| Does it really need a thread? It is just another nobody making another comment. |
| Did you even read her story? Sounds like she got fucked over pretty hard by most Americans. It's hard to smile and be grateful when people are constantly doing awful shit to you. |
 |
| Not sure about her (being from Iran and all - also an asylum seeker, not a refugee, their is a difference) however most Middle Eastern refugees are refugees in large part thanks to US involvement. Seems kind of silly that they should be "grateful" to the men and women who sacrificed life and limb to profit the arms industry of America . . . Although I guess technically, US soldiers who destabilize a region making it possible for "refugees" to be recognized as such did help them get into the country as refugees. However again, not sure why that is something one should be grateful for, you still made them refugees among other things. I could see why a refugee would have no reason to be thankful to the US at least (can't say the same about most European nations which are taking them in), however an Asylum-Seeker probably should . . . Not going to read the whole article though to pick up on any nuances. Having said that, why this is even "news" is beyond me, though then again it is the guardian, they are hardly a news source. |
Pirating_NinjaApr 5, 2017 8:19 AM
 |
| They send refugees all over the country. She just got unlucky enough to get sent to the middle of Whitesville, with chocolate sprinkles here and there. There are pockets in York, Jersey, Pennsylvania, and California of people that don't speak English at all, just their native languages with churches and communities (and obv SW US). Miniature countries have already taken root, literally called "Little [country]" Of course she is ungrateful, but she isn't as bad as that Filipino man with the Spanish name who lied every step he took to get successful, she is just following in his footsteps. It's all marketing; she know's people will read her new book, colleges will assign chapters, and anthologies will include sections of her experience, and she will write more. She is going to appear on talk-shows, interviews, and amass a large social media following (if she hasn't already). Or did you think it was coincidence that she came forward after all these years amidst a tumultuous relatinship between the people, their executives, and refugees? It wouldn't surprise me if she started writing this excerpt around the end of January She's a genius |
RedPlatyApr 5, 2017 8:20 AM
 |
Bobby2Hands said: Did you even read her story? Sounds like she got fucked over pretty hard by most Americans. It's hard to smile and be grateful when people are constantly doing awful shit to you. I second this. America puts on a good-guy act when it suits us. But refugees like her often get treated like trash, and then are called ungrateful when they don't completely conform to 'American values'. Yet we are supposed to be 'the land of the free'. Hypocrisy. Hypocrisy everywhere. |
 |
| Well she is right, if you ask me. I mean let's look at this. The refugee settlement was started by the government for people from other countries (war zone) to come to European countries Why did this program start? America participated in many wars and invaded many countries. But the refugee settlement program didn't start because of this. It started after people saw dozens of Syrian children and woman drowned in river when they (Syrian people) tried to enter other countries. The media highlighted this problem and so the European countries agreed to take some refugees but then another problem started, some terrorists came to these European countries disguised as refugees. Now my point is that when the refugee settlement program started, they didn't make people sign a document claiming that they owe to the country which took them in. There are many sorts of people in this world, therefore you cannot generalize them. Anyway, the government already knew that they would get nothing in return if they take refugees in. |
| She pays taxes, good enough imo |
| Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
omfgplzstop said: First notice how you assume that the terrorists disguised themselves as refugees, because there's no way that they could've been actual refugees and became terrorists after migrating or were just ungrateful and all that. Then notice how you say there are many sorts of people in this world, and that therefore you shouldn't generalize them, yet you constantly do when it comes to zionists/jews and people who disagree with your baseless theories or call islam a problem. please think about it. Well when you say Islam is problem or refugees are terrorists (which is obviously incorrect) then you are generalizing people. As for the Jews, I never said anything bad about them. The only reason we had the Jews vs Muslim discussion was because you started it. This is how it happened:- You said most muslims become terrorists. I said is that a mathematical formula? Then you said no, the quran commands it. Then I showed you how Talmud commands Jews to kill christians and then you got triggered. I even apologized after that as I thought I said some bad things about Jews (but you ignored it). Therefore, this was the reason I called you a zionist. You generalized muslims and when I defended them you called me a muslim. You see I didn't call you a zionist because you were defending Jews, I called you a zionist because you were degrading a religion. Anway, if you think Islam is cancer then you're free to believe it, but that doesn't mean that I will also accept that ludicrous fact. There are Asian muslims, European muslims, Chinese muslims, Japanese muslims, etc. Islam is not a race, it is a religion. Just because some Arab muslims do terrorist attacks, you were generalizing all 1.7 billion of them |
swirlydragonApr 5, 2017 10:24 AM
MortalMelancholy said: She pays taxes, good enough imo ^ She's done her job. Fuck is this ungrateful bullshit lmao. |
| America should be forced to have all refugees. After all, it's them who fucked up their countries. And anyway, USA is a nation built by immigrants, what's a few more to them? |
| Signature? I ain't got no signature! I don't need no signature! I don't have to show you any stinkin' signature! |
| @omfgplzstop You know what? I don't care about your opinion, I ain't gonna read that shit, it's too long Anyway, if you think that Islam is cancer then I'll gladly say that Judaism is AIDS (as how they justify the killing of Palestinians and Christians) Let me show you what your "NOBLE RACE" has done till now. Israeli Soldiers Describe How They "Shot Innocent Civilians Because They Were Bored" What they described was nothing short of mass butchery of civilians and a flaunting of the Fourth Geneva Convention: among the actions described by the soldiers are "reducing Gaza neighborhoods to sand, firing artillery at random houses to avenge fallen comrades, shooting at innocent civilians because they were bored and watching armed drones attack a pair of women talking on cellphones because they were assumed to be Hamas scouts." Source Another Gaza Hospital Hit by Israeli Strike; Four Dead, 40 Hurt Israeli forces fired a tank shell at a hospital in Gaza on Monday, killing at least four people and injuring 40 others, health officials said. It was the third hospital Israel's military has struck since launching a ground offensive in Gaza last week. The four people killed at al-Aqsa Hospital on Monday included one patient and three visitors, health officials told NBC News. Source Israel: White Phosphorus Use Evidence of War Crimes In Gaza, the Israeli military didn't just use white phosphorus in open areas as a screen for its troops," said Fred Abrahams, senior emergencies researcher at Human Rights Watch and co-author of the report. "It fired white phosphorus repeatedly over densely populated areas, even when its troops weren't in the area and safer smoke shells were available. As a result, civilians needlessly suffered and died." Source Israel bombing Gaza at night There are many more atrocities committed by your "noble race", would you like me to show them? I guess this is what "Lord Moses" taught you pfft And you call Muhammad disgusting? I don't care about Muhammad or Moses (cause both of them are fictional) Well anyway, I am done here Adios! |
swirlydragonApr 5, 2017 2:35 PM
| @omfgplzstop Yeah? Well I ain't gonna read that shit. If you have proof than show me and if you don't then keep all of that wishful thinking to yourself! Look at this, this video is worth thousand words. Do you see how a Israeli soldier killed a unarmed civilian? Btw I would appreciate it if you don't abuse me. Try acting like a civilized person for once. As I said, I don't want your delusional stuff. If you want me to take your opinion seriously then provide PROOF! VALID PROOF! I've provided two videos to show you how Israel treats Palestinians. What did you show me, huh? |
swirlydragonApr 5, 2017 1:56 PM
| didn't read all of it cause it's way too fucking long. her main problem seems to be generalizing a country based on her experiences in a shithole town. nobody is forcing her to "give up" anything. if you're going to live in a country, regardless of where. you have to assimilate to be fair to the host... especially if it's a paradise compared to where you used to be. i can understand missing your country especially if you resettle at that old of an age. but that's just an arguement for resettling refugees into places more like where they're from. kids are assholes and parents are assholes for letting their kids do this, but if you're still living here, i don't see what the purpose of this article. aside from obv recounting her story. |
 Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places But we're trash, you and me We're the litter on the breeze We're the lovers on the streets Just trash, me and you It's in everything we do It's in everything we do |
| @Yomiyuki At least you didn't abuse me this time :) See, if you try you can also talk like a civilized person You are levelling up. Great work! :) |
swirlydragon said: @Yomiyuki At least you didn't abuse me this time :) See, if you try you can also talk like a civilized person You are levelling up. Great work! :) you wouldn't know what civilized meant if someone spoke to you like a toddler after a muslim bombed india. |
Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places But we're trash, you and me We're the litter on the breeze We're the lovers on the streets Just trash, me and you It's in everything we do It's in everything we do |
Yomiyuki said: swirlydragon said: @Yomiyuki At least you didn't abuse me this time :) See, if you try you can also talk like a civilized person You are levelling up. Great work! :) you wouldn't know what civilized meant if someone spoke to you like a toddler after a muslim bombed india. You really do want a muslim to bomb India, huh? Well anyway, if a muslim does that then we aren't going to give him a special treatment or something (like calling him a terrorist without any sort of proof). We'll deal with the case just like any other :) Also, we respect all religions. India is a diverse country and is not ruled by KKK or some radical white nationalist. |
swirlydragonApr 5, 2017 2:52 PM
swirlydragon said: Yomiyuki said: you wouldn't know what civilized meant if someone spoke to you like a toddler after a muslim bombed india. You really do want a muslim to bomb India, huh? Well anyway, if a muslim does that then we aren't going to give him a special treatment or something (like calling him a terrorist without any sort of proof). We'll deal with the case just like any other :) Also, we respect all religions. India is a diverse country and is not ruled by KKK or some radical white nationalist. Since you hate muslims so much, I'll tell you one thing. Just come and visit India and then you'll understand what diversity really means. if someone bombed your country you wouldn't call them a terrorist? wtf, lmaooooooo |
Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places But we're trash, you and me We're the litter on the breeze We're the lovers on the streets Just trash, me and you It's in everything we do It's in everything we do |
swirlydragon said: Well first we investigate the case and then decide. We don't rely on assumptions Btw many actors, celebrities, politicians, etc. are muslims in India and they love their country and their religion. And yes, none of them were terrorists :) Also, we Indians have a different mentality, according to us a real muslim is someone who prays 5 times a day unlike most Americans who think that real muslims are people who blow themselves up (which is obviously media propaganda to scare the public) And that is why we Indians don't have to deal with suicide bombers every now and then because we don't insult other people's religion so you're saying suicide bombers do it cause we insult their religion? lol. so what's the solution... sharia law? abolish free speech? |
Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places But we're trash, you and me We're the litter on the breeze We're the lovers on the streets Just trash, me and you It's in everything we do It's in everything we do |
Yomiyuki said: swirlydragon said: Well first we investigate the case and then decide. We don't rely on assumptions Btw many actors, celebrities, politicians, etc. are muslims in India and they love their country and their religion. And yes, none of them were terrorists :) Also, we Indians have a different mentality, according to us a real muslim is someone who prays 5 times a day unlike most Americans who think that real muslims are people who blow themselves up (which is obviously media propaganda to scare the public) And that is why we Indians don't have to deal with suicide bombers every now and then because we don't insult other people's religion so you're saying suicide bombers do it cause we insult their religion? lol. so what's the solution... sharia law? abolish free speech? Well the solution is quite simple. If USA breaks its ties with Saudi Arabia which funds terrorists and does not intervene with other country's war or stops invading them for oil then they would probably not attack you. As for the media, let's just say someone insults Christianity on global television How would you feel? |
swirlydragon said: Yomiyuki said: so you're saying suicide bombers do it cause we insult their religion? lol. so what's the solution... sharia law? abolish free speech? Well the solution is quite simple. If USA breaks its ties with Saudi Arabia which funds terrorists and does not intervene with other country's war or stops invading them for oil then they would probably not attack you. As for the media, let's just say someone insults Christianity on global television How would you feel? you know that's not gonna happen... few people here know about that/cares enough to change it. i don't care if someone insults christianity. i wish people would insult catholicism more than they do, but w/e. |
Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places But we're trash, you and me We're the litter on the breeze We're the lovers on the streets Just trash, me and you It's in everything we do It's in everything we do |
Yomiyuki said: swirlydragon said: Well the solution is quite simple. If USA breaks its ties with Saudi Arabia which funds terrorists and does not intervene with other country's war or stops invading them for oil then they would probably not attack you. As for the media, let's just say someone insults Christianity on global television How would you feel? you know that's not gonna happen... few people here know about that/cares enough to change it. i don't care if someone insults christianity. i wish people would insult catholicism more than they do, but w/e. Well then the only possible way to stop terrorism is to wait until oil gets depleted. As for christianity, you wouldn't hate it but some people definitely would. I mean I don't know much about christianity myself as I only know one Chrisitian person but if someone starts insulting Christianity on a global scale (like in newspaper or TV) I don't think people would just stay quiet. Religion is faith and if you say anything about their faith then people would obviously get mad @omfgplzstop Do they insult Christianity on a global scale like in newspaper or TV? |
swirlydragonApr 5, 2017 3:15 PM
omfgplzstop said: swirlydragon said: Well then the only possible way to stop terrorism is to wait until oil gets depleted. As for christianity, you wouldn't hate it but some people definitely would. I mean I don't know much about christianity myself as I only know one Chrisitian person but if someone starts insulting Christianity on a global scale (like in newspaper or TV) I don't think people would just stay quiet. Religion is faith and if you say anything about their faith then people would obviously get mad So because I "get mad," I'm allowed to suicide bomb every other day and kill tens of thousands. That's hilarious. Thousands? Ten thousands? How can a suicide bomber kill this many people? Personally, I don't know what kind of religion they practice because in India you wouldn't see any of them. You can see people wearing hats, see them with long beards, see them wearing hijab, see them wearing burkha but you'll never see them wearing a bag full of explosives. As I said, if you want to know what diversity is like then visit India :) |
swirlydragonApr 5, 2017 3:19 PM
imeli said: swirlydragon said: As for christianity, you wouldn't hate it but some people definitely would. I mean I don't know much about christianity myself as I only know one Chrisitian person but if someone starts insulting Christianity on a global scale (like in newspaper or TV) I don't think people would just stay quiet. Religion is faith and if you say anything about their faith then people would obviously get mad Do they insult Christianity on a global scale like in newspaper or TV? Nobody over here is going to get mad enough to kill people if you insult Christianity. This isn't the middle ages. Did I say that was the only reason? Please read my post again Btw how do you know that? Christians and Muslims are made from the same material, both are humans. Every religion has some extremists but that does not mean that their religion is corrupt. |
omfgplzstop said: Do you see people insulting Islam on a global scale, in newspapers and TV? Media does not insult Islam. Sometimes, people on the media insult religions, and it's happened more with Christianity than with Islam, as the issues with Islam only became relevant to Americans recently. I'll just give you one example right now. Breitbart employee Milo Yiannopoulos publicly said that "Islam is cancer" and Breitbart even published that in the newspaper Here's the article:- http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/06/16/heres-everything-wanted-say-islam-yesterday-couldnt/ Well in India we don't have suicide bombers except in Kashmir. And the reason we have suicide bombers (which only happened once or twice) is because we are fighting with Pakistan to get our land back |
swirlydragonApr 5, 2017 3:26 PM
omfgplzstop said: alright, i should've clarified that by "people" i mean guests and independent journalists. regarding your previous post, the problem is that muslims have far more "extremists" than christians, because being extremist in their religion is actually applying the teachings of the qur'an. That's false. I have one Christian friend and many muslim friends (though I haven't met a Jew) and I can tell you one thing about muslims. There are two types of muslims in India. 1. Those who don't pray often but they read Quran (as it is mandatory for all muslims) 2. Those who pray often and HAVE REMEMBERED QURAN BY HEART! Yet I have never seen any of them talking bad about religion or saying that "You are not muslim so I shall slay you lol" Therefore, when I visited this site I learned how Europeans think about muslims. I mean you think exactly the opposite lol imeli said: I'm telling you it doesn't matter, regardless of what you post. You're saying Christianity has never been insulted on a global scale. You ever hear about the church burnings in Norway? If that isn't an insult, then I don't know what is. The Christians didn't get together and start shooting up people though. This hasn't happened over here in America but I'm pretty sure if it did we wouldn't have any Christian terrorist groups uniting and bombing shit. Like I said, this isn't the middle ages. I am already telling you that USA backs Saudi Arabia and funds terrorism. Why are they allies with Saudi Arabia? When Saudi killed Yemen civilians, where was the UN? When America killed 4 million Iraqis, where was the UN? They even provided weapons to Syrian rebels After all this, do you expect all muslims to stay quiet about this when their families are being butchered? I am not taking side of terrorists, they are criminals and they should be eradicated but that doesn't mean that all muslims or their religion are like that Btw if you still do not believe me then visit Jama masjid or Ajmer Sheriff in India and you'll surely change your mind after that |
swirlydragonApr 5, 2017 3:38 PM
Lelouch_Darsi said: Inferno_Cop said: Does it really need a thread? It is just another nobody making another comment. It's not a nobody. It's an ungrateful refugee so? there are plenty of ungrateful Americans. being a Refugee does not make them special also shes not exactly wrong seeing as the U.S kind of helped make the miss they were in. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
| She's right, or at least making a sensible argument. The "country as person or family" analogy, often drawn to defend limited immigration or argue that immigrants/refugees are indebted, is flawed. A country is not like a house and a country's inhabitants are not like a family. Accepting refugees is not like a family welcoming strangers into their home. It's more like a spacious neighbourhood permitting a new family to move in. All it takes is an acknowledgement that it would be morally suspect for us (neighbourhood or country) to monopolize a good place to live. But is the neighbourhood "spacious" or is it already full? Will the new family be very troublesome and ruin the whole neighbourhood, thus making new families a net negative? I don't think those concerns are valid, even though there are obviously some costs. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| @imeli Well I guess that's your opinion, but for me whether you be Christian, Jew, muslims, etc I will respect you as long as you respect other religions. We are all humans and that's what my parents taught me. And the people who are getting killed are not muslims, they are fellow humans Their life is as precious as any of us |
More topics from this board
Sticky: » The Current Events Board Will Be Closed on Friday JST ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Luna - Aug 2, 2021 |
271 |
by traed
»»
Aug 5, 2021 5:56 PM |
|
» Third shot of Sinovac COVID-19 vaccine offers big increase in antibody levels: study ( 1 2 )Desolated - Jul 30, 2021 |
50 |
by Desolated
»»
Aug 5, 2021 3:24 PM |
|
» Western vaccine producers engage in shameless profiteering while poorer countries are supplied mainly by China.Desolated - Aug 5, 2021 |
1 |
by Bourmegar
»»
Aug 5, 2021 3:23 PM |
|
» NLRB officer says Amazon violated US labor lawDesolated - Aug 3, 2021 |
17 |
by kitsune0
»»
Aug 5, 2021 1:41 PM |
|
» China Backs Cuba in Saying US Should Apply Sanctions To ItselfDesolated - Aug 5, 2021 |
10 |
by Desolated
»»
Aug 5, 2021 1:36 PM |