Divine Gate Episode 12 Discussion

Mar 25, 2016 5:04 PM

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people seem to forget that this is based off mobile jrpg game with same title.

CondemneDio said:

GoldenDevilGamer said:
Too bad comedy of the season is over...
I laughed too much at the second half XD

^^^

Also...
This is Santa Claus:

Not the bishounen piece of shit this show had.

they can alter characters as they wish and these are reference base NOT reality check

Mar 25, 2016 5:55 PM

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That shit was fucking awwwwwwful. Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwfulllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.

- Santa died the quickest, most anti-climatic death in history.
- Took 12 episodes to reach the gate. In 10 seconds they went from determined to go through the gate...to, uh, nevermind. Defeated the entire purpose of the fucking show.
- Arthur 1 hit destroys the tower and then mysteriously vanishes, also turns down Santa's offer to save him.
- Loki kept wanking off to his promise of a final great tragedy...that never happened.
- Robot doll thing that Aoto saved was never seen again.
- Akane's dad and all of those scientists were shown like they were part of something greater than the gate...never shown after more than once.
- Shakespeare and her god pen provided nothing and were never seen after that one instance.
- Gay gray haired guy became the Council's bitch for literally no reason, and the two girls in his group went off to become the queens/goddesses/leaders of their own cults of light and dark or some shit.
- Aoto's brother fights him, leaves, and is never seen again.
- All of the knights of round who were legitimately dead were somehow all brought back to life by an unexplained asspull.
- Post credits Akane was training with some character with glowing wings we've never ever seen before.
- Post credits guy was kneeling in a dark cave in front of some evil looking blonde girl we've never seen before.

What. In. The. Actual. Fuck.

I just don't get it. The show worked up to 12 episodes to pull a 180. Explained LITERALLY NOTHING, while adding a thousand more questions at the end. Introduced characters not yet seen. And it'll probably never get a season 2 so none of this will have even mattered.

3/10

Mar 25, 2016 6:30 PM

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And at last, this pretentious shit show is over. Finally. No more. 3/10. I rarely give such a low score, but you done it Divine Gate. A job fucking well done.

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Mar 25, 2016 7:14 PM

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Divine gate was a hilariously bad show. Only reason I kept up with it was because it was so funny to see go worse and worse each episode just like comet lucifer. Glad it's over. There's a s2? Why would they bother? I'm not going to.

Mar 25, 2016 8:19 PM

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Well there you have it easily the worst show this season started off kinda bad and some how managed to get worst till the very end good luck actually trying to understand what that the fuck this show was about because it seems like even the writers didn't know.

only good thing i can say about this was it's impressive amount of VAs , had a interesting art style and the OP was decent

but agian fuck this show 4/10 i fear the day when something like this can get a sequel.

Mar 25, 2016 9:05 PM

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so many still unexplained details regarding this series, and that ending, there is a possibility of season 2, i didn't enjoy the ending though
5/10

Mar 25, 2016 9:40 PM

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I got so lost after they teamed up with Arthur to find the gate or whatever... Prior to that, I was actually enjoying everything, pacing was nice too, but then it just crashed. Introduced a ton of characters that got "killed" in such a way that viewers were suppose to care about them and then tried to cram stuff that was happening with Oz, Arthur and stuff that the kids were going through all in a few episodes.

I'm not kidding when I say that the only reason I came back to watch this every week was to listen to the awesome opening.

Mar 25, 2016 10:20 PM

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The ending was quite weird!

Mar 25, 2016 10:34 PM

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Holy this was worse than Chaos Dragon, I can't believe it.

Until now Divine Gate is one of the worst shows of 2016, it only loses to Koukaku no Pandora because we really don't need loli robotic girls fingering each other right?

Nothing makes sense on this show, everything is a mess from the beginning to the ending, every single character is shallow/empty/inconsistent and there isn't a single redeeming quality in this show besides the joke which it is.

There's a lot of plot holes and unexplained events:

- Arthur 'somehow' knew he would be betrayed by Loki
- The tower gets up out of nowhere, Arthur destroys the freaking tower with 1 hit and disappears with Loki
- Aoto the edgylord wanted to find his murderer little tramp twin brother and when he find his brother he acts incoherent and tries to kill him.
- Akane can't even recognize his own father, lmao
- Yukari was turned into the princess of Hellsia (???) out of nowhere
- Hikari also was turned into the princess of Celestia out of nowhere
- Santa was somehow powerful, got 1 hitted by Arthur and his 'help' was denied.
- Undine the cannon fodder queen somehow survived
- Where's the rest of the beast people?
- The colors sucks, rainbows everywhere
- The CG was worse than the CGs made for consoles from 18 years ago
- The scenario most of time is empty to non-existentl
- All the knights of round died to the scandinavian gods and somehow got resurrected in the last episode, how the fuck they did it?
- Who the hell is Ginji? I forgot because he was one of the 3rd class characters of this show
- Why they tried to be deep?
- There is no plot at all besides: ''let's look for the gate'' and ''oh we know where the gate is but it's dangerous!''
- Wtf I just watched?

I can't wait for another season so I can laugh my ass out of it like I did with this one.

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Mar 25, 2016 10:56 PM

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So the people that died a few episodes ago are alive. Lol did anyone care?
I feel like I wasted my time watching this... such a waste of a good story ;(

Mar 25, 2016 11:46 PM

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Gratz... I gave you 1/10

Mar 26, 2016 12:14 AM

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What was that after ED song??? Some kind of Queen??

Mar 26, 2016 12:42 AM

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This was for me one of the best series this season :).

Mar 26, 2016 12:45 AM

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Kuro_Mizuki said:
people seem to forget that this is based off mobile jrpg game with same title.

CondemneDio said:

^^^

Also...
This is Santa Claus:

Not the bishounen piece of shit this show had.

they can alter characters as they wish and these are reference base NOT reality check

Sure, they have the freedom to do that. If they're going to do it in the first place, they should take care to make the characters and the story interesting, and not some archetypical, generic bullshit.

Mar 26, 2016 12:59 AM

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CondemneDio said:

Kuro_Mizuki said:
people seem to forget that this is based off mobile jrpg game with same title.

they can alter characters as they wish and these are reference base NOT reality check

Sure, they have the freedom to do that. If they're going to do it in the first place, they should take care to make the characters and the story interesting, and not some archetypical, generic bullshit.

if you wanna complain about it, call them or write a letter of complaint about "archetypical" or "generic". these things can't be avoided

Mar 26, 2016 1:00 AM

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Kuro_Mizuki said:

CondemneDio said:

Sure, they have the freedom to do that. If they're going to do it in the first place, they should take care to make the characters and the story interesting, and not some archetypical, generic bullshit.

if you wanna complain about it, call them or write a letter of complaint about "archetypical" or "generic". these things can't be avoided

These things can be easily avoided, if you have competent people making the show.

Mar 26, 2016 1:04 AM

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CondemneDio said:

Kuro_Mizuki said:

if you wanna complain about it, call them or write a letter of complaint about "archetypical" or "generic". these things can't be avoided

These things can be easily avoided, if you have competent people making the show.

best thing is to go to Japan or email them. that is all
as for me well it's up to them no complains just moving on, cuz they're easy to forget.

Mar 26, 2016 1:07 AM

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Kuro_Mizuki said:

as for me well it's up to them no complains just moving on, cuz they're easy to forget.

That's something we can agree on.

Mar 26, 2016 1:14 AM

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if anyone played this game
I'm sure your gonna enjoy the new collaboration event that's gonna be held
Divine Gate x Kekkai Sensen

Mar 26, 2016 1:30 AM

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i wonder why the anime is getting too much hate. personally, i enjoyed it a lot. it had a lot of deep thought to it and a great concept. i agree with you that some stuff didn't make sense especially in the last episode but it doesn't make the anime bad. with that last episode, though, i expect a second season for it.

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Mar 26, 2016 3:07 AM

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Kuro_Mizuki said:
if anyone played this game
I'm sure your gonna enjoy the new collaboration event that's gonna be held
Divine Gate x Kekkai Sensen

Wait a second, are you defending this anime because its based on a game? And because of that, Divine Gate gets a pass? Or did i understood you wrong?
Besides whats that Divine Gate X Kekkai Sensen thing about?

Mar 26, 2016 3:23 AM

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MahadoKusanagi said:

Kuro_Mizuki said:
if anyone played this game
I'm sure your gonna enjoy the new collaboration event that's gonna be held
Divine Gate x Kekkai Sensen

Wait a second, are you defending this anime because its based on a game? And because of that, Divine Gate gets a pass? Or did i understood you wrong?
Besides whats that Divine Gate X Kekkai Sensen thing about?

nope I'm defending the game NOT the Anime.the game has events and including character quest.
it's impossible for an anime adaptation to have all the story of each character, try counting how many they are.

Divine x Kekkai Sensen is a collaboration events held in game. here's a link of the list of Collaborators.
Divine Gate and its Collaborators

Edit: I'm also asking if there's anyone who had played the game

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Mar 26, 2016 3:39 AM

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Kuro_Mizuki said:

MahadoKusanagi said:

Wait a second, are you defending this anime because its based on a game? And because of that, Divine Gate gets a pass? Or did i understood you wrong?
Besides whats that Divine Gate X Kekkai Sensen thing about?

nope I'm defending the game NOT the Anime.the game has events and including character quest.
it's impossible for an anime adaptation to have all the story of each character, try counting how many they are.

Divine x Kekkai Sensen is a collaboration events held in game. here's a link of the list of Collaborators.
Divine Gate and its Collaborators

I was a bit confused since (as far as i saw) nobody else mentioned the game besides you. So, there is actually no reason to defend the game at all, is there?
Since the Anime still has to make sense on its own, correct? There are plenty of Anime based on Games which did a good job even to newcomers, Divine Gate didnt do that.

Ok, collaboration. I think i get it now. Cool.

Mar 26, 2016 4:10 AM

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MahadoKusanagi said:

Kuro_Mizuki said:

nope I'm defending the game NOT the Anime.the game has events and including character quest.
it's impossible for an anime adaptation to have all the story of each character, try counting how many they are.

Divine x Kekkai Sensen is a collaboration events held in game. here's a link of the list of Collaborators.
Divine Gate and its Collaborators

I was a bit confused since (as far as i saw) nobody else mentioned the game besides you. So, there is actually no reason to defend the game at all, is there?
Since the Anime still has to make sense on its own, correct? There are plenty of Anime based on Games which did a good job even to newcomers, Divine Gate didnt do that.

Ok, collaboration. I think i get it now. Cool.

at first I was defending but the fact is from what I see I guess noone played it.
when it's confusing then it really is. I myself just had to turn off my brain and stop thinking about it.
discussions about conscious and unconscious mind are like Psychology subject.

for now I'm all out of words to explain this series. probably they're trying to follow the Evangalion'ish mind-f**** set up in some way.

Mar 26, 2016 4:14 AM

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Ugh, it's finally over.
This anime had so much potential but I feel like they completely, absolutely botched it, What even was the plot? Everything was pointless. They went to the divine gate and did absolutely nothing! They whined half the time in the anime.
The only thing I liked was the OP. Fullstop. Nothing else.
Sure the divine Gate interested me but I wasn't excited by it in any way.
I probably watched this just for the opening...

Mar 26, 2016 4:22 AM

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Finally this terrible anime is over

Mar 26, 2016 4:39 AM

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Kuro_Mizuki said:

MahadoKusanagi said:

I was a bit confused since (as far as i saw) nobody else mentioned the game besides you. So, there is actually no reason to defend the game at all, is there?
Since the Anime still has to make sense on its own, correct? There are plenty of Anime based on Games which did a good job even to newcomers, Divine Gate didnt do that.

Ok, collaboration. I think i get it now. Cool.

at first I was defending but the fact is from what I see I guess noone played it.
when it's confusing then it really is. I myself just had to turn off my brain and stop thinking about it.
discussions about conscious and unconscious mind are like Psychology subject.

for now I'm all out of words to explain this series. probably they're trying to follow the Evangalion'ish mind-f**** set up in some way.

At least i never played it. The thing is, it can be confusing, but it sill has to make sense. Divine Gate, sadly, didnt do that. Maybe it makes sense for someone who played the game (or maybe not, you seemed to have played it and it doesnt seem to make sense even for you), but for most of us, it didnt.
Actually, the discussion about conscious and unconscious can be an interesting one, but it seems to me that the producers trapped themselves in a subject they dont really fully understand but still used it.
The idea with Aoto and the boy, i thought that was an interesting one since Aoto is rather an introvert but the kid is rather an extrovert representing the actual feelings of Aoto. Something like a double-personality thing...............i cant explain it well.
But the boy was just the "key" for the gate. That alone raises to me more unwanted questions and is even more disapointing as a conclusion than Aoto having more like a double-personality and fighting it as one conclusion.

Some wish for Season 2.................but i dont think this would be a solution. Since i never saw Evangelion, i cant compare it, but it seems to me that the producers didnt fully understand what they were doing and have done it just for the sake of it, therefore i dont believe that they could answer anything about S1 in S2. As they have done here, they would probably do everything worse with more convenience that doesnt make sense.

Mar 26, 2016 4:48 AM

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MahadoKusanagi said:

Kuro_Mizuki said:

at first I was defending but the fact is from what I see I guess noone played it.
when it's confusing then it really is. I myself just had to turn off my brain and stop thinking about it.
discussions about conscious and unconscious mind are like Psychology subject.

for now I'm all out of words to explain this series. probably they're trying to follow the Evangalion'ish mind-f**** set up in some way.

At least i never played it. The thing is, it can be confusing, but it sill has to make sense. Divine Gate, sadly, didnt do that. Maybe it makes sense for someone who played the game (or maybe not, you seemed to have played it and it doesnt seem to make sense even for you), but for most of us, it didnt.
Actually, the discussion about conscious and unconscious can be an interesting one, but it seems to me that the producers trapped themselves in a subject they dont really fully understand but still used it.
The idea with Aoto and the boy, i thought that was an interesting one since Aoto is rather an introvert but the kid is rather an extrovert representing the actual feelings of Aoto. Something like a double-personality thing...............i cant explain it well.
But the boy was just the "key" for the gate. That alone raises to me more unwanted questions and is even more disapointing as a conclusion than Aoto having more like a double-personality and fighting it as one conclusion.

Some wish for Season 2.................but i dont think this would be a solution. Since i never saw Evangelion, i cant compare it, but it seems to me that the producers didnt fully understand what they were doing and have done it just for the sake of it, therefore i dont believe that they could answer anything about S1 in S2. As they have done here, they would probably do everything worse with more convenience that doesnt make sense.

here's the bad news
the game itself is ONLY available in Japan. there are some players who had downloaded it via Google JP, others probably emulated the game. it's gonna be really hard to find the answer, DG wiki doesn't even had the answers to it aswell.

Mar 26, 2016 4:53 AM

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Well that was something.

This should have just stuck to focusing on Aoto.

Mar 26, 2016 4:59 AM

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Was honestly trying to make sense of the pieces, rereading subs connecting them. This ep had more developed thoughts & ideas, each character's motives, better than the angst poetry in earliest episodes. BUT none of these quite connect.
Ok, Aoto's giving up everything, then choose what he'll do rather than wish, and Midori about running not as god, relate to their backstories, good.
Aurthur being strong cuz he has something dear (to protect?), but Aoto says its his alter ego. ??? So Aurthur true self/heart is in whiteland (plus that cross which he rejected), his puppet alter ego rules the tower...
What was Santa trying? He ded? Aurthur his childhood best friend, didn't even care.

I get Loki wanted a counciless world by remake. And the 3 kids foiled his plan by not entering the Gate. Wasn't clear, but yes kids win, Loki lost.
Ginji, dog of Council & ruler of earth(?), explained the Gate remake thing. And Council is like we protect the Matrix so everyone keeps an illusion of order. He sounds convincing but that world sucks anyways.

Random knights revived at last ep, no one cares, but the father & Dorothy stay ded to keep plot. They so hinting at S2, new characters appear. I guess intended audience was the gamers who know the world/plot.

OP was awesome, some osts nice. Never boring even though senselessness piled up. Fight animation & character designs were enjoyable. For me it can't be worse than ShoujoMezasu which is literally wasteland, but rating in relation to Pandora, chaos dragon, pso2 etc. Just realized how 'good' pso2 is as a game adaptation.

Mar 26, 2016 5:02 AM

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Kuro_Mizuki said:

MahadoKusanagi said:

At least i never played it. The thing is, it can be confusing, but it sill has to make sense. Divine Gate, sadly, didnt do that. Maybe it makes sense for someone who played the game (or maybe not, you seemed to have played it and it doesnt seem to make sense even for you), but for most of us, it didnt.
Actually, the discussion about conscious and unconscious can be an interesting one, but it seems to me that the producers trapped themselves in a subject they dont really fully understand but still used it.
The idea with Aoto and the boy, i thought that was an interesting one since Aoto is rather an introvert but the kid is rather an extrovert representing the actual feelings of Aoto. Something like a double-personality thing...............i cant explain it well.
But the boy was just the "key" for the gate. That alone raises to me more unwanted questions and is even more disapointing as a conclusion than Aoto having more like a double-personality and fighting it as one conclusion.

Some wish for Season 2.................but i dont think this would be a solution. Since i never saw Evangelion, i cant compare it, but it seems to me that the producers didnt fully understand what they were doing and have done it just for the sake of it, therefore i dont believe that they could answer anything about S1 in S2. As they have done here, they would probably do everything worse with more convenience that doesnt make sense.

here's the bad news
the game itself is ONLY available in Japan. there are some players who had downloaded it via Google JP, others probably emulated the game. it's gonna be really hard to find the answer, DG wiki doesn't even had the answers to it aswell.

As far as i understand, thats a card-like game, right?. So.............i suppose there isnt any story at all?

Mar 26, 2016 5:12 AM

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