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Mar 2, 2016 8:23 PM
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Two minutes is a fairly big issue because it's only going to keep growing. But overall wasn't as extreme as I was expecting it to be.

Mika really needs to be more trusting to everyone. It's kind of annoying now.

Shinoa trolling Mitsuba is as hilarious as ever LOL

Looks like we got a rescue mission. Hopefully Krul is still okay.
Mar 3, 2016 12:14 AM
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Mika really needs to be more trusting to everyone. It's kind of annoying now.


I actually found Mika's distrust of the squad to be expected and realistic. Shinoa's squad was part of the Japanese Imperial Demon Army. This is the same army that is doing human experimentation and messing with the dangerous seraphs to the point where the seraphs could wipe out humanity. Mika saw first hand the human experimentations and the Japanese Imperial Demon Army slaughtering other humans. For all Mika knows, Shinoa's squad could be just like Kureto and could be brainwashing Yuu. He just saw Yuu's close "family" member Guren try to kill Yuu, and Yuu still trusts Guren. From Mika's perspective, it looks like Guren, and potentially Shinoa's squad, brainwashed Yuu into convincing him that they are "family" when they are actually planning on more experimentation and weaponizimg Yuu.

Mika's known about the terrible things humans have done for four years. The seraphs want to smite humans for a reason. Mika doesn't necessarily hate all humans nor has he given up on humanity, but he just doesn't know which humans he can trust. As the readers, we know Mika should trust Shinoa's squad, but Mika doesn't know what we know.

To be honest, I find Yuu's unrelenting trust in Guren to be more annoying than Mika's distrust of Shinoa's squad. Considering that Yuu has just seen Guren attack him, you'd think Yuu would at least question just a little bit about whether or not he can trust Guren. Although, Yuu's trust in Guren is understandable as well since he was a father-figure for Yuu for four years.
Mar 3, 2016 10:19 AM
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Yeah, a lot of people seem incapable of viewing things from others' point of view. I'm guessing that you would trust humans easily, after being experimented on for several years, seeing with your own eyes the horror that the humans are capable of and seeing your family being treated like guinea pigs.
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Mar 3, 2016 1:07 PM
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Because Yuu-chan is simply so kind and maybe also a bit naive, he wants everyone to be one big, happy family. :D Which is actually fine with me, if there is any possibility of turning Mika back to human, I'd gladly accept it. Mika isn't the only one suffering, there are others too.

Portraying characters ambiguously is rather interesting, Kagami always kinda surprises us with something refreshing. XD We will see how the story goes from here on; hopefully something more interesting happens in the future. I am very sceptic of everyone - whom to even trust? Human experimentation is terrible, of course (much to Yuu-chan agreeing as long as they help Mika, if I recall?), but not like vampires are doing any noble job (for now). Both are greatest enemies to each other, trying to survive.
Mar 3, 2016 5:28 PM
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I need a translation. Can anyone help me?
Mar 4, 2016 8:28 AM
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I hope they can figure out Yuu's demon problem soon, as much as I love demon!Yuu I want him to stay human (or become a vampire). I'm so glad Mika still distrusts the Shinoa squad, because of what he's been through it would be pretty sudden for him to start liking them, even though it's been 3 months.

(The best part of this chapter's release was the new official art though)
Mar 5, 2016 9:34 AM
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So was Yuu only a demon for a few minutes or for 3 hours? Shinoa kind of threw me for a loop when she started talking

I think Mika will slowly come to trust Shinoa's squad but I think the blow from Guren a couple of chapters back has Mika moving one step forwards and two steps back. His prejudice is warranted though.

So Crowley and Ferid after coming after Yuu and Mika now! Looks like they want the seraphs of the end on their side.
Mar 5, 2016 9:12 PM
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Whew I am glad the team is being smart and realized the possibility that Yoichi and Kimizuki might also be seraphs (based on the time when Mitsu and Shinoa couldn't get information about Yuu and those two).
It was really heartwarming to see Narumi also determined to save Yuu because of what happened to his own squad. I am glad that no one wants to try to trust and go back to the Demon Army- that shows a lot of sense and wisdom here...
Narumi really matured a lot- he's willing to team up with vampires if it means to keep the meaning of the memory of his squad's death alive.
Mika's got a point- Kimizuki is willing to betray just to save his sister...
That rescue mission for Krul is probably never going to happen with Ferid and Crowley already closing in... I wonder how they got the information?
Mar 6, 2016 5:43 PM
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Rescue Krul Tepes arc Bois

"...ahh, you're really wonderful. I like you. Oh, of course Mari-san is the first okay? I won't give up on Mari-san being my legal wife."
Mar 7, 2016 6:58 AM
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I really liked this chapter, even if it was mainly just talking, it's nice to see where everyone's heads are at after all the craziness from the previous arc ending a few chapters ago. These characters grow on me all the time and I like how they play off each other and interact. They feel really solid and distinctive, at least to me.

Also, I'm loving that fancy car that Ferid and Crowley were driving around in lmao.
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Sounds like some strange alliances are about to be formed. Recusing Krul isn't going to be easy.

Yeah, that car driving scene with Ferid and Crowley is priceless. I mean, two vampire dudes riding on the road L
Mar 7, 2016 6:27 PM

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Sounds like some strange alliances are about to be formed. Recusing Krul isn't going to be easy.

Yeah, that car driving scene with Ferid and Crowley is priceless. I mean, two vampire dudes riding on the road L


On the highway to hell!

no? ok, I'll see myself out
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Mar 8, 2016 2:33 AM

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OMFG Krul is going to get rescued i can't believe it T_T praised be our Lord Kagami
Mar 8, 2016 3:58 AM

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Shinoa trolling is back =/ Now all to save loli.
Even more interesting what Ferid plans are after what he said last chapter.
Mar 8, 2016 6:11 AM

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Loved how Shinoa trolled Mitsuba, best girl being the best girl lol.
Mar 8, 2016 8:02 AM

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Is it me or Yuu becomes more and more drawn attractively by each chapter woah.
Mika is still beautiful and stubborn af tho.

Ahh I'm glad they're rescuing mama Krul,I'm so thirsty for Krul-Yuu interation.

OK BUT Ferid and Crowley in a convertible
Mar 8, 2016 8:25 AM

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So Ferid-kun is coming! Can't wait for the next chapter

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Ferid came, say he want to be friend with two of his favourite supplement drink bottle, and they trots to take Krul out of the closet where Ferid holds the key.
...that's not going to happen isn't it ? ^^;;;

I wondered about how the demon transformation process is though. Yuu seems to become his own demon. So what benefit would it bring Ashuramaru who is probably still stuck inside the sword. Other than Yuu not dead because of the Seraph.
Demon Mahiru also seems to be herself. Shinoa doesn't refer to her as if she's taken over by existing demon but her own.
Mar 9, 2016 11:26 AM

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Ferid in the end, dis gon b gud! But seriously, I wonder how the hell him and the other dude managed to escape, and what happened with Krul.
Mar 10, 2016 12:39 AM

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If they succeeded in rescuing Krul and she joins their party I'm gonna go CRAZYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY


Me too, she's one of the best characters for me XD
Mar 11, 2016 12:09 PM

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Skullcrusher said:
Dreaming_Klutz said:
If they succeeded in rescuing Krul and she joins their party I'm gonna go CRAZYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY


Me too, she's one of the best characters for me XD


Yea we all love her but ferid and crowley are coming to yuu and the team now. Mika knows that they are the ones responsible for krul's current situation, so i don't think rescuing/partnering with krul will go so smoothly.....not with ferid and crowley as "comrades" incoming.
Mar 13, 2016 4:41 PM

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Better run guys .. :D
Mar 15, 2016 12:43 AM

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Great chapter!
I don't know if they would be able to save Krul but if they have a chance It won't be easy, Ferid and Crowley are coming...

Lol at Shinoa trolling Mitsuba :P
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Mar 15, 2016 6:33 PM
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I dont know why but Ferid in the car was a very funny sight lmao

damn i really like this trashy bastard
Mar 16, 2016 7:59 PM

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I truly hope Krul joins the party, I miss her already.

Lmao at Ferid and Crowley in that cabrio - too fabulous.
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So was Yuu only a demon for a few minutes or for 3 hours? Shinoa kind of threw me for a loop when she started talking

I think Mika will slowly come to trust Shinoa's squad but I think the blow from Guren a couple of chapters back has Mika moving one step forwards and two steps back. His prejudice is warranted though.

So Crowley and Ferid after coming after Yuu and Mika now! Looks like they want the seraphs of the end on their side.


his demon mode activation time increases 2 minutes / day , currently after three months = 2 minutes multiply by 90 days , so it is 180 minutes(3 hours) at current time
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RainyDayLover said:
So was Yuu only a demon for a few minutes or for 3 hours? Shinoa kind of threw me for a loop when she started talking

I think Mika will slowly come to trust Shinoa's squad but I think the blow from Guren a couple of chapters back has Mika moving one step forwards and two steps back. His prejudice is warranted though.

So Crowley and Ferid after coming after Yuu and Mika now! Looks like they want the seraphs of the end on their side.


his demon mode activation time increases 2 minutes / day , currently after three months = 2 minutes multiply by 90 days , so it is 180 minutes(3 hours) at current time


Thanks for clarifying that :)
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Can they be happy and relaxed for once?
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Wow, I actually enjoyed this chapter! It's nice to see some wisdom placed in the team. Saving Krul could really be the best route... But what will Ferid and Crowley do? (LOL, seeing them in that convertible made me laugh.)
It's nice that some lighthearted moments were placed in this chapter. Omg xD when Shinoa teased Mitsu - I swear, everyone in that group is a virgin. :P It’s also great that even though they’re no longer part of the Japanese Imperial Demon Army, they use their skills to kill monsters and protect the villagers.
I really liked seeing Narumi's growth. :) It's good that he wants to do something meaningful, so that his friends' deaths would mean something.
This group's got a number of issues to handle - Yu's demon possession getting longer by the day, saving Mirari, saving Guren (but how? Mahiru is controlling him)...and how to rescue the Vampire Queen. I feel like things are finally about to begin.

Btw, what happened to Shinya? :O

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G_Spark233 said:

Mika really needs to be more trusting to everyone. It's kind of annoying now.


I actually found Mika's distrust of the squad to be expected and realistic. Shinoa's squad was part of the Japanese Imperial Demon Army. This is the same army that is doing human experimentation and messing with the dangerous seraphs to the point where the seraphs could wipe out humanity. Mika saw first hand the human experimentations and the Japanese Imperial Demon Army slaughtering other humans. For all Mika knows, Shinoa's squad could be just like Kureto and could be brainwashing Yuu. He just saw Yuu's close "family" member Guren try to kill Yuu, and Yuu still trusts Guren. From Mika's perspective, it looks like Guren, and potentially Shinoa's squad, brainwashed Yuu into convincing him that they are "family" when they are actually planning on more experimentation and weaponizimg Yuu.

Mika's known about the terrible things humans have done for four years. The seraphs want to smite humans for a reason. Mika doesn't necessarily hate all humans nor has he given up on humanity, but he just doesn't know which humans he can trust. As the readers, we know Mika should trust Shinoa's squad, but Mika doesn't know what we know.

To be honest, I find Yuu's unrelenting trust in Guren to be more annoying than Mika's distrust of Shinoa's squad. Considering that Yuu has just seen Guren attack him, you'd think Yuu would at least question just a little bit about whether or not he can trust Guren. Although, Yuu's trust in Guren is understandable as well since he was a father-figure for Yuu for four years.


^ You said it well! I also find Mika's distrust for Yu's friends to be very realistic. Just because they gave him blood, it doesn't mean he's obligated to trust them, and treat them as his friends. It would definitely take time for him to warm up and trust everyone. I think when Mika asked Yu, if being 'friends' with them could be part of human experimentation...Yu did not have a definite answer. And I found Mika's skepticism here to be very realistic. Humans are known to be more cruel and calculative than humans, after all. Like you said, seeing Guren harm Yu didn't convince Mika to trust humans more either - even though Mahiru is possessing our poor lt. colonel, no one in the group knows the full story, such as whether Guren consented to Mahiru controlling him and how that came to be... I think when Kimizuki said he's willing to betray everyone, if that's what it takes to save Mirai, didn't encourage Mika to trust them either.

I’m slightly bothered by Yu’s instant trust in his ‘family’ as well. I find that Yu’s desire to save his family can really place others in danger. Earlier, Guren could have killed Yu, if not for Mika’s intervention. But despite that, Yu shouted, “Guren!! What the heck has gotten into you?!”, got stabbed by our possessed lt. colonel, and then the demon possession took place. So, Yu really didn’t stop to analyze the situation first, or at least recognize that Guren was too dangerous to approach. I know that Yu trusts Guren, based on the four years they spent together, but I find his impulsive behaviour irrational… Yu definitely needs to grow up or else he could put himself and others in countless trouble in the future.
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Really enjoyed this chapter, finally got back my feel for this story after the anime.


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You think since Shinoa had everyone to pitch in for blood work Mika would FINALLY trust them. But no he's still being stubborn.


Also Ferid's last words scare me...

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