Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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bajingloncat said: Sorry i m new here, but ive put the spoiler, though i want to give more salt to mal users and hope for official alternative ending Tappei create the IF- chapters because His knows those Rem fans will throw salt storms to this series. |
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| This would have been one interesting love story and one that had made sense if Subaru had accepted her because she accepts his true self and in this episode she actually saves him. Subaru needed to be acknowledged for everything he has done for all the characters in the show, because i think the lack of it was the reason why he acted the way he did in all these last episodes, but no one knew... until this girl finally tells him how he affected her and all of them. But this Suburu is just what he is... i guess |
huntxAug 2, 2016 6:30 AM
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| that rem rejection though... Rem is the best you know...... |
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Guys.... we get it, Rem is best girl/waifu/demon/maid of all time, wait, of all anime characters forever, Emilia's got nothin on her, literally nothing, Emilia's trash who has no development and a minor supporting character, Rem is the main heroine and she'll have Subaru's babies in the future. Now can we just change topic, I wanna read people's opinions and thoughts about Subaru's development and theories of what may happen from here on out, sorry if this sounded a lil bit rude to anyone, Im just tired of all this best girl waifu BS over and over with each ep thread. |
-StrayAug 2, 2016 6:40 AM
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Buck_Wade said: TadpoleSHero said: OH HECK YES. This is exactly what I needed from this show and from Subaru. I am SO HAPPY with this episode! Rem is the best. Subaru has taken his first real step towards being a hero. I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS. And yelling at him a lot. His negativity lasted a little too long for my tastes. I was hoping for the best even as I freaking hated him the past five or so episodes. This is my favorite episode so far. I love the creative choice to have the entire episode really just be a talk, in one place, between Subaru and Rem. Rem cemented herself as the best character. And Subaru made the turnaround he needed, the turnaround this show needed from him. I WAS GRINNING THROUGH THIS WHOLE EPISODE I'M SO HAPPY YESSSS GO SUBARU GO REM DON'T LOSE THIS BEAUTIFUL NEW START. Oh, and Puck as a giant beast was pretty dope. Surprised to hear that after reading your negative opinions on the previous episodes. I'm not judging you, just surprised. Yeah I get that :) I kept saying I was holding out hope, explaining what I wanted from Subaru, and this episode delivered on it. Whenever a show is still airing, I'm always ready to revise my opinions as things change. Depending on how this season finishes, I think Subaru's "garbage arc" (Arc 3) will be one of the most important parts of the show, where we get to see him fall before rising again in fantastic fashion. I'm looking forward to what comes next, because they totally delivered on exactly what I'd been hoping for from the past 3-5 episodes. It's really exciting :) |
| Wow, the episode was dominated by just one conversation/therapy session, but I was completely hooked. How much more lovable will Rem become? It wasn't easy to watch her smiling through the blunt rejection. So this is where Subaru gets his shit together and starts actually making the correct choices, right? ..Right? |
| God damn....I swear this endless loops and tryin to breakthrough it again and again totally got me... I never liked bad ended stories and this damn boy keeps pushin bad ends and tryin to turn them into good continues.. This story has really touched my weak spot and kinda race for the favorites of mine.. |
ELRoSRoNDAug 2, 2016 7:08 AM
| Damn, the iceberg came immediately. ,Most human character? Most human character. |
All people have their own sh*t tastes, therefore, there are no sh*t tastes, since everything is equally sh*t. A VERY LOGICAL PHILOSOPHY |
| I was furious at Subaru for a couple of seconds until it dawned on me that he was being honest and that's a big part of becoming a better person. I also liked how it acknowledged that his previous character-personality as a NEET carried over into this world, despite the change in circumstances. He has to change himself in order to evade this Sysyphus cycle he's been on. Hopefully this really is a new start for him. Rem, what a great girl. Kudos to her. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
Shrimperor said: Jagd84 said: -snip- Yes yes. Subaru x Emilia is best developed Ship in animu ever with 100% Chemistry and EMF is best Character developed in 2016. EMP 2gud, 2gud. Making strawmans aren't gonna hide the rivers of salt coming outta ass waifu warrior. |
| Finally! I am happy to see Subaru laughs/smile again all because of REM. I feel so drained ππ ππ© Poor Rem :'( |
| Subaru has become a whiny little bitch. |
toneytigre said: Subaru has become a whiny little bitch. He has always been a whiny little cunt. |
I can't imagine WhiteFox not making an OVA from this IF chapter. |
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| Good Lord! Am I the only one who's for once happy that this was probably the first episode where Subaru finally made some progress by finally coming to his senses?? Coming to terms with how retarded he's been this far is the only way he's going to make any progress. And honestly, he did the right thing by staying true to his feelings! Yeah, poor Rem but feelings don't just change like that. |
VeritasEtLux said: This. Stop. Breaking. My. Heart. Like seriously, it's already too sad. Rem fans desperately need that OVA (if White Fox actually plans to do it), then the series is completed for them. It's like OreImo story. Every1 knows Ruri is best girl, but... |
| .. Everyone lost his mind over a ship in a non-romance anime while forgetting the plot ... that's not cool people appreciate the characters and accept them .. bashing emilia and saying she's trash won't change a thing.. subaru had been saying he loves emilia since ep6 and as we see he's not the type to give it up easily ..why is even anyone surprised :\ ? i mean we all love rem and are sad for her .. but it's not that much of thing to be angry about .. subaru doesn't deserve all that hate |
FodshelloAug 2, 2016 10:48 AM
Shrimperor said: Jagd84 said: -snip- Yes yes. Subaru x Emilia is best developed Ship in animu ever with 100% Chemistry and EMF is best Character developed in 2016. EMP 2gud, 2gud. So this is what you do when you run out of arguments? Very classy |
Jagd84 said: Shrimperor said: Yes yes. Subaru x Emilia is best developed Ship in animu ever with 100% Chemistry and EMF is best Character developed in 2016. EMP 2gud, 2gud. Making strawmans aren't gonna hide the rivers of salt coming outta ass waifu warrior. I learned from the best Waifu Warriors on the Forum, aka you and Rehls. The Holy Emilia Knights. And i am not even salty about the episode lol. I pretty much liked the ep. Yeah, but let's keep assuming what other people are kek. Red_Ranger_Wien said: Shrimperor said: Yes yes. Subaru x Emilia is best developed Ship in animu ever with 100% Chemistry and EMF is best Character developed in 2016. EMP 2gud, 2gud. So this is what you do when you run out of arguments? Very classy What arguments? didn't i agree with you all that Emilia is the perfect grill and that Subaru x EMP is the best thing to happen since slice bread, objectively? I mean, Your guys Point of view is the Objective Point of View.^^ |
ShrimperorAug 2, 2016 12:05 PM
| Now then lets discuss this episode lol After last weeks strong episode and dark cliffhanger i was anxious to see what happens next and boy i was not disappointed. First of all Puck is just awesome even the giant version of him His quote about talking to a spirit about the concept of time was right on. The confession that Subaru made to Rem about wanting to leave was actually pretty sweet as was Rem's response to that. Rems thoughts about the future was actually pretty nice and part of me wished that will happen if they had simply left the capital. The confession of Rem was beautifully done and i can't praise Inori Minase enough as she is portraying Rem beautifully and perfectly. Everything about the confession scene was excellently done and i can see that they had put a lot of effort into it to which im thankful. Another thing about this episode that i liked was that Subaru finally admitted to all the flaws that he has and all the promises that he keeps breaking but rather being negative this i felt was a positive thing as it will enable you to know what you need to do to change that and as Rem said we all start from zero. In the end im glad that Subaru didn't forget about Emilia as though Rem is still as lovable, cute and pretty as Emilia she is not the primary heroine and Emilia has helped Subaru just as much times as well. Though i love Rem as a character i still want Subaru to be with Emilia who he has loved since the first time he met her. Anyway this was a fantastic episode and i loved the confessions and the fact that Subaru has finally recovered. Now then lets go save Emilia and Ram from their destiny |
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Rehls said: You're just too used to short stories haha. kek. Stop assuming what people do, read or anything. Dude I don't care about 'waifus' Suuuuuuuuuureeeeeeeeeeee. |
Shrimperor said: I learned from the best Waifu Warriors on the Forum, aka you and Rehls. The Holy Emilia Knights. And i am not even salty about the episode lol. I pretty much liked the ep. Yeah, but let's keep assuming what other people are kek. When you need to keep attacking Emilia then start shallow name calling because some disagrees then you're salt. I don't think I haven't seen your other posts. Unlike you I actually don't care about who Subaru ends up with he has valid reasons to go eitherway, but it's entirely his choice and his feeling should dictate that unless he's denied. Nobody like you should tell him otherwise. |
Jagd84 said: When you need to keep attacking Emilia then start shallow name calling because some disagrees then you're salt. I don't think I haven't seen your other posts. ''We need more Emilia so we can atleast care for her becaue atm she is a side Character'' = Attacking and bashing her? Wow. Unlike you I actually don't care about who Subaru ends up with he has valid reasons to go eitherway, but it's entirely his choice and his feeling should dictate that unless he's denied. Nobody like you should tell him otherwise. If you actually did read my Posts, you would've seen my ''Feelings are Illogical''-Post everywhere. But let's call every one who slightly disagrees a basher and a salty man. And how your Opinions are objective kek. Rehls said: Stop hiding and playing the victim card. You're becoming almost too pitiful to deal with. That's your intent, huh? Ya know. You need to stop being personal during arguments. I never once played a 'victim card'. You keep assuming and putting words in people's mouth. |
ShrimperorAug 2, 2016 12:50 PM
| It was an ok build up episode, with a little character development, but nothing we haven't seen, nor nothing new that the characters themselves haven't said. The dialogue between Subaru and Rem could've been cut in half and make more progression for the story than having us watch something we, the audience already knew, as well as the characters themselves already knew. It was ok that Subaru admitted that he made mistakes for the past couple of days and that he needs to change that attitude, but it was unnecessarily prolonged and other important bits could've been introduced, i.e., Betelgeuses' backstory, tho it's nothing special, but still, they could've shown why he's the way it is, even tho I critiqued his character in a previous discussion and I still think it's a bad villain, but it would've suffice to move forward or learn something new. However, we did learn something about the spirits and a possible connection between Emilia and Satella, stemming from the fact that Emilia first introduced herself as Satella, the Witch of Envy and then Puck saying that if she were to die [Emilia], Puck is going to destroy the world, which gives a resemblance to the Witch itself. However, one thing is puzzling me, or perhaps it's a plothole that was overlooked, but why didn't Puck start a blizzard when Subaru found Emilia dead in the tavern in the first episodes? Or I am mixing up characters and she never died alone? |
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Shrimperor said: Jagd84 said: When you need to keep attacking Emilia then start shallow name calling because some disagrees then you're salt. I don't think I haven't seen your other posts. ''We need more Emilia so we can atleast care for her becaue atm she is a side Character'' = Attacking and bashing her? Wow. Unlike you I actually don't care about who Subaru ends up with he has valid reasons to go eitherway, but it's entirely his choice and his feeling should dictate that unless he's denied. Nobody like you should tell him otherwise. If you actually did read my Posts, you would've seen my ''Feelings are Illogical''-Post everywhere. But let's call every one who slightly disagrees a basher and a salty man. And how your Opinions are objective kek. Rehls said: Stop hiding and playing the victim card. You're becoming almost too pitiful to deal with. That's your intent, huh? Ya know. You need to stop being personal during arguments. I never once played a 'victim card'. You keep assuming and putting words in people's mouth. God, this is sad. You got salty when someone disagreed with you and then when you started using strawmen and playing the victim card you started whining about people "getting personal" when they called it out. If you think they're wrong then honestly contest their points instead of acting like they're out to get you. |
Rehls said: Shrimperor said: I learned from the best Waifu Warriors on the Forum, aka you and Rehls. The Holy Emilia Knights. And i am not even salty about the episode lol. I pretty much liked the ep. Yeah, but let's keep assuming what other people are kek. Dude I don't care about 'waifus'. But I know the reasons for Emilia to be of more value to Subaru than Rem. Shrimperor said: What arguments? didn't i agree with you all that Emilia is the perfect grill and that Subaru x EMP is the best thing to happen since slice bread, objectively? I mean, Your guys Point of view is the Objective Point of View.^^ There's no issue with not more of her being shown, objectively speaking. It'll be shown later, as the story's long. Doesn't matter if you were expecting otherwise. There's no rule for this. You're just too used to short stories, like many. This story would've turned into SAO if the author were to listen to unreasonable demands from the fans. This is what I heard happened there. And in the interest of being fair. You having no problem with not seeing more of Emillia is subjective, not objective. |
| Just to clear my side, Red_Ranger_Wien said: And in the interest of being fair. You having no problem with not seeing more of Emillia is subjective, not objective. And that's exactly what i was being salty about. If you look back, he, and some other people, have been calling their opinions ''objective'' way before i started going full sarcasm mode. Also, Red_Ranger_Wien said: God, this is sad. You got salty when someone disagreed with you and then when you started using strawmen and playing the victim card you started whining about people "getting personal" when they called it out. If you think they're wrong then honestly contest their points instead of acting like they're out to get you. He started going personal way before i went sarcasm. I was actually argueing before he pulled the ''my opinion is objective''-card. Of course i was pissed of after that, and instead of offending anyone i went with sarcasm. Just to call you out on your bullshit: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1538815&show=1050#msg47192015 Yeah, I don't consider Emilia's situation a problem. Objectively speaking. |
Good God. Not this again. Stop saying Opinions are objective. And I told that in my subjective view You were subjective. All the time. Like all of us. |
Rehls said: Shrimperor said: Good God. Not this again. Stop saying Opinions are objective. You were subjective. All the time. Like all of us. Wrong. I've proven you that it isn't the case. The story continues and more of her will be revealed later. Your demands for more of her to be shown are unreasonable. you haven't proven a thing. You not having a problem with it isn't objective. It's your opinion. It's subjective. |
Rehls said: There are Objective Opinions .... I won't even comment on this. Mr. Objective Opinion. There no use arguing with you. |
Rehls said: Shrimperor said: you haven't proven a thing. You not having a problem with it isn't objective. It's your opinion. It's subjective. I have. This is why you're not arguing about it. You can't. Objectively, there's no problem. How many times I've to repeat this? There are Objective Opinions and Subjective Opinions. One is based on facts, and the other on feelings. It's a fact that the story won't end in 25 episodes. And that the story is supposed to make sense, not give in to unreasonable viewer's demands. So I don't mind it. Now my feelings about this? I don't care, either. I don't care enough about Emilia. I care more about the thugs. Period.  Triggered by your "objective opinions" http://www.dictionary.com/browse/opinion Opinion noun 1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty. 2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal. 3. the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion. 4. Law. the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case. 5. a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion. 6. a favorable estimate; esteem: I haven't much of an opinion of him. Dictionary 1 - you 0 |
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