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| Wow, there was a Discworld reference in Jean's dream! (Four elephants riding atop a giant turtle.) Now this episode seems slightly less shitty. |
| Without Jean, the creator of all handy things they wouldn't have survived long :P |
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| I thought episode 23 was bad enough but this is worse. |
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| just when you thought nadia couldn't get any more hysterical, this episode just takes the fucking pastry shop I FUCKING MISS SANSON WHERE'S A MAN WHEN YOU NEED ONE I MISS SEEING HIM AND MARIE GET ALONG SO WELL <3 Marie turned out to be quite level-headed this time around. That crayon story in the end pointing out the specifics of Jean and Nadia is SPOT ON |
TyrelJan 18, 2016 1:34 PM
| Maries drawings were so cute. |
| Wowzers, so this is the stark character change that happens with Nadia. I forgotten which episodes were the ones that were suggested to skip, so i was wondering if I could identify when those episode would start through casual viewing. Turns out it was just the previous episode, huh. It wasn't until this episode that I really felt the change though. I did feel it in the last episode, when Marie was pounding on the captain's organ, Nadia responded with a soft smile, even though she was still trying to comprehend his apparent death. When Jean remarked at the amount of useful books in the room, Nadia snapped pretty harshly, which didn't make sense to me. Though, by that point, it was to be expected. This episode however, not only is Nadia content with living on a deserted island with zero survival skills, she forces everyone to live with her, she still disregards any shred of good will Jean tries to put out, any shred of humanity created including campfires or even food, she steals canned food from the camp despite her complaining (and ends up destroying them haphazardly), gets washed out to sea and remarks as to why nature refuses to help her (has it ever?), and after getting rescued by Jean and Marie, she still complains about the fish not saving her due to Jean's and Marie's fishing? First, I know that this is a result of behind-the-scenes problems at the development level, causing a disparity within Nadia's character. She was disagreeable before, but now she's just bitter. Second, her character and personality are both recognized by the show's narration and even through her own self-deprecating remarks. Though, by this point, she's being used as a narrative tool to portray science as a necessary evil of sorts. Third, Nadia's clothes and jewelry are made from human hands. Her language is a human construct. Her ideals are human constructs. At this point, I think the show is confused, and it's fascinating to see it change almost by the episode. Again, I'm not holding anything against Nadia's character or the show itself, but it's interesting to see where the writing and script are taking themselves. |
| Well at least Nadia understand what she is and which position they are! The episode was a bit better than last, but I still wonder what will happen next! Nice lovely story from Marie I must say! |
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| So much stuff is over-the-top, wow. At least Marie's drawings were pretty cute, I liked them. I wonder how much worse can it get, and how much will happen during these 12 filler episodes. In the first several episodes of the show, there were a lot of plot advancements during the island arc, which showed us Gargoyle, his goals, inventions and so on. But literally nothing happens in these episodes. P.S. they even changed the narrator |
St0rmbladeSep 6, 2019 2:32 PM
JTurner said: St0rmblade said: they even changed the narrator I always found it odd that the narrator in the Japanese version starts out as a serious businessman for the first half and then turns into a woman's for the second half. This is probably due to infamous production issues. They might've replaced the seiyuu for this role due to budget problems or whatever. BTW, the anime's page on ANN doesn't even mention the second Japanese narrator. https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=48 The second narrator is present in the Italian dub for some reason, though. |
| . . . . whelp Nadia went completely insane this episode XD and it was just awful ^-^ I mean she wakes them up really early not for anything useful like gathering water or building shelter but to tell them the names she has given things on the island . . . I am sure someone thought this was funny . . . it is not. And Nadia decides to live in the jungle with nature her behavior and extreme nature in this episode really comes off like she had a severe mental breakdown XD The montage was the better part of the episode since no one talked with that awful dialogue XD the attempts at "comedy" throughout the episode made me cringe; that dream, Nadia acting like Tarzan, Nadia trying to open the cans just pure cringe! Plus Nadia believing all wildlife will come to her aid WTF she never believed that she just respects wildlife extremely I have to wonder if the person who mapped out this episode watched the previous episodes I mean the way she is acting is not even a parody since it is not even an extreme version of her character it just a completely different character. Just gotta keep telling myself this is not canon. The drawings Marie made were not too bad of a send off but the bulk of this episode was just a pain to watch and it is only episode 2 of this arc :D oh boy well better keep on powering through so I can start working on forgetting these episodes quicker ^-^ |
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JTurner said: Animated_Amateur said: I have to wonder if the person who mapped out this episode watched the previous episodes I mean the way she is acting is not even a parody since it is not even an extreme version of her character it just a completely different character. Just gotta keep telling myself this is not canon. Anno wasn't directing these episodes; it was Shinji Higuchi. It's hard to say what was happening, but apparently he didn't share the same vision as Anno. Only eps 30 and 31 are salvageable. But eps 23-29 and 32-34 are another story. Oh yeah I was aware that Anno was not involved with this set of episodes and someone else was handling their direction. I did hear that Anno mentioned he would have left two episodes in from this arc if he had the final say good to know at least episodes 30 and 31 have some redeemable qualities according to him. Thanks for the info! |
TheCrimsonEyeApr 21, 2020 5:38 AM
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| Marie is so fucking smug in this episode and the scene where they're showcasing her drawings might be one of my favorites of the series. Comfy island life and Nadia going insane otherwise. The boat Jean built to go fishing is cool too. |
| I think Nadia still hates grownups, but she still has the urge to change, rather than growing up, she just takes her beliefs to the extreme and considers that a "rebirth". Two fauna on the island just went away in that scene. She claims she can talk to all animals, I think it's probably because King and the circus animals were trained to talk to her as much as she was trained to talk to them. Jean's dream was trippy af |
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| I thought it was at least more interesting than the last episode, at least things happened in this one. It's still a shadow of what the series once was. I liked Marie's story, but Nadia was acting particularly stupid; asking the fish to come and save her? Come on, she's not that dumb. I also don't like how they keep anthropomorphizing King lately. |
| Very unorganized, directionless episode. 3/5 |
| The ending was cute but nothing really happens, while Nadia loving animals and hating science isn't out of character they flanderized her into a weird mix between a caveman and Snow White. Jean and Marie are fine but I can see why people dislike these episodes now. |
KitzoonMar 4, 2024 5:09 PM
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| that guitar solo rendition of the theme, that's the stuff Jean ran into himself ^_^ King as a muscular human captain LOL step on me Nadia, and smash me with an absurdly large boulder! Marie... can perfectly understand King... mind boggling. surely Nadia has gotten humbled almost enough times now to stop acting chronically whiny! wholesome coloring book ^_^ i'm not seeing the problem with these episodes, this stuff is a hoot |
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