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Aug 1, 2016 7:12 PM

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LOL what the hell are you even talking about !!! are you seriouly reading my comment's ? i just said emillia serve as a love interset for subaru and rem also become love interset for him later

story is 15% or 10% compelet it doesn't matter emillia as of right now is a side character not moew no less

don't bring nonsense out of blue just for the sake of argument


It matters, yes. -_- The issue was with not more of her being shown, though she's clearly important to the story.

So what's your complaint? Her role is not only of 'love interest'. The role she plays in the story is being of great effect to it, still.


No it doesn , what you saying right it just like back in when episode 4 was airing and someone come and tell you Rem is best Girl in the series lol i don't give a shit let me see it myself and then i will judge

I have said my complaining for the past 6-7 replays but you keep ignoring
emilia lock screen time and character development and don't have role in the story as of now she just there to be love interset for subaru unlike Rem
Aug 1, 2016 7:17 PM
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Devil_Slayer said:
Rehls said:


It matters, yes. -_- The issue was with not more of her being shown, though she's clearly important to the story.

So what's your complaint? Her role is not only of 'love interest'. The role she plays in the story is being of great effect to it, still.


No it doesn , what you saying right it just like back in when episode 4 was airing and someone come and tell you Rem is best Girl in the series lol i don't give a shit let me see it myself and then i will judge

I have said my complaining for the past 6-7 replays but you keep ignoring
emilia lock screen time and character development and don't have role in the story as of now she just there to be love interset for subaru unlike Rem


It's fine if you think better of Rem, eh. And that you believe she'll remain the best 'waifu', eh.

The fact that more of her will be revealed later matters, eh. Anyway.
Aug 1, 2016 7:36 PM
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I need backsound this episode..
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Aug 1, 2016 7:48 PM
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This episode offended me personally. What a stone cold rejection from a main protagonist who has been annoying me since episode 1. I understand what the episode was going for and respect their noble attempts to get the messy plot back on track, but this episode would have been much better if they had given the Rem ship a more honourable send-off. We all knew that she would have to hit the chopping block eventually but this was just silly. Give the two of them an incredibly intimate scene and shit on it with Emilia propaganda. This has been a terrible blow to the series, ditching the most well written romantic plotline for the bland and boring Emilia route (honestly I'd honestly prefer the Puck route). I don't think that this series has done a stellar job with any of its characters (Rem included) but Emilia does not serve her role in the plot and I don't find her in any way likeable. Before sinking the best ship in the series give us a passable alternative.
Aug 1, 2016 8:06 PM

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Subaru: "I love Emilia".
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Aug 1, 2016 8:11 PM

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Doesn't allows for now. It's more realistic this way. Obligations in life separate people from each other sometimes. When someone travels, for example. ... There's something really wrong with you complaining about this. I see no good reason. ... If Subaru were then to remain alone, then we can presume that the show would lose, more than gain. But Subaru wasn't by himself. There was Beatrice, Ram and Rem. And we know very little about Emilia to have a good notion of how much we 'lost'.

Doesn't change the fact that the suppossed Main girl is a minor side Character. Plot allows it or no, to only be there 3 times in 18 episodes is side Character thing. Even Beako had more of a role then her.

Maybe later on in the series She will get some role, but right now, Emilia, and especially Subaru's Obsession with her is the biggest weakness of the series.


You keep saying three times even though everyone here knows that isn't true.
Aug 1, 2016 8:32 PM
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Barrian14 said:
This episode offended me personally. What a stone cold rejection from a main protagonist who has been annoying me since episode 1. I understand what the episode was going for and respect their noble attempts to get the messy plot back on track, but this episode would have been much better if they had given the Rem ship a more honourable send-off. We all knew that she would have to hit the chopping block eventually but this was just silly. Give the two of them an incredibly intimate scene and shit on it with Emilia propaganda. This has been a terrible blow to the series, ditching the most well written romantic plotline for the bland and boring Emilia route (honestly I'd honestly prefer the Puck route). I don't think that this series has done a stellar job with any of its characters (Rem included) but Emilia does not serve her role in the plot and I don't find her in any way likeable. Before sinking the best ship in the series give us a passable alternative.


I'm sorry, but what better and mature way to end the possible romance between the two then one of them rejecting the other, out loud, in person, honestly? It's sicking to imagine one repaying a debt to someone by deciding to be their romantic partner despite their feelings saying otherwise. Throughout the ep, what Rem was saying was an IF, and Subaru was asking her to run away with him, not marry him or anything.
Aug 1, 2016 8:34 PM

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Red_Ranger_Wien said:
You keep saying three times even though everyone here knows that isn't true.

Yes yes. Emilia appeared every episode all the time and has the best development in the anime and is the best main ever. Thank you.
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Shrimperor said:
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You keep saying three times even though everyone here knows that isn't true.

Yes yes. Emilia appeared every episode all the time and has the best development in the anime and is the best main ever. Thank you.


Not what I said at all but exaggeration appears to be your modus oparandi of choice
Aug 1, 2016 8:42 PM

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Red_Ranger_Wien said:
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Yes yes. Emilia appeared every episode all the time and has the best development in the anime and is the best main ever. Thank you.


Not what I said at all but exaggeration appears to be your modus oparandi of choice

What exaggeration, dear Sir?
I humbly believe that Emilia is the best Character ever. can't you see her development? The Characterization? All the Screen time? Her being a True Main?
If not, i doubt you were watching the same series as us^^
Aug 1, 2016 8:53 PM

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Perfectly description this week episode
Aug 1, 2016 8:55 PM

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Finally, the "who is Rem" meme is over

Yeah time to start the "Who is Subaru" meme cuz that nikka is dead to me.
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Aug 1, 2016 8:58 PM

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this is loop 4 now? or 5? can't remember.

anyhows, Rem is incredibly stupid and unrealistic. 3dpd girls NEVER act like the way Rem did when Subaru proposed to run away together. Isn't she head over heels for him? Nonono, I FUCKING REFUSE that just happened. If Rem really loves him then she'd be willing to throw away everything else and run away with him.

Well, you deserve the rejection.
kidlat020Aug 1, 2016 9:33 PM
>I had no brain when I was 12
>Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12
>I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12
>Therefore children cannot consent

This is what science has done to humanity.
Aug 1, 2016 9:37 PM
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kidlat020 said:
this is loop 4 now? or 5? can't remember.

anyhows, Rem is incredibly stupid and unrealistic. 3dpd girls NEVER act like the way Rem did when Subaru proposed to run away together. Isn't she head over heels for him? Nonono, I FUCKING REFUSE that just happened. If Rem really loves him then she'd be willing to throw away everything else and run away with him.

Well, you deserve the rejection.


She loves him, but not to a creepy point (Yuno from Future Diary) where she doesn't care for his own well being. If she agreed to run away with Subaru, they would be throwing away a huge part of Subaru: someone who never gives up, as badly as she wants to start a life with him. The dialogue outright states her reasoning.
Aug 1, 2016 9:40 PM
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just watched it ,and damned i cried,a lot. i was ready to throw my laptop when subaru answered rem but decided against it since rem's still happy.
Aug 1, 2016 9:44 PM

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OH HECK YES.

This is exactly what I needed from this show and from Subaru. I am SO HAPPY with this episode!

Rem is the best.

Subaru has taken his first real step towards being a hero. I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS. And yelling at him a lot. His negativity lasted a little too long for my tastes. I was hoping for the best even as I freaking hated him the past five or so episodes.

This is my favorite episode so far. I love the creative choice to have the entire episode really just be a talk, in one place, between Subaru and Rem. Rem cemented herself as the best character. And Subaru made the turnaround he needed, the turnaround this show needed from him. I WAS GRINNING THROUGH THIS WHOLE EPISODE I'M SO HAPPY YESSSS GO SUBARU GO REM DON'T LOSE THIS BEAUTIFUL NEW START.

Oh, and Puck as a giant beast was pretty dope.
Aug 1, 2016 9:49 PM

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Well
I know who I ship
But i no longer know who i WANT to ship
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Aug 1, 2016 9:50 PM

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Buck_Wade said:
kidlat020 said:
this is loop 4 now? or 5? can't remember.

anyhows, Rem is incredibly stupid and unrealistic. 3dpd girls NEVER act like the way Rem did when Subaru proposed to run away together. Isn't she head over heels for him? Nonono, I FUCKING REFUSE that just happened. If Rem really loves him then she'd be willing to throw away everything else and run away with him.

Well, you deserve the rejection.


She loves him, but not to a creepy point (Yuno from Future Diary) where she doesn't care for his own well being. If she agreed to run away with Subaru, they would be throwing away a huge part of Subaru: someone who never gives up, as badly as she wants to start a life with him. The dialogue outright states her reasoning.


love >>>>>> reasons
>I had no brain when I was 12
>Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12
>I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12
>Therefore children cannot consent

This is what science has done to humanity.
Aug 1, 2016 9:52 PM
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eh it was kind of boring like after he got the point across it was just him and rem reiterating their points back and forth until subaru caved? but im really happy that subaru could finally see how annoying he was and that he wanted to fix it. i really hope they dont have him do the exact same things that he did before but have him magically succeed this time after everythign he did??

i wish subaru would just listen to emilia for once?

also rem made me cry she could do so much better thank subaru
Aug 1, 2016 9:57 PM

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Shunaria said:
Perfectly description this week episode
do we really need to post this that much?
Aug 1, 2016 10:19 PM

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The shippers still going wild, I see
Aug 1, 2016 10:21 PM
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OH HECK YES.

This is exactly what I needed from this show and from Subaru. I am SO HAPPY with this episode!

Rem is the best.

Subaru has taken his first real step towards being a hero. I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS. And yelling at him a lot. His negativity lasted a little too long for my tastes. I was hoping for the best even as I freaking hated him the past five or so episodes.

This is my favorite episode so far. I love the creative choice to have the entire episode really just be a talk, in one place, between Subaru and Rem. Rem cemented herself as the best character. And Subaru made the turnaround he needed, the turnaround this show needed from him. I WAS GRINNING THROUGH THIS WHOLE EPISODE I'M SO HAPPY YESSSS GO SUBARU GO REM DON'T LOSE THIS BEAUTIFUL NEW START.

Oh, and Puck as a giant beast was pretty dope.


Surprised to hear that after reading your negative opinions on the previous episodes. I'm not judging you, just surprised.
Aug 1, 2016 10:38 PM

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TadpoleSHero said:
OH HECK YES.

This is exactly what I needed from this show and from Subaru. I am SO HAPPY with this episode!

Rem is the best.

Subaru has taken his first real step towards being a hero. I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS. And yelling at him a lot. His negativity lasted a little too long for my tastes. I was hoping for the best even as I freaking hated him the past five or so episodes.

This is my favorite episode so far. I love the creative choice to have the entire episode really just be a talk, in one place, between Subaru and Rem. Rem cemented herself as the best character. And Subaru made the turnaround he needed, the turnaround this show needed from him. I WAS GRINNING THROUGH THIS WHOLE EPISODE I'M SO HAPPY YESSSS GO SUBARU GO REM DON'T LOSE THIS BEAUTIFUL NEW START.

Oh, and Puck as a giant beast was pretty dope.



If you like this episode I'm sure you will enjoyed the rest. The real deal starting from here.
Aug 1, 2016 10:45 PM

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Shrimperor said:

You are contradicting yourself right now. ''Subaru loves Emilia because she saved him from some thugs'' ''Subaru shouldn't love Rem because she saved him from things that are 632356525 worse then 3 thugs''.

Love shoudln't be about Whom saved whom, but you are not argumenting any better with Subaru x EMP.


What in the world are you going on about? I never once said that. I my point was saving someone was not excuse to expect emotional obligation from hem. If you're helping someone out of love you do regardless of whether you will be loved. You make the target of your affection aware feelings, but shouldn't be guilt tripped into it. The y need to be the one to accept on their own.

Atleast Subaru and Rem had interactions.


Subaru and Emilia have had plenty of interactions, I'm not surprised it slipped through you goldfish like memory just how Subaru and Rem barely interacted for half of Arc 2 outside murdering and torturing him did. I don't particular care either since I actually like Rem and I'm not low enough to use her attack others characters out of ignorance and butthurt.
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Subaru: I AM USELESS I HATE MYSELF

Rem: I LOVE YOU SUBARU

Subaru: OK, I AM FANTASTIC AND I LOVE EMILIA LoOoOL, HELP ME SAVE HER?

Rem: YES! :))))))))

ROFL the writing is beyond atrocious.

For the first 17 minutes of the latest episode Subaru was the most real, the most intelligent, and the most relatable that he has ever been the entire series, and I actually managed to really feel something for him. Then it all went down the drain.

Rem is just flatly written waifu bait. There are multi-dimensional fascinating characters that would also happen to make a great waifu, and there are characters that exist for the sole reason of pandering to the viewers. Rem unfortunately is the latter. There's zero personality or thought behind any of her actions other than being in love with the mc. As far as I'm concerned her character development died episodes ago the moment she fell for Subaru.

There are so many interesting things the show could focus on like the five candidates for the throne, or what exactly is the witch, or what are Roswall's (and the other backers) true intentions, but it just chooses to show a boy's unhealthy obsession with a girl he barely even knows and waifu wars.

Subaru's rant was really great and memorable though. Hits way too close to home.


LMFAOOOOOOOOOO! NICELY SAID! GOOD SUMMARY TOO AHAHAHGAHGS!

his rant applies to a lot of people here it seems, would explain why this show has such high ratings. agahgagas
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Aug 1, 2016 11:22 PM
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Yuzuryn said:
The shippers still going wild, I see


Because nobody here has any actual experience with interacting with other people.
Aug 1, 2016 11:25 PM

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Aug 2, 2016 12:04 AM

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That was weird. Rem quickly got degraded from a simple character to just cute sidekick. How can you stay calm after rejection like that?
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F*CK! That's why we love re zero. Only dialog but the feels really hit my heart. Damn Emilia, why she must exist!!
Zero kara Hajimeru!!

-Jangan suka ena-ena
Aug 2, 2016 12:29 AM
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Barnald said:
That was weird. Rem quickly got degraded from a simple character to just cute sidekick. How can you stay calm after rejection like that?


She didn't. She tried to hide her emotions but when he surprisingly embraced her, she burst out in tears. And I think deep down she knew most of his attention was reserved for Emilia; there's no reason for her to be surprised by his statement about loving Emilia.
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Prog_upworks13 said:
The real deal starting from here.

I'm sure I've seen this on every discussion thread since episode 3
Aug 2, 2016 12:55 AM

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Holy cow, this show.
On one hand, I greatly appreciate the respite from the "everybody dies" gore-fest,
But on the other, the show still does not give any respite from the tugging of the heart-strings.
No idea how they're going to get out of this, but I suspect that having Rem firmly on Subaru's side is going to play a huge part. And surely much more to come from Puck. I am eager to learn more about that whole situation.

Holy cow.
Aug 2, 2016 12:56 AM

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Over a 20 minute scene, 95% of the episode, where all sort of feelings are poured out and Rem confesses her deep love for Subaru and he's just like, yeeeeaa... I actually like Emilia tho. Lmfao that's hilarious
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Puck is so damn awesome, I love how they portray the character in its more monstrous form.

The suffering continues...with Subaru freezing to death. The whole loop thing happened as expected AGAIN. Subaru's chemistry with Rem got to a heated angle. I mean, Subaru's rage...not that it's surprising considering all the dark experiences he's been through. The Rem and Subaru chemistry is quite something imo. They both went through sufferings so they can relate to each other in ways. That OST fit quite well for the episode~



when i watch these i hope it will be rem route
Aug 2, 2016 1:28 AM
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Holy cow, this show.
On one hand, I greatly appreciate the respite from the "everybody dies" gore-fest,
But on the other, the show still does not give any respite from the tugging of the heart-strings.
No idea how they're going to get out of this, but I suspect that having Rem firmly on Subaru's side is going to play a huge part. And surely much more to come from Puck. I am eager to learn more about that whole situation.

Holy cow.


You really dont know how Subaru is going to get out of this? All of the shows characters revolve around Subaru. The author has been spelling it out for Subaru using different characters throughout the entire arc. Re-watch episode 16. Every character he meets tells him exactly what he should've done to get what he wants. The author really lays it on thick.
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The shippers still going wild, I see
It's a lot more fun to join in... Kinda like this....

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when i watch these i hope it will be rem route

Rem is shit.
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Aug 2, 2016 1:41 AM

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Yarrowia said:
Prog_upworks13 said:
The real deal starting from here.

I'm sure I've seen this on every discussion thread since episode 3


Oh, probably I'm didn't see that.
Aug 2, 2016 2:05 AM

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I was surprised when I saw that this episode was only 74% loved, but I forgot that people are mad that their ship just sank lmao.

It's okay guys, this is what actually happened!

Haha, jk, but the author actually wrote a story of what happened if they did run away in something called Re:Zero IF for you Rem fans.

Anyways this scene/episode was great. I'm glad he told her straight up that he loved Emilia and didn't wait any longer to give her too much hope. But I still don't understand how the hell can he can reject her after everything she's has done for him and after she poured her heart out for 20+ min o__o

There's no way he can die now after such an important scene and character/relationship development with Rem. I'm really excited to see how Subaru plans to save everyone now that he's reset his mental state.
Aug 2, 2016 2:26 AM

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Lol at anyone who seriously though rem would be a serious romantic candidate. LMAO the salt train is here for its salt pick up for McDonalds
Aug 2, 2016 2:32 AM
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Don't want to interrupt you guys, but have you heard the breaking news?

Emilia is the best girl.

Deal with it.
Aug 2, 2016 2:44 AM

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Yes yes. Subaru x Emilia is best developed Ship in animu ever with 100% Chemistry and EMF is best Character developed in 2016. EMP 2gud, 2gud.
Aug 2, 2016 3:38 AM
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Nice seeing Subaru being able to actually laugh, even after all the shit he's been through.
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Yes yes. Subaru x Emilia is best developed Ship in animu ever with 100% Chemistry and EMF is best Character developed in 2016. EMP 2gud, 2gud.


Subaru, what are you doing here?!
Aug 2, 2016 4:09 AM

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im not into Waifu wars or shipping shit, but this episode prove that how awesome each character development, Rem maturity and Subaru's True feelings
but again this is such a nice picture from -IF chapters



https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_oxWJ1yWNv4S2ZDOWs2NHo1bUE/view




Can't wait for OVA
bajingloncatAug 2, 2016 5:07 AM
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Rem loves the Subaru who loves Emilia enough to save her, but doesn't love the Subaru that wants to runs away with Rem... aww what cruel triangle.
Dialogue's great, & giant Puck so fluffy.
Seeing Barusu flush out his character was quite something.
"How much do you know about the Subaru-kun that I see?" Flashback to what Emilia said about the ideal Emilia in Subaru's mind.
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Spoiler that wall of text, would ya?
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i am rem x subaru shipper . but Fu*k you rem x subaru supporter . i still dont know emilia past and reason . and you already bashing emilia and subaru like idiot
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@bajingloncat

Spoiler that wall of text, would ya?


Sorry i m new here, but ive put the spoiler, though i want to give more salt to mal users and hope for official alternative ending
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Without reading much of the thread, I know most of the posts will be hatred for Subaru. Mainly because he shot down Rem after the most heartfelt, sincere of confessions, which also served to save him from doooooom. And also because he himself confirmed he was everything people thought him to be in his almost suicidal, Evangelion-esque self-loathing / introspective rant.

BUT - and it's a big but - this is what the last 5-6 episodes, if not the whole series, have been building towards: the watershed moment where Subaru is forced to confront himself and accept that just because he's in another world he's not magically a better person. Little has been said of his former life, and many saw it as fake for a NEET to act like a social butterfly, but this confirmed his failings as a person run deeper than mere social unease, with his prior persona being a facade to protect himself. The depths his characterisation have reached make him one of the best developed protagonists I've seen in anime: a flawed person, but very much a person an not just the caricature I feared he would remain as.

The episode itself was beautiful. Something like 20 minutes dedicated to just one conversation better described as the ultimate therapy session. Subaru's dialogue reminded me of No Longer Human - especially the part about how he should be too ashamed to live - and Rem was simply angelic in how she dealt with and reacted to the situation. The 'what if' scenario was a little overwrought but it drove home just how much thought Rem had given to what she said before she turned Subaru down. And the direction was wonderful: small touches like following Rem's finger as she talked. And the voice acting / music...

It was a pity Subaru turned Rem down in a such a blunt way, but Rem knew what she was asking when she said she wanted Subaru not to give up: his entire motivation for being heroic is saving Emilia. He was honest, which was better than the alternative.
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There are not any person in this world that if they have lived the same as Subaru with Rem, especially what Subaru have lived (cuz the Back from deaths that made Rem remove some memories) can just say " I love Emilia" thus, without even doubt. I can't believe in his words. Subaru has to say what he really feels for Rem, if not he would be really cruel with Rem, and wouldn't be fair for her.
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