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Oct 19, 2015 4:21 AM
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Hey,
Is it feasible to set up a NSFW (adult content, especially hentai) filter on here? I'm aware of the option to exclude hentai in advanced search, but I'm thinking of an auto-enabled filter for any NSFW content if the age you add in your profile settings makes you a minor. There could be an enable/disable option in a tab of the settings if you're 18+. Basically, it'd filter out all the Rx titles, and there could be a user tagging mechanism for anything else on the website including whole profiles, though the latter isn't as necessary.

I mean, lots of kids watch anime too, right? MAL is basically NSFW at its current state.

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To sum things up, it's not a suggestion to improve the social networking aspect nor is it default censorship neither, but a filter customization like any other, which in my opinion doesn't obstruct the database side of MAL.

I'm not enthousiastic about showing NSFW content to kids, no matter if they're acquainted with it or not. Others can't browse the site safely neither though, i.e. many covers have rather pointless censorship done just for rules purposes. This suggestion could allow covers to not be censored and overall, hentai to be ranked again (including shows of higher quality than the average hentai but featuring Rx scenes). As suggested by Kruzy, we could have Adult Content settings similar to AniDB.
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Yeah we need a nsfw filter especially for hentai entry posters in db so I support this
Oct 19, 2015 5:03 AM
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nah, kids watch porn at age of 10. I see no problem in hentai.

You're missing the point. It's not a matter of being inappropriate, but one of not wanting to see garbage.

Nice idea, I guess.
vegetablespiritOct 19, 2015 5:08 AM
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nah, kids watch porn at age of 10. I see no problem in hentai.

You're missing the point. It's not a matter of being inappropriate, but one of not wanting to see garbage.

Nice idea, I guess.

Thanks Max. galimx my point is to give MAL the possibility of being a SFW network. I don't care if kids I know watch that stuff (not everyone does at that age by the way). But I also don't feel too eager about being the one to show them that stuff.
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Eclapa said:
Max said:

You're missing the point. It's not a matter of being inappropriate, but one of not wanting to see garbage.

Nice idea, I guess.

Thanks Max. galimx my point is to give MAL the possibility of being a SFW network. I don't care if kids I know watch that stuff (not everyone does at that age by the way). But I also don't feel too eager about being the one to show them that stuff.
MAL is a database, not a social network. That kind of censorship just goes against the whole idea of what a database is supposed to be. It was stupid enough that they removed the rankings of all doujins and hentai
Oct 19, 2015 5:21 AM
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^ It's a database with social networking features though.

Plus the kids can't browse that awesome website safely neither, if you know what I mean. You were 10 once, you must know.

And it's just a filter you could disable, not really censorship.
Oct 19, 2015 5:37 AM
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^ I think that's for a separate topic. Although if there was such a sub forum, it'd be invisible if the filter I'm suggesting was enabled.
Oct 19, 2015 5:40 AM
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Eclapa said:
^ It's a database with social networking features though.

this community is against change in general, especially when it comes to anything that improves upon the social side. expect a lot of comparisons to 1984 and multiple uses of the word "censorship".

i encourage MAL to be a little more authoritarian, since the ones who speak out tend to be the same ones causing problems.
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NSFW content is only allowed on MAL if it's linked as a URL, put inside a spoiler tag and labeled as NSFW so everyone knows

There are no actual NSFW images or anything like that embedded anywhere on the site. Even hentai covers have their genitalia and stuff censored if they are NSFW by default (like the white boxes on the cover here for example)

Merely having hentai listed as in acknowledging its existence is not NSFW by itself
Oct 19, 2015 6:05 AM

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Max said:
this community is against change in general, especially when it comes to anything that improves upon the social side. [...]

I don't see it as an improvement of the social side.

HaXXspetten said:
[...]Even hentai covers have their genitalia and stuff censored if they are NSFW by default (like the white boxes on the cover here for example)

Merely having hentai listed as in acknowledging its existence is not NSFW by itself

You're not seriously thinking the censored genitalia makes those covers or the page as a whole suitable for work or to show anyone, do you? And that example here is one of the better ones (ignoring the fact it's lolicon, my opinion so yeah). Other covers have small dots instead of big stripes like that, with highly suggestive poses, small tactical covering like touching bodies, apparent sexual intercourses, obvious uncensored vaginal discharges, obvious uncensored semen on women. I can't use this website anywhere anytime, because something like that could pop up out of nowhere.
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If suggestive poses are enough to make it nsfw, then you might as well get rid of half of all ecchi anime as well even though they aren't even labeled as 18+

That's pretty contradictory


But again, the bottom line is simply that it makes no sense to delete information from a database just to make it more "acceptable". A database is supposed to provide accurate information to its users, not appeal to their sense of morals. Or are you going to remove the word 'sex' from every dictionary just because a kid might look that up in school? Yeah I don't think so
Oct 19, 2015 6:11 AM

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^ Please don't take parts of my posts out of context. I don't mind suggestive poses on ecchi anime pages.

I'm also not suggesting a forced filter by default and didn't mention anything about censoring words like "sex". You're making up/twisting my claims.
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I want to see AniDB's Adult Content settings.
It allows you to hide hentai entries altogether or to only hide their pictures. It also means that there would be no need to censor anime covers.
Oct 19, 2015 6:33 AM

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If this happens I hope they get ranked again.
added the fourth most popular anime onto this site
Oct 19, 2015 6:52 AM

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Main post edited.

Thanks Kruzy.
Oct 19, 2015 7:45 AM

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filtering is a nice idea imo, since there's some people that doesn't go well with hentais while deleting them from database is kinda retarded idea.
Oct 19, 2015 7:50 AM

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Chavez said:
The following suggestions have already been posted and rejected:
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  • "Hide specific anime/manga (e.g. hentai)"
    Same as above. Also, you need help if you consider this a social problem.
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Serhiyko said:
Sticky: When Posting a Site Suggestion...
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The following suggestions have already been posted and rejected:
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  • "Hide specific anime/manga (e.g. hentai)"
    Same as above. Also, you need help if you consider this a social problem.

Oh well. I did "Search forum", but all I came up with, from several queries, is one somehow related topic that was closed. (Also, it's not really about social problems) I didn't see the post below so sorry about that.

But what makes it that "amount of work"? Question out of curiosity.
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Oh well. I did "Search forum", but all I came up with, from several queries, is one somehow related topic that was closed.

I guess this closes the topic then. Sorry.

No, it may not be relevant any more. e.g., they already hide hentai in specific places (top rankings and seasonal anime)
Oct 19, 2015 8:07 AM

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^ Oops I edited my post. And thanks for the reply of course. Indeed, they do hide it.

I might make a second edit to the main post about this.
Oct 19, 2015 8:10 AM

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But what makes it that "amount of work"? Question out of curiosity.

Just an excuse for being lazy
Oct 19, 2015 8:52 AM
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Serhiyko said:
Sticky: When Posting a Site Suggestion...
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The following suggestions have already been posted and rejected:
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  • "Hide specific anime/manga (e.g. hentai)"
    Same as above. Also, you need help if you consider this a social problem.

I remembered that when first posting, though assumed it's become irrelevant in light of recent updates; the site seems to be stepping things up in the all-ages department.
Oct 19, 2015 3:59 PM

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Yeah Make it optional, but not mandatory site-wide. Also if your 13 and under your not allowed on MAL they can delete the account without notice if they think you are. I understand users don't want to see certain things so I like integrated options on this site, rather than resorting to other things..

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controversial and/or sensitive topics likely devolve into the same repetitive, derogatory, abusive, and harassing comments can no longer be posted.
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Oct 20, 2015 10:02 AM

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Max said:
Serhiyko said:
Sticky: When Posting a Site Suggestion...

I remembered that when first posting, though assumed it's become irrelevant in light of recent updates; the site seems to be stepping things up in the all-ages department.


I removed that part from the thread now. We will most likely see more hentai filtering with upcoming changes. ^^
Oct 20, 2015 12:31 PM

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^ So a mod passed by, which means the topic stays open for discussion! :)

Thanks _Ghost_.
Oct 20, 2015 12:38 PM

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I don't think MAL is particularly nsfw, in most cases nsfw will be put in a spoiler, and you should obviously know where not to go.

I've never had a problem with this during school or similar situations.

So yeah kind of an unnecessary feature.
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ppl really love stripping away everything functional on mal okay
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Eclapa said:
^ So a mod passed by, which means the topic stays open for discussion! :)

Thanks _Ghost_.

Well he's just a mod, not a developer
Oct 20, 2015 12:50 PM

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^ This has been explained already. You're just starting the same discussion again.
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Eclapa said:
^ This has been explained already.

Where?
Oct 20, 2015 2:54 PM

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Where?

Sorry. This was meant to the person who deleted his/her post after I replied. (I should have quoted to prevent this)

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I don't think MAL is particularly nsfw, in most cases nsfw will be put in a spoiler, and you should obviously know where not to go.

I've never had a problem with this during school or similar situations.

So yeah kind of an unnecessary feature.

When I'm on someone's list, I'm not supposed to guess which title is a hentai and which not. When I see a user's nick anywhere, I'm not supposed to guess if he has Rx entries on his profile. And hentai entries also appear on the main page (panel). You never having a problem doesn't mean it never happens. It has already been said above (and I added it to the main post) that it's not an "unnecessary" feature. It's also in the last paragraph of the main post.

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ppl really love stripping away everything functional on mal okay

What stripping are you talking about? If anything, it allows Rx titles to be ranked and to cease the cover censorship, which is at times anything but useful. You'd be the one to choose if you want to see this content or not.
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Max said:

I remembered that when first posting, though assumed it's become irrelevant in light of recent updates; the site seems to be stepping things up in the all-ages department.


I removed that part from the thread now. We will most likely see more hentai filtering with upcoming changes. ^^


Any specifics on what how it's gonna work?

Is MAL is gonna start allowing images without the trouble of censoring them? Since those who don't to see it probably won't be seeing them in the first place.

Something like VNDB?

Or is it probably still gonna keep them censored and have a toggle image off/on which requires registration and setting filters?

Like MangaUpdates?
Oct 22, 2015 2:40 PM

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An optional NSFW content filter would be great, especially for when you are browsing in public. For some reason, I thought we already had that feature...
Oct 22, 2015 11:43 PM

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An optional NSFW content filter would be great, especially for when you are browsing in public. For some reason, I thought we already had that feature...

This. This user would like that.
Oct 23, 2015 12:18 AM

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^I would support this as well, by deafult it would be disabled, but if you wanted to you could enable it and excluse hentai completely, so it doesn't show up in search etc.
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^I would support this as well, by deafult it would be disabled, but if you wanted to you could enable it and excluse hentai completely, so it doesn't show up in search etc.

It should remember different settings for when you're logged in and when you're not though. I was thinking of enabling it by default when not logged in, but that's not as important as the feature itself imo.
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^I would support this as well, by deafult it would be disabled, but if you wanted to you could enable it and excluse hentai completely, so it doesn't show up in search etc.

It should remember different settings for when you're logged in and when you're not though. I was thinking of enabling it by default when not logged in, but that's not as important as the feature itself imo.

yeah that's what I meant as well. I mean if you enable it once it stays enabled till you disable it and vice versa
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Sorry, but why? What's the point? The hentai covers and stuff are already censored anyway.
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Sorry, but why? What's the point? The hentai covers and stuff are already censored anyway.

some people access mal in public, meaning they don't want any nsfw content to pop up. doesn't matter if nipples and the like are censored, if you see a very suggestive picture it's still kinda.. well, I'd feel uncomfortable.
the latest recommendations/latest reviews are often hentai as well, if you just open MAL and it immediately pops up... I've had that happen several times already... e.g. I wouldn't want my small brother to see stuff like that (he comes into my room all the damn time @_@)
Also some don't like hentai AT ALL.

I mean if this gets implemented you wouldn't have to use it, you can just ignore it... it's just nice for people who would like such an option
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We need some sort of divider between the SFW and NSFW. If you have the setting for NSFW turned on, you can access Hentai and its rankings, as well as the characters and such.

Though this would be a highly ambitious task, especially considering how clunky and unorganized MAL's back end seems to be, it would be nice to see.
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We need some sort of divider between the SFW and NSFW. If you have the setting for NSFW turned on, you can access Hentai and its rankings, as well as the characters and such.

Though this would be a highly ambitious task, especially considering how clunky and unorganized MAL's back end seems to be, it would be nice to see.

MAL's Hentai & Yuri genres seem to be restricted to porn, so maybe it could hide those unless the setting is on?
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Max said:
Syrup- said:
We need some sort of divider between the SFW and NSFW. If you have the setting for NSFW turned on, you can access Hentai and its rankings, as well as the characters and such.

Though this would be a highly ambitious task, especially considering how clunky and unorganized MAL's back end seems to be, it would be nice to see.

MAL's Hentai & Yuri genres seem to be restricted to porn, so maybe it could hide those unless the setting is on?
What would you do about the characters who are in those shows? What about voice actor entries? You would have to reference the data on all pages and MAL doesn't currently do anything like that.
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aniSearch has it, too
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Syrup- said:

What would you do about the characters who are in those shows? What about voice actor entries? You would have to reference the data on all pages and MAL doesn't currently do anything like that.


This seems like much work. Isn't it possible to set up a code so that all the characters get automatically added to the filter for example? Or there could be a feature so users could hide/unhide things depending on the number of votes or something, which can be complementary to the code by the way.

If not, I think we could at least have the anime/manga pages hidden, and if you load the page while the filter is on, it'd display an error message similar to this.

More importantly, the covers. The covers must not appear anywhere while filter is on. They'd still appear on some custom anime/manga lists. That's why I'm suggesting the user feature.
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_Ghost_ said:


I removed that part from the thread now. We will most likely see more hentai filtering with upcoming changes. ^^


Any specifics on what how it's gonna work?

Is MAL is gonna start allowing images without the trouble of censoring them? Since those who don't to see it probably won't be seeing them in the first place.

Something like VNDB?

Or is it probably still gonna keep them censored and have a toggle image off/on which requires registration and setting filters?

Like MangaUpdates?


I don't know if the filtering will be to the extent of this suggestion in the future. But, as seen on the Anime Season page, filtering is already possible. Upcoming, will be search filtering, probably not a big surprise.

A suggestion related to another change that might be relevant to this is being looked over. I'm sorry that I can't disclose it yet.

That's the current standing I'm on so I can't really answer your questions, but most changes for now will be more like MangaUpdates.

Oh, which does remind me. Depending on the review section revamp, there might be changes there too regarding Hentai, but we'll have to see after it gets pushed, and adjustments and fixes have been put in place. So it will probably take a bit, and I don't want to raise any hopes as anything review related tends to become a mess. Though I hope it'll be positive for a change.
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Kruzy said:
I want to see AniDB's Adult Content settings.
It allows you to hide hentai entries altogether or to only hide their pictures. It also means that there would be no need to censor anime covers.


I would love to see this. Nothing like looking up something with princess in the title and tons of hentai comes up while you are at work. So, even if the pictures could be turned off that would be awesome.
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Kruzy said:
I want to see AniDB's Adult Content settings.
It allows you to hide hentai entries altogether or to only hide their pictures. It also means that there would be no need to censor anime covers.

This sounds like a good solution to me. Would definitely uses this.
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Kruzy said:
I want to see AniDB's Adult Content settings.
It allows you to hide hentai entries altogether or to only hide their pictures. It also means that there would be no need to censor anime covers.
This sounds like a good solution to me. Would definitely uses this.
This.

Oct 27, 2015 9:41 PM

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feel like OP is a dad that doesnt let his kids go to mal


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it would be a nice edition i suppose, make is a toggle, off by default. no point in refusing it, only question is "is it worth the time/money to create". i have no idea but it sounds tedious from my outsider's perspective.

as for the guy who had porn spammed on his account, much less likely. that would likely require every image uploaded to be screened by a moderator before it is posted to make sure its not NSFW. not going to happen. your better off having a mod block the guy and delete his photos than have every image screened.
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[...] as for the guy who had porn spammed on his account, much less likely. that would likely require every image uploaded to be screened by a moderator before it is posted to make sure its not NSFW. not going to happen. your better off having a mod block the guy and delete his photos than have every image screened.

Filter the profile. We could report profiles for that.

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