Resynd said: Wensbane said: I see this so much it actually makes me confused. "Please don't sexualize female characters!" - Yeah, but don't you watch a bunch of shows with half-naked men and even male homoeroticism? "That's different!" Just... why? I was going to bring up the same thing, I see that same convo so often.. always gives me a good laugh. I rarely see guys complain about male sexualization honestly though OP, the only time a guy would realistically complain is to troll or because a wild feminist appears. I don't care about male sexualization at all, do I watch yaoi? hell no, simply because I'm not attracted to guys. It's also the same reason I won't watch reverse harems or anime like Free!, I don't bash those type of anime though.. it's just I'm not interested in watching a full cast of guys do that kind of shit lol. Definitely, on MAL, complaining about male sexualization is uncommon, or it's just not very vocalized. (Probably one of the reasons why I shouldn't have made this thread on a MAL forum but). On other websites it is though, trust me. JustALEX said: Every fucking day there is a thread on AD about how ecchi is horrible and ruining anime... Trust me, almost no one cares about male sexualization. Everyone is fixated on female sexualization and wanting to lower it or get rid of it completely. I'm not going to lie that complaining about female sexualiation is more common than complaining about male sexualization. That's pretty much, and in all liberation, one of the points of this thread. Why are people condemning male sexualization yet not female sexualization? |
| i think anyone complaining about male sexualization does it ironically, as an answer to complains about female sexualization |
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| I've never seen anybody complain about "male sexualization" outside of the context of a counterargument to the claim that female characters are uniquely sexualized. |
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ixaa said: Nerlens said: Free is full of fanservice. Lots of people hate fanservice. I'm probably wrong, though. They hate fanservice in Free! but they love fanservice in the form of ecchi, amiright? Ecchi are often shows aimed at heterosexual male audience. Female characters are sexualized because they are suppose to be attractive for intended audience. Free! is aimed at either straight female or homosexual men with its kind of sexualization. It isn't labelled as ecchi because it is suppose to be different from those show which are and it would confuse the viewers. Then there are shows like yaoi or yuri, but honestly, those aren't really focused on oversexualized character of either gender, it simply specifies the type of homosexual romance. I suppose you can't really blame straight men for not being attracted to men? (also please note that straight men are little bit more homophobic than straight women) |
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| The amount and intensity of male sexualization isn't even comparable to the quantity and intensity of female sexualization in anime. On one hand, you have Free. On the other, you have Highschool DxD, Seikon no Qwaser and countless other examples. Those are worlds apart. If you claim that you're fine with the former but you're bothered by the latter, you're not being hypocritical. In general, if you decide that you're arbitrarily against the sexualization of one gender in media, but you like it when it's done to the opposite gender to the same degree, and you turn it into an internet crusade, you're dumb and hypocritical. That's obvious, there's not much to discuss. Of course, if you only like watching sexualized girls (or only boys), but you aren't obnoxious about it, that's completely fine. |
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MajorZero said: ixaa said: It's about why we are allowed to sexualize the opposite sex and then become angry and hypocritical when they sexualize us. This is a generalization. I don't think most people care about such a trivial thing. Sure, there are fringe minorities who may express these views (as well as people who can't stand sexualization in any form), but their numbers are too small for any serious discussion. A lot of people would love to be sexualized. It would mean someone's attracted to them. In my experience, a lot of women who complain about being sexualized are women flooded with suitors. Basically, they complain about guys wanting to have sex. There's also the factor that too many guys become horrible people after sex. I heard stories from friends and if I were a woman, I would be cautious too. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: Basically, they complain about guys wanting to have sex. There's also the factor that too many guys become horrible people after sex. I heard stories from friends and if I were a woman, I would be cautious too. Mating is one of the primal instincts, it's only natural for someone to seek sexual relationships. There're also some cases in which women are attracted specifically to so-called bad boys (probably because they think about them as of better, more masculine option). Anyway, if couple's relationship is serious I don't think anyone is going to rush things and everything will develop at an organic pace. |
| In general, you can say why most male anime fans prefer watching shoujo-ai Yuri and while most female prefer shonen-ai\yaoi. Their own gender doesn't interest them. They live with it all the time (themselves). Why it angries people? Good question. One would except that just like his\her favorable "fanservive" is shown, it's also the other way around. Of course, they don't have to watch it. But it can also be about the defination each one gives to sexualism. In my opinion, watching male swimmers without a shirt is not a fanservice, as swimmer really don't swim with shirts. One can enjoy swimming anime for it's topic (Swimming contests) and not "Oh, man without shirt!". I also don't consider one sex gender as sexualism. It happens. If you ask me what sexualism is, I'll say it's using someone from a specific gender to be who he\she is because of his\her gender. Of course, it would be weird to turn female characters to male and the opposite, so it sounds like it applies to all characters, but... let me explain. As I said, I think swimmers without a shirt is not sexualization. Putting random guys without a shirt is different thing. Do I mind it? Not that much, but it's like "Okay, why aren't you wearing a shirt?" Girls with nothing on their upper part of the body is sexualization. Girls with swimsuits, not really (unless there's no water around). |
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| The only fanservice I have seen for females is in Free! because they actually have a reason for it so its not even sexualized, you can't go swimming full clothed. On the opposite the fanservice for males makes no sense whatsoever, showing cleavage or showing a lot of skin is hardly anything sexual unless you are desperate for it, but what I mean is all the pointless panty shots and how in the middle of the fight clothes come off for no reason, you see the fanservice for males is unfounded I can see why are a lot of people don't want pointless sexualization of female characters. |
| I don't get why they watch current anime if they hate sexualization of characters. So many mediums out there. |
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| This wouldn't be related to the recent Professor Kukui phenomenon, would it? For the most part, I don't think that I or most men are bothered by male anime character sexualization. Thanks to market forces causing the imbalance others have noted (straight men are bigger consumers of anime discs, figures, and other merch than women are, so more gets made that caters to their tastes), it's easy enough to avoid watching the Haikyuus and Frees and Gravitations of the world. If women (and/or gay men) can enjoy that material and the associated fan art, fanfics, and such, great! More power to them. I only wish the feminists and "gender equality" warriors would extend us the same courtesy. Because as we've seen in the anime realm, and other phenomena like the Harry Potter fandom, "Twilight Moms," the curious case of The Wiggles, etc., the feminist rule seems to be, "If sexuality/sexualization in media is carried out by or appeals to women and/or the LGBT community, it's okay and must be protected in the name of liberation and free expression. But if it appeals to or is carried out by cishet dudes, then it must be censored and suppressed because it's creepy, misogynistic, and 'problematic'." The feminists and moralists have no problem with the aforementioned fandoms, but men who watch/play something on the level of Senran Kagura get excoriated. Heck, even men who watch a show about ponies that features precisely zero human children, sexualized or otherwise, get the "OMG PEDOPHILES!!!" treatment. EfiChan said: I don't know, some previous threads here show that there's considerably more female interest in shoujo-ai/yuri than the other side of the coin.In general, you can say why most male anime fans prefer watching shoujo-ai Yuri and while most female prefer shonen-ai\yaoi. Their own gender doesn't interest them. They live with it all the time (themselves). |
MajorZero said: TheBrainintheJar said: Basically, they complain about guys wanting to have sex. There's also the factor that too many guys become horrible people after sex. I heard stories from friends and if I were a woman, I would be cautious too. Mating is one of the primal instincts, it's only natural for someone to seek sexual relationships. There're also some cases in which women are attracted specifically to so-called bad boys (probably because they think about them as of better, more masculine option). Anyway, if couple's relationship is serious I don't think anyone is going to rush things and everything will develop at an organic pace. Any sexual relationship has potential to develop to serious abuse. Sexuality is fickle and as Ian Watkins and Bill Cosby displayed, attractive people have a lot of power - and the source of their power is us. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: Any sexual relationship has potential to develop to serious abuse. A lot of activities can lead to violence. Life can be and sometimes IS dangerous. It's up to individual to decide if they want to experience it fully or live in a cocoon till the very end. |
| Because people will feel uncomfortable seeing a person of the same gender as them all sexy-like. I'm bisexual so I appreciate both the male and female wholesome goodness. |
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| because people are stupid....i see nothing wrong with seeing a dudes body when we're constantly shown a girls boobs n bum |
| I love sexualization of both sexes equally. Yay for nudity! XD |
YayaChibi said: something from gakuen handsome's familyDianthars said: The only fanservice I have seen for females is in Free! because they actually have a reason for it so its not even sexualized, you can't go swimming full clothed. On the opposite the fanservice for males makes no sense whatsoever, showing cleavage or showing a lot of skin is hardly anything sexual unless you are desperate for it, but what I mean is all the pointless panty shots and how in the middle of the fight clothes come off for no reason, you see the fanservice for males is unfounded I can see why are a lot of people don't want pointless sexualization of female characters. There is an ecchi anime were it was manservice filled. I forgot the name though... http://myanimelist.net/anime/30531/Gakuen_Handsome_The_Animation |
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Zalis said: This wouldn't be related to the recent Professor Kukui phenomenon, would it? For the most part, I don't think that I or most men are bothered by male anime character sexualization. Thanks to market forces causing the imbalance others have noted (straight men are bigger consumers of anime discs, figures, and other merch than women are, so more gets made that caters to their tastes), it's easy enough to avoid watching the Haikyuus and Frees and Gravitations of the world. If women (and/or gay men) can enjoy that material and the associated fan art, fanfics, and such, great! More power to them. I only wish the feminists and "gender equality" warriors would extend us the same courtesy. Because as we've seen in the anime realm, and other phenomena like the Harry Potter fandom, "Twilight Moms," the curious case of The Wiggles, etc., the feminist rule seems to be, "If sexuality/sexualization in media is carried out by or appeals to women and/or the LGBT community, it's okay and must be protected in the name of liberation and free expression. But if it appeals to or is carried out by cishet dudes, then it must be censored and suppressed because it's creepy, misogynistic, and 'problematic'." The feminists and moralists have no problem with the aforementioned fandoms, but men who watch/play something on the level of Senran Kagura get excoriated. Heck, even men who watch a show about ponies that features precisely zero human children, sexualized or otherwise, get the "OMG PEDOPHILES!!!" treatment. EfiChan said: I don't know, some previous threads here show that there's considerably more female interest in shoujo-ai/yuri than the other side of the coin.In general, you can say why most male anime fans prefer watching shoujo-ai Yuri and while most female prefer shonen-ai\yaoi. Their own gender doesn't interest them. They live with it all the time (themselves). 'here's considerably more female interest in shoujo-ai/yuri than the other side of the coin' well i want to know that thread please and are you 100% sure they were all females |
Kagami said: I don't get why they watch current anime if they hate sexualization of characters. So many mediums out there. Because a lot of mediums out there, not just anime, have the same problem. It's more so common in the East than in the West might I add, but even the West sometimes has its issues of putting women in exposing outfits where its certainly not needed and not owning up to the men in the same way. I think sexualization is fine if it's not excessive. Both men and women can be sexy and have people know that. It's not a new concept. What is excessive though is people liking x gender sexualization and then turning their backs and scowling when somebody shows them y gender sexualization. |
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YayaChibi said: TheBrainintheJar said: We're uncomfortable with attractive people of our own sex. Attractive people generally makes us uncomfortable because they remind us of our insecurities - these are people whose love we really want. When they're the same sex as us, it's worse. They're competition. Sure, it might be 'just pictures' but if your boyfriend sees an attractive girl, you're not the only that attracts him. That means the hold you have on him isn't solid steel. Sexuality makes fools of us all. I am actually asexual and I like both male sexualization and female sexualization in anime/manga/LN/VN, etc In real life it is more annoying than attractive. Your asexuality explains this. Each sexual orientation has its own psychology. I'm not asexual so I don't know what exactly it's like, but it's safe to assume you don't have the need for sex and don't suffer from withdrawal and insecurities like we do. |
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| I often don't like chars that are too naked because it tends to hurt the story/plot and char development or the chars are not well-written cause they only exist to give pleasure to fanboys/fangirls. And since I am more hetero I tend to easier accept sexualized girls as long as there are still some other things that make the anime interesting. I just avoid anime like Free cause I am not homoesxual (maybe a bit bi-curious but then I prefer real guys not animated ones - I like the bishounen guys only in revers harem fantasy shoujo) - and cause the setting/story of Free did not seem that interesting too me. (I also don't like most other anime that are made by the same studio.) But I am not going around complaining. I just do not watch the anime. If girls really complain about female chars being sexualized and then drawing fanart of some guys from other anime calling them daddy at the same time ... yeah I could not understand that. But never noticed that. I know both type of people exist but I never had the time/interest to go to such lenghts as to observe if there are girls that do both at the same time. |
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MajorZero said: TheBrainintheJar said: Any sexual relationship has potential to develop to serious abuse. A lot of activities can lead to violence. Life can be and sometimes IS dangerous. It's up to individual to decide if they want to experience it fully or live in a cocoon till the very end. Yes, but some activities have a higher probability of slipping into this. Activities that have a strong psycho-active/hormonal influence on us are more dangerous, like drugs and sex. I'm not against those at all (In fact, I believe most drugs should be legalized). It's just a sexual relationship is more loaded than just friendship. The chances of it blowing up, and the explosion to be tough, are higher. |
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| I think the difference lies in how bothered someone of the same gender as the gender supposedly being sexualized can be. I am not a man, but as far as I am aware of (note; I really do not share a man's mind and therefore could be incorrect), when a man sees a muscular or attractive male (we can take Free! as an example here) in an anime, they are envious rather than disgusted. Many men would want to be that man, they would want to gain muscle and fair-looking bodies and they would like to impress the opposite gender this way. For women, we feel very uncomfortable watching characters like those that appear in Highschool Of The Dead. We do not desire to flaunt out our breasts in outfits that are three sizes too small. We are not envious of those characters, we are ashamed and realize that these characters exist solely to tend to a man's sexual needs. |
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| ill NEVER understand people who are bothered by the sexualiztion of fictional characters. i thought the point of fiction was to portray things we can't necessarily have irl? don't we all want to be attractive? aren't there certain looks that are considered most attractive? why shouldn't that show up in fiction? no one wants to feel old, we want to be young and attractive, i don't see why people complain about other ppls fantasies showing up in fiction i've NEVER been offended by a male character in an anime, idgaf if theyre super muscular, scronny as hell or tough guys, assholes or pussies. its not a fucking jab against me, its someone elses fantasy or idea. why should that bother me? if a girl is into skinny guys, she should be free to draw her men the way she pleases. why would that offend me? why should a girl be offended by a guy who draws his female characters with big boobs? as if girls don't know that many guys like big boobs im not against ANY form of sexualization in fiction, do what you want or what you think will get others attention no.... do what you want being offended by a cartoon especially only shows you're insecure |
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Mamster-P said: ill NEVER understand people who are bothered by the sexualiztion of fictional characters. i thought the point of fiction was to portray things we can't necessarily have irl? don't we all want to be attractive? aren't there certain looks that are considered most attractive? why shouldn't that show up in fiction? no one wants to feel old, we want to be young and attractive, i don't see why people complain about other ppls fantasies showing up in fiction i've NEVER been offended by a male character in an anime, idgaf if theyre super muscular, scronny as hell or tough guys, assholes or pussies. its not a fucking jab against me, its someone elses fantasy or idea. why should that bother me? if a girl is into skinny guys, she should be free to draw her men the way she pleases. why would that offend me? why should a girl be offended by a guy who draws his female characters with big boobs? as if girls don't know that many guys like big boobs im not against ANY form of sexualization in fiction, do what you want or what you think will get others attention no.... do what you want being offended by a cartoon especially only shows you're insecure We get it, you're offended by the fact that people criticize your favorite anime, just google "why is sexualization bad?" instead of embarrassing yourself by talking about stuff you don't understand. |
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| @Lollo36 its the general paranoia of sexual content that i have a problem with, you think i only care that people complain about it in anime? people whine about it everywhere and its just as stupid we've gotten to the point where everything is offense to people, everything is sexual harassment, everything is abuse and everything is a jab at someone else and its fucking insane this shit needs to stop, its not just about anime. people will stop bashing it in anime when they stop bashing it everywhere else don't tell me to look anything up, i see these arguments all the time, which is why im always here |
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Wensbane said: That's not really the problem. Whenever a new anime comes out we have to deal with the feminists crying that the heroine is showing too much skin. But then it turns out they actually watch Free! on the down low. Well, fuck me... I'm done. I'm a feminist and I don't watch Free!, but it's because none of the characters are of-age. If they were college boys, I'd be all for it. I, as an adult, feel very uncomfortable sexualizing anyone under 18. Kill La Kill is something I actually plan to watch eventually (I loved Panty and Stocking), it just bugs me because Ryuko is also underage (and appears to be very uncomfortable with being naked). If she were 18 and enjoyed wearing skimpy skirts and tops, if it were her choice, I'd be more fine with it. Zalis said: Because as we've seen in the anime realm, and other phenomena like the Harry Potter fandom, "Twilight Moms," the curious case of The Wiggles, etc., the feminist rule seems to be, "If sexuality/sexualization in media is carried out by or appeals to women and/or the LGBT community, it's okay and must be protected in the name of liberation and free expression. But if it appeals to or is carried out by cishet dudes, then it must be censored and suppressed because it's creepy, misogynistic, and 'problematic'." The feminists and moralists have no problem with the aforementioned fandoms, but men who watch/play something on the level of Senran Kagura get excoriated. Heck, even men who watch a show about ponies that features precisely zero human children, sexualized or otherwise, get the "OMG PEDOPHILES!!!" treatment. The problem with My Little Pony is that a lot of the humanized ecchi fanart is of underaged characters (like the Cutie Mark Crusaders, who are supposed to be elementary-school aged). I'm all for consensual sexualization of adult characters. I like yaoi, yuri, AND heterosexual ships. If the characters are cool with being sexualized, then it's fine, but if the character is, say, very chaste and modest and is forced into a sexual situation, then it's wrong. I'd also like to see more female characters with actual personalities that aren't just sexy 24/7 and exist only to be fanservice. Give them plotlines, faults, problems, make them well-rounded and human. |
OtakuDaikun said: I'm all for equal opportunity sexualization. KyoAni is great at sexing up both sexes and I love them for it. Do you like anime because the art style makes them look cool, pretyy or adorable? Then why not sexy? My question would be whether or not people want less attractive characters in anime. I don't think there's anything wrong with making anime characters look sexy. Some art styles itself are sexy. Though it's wrong when people say only female characters get to be sexy and not male characters, or vice versa. Mamster-P said: ill NEVER understand people who are bothered by the sexualiztion of fictional characters. i thought the point of fiction was to portray things we can't necessarily have irl? don't we all want to be attractive? aren't there certain looks that are considered most attractive? why shouldn't that show up in fiction? no one wants to feel old, we want to be young and attractive, i don't see why people complain about other ppls fantasies showing up in fiction i've NEVER been offended by a male character in an anime, idgaf if theyre super muscular, scronny as hell or tough guys, assholes or pussies. its not a fucking jab against me, its someone elses fantasy or idea. why should that bother me? if a girl is into skinny guys, she should be free to draw her men the way she pleases. why would that offend me? why should a girl be offended by a guy who draws his female characters with big boobs? as if girls don't know that many guys like big boobs im not against ANY form of sexualization in fiction, do what you want or what you think will get others attention no.... do what you want being offended by a cartoon especially only shows you're insecure I don't know if you're talking to the OP (me lol) or the general audience but I wish people would think more like you. At least, on this particular topic. I'm not against any sexualization and I honestly wish people who accept female sexualization also accept male sexualization and vice versa. |
| @ixaa well thank you just to the general mass im so tired of this paranoia we have of sexualization as if its not something we think about constantly as human beings its ridiculous how we let the bad apples control us.. the instant something bad happens we start pointing fingers and acting as if everyone is to blame. so we act as if perversion is bad you can be an open pervert, embrace your perversion wherever you want and still be a perfectly decent human being, its like we don't aknowledge this and we act as if idealization of a character is a jab at someone else, we act as if its only a pandering tool and its just so fucking dumb we act as if if theres going to be sexual content it might as well just be porn... that is retared, as if all ppl want to see is porn as if ppl don't like the occasion tease, as if ppl don't want to see their favorite characters being sexy ecchi has its niche.. the creators love to draw it and the fans love to consume it. and im super inclined to believe that more ppl like that than are willing to admit... but if ppl don't like it they simply can stop watching i don't give a damn if a person who wants to, makes a male character as ideal as they please, idgaf if the guy is taking his shirt of every episode, thats just simply not for me, but not for me doesnt mean WHINE WHINE WHINE, it means, its there for those who like it and ecchi is there for those who like it, if you don't, you can gtfo or deal with it female sexualization is not a jab at girls, its simply idealization... its meant to please those who like it |
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ixaa said: OtakuDaikun said: I'm all for equal opportunity sexualization. KyoAni is great at sexing up both sexes and I love them for it. Do you like anime because the art style makes them look cool, pretyy or adorable? Then why not sexy? My question would be whether or not people want less attractive characters in anime. I don't think there's anything wrong with making anime characters look sexy. Some art styles itself are sexy. Though it's wrong when people say only female characters get to be sexy and not male characters, or vice versa. I honestly don't mind sexualized guys so long as there are sexualized gals, too. You've got a point though, it's not like as many people are offended by Free or other male fanservice shows, at least not for the same reasons. It's basically the anime form of slut shaming. |
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Hoppy said: We don't hate male fanservice, men just hate the really loud and annoying fujoshi and want them to tone it down. This is a problem all in itself. I've talked to some fujioshis and they hate that they're never included in anything, so much that they've built a fanbase all to their own. Two of them told me that they always encounter people who love female sexualization but gag at the thought of male sexualization, therefore they became spiteful and annoying to piss them off. There's this page on Facebook called Anime Trending in which people vote on the top SHIPS of the week for seasonal anime and the current airing yaoi anime is on that list. People were complaining about it. There were 9 straight ships and 1 yaoi ship on the list, yet people were still talking shit even though the vast majority of the ships on there were heterosexual. This apparently pisses off fujioshis, making them even more annoying and loud. |
| it isnt hypocritical in the slightest actually; it's simply people's different preferences now if there were a group of people who tried to abolish male or female sexualization while still supporting the other, thatd be double standards what? fix what? what needs to be fixed? |
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Malarkey said: it isnt hypocritical in the slightest actually; it's simply people's different preferences now if there were a group of people who tried to abolish male or female sexualization while still supporting the other, thatd be double standards what? fix what? what needs to be fixed? ixaa said: fucjsidiasjasidjoijoij4oi3qj4idjasdjasdAight, you got me. I think this question would have been better presentable in a website where they try to promote equality but just end up being hypocrites (aka tumblr) instead of a forum on a website where people can be separated into like 5 categories (all which glamorize or tolerate sexualization) and are divided upon those |
One said: So you're basically trying to ask: "Why do straight people exist?" Let me answer that by quoting someone: "Oh look, 1 chocolate. I love chocolate. I wonder what could beat 1 chocolate." "Oh look!! 2 chocolates!" I'm straight and I hate yuri. You're oversimplifying. |
| The only hypocrites are feminist and SJWs. People who have preferences over one over the other are fine, but there are people even on this forum and on other social media that tries to tell others that sexualization of one gender is bad from an ethical or moral standpoint, while they have favourite shows that have sexualisation of the opposite gender. These are the type of people that the OP are referring to probably. |
ixaa said: Hoppy said: We don't hate male fanservice, men just hate the really loud and annoying fujoshi and want them to tone it down. This is a problem all in itself. I've talked to some fujioshis and they hate that they're never included in anything, so much that they've built a fanbase all to their own. Two of them told me that they always encounter people who love female sexualization but gag at the thought of male sexualization, therefore they became spiteful and annoying to piss them off. There's this page on Facebook called Anime Trending in which people vote on the top SHIPS of the week for seasonal anime and the current airing yaoi anime is on that list. People were complaining about it. There were 9 straight ships and 1 yaoi ship on the list, yet people were still talking shit even though the vast majority of the ships on there were heterosexual. This apparently pisses off fujioshis, making them even more annoying and loud. For like three years I was into yaoi (manga and some otome games, it all started with Togainu no Chi's PC game) and I had some friends who loved -or more like were obsessed- with yaoi (plus I use tumblr for a while now....), and one of the reasons that made me stop liking yaoi (apart from other reasons and that I simply got bored after a while) were those obnoxious yaoi fandoms....have you seen those incoherent shipping wars (mostly on tumblr) of shows that have not a hint of homosexuality in it but those shippers would start insulting, judging you or calling you homophobe JUST BECAUSE you do not believe in those supposed -non existen- ships, send hate and being all around just plain annoying and an actual embarassment for others In all honesty, with this kind of things constantly happening plus their constant nagging to the trolls like it's some kind of mission or competition just doesn't help their reputation at all PD: I still have one close friend who is into yaoi, and even if I try to let it pass there is one thing I absolutely hate and is that she will constantly hate a female character JUST because she is supposedly in the middle of her imaginary ship (even if, ironically, that girl and main guy are canon relatiobship......) I mean, if she doesn't like the chara for whatever reason (real reason) it's her problem, but I can't never talk seriously about any series with her because it always happen We stopped talking about anime althogether because if we continued I would had stop talking to her years ago because of that, it was imposible to have any serious discussion because of her obsession with yaoi (she almost made me hate KnB because of that, and considering it is my fav franchise that says a lot!) |
NemuriNezumiJun 6, 2016 7:14 PM
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| I don't care from a equality perspective or any bs to do with the term "objectification". Which actually just sounds like sex negative propaganda. I'm a fan of ecchi shows with lots of fanservice involving females, and i admit i'd hate to watch a show with as much fanservice as some shows have involving men instead. Why? Well because i'm not attracted to men so it's pointless to me. That said i wouldn't try to prevent such a show from being created, i just wouldn't watch it either. |
| This is actually a thing? I have no issues with the sexualization of female and male characters. Though I only watch ecchi shows because it appeals to me more. But maybe for others it's just preference and hypocrisy..more of the later though. |
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| Those types of people are closet homo's They sexualize and womanize females but when it comes to males they get all EWWWW NOO GROSS THAT IS A MALE, it's nothing but hypocrites really me personally i am straight as can be but i do not care if it happens to a male, girls and gay guys gotta get off too you know lol, i guess you could say i am open minded cause i just do not care since it doesn't affect me. |
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YayaChibi said: TheBrainintheJar said: Your asexuality explains this. Each sexual orientation has its own psychology. I'm not asexual so I don't know what exactly it's like, but it's safe to assume you don't have the need for sex and don't suffer from withdrawal and insecurities like we do. I'm 11 so sex is out of the question for me.... You're only 11? I don't want to come off patronizing, but I think people discover asexuality later. Maybe you're just a late bloomer? I kind of hope you are, though. Asexuality seems to be way more fun than heterosexuality. |
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