| What kinda traits/characteristics would you say are masculine or feminine? With girls getting more masculine and boys turning more feminine. "Gender roles" are seen as a negative that holds us back today... Or at least to some people. You: "What an old, overused topic." No! I'm not asking for your opinion on gender roles! I'm asking you to list any traits you would define as feminine and masculine, if you define any at all! As in: Feminine traits: Nurturing. Maternal. Conscious. Precise. Masculine traits: Valor. Nobility. Unfiltered. Impulsive. Etc. like that, you can frame it however you wish and provide as much detail as you need/want! I personally do think there are masculine and feminine traits and I don't really think all behaviors are androgynous. |
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caws said: MUH GENDER ROLES |
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| How dare u promote gender inequality in MAL OP. |
NorthBayAnime said: I don't understand Sigh, MAL. *Plays SMB3 game over theme* |
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| I had a literature professor who liked to use "feminine" and "masculine" as a dichotomy for character traits, but they didn't really have to do with gender themselves. For example "intelligence" was masculine, and "caring" was feminine. Nature was feminine, culture was masculine. I think if you're not making some statement about gender (which she claimed not to be), using the words "masculine" or "feminine" to represent that sort of gender-neutral dichotomy is useless and unnecessarily convoluted. You could call it "warm or cool" character traits, or "blue or red". It has the same effect. I don't think any traits are inherently gendered. Anybody who thinks that way needs to go on a blind date with reality. |
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| Lol the replies for this thread are gold XD |
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| I'm definitely more precise than most other males. |
Red_Keys said: I had a literature professor who liked to use "feminine" and "masculine" as a dichotomy for character traits, but they didn't really have to do with gender themselves. For example "intelligence" was masculine, and "caring" was feminine. Nature was feminine, culture was masculine. I think if you're not making some statement about gender (which she claimed not to be), using the words "masculine" or "feminine" to represent that sort of gender-neutral dichotomy is useless and unnecessarily convoluted. You could call it "warm or cool" character traits, or "blue or red". It has the same effect. I don't think any traits are inherently gendered. Anybody who thinks that way needs to go on a blind date with reality. I meant male and female traits. Hence "masculine" and "feminine". If you think some traits are masculine(manly) or feminine(girly), than this topic was to list those. This is not a topic to say male and female are androgynous with no inherent qualities tied to the two. |
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| I ride a orange bicycle does that count? |
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Red_Keys said: I don't think any traits are inherently gendered. Anybody who thinks that way needs to go on a blind date with reality. |
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| There are traits that are thought of as feminine and masculine by society, although no one should actually give a shit about that. |
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Red_Keys said: Red_Keys said: I don't think any traits are inherently gendered. Anybody who thinks that way needs to go on a blind date with reality. Looks like you found yourself in the wrong topic now doesn't it? |
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Magical-Soul said: Feminine traits: Nurturing. Maternal. Conscious. Precise.   Masculine traits: Valor. Nobility. Unfiltered. Impulsive.   |
| Men like Yu-Gi-Oh. |
| Honestly I kinda felt like writing a real reply, but this is a lot more fun =/ |
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| I'm so manly, I don't cry. My eyeballs sweat. I also fry bacon with my shirt off |
baskervillain said: i hate to repeat the obvious here (well, not really), but no traits are inherently masculine or feminine. labeling specific traits like that can limit your understanding of others and lead you to misinterpret their actions and personality. also it just doesn't make sense? at all. yes, someone of one gender may be more inclined to act a certain way depending on their brain chemistry, but anyone can have traditionally "masculine" or "feminine" traits. you don't even have to step outside to notice that behavior varies widely within genders. anyway. the only traits you listed that describe me are unfiltered and impulsive, and maybe precise if i'm being generous with myself. look out, MAL, because apparently i'm not feminine; i'm masculine as fuck. i wonder if i reek of testosterone yet 8) Masculine women aren't uncommon in the Americas. |
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| I hate the idea of feminine & masculine. Bc it can get so dumb to the point we're making materialistic things seem feminine or masculine. |
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baskervillain said: Magical-Soul said: ...should i ask what makes them so "masculine"Masculine women aren't uncommon in the Americas. ...nah Does it matter? Do you care if you're a many girl? I don't think so. x3 |
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| There's a feminist somewhere being very offended by this. |
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Magical-Soul said: Does it matter? Do you care if you're a many girl? I don't think so. x3 I'm curious why you think they're masculine. |
baskervillain said: Magical-Soul said: Does it matter? Do you care if you're a many girl? I don't think so. x3 weeeell, i don't care because i don't see those traits as "manly." they're part of my personality. i'm not gonna attach a damn gender to them just because the rest of the population 'typically' acts a certain way, lmao. i have a very "feminine" appearance but, by your definition of masculine traits, my personality is pretty masculine. i must unknowingly cause mass confusion wherever i go. Woah, calm down sugar cube. I never said you were masculine. But this topic wasn't made for the androgyny mindset of "no one is tied to anything, you can be awake and asleep simultaneously" type crowd. You can see in the opening post and how I behaved to everyone else is that this topic is not for gender fluid people. So take it easy... |
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baskervillain said: Magical-Soul said: Woah, calm down sugar cube. I never said you were masculine. But this topic wasn't made for the androgyny mindset of "no one is tied to anything, you can be awake and asleep simultaneously" type crowd. You can see in the opening post and how I behaved to everyone else is that this topic is not for gender fluid people. So take it easy... i'm not upset..? but i don't understand the reasoning behind the topic, and i'd like you to explain how you believe certain traits to be masculine and feminine. what makes them that way? i'm just curious, lol. The topic is a question. Not a reason/argument. Now, you'd like a short explanation of "how" I believe there are feminine and masculine traits? If we put tumblr, feminism and easy whine stations out of the equation, you'll be left with natural law and sensibilities. Obviously, if left without intervention(school/tumblr/feminism/idiots), a natural order of things will naturally form. Men will be less tactful, they will care more about establishing things for themselves than helping others, females will care for themselves, of course, but they would be the more nurturing of the two. The womb is feminine(duh), bonding with young is naturally something women will be more familiar with since men(naturally) don't birth, breast feed or teach children. Being attracted to men is a feminine trait. Being attracted to females is a masculine trait, do you think nature intended men to have sexual relations with men? Do you think nature intended female and female sexual relations? No, of course not. We already know male x female is the "correct" pairing of genders. Which makes those inherent traits of masculinity and femininity. This is nature, it's what biology intended. There's nothing "wrong" with those other pairings, they're just not "right" either. Those would be examples of a couple inherent traits. And that is "how" I believe in those traits! And, that's the story. You never knew. |
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| What about my freedom? |
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| Are whose feminine and masculine characteristics what? |
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caws said: Pics?my penis is pretty feminine |
Magical-Soul said: Just a few corrections here. The topic is a question. Not a reason/argument. Now, you'd like a short explanation of "how" I believe there are feminine and masculine traits? If we put tumblr, feminism and easy whine stations out of the equation, you'll be left with natural law and sensibilities. Obviously, if left without intervention(school/tumblr/feminism/idiots), a natural order of things will naturally form. Men will be less tactful, they will care more about establishing things for themselves than helping others, females will care for themselves, of course, but they would be the more nurturing of the two. The womb is feminine(duh), bonding with young is naturally something women will be more familiar with since men(naturally) don't birth, breast feed or teach children. Being attracted to men is a feminine trait. Being attracted to females is a masculine trait, do you think nature intended men to have sexual relations with men? Do you think nature intended female and female sexual relations? No, of course not. We already know male x female is the "correct" pairing of genders. Which makes those inherent traits of masculinity and femininity. This is nature, it's what biology intended. There's nothing "wrong" with those other pairings, they're just not "right" either. Those would be examples of a couple inherent traits. And that is "how" I believe in those traits! And, that's the story. You never knew. The "Natural order" of things is more influenced by culture than you'd think. You boxed out things like school and tumblr without realizing that it is those very social structures that create gender norms, not nature. With a few quick google searches you can find that there have been many societies throughout history that have majorly defied what we now consider masculine and feminine traits. Just because a certain stereotype is popular in the time in which you live doesn't mean it is natural. In nature there is no "correct" pairing. There are dozens of species (mostly relatively intelligent ones) that form same sex pairings for the purpose of emotional support. In fact, in many species of primates, sexual interactions between members of the same sex outnumber interactions between opposite sexes. (If the conditions are right of course. Low female population, things like that.) Lastly, nature doesn't "intend" anything, it doesn't have a will or an objective. All perceived goals are projected by humans onto nature. To make things clear, I don't disagree with the core of what you are saying. Just wanted to point out some things I had an issue with. OT:Out of the traits you listed these were the ones I felt could apply to me. Conscious. Precise. Valor. Nobility. |
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| I don' t believe masculine and feminine are truly objective things. They are fictional concepts of social constructs. Sure there are some things that differ from male to female with societal influence but aside but once it is there is so much overlap and exceptions to the rule its not much point of separation as they are all human qualities whether they appear in one gender more than the other or not. |
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| women -bad -cooties men -good -no cooties Pretty obvious who's better tbqfh imfho |
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| If no traits are gender neutral then I automatically have both. On average women will have more feminine traits and men will have more masculine traits but they will each have both or they probably won't work very well in society. If being able to work is a masculine trait then being a woman without that trait would be tough. If caring about other people's feelings is a feminine trait then being a man without that trait would be tough. I think all traits should be viewed as gender neutral. |
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caws said: Waifusexual said: Pics? how dare you objectify me like that Pics or I won't believe you |
| ^the thirst is strong today on MAL ;p Is this because week-end just ended ? |
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traed said: I don' t believe masculine and feminine are truly objective things. They are fictional concepts of social constructs. Sure there are some things that differ from male to female with societal influence but aside but once it is there is so much overlap and exceptions to the rule its not much point of separation as they are all human qualities whether they appear in one gender more than the other or not. Do they even read the OPs anymore?! xD |
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-YunoGasai said: Feminine Traits: -Likes housework -Stays in shape Masculine Traits -Brings home the bacon -Protective instinct Are you trying to be funny because you're not :) |
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Magical-Soul said: I read every word but I don' t see the point really. All you're mostly going to get is people just repeating the same expected answers because they lived their whole life hearing the associations and living in a world that is influenced by them. The only fairly universal one would women are pretty easily tied to birth because they give birth (so long as they are not infertile, not lesbians, and do actually want kids). Yet when it comes to life and death you can not really tie it to man or woman because both have this of themselves. You can associate women with baby nurturing as well because they are in normal cases the only ones who can produce breast milk to feed babies setting aside other forms of nutrients and just basing that off of other animals. Beyond these things I can not really think of anything a man or woman can do that the other can not to at least some extent. These are only biological differences creating such associations though. Everything beyond this is based upon cultural influences and differences in level of abilities. Man and woman is not a living embodiment of polar opposites.traed said: I don' t believe masculine and feminine are truly objective things. They are fictional concepts of social constructs. Sure there are some things that differ from male to female with societal influence but aside but once it is there is so much overlap and exceptions to the rule its not much point of separation as they are all human qualities whether they appear in one gender more than the other or not. Do they even read the OPs anymore?! xD |
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-YunoGasai said: mayukachan said: Are you trying to be funny because you're not :) No, I still hold view that it is a mans duty to provide for his wife, and it is a wifes duty to keep the house clean, and keep her figure in check. Watch out, white knights and overweight Feminazis are nearby... Keep your voice down.. |
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caws said: i would hope so when you spend your life on here wouldn't make much sense if you hated it! x) naw my life belongs to touken ranbu |
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