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Nov 27, 2016 12:12 PM
#1
| Don't get me wrong i really like this anime, but i still don't understand why this specific anime became so popular. The reasons i can come up with are mostly about the Yaoi bait but that's that. But seriously the opening of this show have over 4.5 million views on youtube! That's insane for sport anime, and that being a skating anime. Yea so that's something i have been pondering about |
Nov 27, 2016 12:12 PM
#2
| because it's gay. |
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Nov 27, 2016 12:14 PM
#3
GangsterCat said: because it's gay. My initial thought |
Nov 27, 2016 12:31 PM
#4
SilverSkyWolf said: FireFistYamaan said: Don't get me wrong i really like this anime, but i still don't understand why this specific anime became so popular. The reasons i can come up with are mostly about the Yaoi bait but that's that. But seriously the opening of this show have over 4.5 million views on youtube! That's insane for sport anime, and that being a skating anime. Yea so that's something i have been pondering about It has nice art and well animated scating sequences with good music, the art being conventaly pretty and the music, although Japanese being pretty similar to some of the mainstream, it makes it acssesable even if you don't like anime. Is also a pretty good show, maybes thier are better shows out there that should get the attention but it's not like Yuri on ice doesn't deserve its publicity. Also it's gay, people love that. This ^ Plus we never got a nice anime like Yuri on ice, it's 100% new to us. The opening was great. |
Nov 27, 2016 12:32 PM
#5
| I think probably because of the music and the awesome skating routines, combined with the dynamic between Victor and Yuuri. This show just makes me happy, so probably why I've been watching it on repeat ever since it started airing xD |
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Nov 27, 2016 12:39 PM
#6
| Sports animes in general are popular. Haikyuu!! is one of most popular animes of the season as well so being sport anime likely got some viewers. Ice-skating too, it's pretty popular sport due to how pretty it is. Then YOI reminds bit of Free! with exception that it has actual gay romance and it's not just implied and up to headcanon. |
Nov 27, 2016 12:44 PM
#7
| As a shonen ai fan: This is the best shonen ai to come out ever. It actually has a healthy relationship not filled with drama that comes from the relationship and centers around making both characters stronger. Bringing the weaker to the stronger's level. From someone who has seen a lot of sports anime: He actually has a desirable coach. A knowledgeable coach. Someone who can actually make him excel. It doesn't take place in school. It features adults but there is a teen rival The rival has a reason to be his rival. They don't just fight the rival... they actually compete how you kinda would. They actually practice. The hero has faults that makes sense in the sport he is competing in. They don't make it stupid. PEOPLE FALL DOWN IN SKATING DID YOU KNOW THIS? haha. Also people mess up in sports. People get hurt. |
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Nov 27, 2016 12:46 PM
#8
| indeed the opening is an awesome song but Yuri on Ice is a nice sport anime (except the yaoi/queerbait part) also female fans go crazy about the Yaoi stuff etc. and it doesnt have a flaw in my opinion the sound is good it has excitement and the animation isgood, the characters are likeable (too much queerbait/yaoi tho) and the story is good for a sports anime |
Nov 27, 2016 12:48 PM
#9
LouM said: indeed the opening is an awesome song but Yuri on Ice is a nice sport anime (except the yaoi/queerbait part) also female fans go crazy about the Yaoi stuff etc. and it doesnt have a flaw in my opinion the sound is good it has excitement and the animation isgood, the characters are likeable (too much queerbait/yaoi tho) and the story is good for a sports anime excuse you. it is not queerbait if it happens. |
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Nov 27, 2016 12:52 PM
#10
Jonouchi-Katsuya said: well its how you percieve it, i take it as queerbait and act that it was a hug not a kiss, you take it as yaoi and think and take it as a kiss and not a hug, inthat case everyone is happyLouM said: indeed the opening is an awesome song but Yuri on Ice is a nice sport anime (except the yaoi/queerbait part) also female fans go crazy about the Yaoi stuff etc. and it doesnt have a flaw in my opinion the sound is good it has excitement and the animation isgood, the characters are likeable (too much queerbait/yaoi tho) and the story is good for a sports anime excuse you. it is not queerbait if it happens. |
Nov 27, 2016 1:00 PM
#11
| Overall I feel like there's a lot to love about this series. The music, the skating, the relationship between Victor and Yuri, and the breaking of stereotypes all come together to create a charming and very enjoyable anime. It really feels like they put a lot of thought into it with all the details and focus on making the skating as accurate as possible. |
Nov 27, 2016 1:10 PM
#12
LouM said: Jonouchi-Katsuya said: well its how you percieve it, i take it as queerbait and act that it was a hug not a kiss, you take it as yaoi and think and take it as a kiss and not a hug, inthat case everyone is happyLouM said: indeed the opening is an awesome song but Yuri on Ice is a nice sport anime (except the yaoi/queerbait part) also female fans go crazy about the Yaoi stuff etc. and it doesnt have a flaw in my opinion the sound is good it has excitement and the animation isgood, the characters are likeable (too much queerbait/yaoi tho) and the story is good for a sports anime excuse you. it is not queerbait if it happens. If they have to say "we are boyfriends now" for you to get it... :/ I really don't know what to say. Episode 4, Victor asked if Yuri wanted to be his boyfriend. But in episode 5 Yuri said he loved Victor on national Television. And then there was that moment in the basement where Victor asked if Yuri wanted a kiss if Yuri was successful. I don't know how else you want to interpret these things. And even the look he gave after the "hug/kiss" was one of pure love... and this was after Yuri performed Victor's signature move. This was an act of love. And I don't understand how you could see it any other way. For it to be queerbaiting, there needs to be a straight counterbalance saying THIS IS ALL STRAIGHT GUYS. Like if Yuri or Victor magically had a girlfriend during all these shenanigans. Like even Yuri's childhood lady friend is married. |
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Nov 27, 2016 1:18 PM
#13
Jonouchi-Katsuya said: LouM said: Jonouchi-Katsuya said: LouM said: indeed the opening is an awesome song but Yuri on Ice is a nice sport anime (except the yaoi/queerbait part) also female fans go crazy about the Yaoi stuff etc. and it doesnt have a flaw in my opinion the sound is good it has excitement and the animation isgood, the characters are likeable (too much queerbait/yaoi tho) and the story is good for a sports anime excuse you. it is not queerbait if it happens. If they have to say "we are boyfriends now" for you to get it... :/ I really don't know what to say. Episode 4, Victor asked if Yuri wanted to be his boyfriend. But in episode 5 Yuri said he loved Victor on national Television. And then there was that moment in the basement where Victor asked if Yuri wanted a kiss if Yuri was successful. I don't know how else you want to interpret these things. And even the look he gave after the "hug/kiss" was one of pure love... and this was after Yuri performed Victor's signature move. This was an act of love. And I don't understand how you could see it any other way. People deny it because it's gay. If one of them had been a girl, no one would have doubted the kiss or that they are in a relationship. |
Nov 27, 2016 1:21 PM
#14
Demikuzunoha said: Jonouchi-Katsuya said: LouM said: Jonouchi-Katsuya said: well its how you percieve it, i take it as queerbait and act that it was a hug not a kiss, you take it as yaoi and think and take it as a kiss and not a hug, inthat case everyone is happyLouM said: indeed the opening is an awesome song but Yuri on Ice is a nice sport anime (except the yaoi/queerbait part) also female fans go crazy about the Yaoi stuff etc. and it doesnt have a flaw in my opinion the sound is good it has excitement and the animation isgood, the characters are likeable (too much queerbait/yaoi tho) and the story is good for a sports anime excuse you. it is not queerbait if it happens. If they have to say "we are boyfriends now" for you to get it... :/ I really don't know what to say. Episode 4, Victor asked if Yuri wanted to be his boyfriend. But in episode 5 Yuri said he loved Victor on national Television. And then there was that moment in the basement where Victor asked if Yuri wanted a kiss if Yuri was successful. I don't know how else you want to interpret these things. And even the look he gave after the "hug/kiss" was one of pure love... and this was after Yuri performed Victor's signature move. This was an act of love. And I don't understand how you could see it any other way. People deny it because it's gay. If one of them had been a girl, no one would have doubted the kiss or that they are in a relationship. Yeah... and nobody would be calling it fanservice either... :/ It is so annoying. The only things that are fanservice to me are Victor's puppy cuddling, and that weird crap that happened with the cat ears in episode 8. But honestly, I am cool with puppy cuddling. very cute. Also thought it was funny when Victor fell asleep LITERALLY IN THE SAME BED AS YURI (seriously you guys...) and on top of him and Yuri couldn't sleep night before competition. |
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Nov 27, 2016 9:13 PM
#15
| Outside of the stupid fanservice it tells a very good story with likable characters and is for the most part well animated. |
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Nov 27, 2016 11:07 PM
#16
| It's funny, lighthearted, has lots of likable characters, and a good soundtrack. Lot's of people might be in it for shipping reasons, but I think it's just easily enjoyable all around. Not really heavy on drama and some skaters (like JJ, Chris, and Georgi) are so over the top it's hilarious. The skating animation might not be the best at times, but ice skating itself is beautiful to watch. Getting to see lots of different characters with unique performances is really interesting. |
Nov 27, 2016 11:24 PM
#17
| Probably because people had such low expectations of it...so when it actually started airing and people saw that it had awesome music, animation, a ton of likeable characters as well as actually taking the ice skating part seriously, the whole thing just blew up. I'm not dissing Free or anything here (bc I kinda liked it), but how many people thought this was gonna be ice-skating Free?? Because that's what I thought. More anime about cute boys doing cute things and bromancing their way through life. But nah, Yuri on Ice had the guts to go further than that and give us guys who are definitely more than bros...and it's not shallow in exection either! |
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Nov 28, 2016 1:22 AM
#18
| I know this is stupid but I have to be honest. Because of the "Yuri" on the title. I saw the poster and there're only men but I held tight on that tiny sliver of hope. I was expecting some yuri action but it crumbled the more I watched. Silliness aside. It's a new sports anime. Something we haven't seen before. Except some yaoi stuff or whatever you call it, it's pretty good. Either that or rule 16 is gradually changing into something scary. |
Nov 28, 2016 2:50 AM
#19
Jonouchi-Katsuya said: LouM said: Jonouchi-Katsuya said: LouM said: indeed the opening is an awesome song but Yuri on Ice is a nice sport anime (except the yaoi/queerbait part) also female fans go crazy about the Yaoi stuff etc. and it doesnt have a flaw in my opinion the sound is good it has excitement and the animation isgood, the characters are likeable (too much queerbait/yaoi tho) and the story is good for a sports anime excuse you. it is not queerbait if it happens. If they have to say "we are boyfriends now" for you to get it... :/ I really don't know what to say. Episode 4, Victor asked if Yuri wanted to be his boyfriend. But in episode 5 Yuri said he loved Victor on national Television. And then there was that moment in the basement where Victor asked if Yuri wanted a kiss if Yuri was successful. I don't know how else you want to interpret these things. And even the look he gave after the "hug/kiss" was one of pure love... and this was after Yuri performed Victor's signature move. This was an act of love. And I don't understand how you could see it any other way. For it to be queerbaiting, there needs to be a straight counterbalance saying THIS IS ALL STRAIGHT GUYS. Like if Yuri or Victor magically had a girlfriend during all these shenanigans. Like even Yuri's childhood lady friend is married. People just seem to want to way more prove on same sex relationships and attraction than opposite genders one :/ I guess it could be bit blamed on shows that actually have baiting, but guys end up with girls in the end or go "no homo" or heteronormativy is shown some other way. YOI doesn't seem like that at all though. |
Nov 28, 2016 4:23 AM
#20
| Because there is not much really yaoi anime out there, so fujoshis jump at everything that even slightly reminds of shounen-ai. And this... thing is far, far beyond just undertones, it's almost full-fledged yaoi. And fujoshis are known to be the worst possible fans ever, exceeding even narutards and other shounenkids by a great margin. So no wonder they creating such a hype. |
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Nov 28, 2016 6:52 AM
#21
kitsune0 said: Fujos of Japan are the people who buy the 60$ blu-rays and merchandising to keep the industry running.Because there is not much really yaoi anime out there, so fujoshis jump at everything that even slightly reminds of shounen-ai. And this... thing is far, far beyond just undertones, it's almost full-fledged yaoi. And fujoshis are known to be the worst possible fans ever, exceeding even narutards and other shounenkids by a great margin. So no wonder they creating such a hype. Not to burst your bubble, but a MALL-poll with an okay sample of 222 people, showed that only 29% of the viewers are fujo/fudanshi. 24% of the viewers is LGBT+ and likes the healthy non-fetishized representation (in reality probably a little lower %) and 37% of the viewership is neutral towards same sex romance in anime (in reality probably a little higher %). I also wanted to add that sports anime that so happens to have a gay couple =/= yaoi or BL or shounen-ai anime. Claiming it's full fledged yaoi is an insult to the creators whose purpose has been to avoid such gross labels. Also, personally, the people who are in denial about their relationship tend to be way louder and more annoying and more offensive than fujos. But that's just how I view it. |
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Nov 28, 2016 9:54 AM
#22
lizebutnotrize said: kitsune0 said: Fujos of Japan are the people who buy the 60$ blu-rays and merchandising to keep the industry running.Because there is not much really yaoi anime out there, so fujoshis jump at everything that even slightly reminds of shounen-ai. And this... thing is far, far beyond just undertones, it's almost full-fledged yaoi. And fujoshis are known to be the worst possible fans ever, exceeding even narutards and other shounenkids by a great margin. So no wonder they creating such a hype. Not to burst your bubble, but a MALL-poll with an okay sample of 222 people, showed that only 29% of the viewers are fujo/fudanshi. 24% of the viewers is LGBT+ and likes the healthy non-fetishized representation (in reality probably a little lower %) and 37% of the viewership is neutral towards same sex romance in anime (in reality probably a little higher %). I also wanted to add that sports anime that so happens to have a gay couple =/= yaoi or BL or shounen-ai anime. Claiming it's full fledged yaoi is an insult to the creators whose purpose has been to avoid such gross labels. Also, personally, the people who are in denial about their relationship tend to be way louder and more annoying and more offensive than fujos. But that's just how I view it. This is it. That's what I wanted to say. I have too many friends that aren't fujoshis but still watch and enjoy the anime. It's unique, it develops a healthy gay relationship and builds good character developpement, the art is stunning, and the music is flawless. Also @ everyone who thinks they didn't kiss : they DID. confirmed by the writers themself. Why are you trying to badly to prove that they're not in love ? I'm not trying to sound like and hysterical fangirl, but I'm stating the truth. Yuri On Ice broke the stereyotipes and made a gay couple cannon, is this what's bothering you? They're building a healthy, cute relationship out there but you're trying to convince yourselfs that there's no gay, cannon couple outside the shounen-ai/yaoi doors. That's an immature way of thinking. |
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Nov 28, 2016 12:25 PM
#23
| Because it's quite well done queerbait that intentionally gives the (fujoshi) audience hope it might turn into something 'canonical' at one point. That's the whole 'magic' behind this show. Just look at the episode 7 thread and the reactions. For some it was like the second coming of Christ. |
Nov 28, 2016 1:20 PM
#24
Helenus said: aBecause it's quite well done queerbait that intentionally gives the (fujoshi) audience hope it might turn into something 'canonical' at one point. That's the whole 'magic' behind this show. Just look at the episode 7 thread and the reactions. For some it was like the second coming of Christ. I got down on my knees and thanked our lord and savoir Haruhi for the blessings on that special day. I watched the episode 3 times that day alone. I have seen it at least 6 times and the dubbed episode hasn't even come out. And YES I do watch the dub episodes. I did go nuts. And no. It is not "hope" at this point to me. They actually did give me everything. I know this is a canon thing. And I am very happy. I am so used to being duped and frauded in these series where I can just ship characters that seem close... you know? I am so used to nothing actually happening. And this time stuff does happen... and it is building naturally and the drama doesn't come from with in the relationship... and the couple is becoming stronger and better every episode. It is really amazing. It took me until Episode 5 to really think "are they really going to?" Like yeah Episode 4 gave me a lot of bait and I thought it was just going to stay bait but... I think episode 5 just... I was like no way would they give me more meat like that right after and then... episode 7... it is just every episode the intimacy just builds. It is so nice. It is nice NOT to be baited and strung along for ONCE in my time watching one of these. |
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Nov 28, 2016 4:13 PM
#25
Jonouchi-Katsuya said: Demikuzunoha said: Jonouchi-Katsuya said: LouM said: Jonouchi-Katsuya said: well its how you percieve it, i take it as queerbait and act that it was a hug not a kiss, you take it as yaoi and think and take it as a kiss and not a hug, inthat case everyone is happyLouM said: indeed the opening is an awesome song but Yuri on Ice is a nice sport anime (except the yaoi/queerbait part) also female fans go crazy about the Yaoi stuff etc. and it doesnt have a flaw in my opinion the sound is good it has excitement and the animation isgood, the characters are likeable (too much queerbait/yaoi tho) and the story is good for a sports anime excuse you. it is not queerbait if it happens. If they have to say "we are boyfriends now" for you to get it... :/ I really don't know what to say. Episode 4, Victor asked if Yuri wanted to be his boyfriend. But in episode 5 Yuri said he loved Victor on national Television. And then there was that moment in the basement where Victor asked if Yuri wanted a kiss if Yuri was successful. I don't know how else you want to interpret these things. And even the look he gave after the "hug/kiss" was one of pure love... and this was after Yuri performed Victor's signature move. This was an act of love. And I don't understand how you could see it any other way. People deny it because it's gay. If one of them had been a girl, no one would have doubted the kiss or that they are in a relationship. Yeah... and nobody would be calling it fanservice either... :/ It is so annoying. The only things that are fanservice to me are Victor's puppy cuddling, and that weird crap that happened with the cat ears in episode 8. But honestly, I am cool with puppy cuddling. very cute. Also thought it was funny when Victor fell asleep LITERALLY IN THE SAME BED AS YURI (seriously you guys...) and on top of him and Yuri couldn't sleep night before competition. I agree.. It's sad how people can deny more things simply because it's gay. Well said you two. <3 |
Nov 29, 2016 4:51 AM
#26
kitsune0 said: Because there is not much really yaoi anime out there, so fujoshis jump at everything that even slightly reminds of shounen-ai. And this... thing is far, far beyond just undertones, it's almost full-fledged yaoi. And fujoshis are known to be the worst possible fans ever, exceeding even narutards and other shounenkids by a great margin. So no wonder they creating such a hype. Fujoshis aren't the ones who bitch and moan every time something that doesn't pander to their exact interests isn't made. The most annoying fans of anime are the heterosexual manbabies who whine and whine because the "fujos are ruining anime." All I can say is cry more. Helenus said: Because it's quite well done queerbait that intentionally gives the (fujoshi) audience hope it might turn into something 'canonical' at one point. That's the whole 'magic' behind this show. Just look at the episode 7 thread and the reactions. For some it was like the second coming of Christ. The creator already confirmed it. This wouldn't even be a discussion if the two people in question were M/F. Characters have done so much LESS together in an anime and still people rant and rave about how they're together, but when it comes to M/M pairings in particular people are so intent on shoving their heads into the sand and refuse to see what's slapping them in the face. This happened with No. 6, where the two mains even fucking kissed, and this happened in Evangelion where two dudes even made out with each other. It's been discussed to hell and back and there's more evidence the creator is showing a gay relationship than not. Mod Edit: Removed baiting |
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Nov 29, 2016 5:43 AM
#27
| It's a sports anime that isn't set in highschool. That alone was the biggest draw for me, and probably quite a few other people as well. Sports is always most interesting at the international level, where the best of the best are competing. The fact that the characters are mostly adults also helps. The decent animation and relationship between Victor and Yuri are a good selling point as well. Most people don't care about the online arguments, who it's aimed at or how certain fans are reacting. They just enjoy the show. Oh, and the soundtrack is amazing. I've not heard so much variety in styles in an anime soundtrack in a long time. Took me a while to realise all the songs used in the performances were originals produced for the show, it's actually really impressive. |
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Nov 29, 2016 8:00 AM
#28
| Because It's MAPPA Fujoshis Shitty Sports polygamy. MAL users. This why it's popular. Don't worry this will get on below top 100 where it belongs. |
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Nov 29, 2016 8:48 AM
#29
| I am eagerly looking forward to every episode. And to the fandom reactions even more so. P.S.: The so called 'confirmation' of the director is far from definite. A 'fictio' at best. P.P.S.: The purpose of this thread was to collect reasons for this shows popularity. And I did nothing more than name them. A well done, artistic looking fujobait/queerbait show. Did I ever say queerbait is bad? God, NO! Bring in the queerbait! |
TyrelNov 29, 2016 5:09 PM
Nov 29, 2016 10:21 AM
#30
| @Rayzer Since when MAPPA became popular? Most of their series sold poorly so I'm not sure why you mentioned that studio. And what MAL users? YOI is popular in YouTube (op hit 4M views), Twitter (got 200k+ followers and when a new episode is out, it will start trending in Japanese twitter) and ofc in Kissanime and Crunchyroll! Did you check the map of Canada in Crunchyroll? No.1 is Yuri on ice, and for USA, I guess it's no.2. Btw, I'm not sure why people always care what's the top in MAL. I care only about the sales of the series I love, and YOI is going to save MAPPA for sure. :) |
Nov 29, 2016 11:08 AM
#31
Nov 29, 2016 11:41 AM
#32
kitsune0 said: Because there is not much really yaoi anime out there, so fujoshis jump at everything that even slightly reminds of shounen-ai. And this... thing is far, far beyond just undertones, it's almost full-fledged yaoi. And fujoshis are known to be the worst possible fans ever, exceeding even narutards and other shounenkids by a great margin. So no wonder they creating such a hype. abystoma2 said: Fujoshi overrating everything that has gay vibes. Preach that gospel |
Nov 29, 2016 2:29 PM
#33
Sarahotakon said: lizebutnotrize said: kitsune0 said: Because there is not much really yaoi anime out there, so fujoshis jump at everything that even slightly reminds of shounen-ai. And this... thing is far, far beyond just undertones, it's almost full-fledged yaoi. And fujoshis are known to be the worst possible fans ever, exceeding even narutards and other shounenkids by a great margin. So no wonder they creating such a hype. Not to burst your bubble, but a MALL-poll with an okay sample of 222 people, showed that only 29% of the viewers are fujo/fudanshi. 24% of the viewers is LGBT+ and likes the healthy non-fetishized representation (in reality probably a little lower %) and 37% of the viewership is neutral towards same sex romance in anime (in reality probably a little higher %). I also wanted to add that sports anime that so happens to have a gay couple =/= yaoi or BL or shounen-ai anime. Claiming it's full fledged yaoi is an insult to the creators whose purpose has been to avoid such gross labels. Also, personally, the people who are in denial about their relationship tend to be way louder and more annoying and more offensive than fujos. But that's just how I view it. This is it. That's what I wanted to say. I have too many friends that aren't fujoshis but still watch and enjoy the anime. It's unique, it develops a healthy gay relationship and builds good character developpement, the art is stunning, and the music is flawless. Also @ everyone who thinks they didn't kiss : they DID. confirmed by the writers themself. Why are you trying to badly to prove that they're not in love ? I'm not trying to sound like and hysterical fangirl, but I'm stating the truth. Yuri On Ice broke the stereyotipes and made a gay couple cannon, is this what's bothering you? They're building a healthy, cute relationship out there but you're trying to convince yourselfs that there's no gay, cannon couple outside the shounen-ai/yaoi doors. That's an immature way of thinking. As much as I love the series, I'm sad that I have to burst your bubble with my pin of the meaning of lexical definition of yaoi. I agree that this anime is on a whole new level compared to any existing yaoi series, and it represents homosexual relationships in a way they always should have been, especially because there is a lot of controversy in Russia and Japan about same sex relalationships. Even the authors declared that they did not put yaoi in the genre tags. As wikipedia says: "Yaoi is a slang meaning 'boys love' or homosexuality that is used in the japanese language." So when someone says its yaoi they are not referring to the other forced drama based oversexualized carp, but the fact that its gay indeed. I don't think YoI should be sigmatized as a typical yaoi anime bc it clearly isnt, but the perspective you look at it is also wrong. I wish there would be another word that describes this kind of anime better but sadly there isn't anything like that yet and I'm pretty sure that in the next years or so based on how society evolves (Legalized gay marriage in us) people starting to get to understand them more and more and there will definetly be a correct word for this genre, but til then you have to stick with yaoi. |
Nov 29, 2016 3:17 PM
#34
BlazeWing said: Sarahotakon said: lizebutnotrize said: kitsune0 said: Fujos of Japan are the people who buy the 60$ blu-rays and merchandising to keep the industry running.Because there is not much really yaoi anime out there, so fujoshis jump at everything that even slightly reminds of shounen-ai. And this... thing is far, far beyond just undertones, it's almost full-fledged yaoi. And fujoshis are known to be the worst possible fans ever, exceeding even narutards and other shounenkids by a great margin. So no wonder they creating such a hype. Not to burst your bubble, but a MALL-poll with an okay sample of 222 people, showed that only 29% of the viewers are fujo/fudanshi. 24% of the viewers is LGBT+ and likes the healthy non-fetishized representation (in reality probably a little lower %) and 37% of the viewership is neutral towards same sex romance in anime (in reality probably a little higher %). I also wanted to add that sports anime that so happens to have a gay couple =/= yaoi or BL or shounen-ai anime. Claiming it's full fledged yaoi is an insult to the creators whose purpose has been to avoid such gross labels. Also, personally, the people who are in denial about their relationship tend to be way louder and more annoying and more offensive than fujos. But that's just how I view it. This is it. That's what I wanted to say. I have too many friends that aren't fujoshis but still watch and enjoy the anime. It's unique, it develops a healthy gay relationship and builds good character developpement, the art is stunning, and the music is flawless. Also @ everyone who thinks they didn't kiss : they DID. confirmed by the writers themself. Why are you trying to badly to prove that they're not in love ? I'm not trying to sound like and hysterical fangirl, but I'm stating the truth. Yuri On Ice broke the stereyotipes and made a gay couple cannon, is this what's bothering you? They're building a healthy, cute relationship out there but you're trying to convince yourselfs that there's no gay, cannon couple outside the shounen-ai/yaoi doors. That's an immature way of thinking. As much as I love the series, I'm sad that I have to burst your bubble with my pin of the meaning of lexical definition of yaoi. I agree that this anime is on a whole new level compared to any existing yaoi series, and it represents homosexual relationships in a way they always should have been, especially because there is a lot of controversy in Russia and Japan about same sex relalationships. Even the authors declared that they did not put yaoi in the genre tags. As wikipedia says: "Yaoi is a slang meaning 'boys love' or homosexuality that is used in the japanese language." So when someone says its yaoi they are not referring to the other forced drama based oversexualized carp, but the fact that its gay indeed. I don't think YoI should be sigmatized as a typical yaoi anime bc it clearly isnt, but the perspective you look at it is also wrong. I wish there would be another word that describes this kind of anime better but sadly there isn't anything like that yet and I'm pretty sure that in the next years or so based on how society evolves (Legalized gay marriage in us) people starting to get to understand them more and more and there will definetly be a correct word for this genre, but til then you have to stick with yaoi. It's a bit more complicated than that, though. If anything that prominently features a male/male relationship is yaoi then where does bara fit in, considering it is generally considered a separate genre? You could argue it's a matter of target audience, but a large number of gay men who aren't into the yaoi genre are enjoying the relationship depicted in YOI, and I don't think it's entirely by accident. |
IanamusNov 29, 2016 3:20 PM
Nov 29, 2016 4:45 PM
#35
Ianamus said: BlazeWing said: Sarahotakon said: lizebutnotrize said: kitsune0 said: Fujos of Japan are the people who buy the 60$ blu-rays and merchandising to keep the industry running.Because there is not much really yaoi anime out there, so fujoshis jump at everything that even slightly reminds of shounen-ai. And this... thing is far, far beyond just undertones, it's almost full-fledged yaoi. And fujoshis are known to be the worst possible fans ever, exceeding even narutards and other shounenkids by a great margin. So no wonder they creating such a hype. Not to burst your bubble, but a MALL-poll with an okay sample of 222 people, showed that only 29% of the viewers are fujo/fudanshi. 24% of the viewers is LGBT+ and likes the healthy non-fetishized representation (in reality probably a little lower %) and 37% of the viewership is neutral towards same sex romance in anime (in reality probably a little higher %). I also wanted to add that sports anime that so happens to have a gay couple =/= yaoi or BL or shounen-ai anime. Claiming it's full fledged yaoi is an insult to the creators whose purpose has been to avoid such gross labels. Also, personally, the people who are in denial about their relationship tend to be way louder and more annoying and more offensive than fujos. But that's just how I view it. This is it. That's what I wanted to say. I have too many friends that aren't fujoshis but still watch and enjoy the anime. It's unique, it develops a healthy gay relationship and builds good character developpement, the art is stunning, and the music is flawless. Also @ everyone who thinks they didn't kiss : they DID. confirmed by the writers themself. Why are you trying to badly to prove that they're not in love ? I'm not trying to sound like and hysterical fangirl, but I'm stating the truth. Yuri On Ice broke the stereyotipes and made a gay couple cannon, is this what's bothering you? They're building a healthy, cute relationship out there but you're trying to convince yourselfs that there's no gay, cannon couple outside the shounen-ai/yaoi doors. That's an immature way of thinking. As much as I love the series, I'm sad that I have to burst your bubble with my pin of the meaning of lexical definition of yaoi. I agree that this anime is on a whole new level compared to any existing yaoi series, and it represents homosexual relationships in a way they always should have been, especially because there is a lot of controversy in Russia and Japan about same sex relalationships. Even the authors declared that they did not put yaoi in the genre tags. As wikipedia says: "Yaoi is a slang meaning 'boys love' or homosexuality that is used in the japanese language." So when someone says its yaoi they are not referring to the other forced drama based oversexualized carp, but the fact that its gay indeed. I don't think YoI should be sigmatized as a typical yaoi anime bc it clearly isnt, but the perspective you look at it is also wrong. I wish there would be another word that describes this kind of anime better but sadly there isn't anything like that yet and I'm pretty sure that in the next years or so based on how society evolves (Legalized gay marriage in us) people starting to get to understand them more and more and there will definetly be a correct word for this genre, but til then you have to stick with yaoi. It's a bit more complicated than that, though. If anything that prominently features a male/male relationship is yaoi then where does bara fit in, considering it is generally considered a separate genre? You could argue it's a matter of target audience, but a large number of gay men who aren't into the yaoi genre are enjoying the relationship depicted in YOI, and I don't think it's entirely by accident. Since yaoi is made to entertain women, bara is made to entertain man. Its simply like bara is yaoi's eclipse. I have never said that everything gay has to be yaoi but that YoI falls into the yaoi genre in regards of it's content and by definition. Although YoI has to be something else which is definetly more flexible. Me, a male myself watching this anime along with a female friend of mine, and yet we're both enjoying it. It has to mean something. I'm not demonstrateing that its equally enjoyable but it certainly has proven to be entertaining regardless of gender. I did not narrowed the target audience to encompass two countries of all but that the story revolves around these nations and their culture and shows that how different people should be atleast accepted if not understood. As a matter of fact the width of target audience is which makes YoI so great imo and that it actually tries to befriend different beliefs which I find truly revolutionary. |
Nov 30, 2016 10:41 AM
#36
| Why you say? Because it's real. Because it's different. Listen to the OP and the reasons pour in. |
Nov 30, 2016 3:08 PM
#37
Helenus said: oh hello sir I didn't really want to bring this up but didn't you say you were going to delete your account if proven that yuri and victor love each other and they end up being a couple.. oh well there's episode 7 but it looks like you're not convinced by an obvious kiss. okay fine.. let's move on.. now there's episode 9.. if it wasn't love idk what is.. you can try to explain to us what is love.I am eagerly looking forward to every episode. And to the fandom reactions even more so. P.S.: The so called 'confirmation' of the director is far from definite. A 'fictio' at best. P.P.S.: The purpose of this thread was to collect reasons for this shows popularity. And I did nothing more than name them. A well done, artistic looking fujobait/queerbait show. Did I ever say queerbait is bad? God, NO! Bring in the queerbait! |
Nov 30, 2016 3:20 PM
#38
| - The story is very good full of emotion, good messages, etc... - The art/animation and visuals are awesome - Likable characters - Makes you interested in figure skating - The music is pretty and nice - I like the actual diversity the anime is showing - The relationship of Yuuri and Victor and how the show is trying to normalize and make it socially acceptable with their affection |
BriBri812Nov 30, 2016 3:28 PM
Nov 30, 2016 3:22 PM
#39
Jonouchi-Katsuya said: As a shonen ai fan: This is the best shonen ai to come out ever. It actually has a healthy relationship not filled with drama that comes from the relationship and centers around making both characters stronger. Bringing the weaker to the stronger's level. From someone who has seen a lot of sports anime: He actually has a desirable coach. A knowledgeable coach. Someone who can actually make him excel. It doesn't take place in school. It features adults but there is a teen rival The rival has a reason to be his rival. They don't just fight the rival... they actually compete how you kinda would. They actually practice. The hero has faults that makes sense in the sport he is competing in. They don't make it stupid. PEOPLE FALL DOWN IN SKATING DID YOU KNOW THIS? haha. Also people mess up in sports. People get hurt. I think that pretty much summarizes it. This series has like a "reality" approach in the sense that it feels like it could happen in real life. Nothing is perfect but it isn't hell either. People have flaws and they grow with time and experience. |
Nov 30, 2016 10:49 PM
#40
| Well I watch it because of Ice Skating and Sports and I love the opening I think the reason it became popular is -it's new -has decent animation and music -the characters are interesting and ofcourse... GangsterCat said: because it's gay. |
QueenSapphireNov 30, 2016 11:03 PM
Dec 2, 2016 10:29 AM
#41
| It's not because it's just sports. All Out and the other four sports Anime this season are not as popular. Ice skating is quite easy to get into. You can watch it without knowledge of the sport but like the art. I am an example. I literally don't understand how they score the skaters but it's fun to watch. The art and music are outstanding. It's enticing. The voice actors are doing a great job. I mean, come on, Toshiyuki fucking Toyonaga. King of voice acting and singing. Also, yes, because they're not high school kids. |
Dec 3, 2016 9:11 AM
#42
| Some haters of fujoshi are getting very defensive recently, calling everything gay by assuming fujoshi bait. Personally, I'm not very into series with loads of fan service for men (for obvious reasons), but if a series is potentially good despite panty shots, I'll sure as heck give it a chance and look beyond the cute girls. Yuri on Ice was written more for women, and it shows. That alone doesn't make it good or bad. But Yuri on Ice is not literally fan service. The few naked scenes of Viktor are fan service, but the relationship between Yuuri and Viktor is not fan service, because it serves a huge purpose in the story. Fan service is a freebie, something of low importance that is included to please the audience. You can't possibly call the slowly budding (most likely completely canon) relationship between two main characters something of low importance. It's part of the story. The story is about sport, and love, and also touches important subjects like self-confidence, anxiety, etc. But as to the main subject of the thread, of course Yuri on Ice got a ton of attention with fujoshi. It's a major reason for its success. But more than the usual yaoi anime, it's not centered on the teenager-like drama of the relationship. It's got a more mature view. Add to that arguably well-written characters, no over-the-top sports antics, often gorgeous animation, and you got yourself some very relatable story elements, even without the homosexual romance. |
Dec 3, 2016 11:28 AM
#43
| They have characters that aren't the usual suspects. I have some objection on the series, but it has grown on me. |
Dec 3, 2016 3:18 PM
#44
| Because; -its original -has a well written story and characters, -good music, - beautiful animation (even if the quality drops a lot at some points) -nice character designs - shows queer romance with respect (and is not yaoi/shounen ai) - undermines some gender roles - is a good sports show (makes you cheer on the characters, shows stuff like contusions etc etc) I think it would be rather weird if it wouldnt be popular. Its def. the best anime o the season for me. If somebody doesnt watch such a good well rounded show only because two guys fall in love with each other, like if thats the only reason then I hope they miss out more good stuff because of their homophobia ^^ |
Dec 3, 2016 7:51 PM
#45
| It's the first Anime to cover figure skating, that's why. Characters are well-designed and it's drawn beautifully. I can't say the same for the characters personality because they'll all generic characters written by a female writer. It's geared toward female viewers and I can assure you that a majority of the views and fans are mostly females. Rayzer said: Because It's MAPPA Fujoshis Shitty Sports polygamy. MAL users. This why it's popular. Don't worry this will get on below top 100 where it belongs. THIS. I totally fucking agree. I said it before and I'll say it a fucking million times. Take away the figure skating element of this series and it's just an ordinary shoujo/josei series oozing with fanservice for mindless fujoshis. |
| 臭い- |
Dec 3, 2016 8:53 PM
#46
| Wow ...I only come to this site every once in a while, just to see what people are saying about different shows. I've never wanted to comment, though I am a massive anime fan, until now. Honestly I thought this season was a bust until I watched this one. I'm omnivorous with anime so anything goes but this season really has been filled with rehashed ideas and tropes. In short i was bored. So here are the reasons I have been recommending Yuri on ice . 1. It's so well researched it took me by surprise...I used to watch figure skating....they nailed a lot. 2. Sensitive writing. This anime is funny and yet still manages to develop the bitter sweet, fleeting world of top athletes. And yes romance... 3. The art and music is great for the most part. 4. I have been honestly surprised a couple of times... something other anime this fall has failed to do. |
Dec 4, 2016 12:38 AM
#47
| @Yaoi-Senpai, I didn't say about MAPPA's popularity. I just meant it is a very good studio. They just picked up poor sources to animate that's why they aren't that popular. Have you watch Shingeki no Bahamut or GARO: Honoo no Kokuin? EDIT: Yeah you didn't watched it. Because you only watch anime gay pron.<--- just a joke. |
| Haters always gonna hate. But they are all dumb asses who always love to bother unnecessarily. "Spread the Hate, Spread the Idiocy." |
Dec 4, 2016 4:40 AM
#48
Rayzer said: @Yaoi-Senpai, I didn't say about MAPPA's popularity. I just meant it is a very good studio. They just picked up poor sources to animate that's why they aren't that popular. Have you watch Shingeki no Bahamut or GARO: Honoo no Kokuin? EDIT: Yeah you didn't watched it. Because you only watch anime gay pron.<--- just a joke. Oh sorry, I thought you were talking about the Studio popularity. No I didn't watch them. Do you check the sales of your favorite series? Not sure about Bahamut (it has a poor sales but it's written that the game is popular) but Garo has a poor sales, and it's an Original anime, so I'm not sure why you mentioned it. Oh I know you are joking but I just want to make sure that not all Yaoi is porn. |
Dec 4, 2016 5:19 AM
#49
| @Yaoi-Senpai It's has poor sales because it was both set on Medieval Times. (Europe) I'm mentioning it because it's damn underrated. It was good and yet not popular. |
| Haters always gonna hate. But they are all dumb asses who always love to bother unnecessarily. "Spread the Hate, Spread the Idiocy." |
Dec 5, 2016 4:33 AM
#50
Bibimbapski said: It's the first Anime to cover figure skating, that's why. Rayzer said: Because It's MAPPA Fujoshis Shitty Sports polygamy. MAL users. This why it's popular. Don't worry this will get on below top 100 where it belongs. THIS. I totally fucking agree. I said it before and I'll say it a fucking million times. Take away the figure skating element of this series and it's just an ordinary shoujo/josei series oozing with fanservice for mindless fujoshis. That's like saying "take away the volleyball from Haikyuu and all you get is an ordinary slice of life". Of course you would- the sport takes up 90% of the shows runtime. |
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