paraze said: Just wanted to add something: enjoying sexist animus is probably not something to be "proud of" (in society etc). And feminists says that animus are quite often sexist and oppressive. It's natural that weebs would try to deny this fact, cuz they're weebs you know. I lol'd at some answers. If anime fans actually cared about how they are portrayed in society they wouldn't even bother watching anime to begin with. That shit doesn't come into the equation here. Also if you go to any other medium and start spouting femanizi drivel you would get the similar level of responses. |
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-Abyss_Walker- said: cookies0 said: Don't call her a dragon, dragons are cool, I think calling her a harpy, orc, kappa, or medusa would be more suitable. kappa is cool too. it shall not be tainted by the likes of her. Personally, I think kappa are rather creepy. At least the old illustrations, the new ones are kinda cute. Pictures of creepy kappa: |
-Abyss_Walker- said: paraze said: Just wanted to add something: enjoying sexist animus is probably not something to be "proud of" (in society etc). And feminists says that animus are quite often sexist and oppressive. It's natural that weebs would try to deny this fact, cuz they're weebs you know. I lol'd at some answers. If anime fans actually cared about how they are portrayed in society they wouldn't even bother watching anime to begin with. That shit doesn't come into the equation here. Also if you go to any other medium and start spouting femanizi drivel you would get the similar level of responses. Point taken, but from my experience, you're still more likely going to get fun answers by saying to some SAO fans that this series is sexist (with or without supporting this claim with arguments), than [random mainstream sexist show] to live movies fans. Sure, in every medium there are some people who might get triggered (the irony) by feminists claims, but I find anime fans especially defensive about it. And the anime medium really has a ton of stuff that SJW (that's not a negative thing for me) probably won't like. |
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Seiya said: cookies0 said: Don't call her a dragon, dragons are cool, I think calling her a harpy, orc, kappa, or medusa would be more suitable. Agreed. In my religion, Dragonitsu, Radicalism/Extremism is forbidden, thus meaning Feminists cannot associate themselves with the Dragons, as Feminists are extreme nutjobs. In my political ideology, extremism, only extreme people are fun and truly alive. |
| really? i always thought mal is full of lefties. just look at all those trans/gay/race threads. |
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| ah.. if you step inside the world of Tumblr ho boy There's a whole lotta Feminazi's & SJW's there dear lord I'm all for equality but this is too much why can't we just love each other?? also, the hate against Cishets, why? The word is extremely weirdass and dumb :/ |
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Seiya said: That's absurd, or unless you think my previous post was a joke(which it wasn't,) and you're just trying to mock me? I do hold extremism as political ideology, and I was trying to mock you. |
| Extremes are never good... Take the Shin Megami Tensei games for example...The extreme routes Law and Chaos are always fucked up, while the Neutral route is the most balanced... |
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HyperL said: Extremes are never good... Take the Shin Megami Tensei games for example...The extreme routes Law and Chaos are always fucked up, while the Neutral route is the most balanced... Wrong. The neutral path is also fucked up. |
I am too.. young.. to understand shin megami tensei.. i am sorry for being to young to understand old-school jrpgs.. |
Seiya said: demonskul777 said: I am too.. young.. to understand shin megami tensei.. i am sorry for being to young to understand old-school jrpgs.. Wait, you're talking about a video game? The previous quotes were collapsed, and I didn't see the posts about the game. Sorry about that. Yeah, he was comparing it to video game routes and i just replied to that. I usually don't take much of a stance in political discussions myself unless I really have something I stand for. + neutral is pretty hard to define in terms of politics, since it isn't all that black-and-white either way. I mean, in the end the public only gets fed the opposing sites, of course, but generally a very neutral party isn't really going to do much. It leads to passivity (in Belgium at least, but Belgian politics are a little complex though). And sometimes for change, an extremist stance is necessary. Though some extremes are too radical, but honestly feminism hasn't even gotten that bad, IMO, and the only really radical stances you ever see are from independent bloggers. At least I've never had to encounter feminism like that IRL. it might be different in the states or wherever though. |
| It's a natural reaction to attitudes that threaten the continued functioning of the industry/medium. Like how a lot of gamers back in the mid/late 2000s were against Christian Conservatives because of people like Jack Thompson, who are now anti SJW because of things like gamergate. And being anti sjw doesn't mean that you are a trump supporter, or even right wing. I'm a leftist and I hate SJWs more and for longer than most alt righters. |
demonskul777 said: HyperL said: Extremes are never good... Take the Shin Megami Tensei games for example...The extreme routes Law and Chaos are always fucked up, while the Neutral route is the most balanced... Wrong. The neutral path is also fucked up. Never say it wasn't. But it's the least fucked up of the three. Like I said, it's the most balanced... |
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HyperL said: demonskul777 said: Wrong. The neutral path is also fucked up. Never say it wasn't. But it's the least fucked up of the three. Like I said, it's the most balanced... Yeah, you're right. you didn't. I assumed too much. |
| And I am glad the community is like this. Current feminism and SJW ideals in general are complete bullshit. |
| Because anime is one of those few forms of media the USA (the country of origin of most SJWs) can't control. And seeing how little fucks Japan gives about their nonsense rhetoric is refreshing. LoneWolf said: Are we all horrible misogynists for watching chinese cartoons? This question is moot. You're a misogynist no matter what. Should anime be more inclusive to marginalized groups? What groups? Marginalized how and where? Should anime be labeled as pro-Trump propaganda and be internationally banned? Nah, all anime should be streamed on Wikileaks. |
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| Because stupid SWJs have to be against EVERYTHING and anime fans are going to defend what they love, of course. I am against misogyny AND misandry but I think it's stupid to try to control what others like. If male fans want to fap to underage anime girls, that's THEIR business. It's not like they're hurting REAL women by doing that. |
ChiibiNov 3, 2016 8:59 AM
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DoctorSexy said: EcchiLordMamster said: because its absolutely ridiculous how offended some people get by things, especially when said this IS NOT REAL ill never understand girls who get butthurt over girls in anime... theyre not you, nor do they represent you... so stop looking at them like that were moving down a road where "we can't hurt peoples feelings" no... lets instead ban/censor everything so SOME ppl don't get "offended" GET THE FUCK OUT... -___- I think mio said it best I'm Grateful to You for Coming, ... But **** Your Feelings Which Mio is this lol? Anyway, why the hell is it so difficult for ppl to just not watch? Why are feminists and ppl who hate fanservice even watching anime? |
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Because they're retarded and if they don't have something to complain about, their lives are meaningless....I guess. XD |
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Chiibi said: Because they're retarded and if they don't have something to complain about, their lives are meaningless....I guess. XD Aren't all our lives meaningless? :'( |
Chiibi said: Because they're retarded and if they don't have something to complain about, their lives are meaningless....I guess. XD Ill never understand the need ppl seem to have to complain about everything |
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demonskul777 said: Chiibi said: Because they're retarded and if they don't have something to complain about, their lives are meaningless....I guess. XD Aren't all our lives meaningless? :'( I am a Christian so no, mine is not meaningless. :p |
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Nexu said: It's because when they hear/see feminist they assume feminazi. Exactly, they seem to think we're some police force patrolling the streets, waiting to bash on any male walking by. We're just protesting against an oppressive force, it's almost amusing how they've managed to paint themselves as the victims when they are the very force oppressing the true victims. |
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There are only like 122 000 people named Christian in the USA. That's not many lives that matter. :'( |
Darek said: do I even have to say this? because they like other things about it and wanna watch anime for those things... Which, THEY CAN.....there are plenty of anime with things that appeal to feminists like clean, fanservice-free stories about strong-spirited girls.....so I don't know why they can't just be happy with those. |
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demonskul777 said: There are only like 122 000 people named Christian in the USA. That's not many lives that matter. :'( That's everyone else's problem then lol |
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Chiibi said: Darek said: do I even have to say this? because they like other things about it and wanna watch anime for those things... Which, THEY CAN.....there are plenty of anime with things that appeal to feminists like clean, fanservice-free stories about strong-spirited girls.....so I don't know why they can't just be happy with those. Yes, but it's like being restrained to an oasis in the middle of a toxic desert of misogyny. We didn't push women's rights to where it is now by being happy with our situation back then. |
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Darek said: Anti feminist and anti-sjw are rather vague terms but whatever I dunno Feminism is cancer SJWs are cancer Anti-feminism is cancer Anti-SJWs are cancer Anime is cancer I am cancer This is all just pure cancer. Maybe it is just because most of people are in a way anti feminism/sjw on the internet? This post is amusingly true for two reasons: 1. The terms are very vague and basically lump a disorganized bunch of different opinions into a single bundle just to flame them. 2. Everything is cancer, that's why it keeps spreading. Ceresia said: If I got it right, you mentioned fanservice not going together with right-wing views, but I actually feel like watching ecchi/harem anime and being a leftist/feminist is the one that's actually mutually exclusive? I don't feel like starting a debate on the ethics of anime but when it comes to ecchi/harem shows you'd hardly consider them feminist. [...] So yeah, I suppose this case is pretty similar to gaming. On the first look, a lot of gamers seem like anti-sjw right-winged types, but within the community there's also quite a few feminist, left-winged gamers as well. It's also the case that "left-wing"/"leftist" and "right-wing"/"rightist" are also various bundles of different -- sometimes even contrasting -- opinions. The "right-wing" opinions that OP is thinking of is that of the "religious right", the conservative family-values type that wants things to be prim and proper and not filled with what they consider to be immoral and indecent dreck, while the "right-wing" opinions you're thinking of is that of the anti-establishment right (sometimes called or closely associated with the "alt-right", depending on the definition of that term) which feels that modern society has gotten too nice and polite and expresses an unwillingness to talk about certain things, which they feel goes to the extent of suppressing such talk. Meanwhile, free speech rights are also often associated with liberalism/"leftist" views, as a part of human rights in general, which seeks to respect the dignity of every person and discourage practices of demeaning that dignity. Problem is that some people on the "left" advocate badly for this position and then get labeled as "SJWs" and then the "right" starts sticking this "SJW" label on everyone on the "left" and then the conflict just gets blown further out of proportion than it already is. And you can see how that "left"/"right" distinction starts to get complicated once we actually get into actual positions on issues. SeidouTZ said: OT: Not only the anime community, but everyone in general is growing tired of those people and for good reasons. Feminists and SJWs are huge advocates of censorship. I lost count on the amount of articlues/blog posts claiming that anime, manga, video games, etc.. promote misogyny and as such should be censor. Despite being works of FICTION. So i can't really blame people for being pretty anti-feminist/SJWs. I dunno about you, but I've seen more anti-feminist and anti-"SJW" opining than I've seen feminist and "SJW" opining, and lately I've gotten more and more annoyed at the anti- side because they just show up everywhere shadowboxing at (what they perceive as) feminists and SJWs. |
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LoneWolf said: I highly doubt anime is some right-wing haven considering the amount of fanservice and generally bizarre elements that most anime have so what about anime exactly is attracting so many of these people? considering it through a right-wing lens doesn't make sense because it's not the traditional right-wing, it's a more reactionary subset of the right-wing which is less interested in tradition and more interested in reacting against left-wingers. the reactionary mindset is often pretty self-pitying and resentful and primarily male. sound like the demographic of any websites you know? |
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GlennMagusHarvey said: I agree wholeheartedly. These so-called "anti-SJWs" keep appearing and posting straw men arguments and circlejerk hate for feminist movements. It's about time someone spoke up about all this madness.I dunno about you, but I've seen more anti-feminist and anti-"SJW" opining than I've seen feminist and "SJW" opining, and lately I've gotten more and more annoyed at the anti- side because they just show up everywhere shadowboxing at (what they perceive as) feminists and SJWs. |
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Darek said: Chiibi said: Which, THEY CAN.....there are plenty of anime with things that appeal to feminists like clean, fanservice-free stories about strong-spirited girls.....so I don't know why they can't just be happy with those. But what if there are anime they like that have fanservice? I am not talking just about feminists but anime fans overall, do they have no right to watch it if they don't like that one thing about them? *shrugs* There are plenty of anime I like that have fanservice and I like it IN SPITE of that. No media is perfect, you can't make something that will please EVERYONE....that's just a fact of life you have to accept. Yes, but it's like being restrained to an oasis in the middle of a toxic desert of misogyny. We didn't push women's rights to where it is now by being happy with our situation back then. Lol what are you talking about; do you even watch shoujo anime or magical girl anime? You can't affect Japan's media directly unless you live there. Complaining about it on the internet is meaningless and a waste of time. |
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literally-who said: anime thrives on objectifying women Whether the portrayal of women in anime is a good or a bad thing is actually a pretty complicated question. One could say it's a bad thing because it's very sexualizing and by thus objectifying, but one could also say it's a good thing for all those series that feature female characters doing all sorts of cool things like being astronauts, military commanders, genius inventors, heroes of fantasy stories, and so on. Seiya said: Feminists are extreme nutjobs. Do keep in mind that "feminist" itself is a label for a pretty wide range of people, from lazy internet wanksters to people who go to war-torn parts of the world to do dirty hands-on humanitarian work. WeepingLala said: I don't think the anime community actually has a lot of SJWs or anything like that. I'm pretty sure they just somehow hear about "anti-feminist" anime like Keijo and decide that they need to do something about it. Discourse on the internet tends to be dominated by the people who feel the strongest about the issues at hand, and for that reason make their voices the loudest. TheBrainintheJar said: A lot of people aren't good with literary analysis. They think that when someone mentions misogyny, they threaten to censor their favorite anime. Notice how these people rarely respond to arguments. Rather, it's a lot of ad hominem direct at feminists - feminists do this! They'll steal our precious liquids! It's mostly a moral panic. internet political arguments in a nutshell Chiibi said: You can't affect Japan's media directly unless you live there. You kinda can, through things like western DVD and merchandise sales, but it's a very indirect and hard-to-control effect. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: Exactly. The best example of this is Shiza-Sennin, who only appears when he wants to troll and talks about how feminists are disturbing his life. All he does is put up insults and straw men, and yet most of the Fate fanbase regard him as some amazing poster.A lot of people aren't good with literary analysis. They think that when someone mentions misogyny, they threaten to censor their favorite anime. Notice how these people rarely respond to arguments. Rather, it's a lot of ad hominem direct at feminists - feminists do this! They'll steal our precious liquids! It's mostly a moral panic. |
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