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| This was such a beautiful episode till Ginti decided to be a cunt ;_; But was that really Light from Death Note??? lmao |
Kyon90 said: Ginti, fuck you. |
Light's appearance got me lol'ing. |
| Frankly I think Ginti was right in sending Mayu and Harada into the void, in fact it was a smart judgement. Mayu did not have anything against Harada so you couldn't turn her against him(Unlike Harada who pushed Mayu into spikes). Instead, he presented her with the opportunity to save Harada but by sacrificing someone else(Sending the other guy to the void). Sending someone to the void to save someone else is akin to killing someone(which is wrong), therefore, Ginti could effectively judge her. (Mayu should've known better anyways. If she's not being judged, why would she be here anyways?) Yeah and the other guy Mayu sent to the void indeed did look like Light Yagami. |
| “Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's first law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth. But the world isn't perfect, and the law is incomplete..." -Alphonse Elric "Then and now, what I protect has never changed!" -Sakata Gintoki I'll take anything like The Pet Girl of Sakurasou. Anything as good as that. |
Akarin said: Ku ku ku...Just as planned. Light from Death Note WTF? :D |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
asukaori said: Light's appearance got me lol'ing. Is that him ?! |
tv14 said: asukaori said: Light's appearance got me lol'ing. Is that him ?! It looks like him and both animes are from Madhouse so... |
Gov said: Ginti made the right decision. People questioning his decision are idiots. Harada had all the makings of being a void placement. Selfish, shallow, a serial cheater and caused one of his lovers to commit suicide. He deserved void without a shadow of a doubt. He was on the fence with Mayu. So what did he do? He tested her by asking her to choose Harada and other guy to go to void. Mayu didn't even have the audacity to ask who the other guy was or what he did in his life but instead blindly choose Harada. Ginti gave her another chance by asking her what her life would be without Harada and she said "nothing". Totally meaningless. Meaning that if she was to go reincarnation, her life would be meaningless unless she found someone to look up.Void was her destination. Ginti was on point and the people crying foul, need to grow the fuck up. Lol, I came into this comment section pissed off at Ginti. Then I read this and thought you were an unempathetic @$$hole. sorry 'bout that. But your reasoning was poorly worded. Then i read the rest of this thread, and then that got cleared up. He made the right decision even though I don't think she deserved the void as much as Harada. My religion believes in circles of hell, and she'd be on one of the first. Limbo probably.( Ginti's still a dick though >_>). I would also like to see an episode with Nona as an arbiter. A quick fan theory came to me that maybe Death Note users became arbiters, but then i remembered that Arbiters are dummies. Lol, I feel like an idiot. |
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| So that's why she died. I feel bad for her. T.T |
Truth4Lies said: akarin- said: Light from Death Note WTF? :D lol so this why they said people dying faster recently. haha! yeah, maybe XD |
Tokoya said: TheUnbiasedOne91 said: Suddenly it all makes sense to me now lollol so this why they said people dying faster recently. This haha. And Ginti remained a true Arbiter. It's difficult for me to hate on him for that. |
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| I have a feeling it will be sad ending. |
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| Beautiful episode. Cool how they wrapped up two different stories into one episode. I thought Ginti would be more understanding, though the last minutes with Harada and the girl were more beautiful than the rest of this whole episode. |
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| Well, Light was there, that really explains the high death rate recently xD |
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Tokoya said: For the most part this episode was freaking beautiful...Loved all of the symbolism as well We finally found out about Chiyuki's life and quite frankly it was one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen....Combine her past with her skills as an champion ice skater, that scene was just the epitome of beauty The feels were pretty strong once we found out that she got a career ending injury....It's sad to see how such a sweet girl would take her own life and I really felt bad for her especially when she reflected on her life with Decim TwT Ginti is a fucking cunt though....I can't believe he did that shit......And Nona is pretty much fucked now that Oculus is ready to pounce it seems...But what I like is that it seems that Decim is going to rebel in some way by doing something with Chi-chan This is setting up for quite the explosive finale and I can't wait to see it |
| I cried twice during this episode: once when Chiyoki was skating, and again when Harada opened his eyes. I honestly have no clue what is going to happen next. I thought it was going to end with Chiyuki giving Decim a peck on the cheek and then leaving. I wonder what she was going to say to him, and why he drugged her, seeing as she was willing to go. Great episode, very touching, though I dislike that Mayu's long stay was never explained. |
| "It's a tragic misunderstanding that could have been easily avoided if he just finished his sentence in time!" — Richard Watterson (The Amazing World of Gumball) |
| I just finished this episode and was reading the comments here from people who thinks chiyuki's death by suicide was disappointing and not strong enough, and I'm just... wow. I hope you guys never have to experience being with someone who has or develops a severe depression because I'm pretty sure y'all would be zero to no fucking help. |
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asukaori said:  Light's appearance got me lol'ing. Looks like everyone that's watching Death Parade has seen Death Note. X D Didn't expect so much people to catch onto the Yagami appearance. So much hate for Ginti on this thread, but he is an arbitor after all. No emotions with the sole purpose of judging people. Mayu did get part of her wish fulfilled and I guess she was happier to be with the dude even if it was going to the void. I don't hate Ginti for his decision, but the mask for the elevator was clearly a reincarnation mask before changing into a void mask after Mayu gets inside. It felt like there was deception at this very moment. Does this mean that Ginti is feeling guilty of sending them to the void so he had to deceive them? Looks like Ginti is starting to develop emotions when he shouldn't have any. |
| chiyukis memories ginti isnt bad but mayaka choosed to save that others guys live and she get to void ... that old man i angry |
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| I think ginti wanted to save the girl in the ending but the girl really wanted to be with her idol well she was happy when they got together i guess that's what she wanted huh? |
| I know I'm extremely late but sad episode. Also, its extremely possible Ginti just dressed up a doll and lied about it having a soul. |
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| The finale is going to be intriguing to say the least. I loved the life of Chiyuki through the skating scene. Very beautiful and haunting. Decim is going to mess everything up for the arbiters! And Nona is in big trouble with poppa Oculus. Caught in the act! |
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| So that's where the God of the New World, Light Yagami, ends up at! Chiyuki's past was nice to seen, and Decim's reaction was great too. Mayu couldn't stay there anyways, however,why the hell did he choose the void? 5/5 |
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| The ice-skating scene was beautiful. I don't like old man flower head.. Don't you touch Nona! |
| Ginti's decision was understandable. It's sad, but understandable. Mayu would have readily doomed someone else (who might even be the kindest person in the world, no one knows), so she could get her idol back. I guess Ginti didn't like that attitude :/ |
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Gov said: Ginti made the right decision. People questioning his decision are idiots. Harada had all the makings of being a void placement. Selfish, shallow, a serial cheater and caused one of his lovers to commit suicide. He deserved void without a shadow of a doubt. He was on the fence with Mayu. So what did he do? He tested her by asking her to choose Harada and other guy to go to void. Mayu didn't even have the audacity to ask who the other guy was or what he did in his life but instead blindly choose Harada. Ginti gave her another chance by asking her what her life would be without Harada and she said "nothing". Totally meaningless. Meaning that if she was to go reincarnation, her life would be meaningless unless she found someone to look up.Void was her destination. Ginti was on point and the people crying foul, need to grow the fuck up. This. A hundred times this. It was obvious he was testing her. He gave her a multiple choice question and she filled in all the wrong bubbles. I personally thought it was brilliant on his part, even if he did take a little too much satisfaction in it. |
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| Death Note easter egg? Anyway, the ice skating thing was really beautiful and sad. I was going to say that Ginti was a piece of shit, but Mayu was pretty selfish too. |
| Awww Chiyuki ;c I also felt really sad watching Mayu and Harada end up like that. I mean, I get that they both deserve to be sent to the void (even if I like both characters) but still pretty sad how they showed what happened to them in that elevator. |
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| the ice skating scene was defiantly my favourite scene so far wtf Ginti no!! so mad right now but it has to happen arGH |
| Another great episode, loved the skating scene, was beautiful. lol Light appearence. I wonder if he is going to void or will reincarnate. Madhouse should do a episode with Light being judged. |
| Funny to see so many people pissed of at Ginti. He acted according to his duty. And this episode was full of references on existentialist philosophy in the wake of Sartre and Camus. All in all, amazing episode. |
Nothing257 said: That episode was brilliant. the skating scene was beautiful and here explanation of what happened and her past was also good. On the other hand here death was stupid and i feel it was just disappointing. Also Ginti should have sent the girl to reincarnation and the guy to the void not both of them there but i liked to see what happens to the people that goes to the void. 4/5 Can I ask why the guy should have been sent to the void? I think I missed that part. Why the girl was sent to the void was obvious: she was willing to sacrifice a life for her own gain. Maybe you missed that part. It does not really matter if you sacrifice someone for you to live or for another person to live you get sent to the void. The only person you can sacrifice without being sent to the void is yourself. |
m-i-c-h-a-e-l said: It was not unfair. He just wanted to see if she would react the same if it was someone else's life on the line and not her idol's . She only sacrificed herself because she was a fan of the guy. If it were a random dude he would have been cop liver. It was fair. A bit cruel but fair.wtf! Ginti set up an unfair decision for Mayu and then reversed the fate of her and harada ;-; motherfucker I wonder if it was Oculus who made Decim give the spiked drink to Chiyuki. |
BobDiesel said: why should have the girl been reincarnated? she sacrificed someone to save her idol.LOL ginti trolled us and sent them both to the void. Mayu should of at least been reincarnated. To be honest Onna should go to the void too. Her life was tragic but her death was cowardice and a serious let down in my opinion. I don't think she deserves to be reincarnated. I think decim will void her too next ep. |
raveninthemuddle said: I guess only to show that sacrificing a random person for your interest sends you to the void regardless of circumstances?Does Ginti and the fan girl's plot has any significant to the story? As far as I concern you can just drop the whole plot line and have no impact to the story, and it's not like any if not every character involved is interesting or has any important message the creator wants to convey, you introduced them and the show is gonna end so you have to tie all the loose end but doing that this late diminish any urgency towards the final resolution especially we still don't have a full picture of Nona's plan. Besides, the characters are just awfully written. Ginti despite being a soulless puppet who always bitch about human making stupid decisions, and I hate him, he does not even have the ability to understand human emotion, the best he can do is to ignore, not being angry about something he can't possibly understand from the day he was born, so he is just a mouthpiece to spout out some bullshit the immature creator wants to say to the audience as if they are on equal ground with him whether it be intentional or not (you know, that's part of the narrative). And what's up with the end he shows sympathy towards the fan girl? We've seen he shows interest in her but that's all you have to do to reach that conclusion? Sure not a example of trying to make a unlikeable character redeemable at the end cliché. Onna, man I don't understand her. She showed compassion towards other victims despite barely knowing them and we have that impression for the most of the series. She is mostly a plot device but compare to other characters the show has at least you can't ignore her because she actually has some weights on the story. But after she killed herself, the first thought she had, the epic enlightenment she gained is that "people can't understand each other"? That's not right, it should be "I am so stupid why didn't I talk to my mom and my friends and just closing myself off". Why suddenly talks like you are some wise sage when you know the main reason you killed yourself is because you were weak, and it's only your situation. You know what kind of people who also talks like that? Teenagers, who is so full of themselves most of the time they tend to draw conclusions to everything after just a few exposure. Just like Ginti Onna is nothing more than a mouthpiece to deliver the great enlightenment when the time's right. And no, if you want to argue that it's just Onna's dark side and we'll somewhat get a revolution at the end but then what's the point of following her and her little adventure at Decim's creepy dungeon for the last 10 episodes if she didn't go through any chances at all. And last but not least, you should not name it "the void" if it's not totally emptiness, even in Japanese it's still doesn't make sense, that's why you need to give a clear definition if the term's meaning is different from what others commonly perceived. Maybe just like how arbiter lies to their victims "heaven or hell" the creator is just doing the same thing on us. |
raveninthemuddle said: the show it is not trying to be smart. i am not sure what religion derived from hinduism/buddhism states that after death a soul has 3 possible paths: 1. the soul can ascend to a higher plane 2. the soul can reincarnate 3. the soul ends up in some sort of buddhist version of hell and remains there forever without reincarnation. So reincarnation or the void is perfectly in line with this. If you are asking about #1 they probably never reach the place where duodecim works because that is a place for sorting failures: can we attempt another try or not?Vellamo said: Well if that was the case we would not have been informed about the hell and heaven like how characters in this anime are not told about anything before they finish the game. Because many people avoid committing sin just because they fear the hell which to me nullifies the point of judgement. The "heaven or hell" part is not written in the rules for arbiter to explain to their victims. It's mentioned in Decim's dialog in episode one when the husband asked him if they were dead or not. Now that's the problem, because apparently there are two completely different set of terms that have the same meaning according to this episode. "Heaven or hell", reward or punishment, easy to understand by most, not a problem; reincarnation or void, judging from the show they seems to view reincarnation is a good thing but the void is vague without any further exposition. Turns out it's not total emptiness like many speculated before. It's worst than death basically. And what's the big deal of that? Because it creates confusion for the audience and hinder their ability to understand the basic elements of the story. At first we don't know what is the exact meaning of reincarnation and the void and seems like only the arbiters themselves use these terms internally but change it to "heaven or hell" when explaining to the victims. The show fails to draw a clear definition stating that these are interchangeable to the audience. But why use two different set of terms when you can just use either one of them in any situation and it still has the same effects? Firstly, it sounds cool, surely reincarnation and the void sound much cooler and you can expand the meaning behind them unlike the overused terms like heaven and hell. Secondly, just like many of us, when we first heard reincarnation and the void from the show we instantly made lots of speculations about the meaning of these vaguely defined terms, so what if you were one of the victims that is still emotionally disturbed and hear these words come out of some strangers mouth, I would say "what the hell you are saying?', but when it's heaven and hell, there would be no such a problem as far as moving the plot along because it's easy to assume everyone on earth knows the meaning behind these two extremely commonly used words. I would have given the creator more credit if it is their intention for making such decision but unfortunately they failed to do even the most basic exposition. Instead it feels like they are just borrowing terms from everywhere like "The Spider's Thread", and "Memento mori" in this episode because of coolness, rather than they would move the story forward or help the audience to further understand the content. Simply put, this show is trying to be smart, and it tries to force that impression onto you by mixing all these unrelated events and poorly defined terms into one gigantic bowl of nothing. "Heaven or hell"?, nah you are just not smart enough for fancy words like "reincarnation" and "the void". |
idontwannapost said: I definitely am missing something. Why does he deserve the void?Gov said: Ginti made the right decision. People questioning his decision are idiots. Ginti gave her another chance by asking her what her life would be without Harada and she said "nothing". Totally meaningless. Meaning that if she was to go reincarnation, her life would be meaningless unless she found someone to look up.Void was her destination. Ginti was on point and the people crying foul, need to grow the fuck up. I agree with this. In the context of the show they both deserved the void. This is not to say I don't understand Mayu's feeling's though. But in the end, what we believe to be "right" and "wrong" are arbitrary anyways. |
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