but just hasn't realized it because he is Japanese! Reality: He really is interested in girls Anime showing gay jokes Fujoshis: It's because the Japanese anime industry is homophobic! It was real romance in the original source! It was canon gay I tell you! Reality: Has been adapted as exactly described in the original source but did not fit the rainbow colored imagination and interpretation of the fujoshis Fan-servive (fujo-baiting/fujo-pandering) Fujoshis: This is rightfully describes the author's true intentions! There's no doubt about it! It was because it was adapted by a different studio Reality: It's adapted by the same darn studio with the very same director and is clear-cut fan-service Fujoshis: The original source is more gay canon Reality: No, it isn't, you just have your heads in the gutter! Pfft like we care about reality/canon. So what if it's only fan service? So what if it's only a simple argument? People are free to interpret things, duh. I think it's fun and all to imagine things actually happened between the lines. Also, stop generalizing. Not all fujoshis are like that. They are fine too as long as they keep their fantasy to themself and not mixing reality with fantasy. I'm for one, more interested in the bromance and romantic part of the relationship. Also, CANON IS NOT EVERYTHING. Just want to let that out lol. You talk like shipping something not canon is a crime or something. |
CrimsonMidnightAug 23, 2017 10:41 AM
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Shicchi said: Sorry to disappoint you buddy but I'm not into hentai, and I don't fap to anything. All that you've mentioned are the sort of series only boys would usually watch. I pretty much hate all erotic, sexualized and fetishized relationships, I'm not big on romance in general that pretty much applies to both straight and homo. I only like pure, sweet and cute relationships based on mutual feelings. Maou_heika said: Do fujoshis have morals to begin with? I mean yaoi = sexual abuse/harassment and rape between two guys portrayed as romance most of the time (not always). and YOU have morals? Since when an anime fan have morals? And it's only happened in yaoi? Pfft what a hypocrite. Romanticizing a sexual abuse/harassment and rape is not only in yaoi duh. Look at those Joker x Harley shippers. And like you don't fap to some tentacle rape loli hentai, netorare, incest, bondage and crap. lol I'm not generalizing, I know there are anime fan who is still give a fuck about morals, so sorry if you're one of them. BUT Stop being all righteous. You're no better than them fujoshis. Maou_heika said: Fujo terms in non-BL series: Having a fight Fujoshis: It's a lover's quarrel Reality: Actually arguing/fighting over something "He is pretty" Fujoshis: Look, he called him pretty, it's proof that he's gay! It's true love! Kyaaa~ Reality: Boy is just stating facts Not saying "I love you" at all anywhere in the series Fujoshis: The Japanese don't say "I love you" to their spouses, it's understood without words Reality: He really is NOT in love with him Getting a girlfriend/showing interest in girls Fujoshis: He's just lying to himself, he's so gay but just hasn't realized it because he is Japanese! Reality: He really is interested in girls Anime showing gay jokes Fujoshis: It's because the Japanese anime industry is homophobic! It was real romance in the original source! It was canon gay I tell you! Reality: Has been adapted as exactly described in the original source but did not fit the rainbow colored imagination and interpretation of the fujoshis Fan-servive (fujo-baiting/fujo-pandering) Fujoshis: This is rightfully describes the author's true intentions! There's no doubt about it! It was because it was adapted by a different studio Reality: It's adapted by the same darn studio with the very same director and is clear-cut fan-service Fujoshis: The original source is more gay canon Reality: No, it isn't, you just have your heads in the gutter! Pfft like we care about reality/canon. So what if it's only fan service? So what if it's only a simple argument? People are free to interpret things, duh. I think it's fun and all to imagine things actually happened between the lines. Also, stop generalizing. Not all fujoshis are like that. They are fine too as long as they keep their fantasy to themself and not mixing reality with fantasy. I'm for one, more interested in the bromance and romantic part of the relationship. Also, CANON IS NOT EVERYTHING. Just want to let that out lol. You talk like shipping something not canon is a crime or something. |
Mayuka said: Why would fujoshis think about the problems of being gay in society when it's normal in BL series to be gay? Because fujoshi are more likely to ship characters outside BL series(more likely as in there aren't a lot of BL out there)... And their ships usually involve characters straight as an arrow. I really don't care tho, the only reason they upgraded their status from a minor annoyance to a complete piss off to me is because of the Ishida twitter attack and their tendency to force their ship and opinion onto others. Shicchi said: Maou_heika said: Shipping non-canon is definitely not a problem, it only becomes a problem when people use those "imaginative" points as arguments to prove the character as "gay" or to prove their ship as canon and want everyone in the fandom to think the same way. Those points are basically things I constantly keep on hearing from fujoshis.Pfft like we care about reality/canon. So what if it's only fan service? So what if it's only a simple argument? People are free to interpret things, duh. I think it's fun and all to imagine things actually happened between the lines. Also, stop generalizing. Not all fujoshis are like that. They are fine too as long as they keep their fantasy to themself and not mixing reality with fantasy. I'm for one, more interested in the bromance and romantic part of the relationship. Also, CANON IS NOT EVERYTHING. Just want to let that out lol. You talk like shipping something not canon is a crime or something. ^^ This guy accurately describes how they usually force their opinion onto others which can indeed get annoying at times. |
AstZeroAug 23, 2017 11:30 AM
| The beauty of humans is that they say one thing then do another, but at the same time that can also be their ugliest side. |
Maou_heika said: Sorry to disappoint you buddy but I'm not into hentai, and I don't fap to anything. All that you've mentioned are the sort of series only boys would usually watch. I pretty much hate all erotic, sexualized and fetishized relationships, I'm not big on romance in general that pretty much applies to both straight and homo. I only like pure, sweet and cute relationships based on mutual feelings. Oh! Good to know. Wait, you're kinda same as me (I mean, I hate erotic, fetishized stuff too... and I don't watch hentai...). Oh well. But yeah, even I'm not one myself and hate that stuff, there are people who actually likes it and it kind of rub me the wrong way when people just saying BL is the worst thing ever with all the rape and all that as if it's not happening in any other combination too. Maou_heika said: Shipping non-canon is definitely not a problem, it only becomes a problem when people use those "imaginative" points as arguments to prove the character as "gay" or to prove their ship as canon and want everyone in the fandom to think the same way. Those points are basically things I constantly keep on hearing from fujoshis. Lmao where do you get those answers? Tumblr? XP Just ignore them really. Sometimes people likes to force their ship on other people's throat. It happens all the time, fujoshis or not. Actually, especially between fujoshis. *cough*RinHaru vs Makoharu*cough* |
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AstZero said: Because fujoshi are more likely to ship characters outside BL series(more likely as in there aren't a lot of BL out there)... And their ships usually involve characters straight as an arrow. I really don't care tho, the only reason they upgraded their status from a minor annoyance to a complete piss off to me is because of the Ishida twitter attack and their tendency to force their ship and opinion onto others. Because most BL/Yaoi are trash. That's why. Popular series tend to have more developed relationship that's actually focused on the bond that is slowly (and beautifully) developed , thus make the bond deeper and more meaningful. And you can just ignore that kind of fujoshi. It's not like it directly affecting you :/ if anything, it's the other "normal" fujoshis who is getting all the dirt for it. |
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Maou_heika said: Do fujoshis have morals to begin with? I mean yaoi = sexual abuse/harassment and rape between two guys portrayed as romance most of the time (not always). Not saying "I love you" at all anywhere in the series Fujoshis: The Japanese don't say "I love you" to their spouses, it's understood without words Reality: He really is NOT in love with him Getting a girlfriend/showing interest in girls Fujoshis: He's just lying to himself, he's so gay but just hasn't realized it because he is Japanese! Reality: He really is interested in girls There are pleny that aren't. It's easy to be a fujo and not like harassment/rape. I have never seen anyone use that reasoning. And he's not lying to himself, it's just a phase. Ericonator said: When shipping characters together you completely ignore any logical restrictions ^^^^^ |
Shicchi said: Well, that is what happens when the fan-translators of the series are hard-core fujoshis. They initially started from tumblr and since people easily believe translators so it spreads pretty fast everywhere. I don't know how many times I've heard those things already. That's why I always read raws. Anyways, sorry I was only trying to direct it at kyo kara maoh fans, I usually don't get involved with fandoms so I don't even care about what other fujos ship or do most of the time. Maou_heika said: Sorry to disappoint you buddy but I'm not into hentai, and I don't fap to anything. All that you've mentioned are the sort of series only boys would usually watch. I pretty much hate all erotic, sexualized and fetishized relationships, I'm not big on romance in general that pretty much applies to both straight and homo. I only like pure, sweet and cute relationships based on mutual feelings. Oh! Good to know. Wait, you're kinda same as me (I mean, I hate erotic, fetishized stuff too... and I don't watch hentai...). Oh well. But yeah, even I'm not one myself and hate that stuff, there are people who actually likes it and it kind of rub me the wrong way when people just saying BL is the worst thing ever with all the rape and all that as if it's not happening in any other combination too. Maou_heika said: Shipping non-canon is definitely not a problem, it only becomes a problem when people use those "imaginative" points as arguments to prove the character as "gay" or to prove their ship as canon and want everyone in the fandom to think the same way. Those points are basically things I constantly keep on hearing from fujoshis. Lmao where do you get those answers? Tumblr? XP Just ignore them really. Sometimes people likes to force their ship on other people's throat. It happens all the time, fujoshis or not. Actually, especially between fujoshis. *cough*RinHaru vs Makoharu*cough* |
Shuichi2 said: The ones that are popular seem to give that impression and I see a lot of fujoshis hate on pairings that seem too perfect or sweet because they don't "spice" things up apparently.Maou_heika said: Do fujoshis have morals to begin with? I mean yaoi = sexual abuse/harassment and rape between two guys portrayed as romance most of the time (not always). Not saying "I love you" at all anywhere in the series Fujoshis: The Japanese don't say "I love you" to their spouses, it's understood without words Reality: He really is NOT in love with him Getting a girlfriend/showing interest in girls Fujoshis: He's just lying to himself, he's so gay but just hasn't realized it because he is Japanese! Reality: He really is interested in girls There are pleny that aren't. It's easy to be a fujo and not like harassment/rape. I have never seen anyone use that reasoning. And he's not lying to himself, it's just a phase. I've heard that more than enough times. If that was the case then the author would have shown some actual developments or perhaps labelled the work as at least "shounen-ai" to begin with and not lie to the fans in interviews/afterwords. |
Maou_heika said: Shuichi2 said: The ones that are popular seem to give that impression and I see a lot of fujoshis hate on pairings that seem too perfect or sweet because they don't "spice" things up apparently.There are pleny that aren't. It's easy to be a fujo and not like harassment/rape. I have never seen anyone use that reasoning. And he's not lying to himself, it's just a phase. I've heard that more than enough times. If that was the case then the author would have shown some actual developments or perhaps labelled the work as at least "shounen-ai" to begin with and not lie to the fans in interviews/afterwords. I agree regarding anime. My point was it's easy to find ones that aren't like that, mostly manga which tend to be the highest rated. The phase thing was a joke. |
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