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| So Shiki married someone else other than Katou? |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
Confucius said: Who?So Shiki married someone else other than Katou? |
ssjokg said: Confucius said: Who?So Shiki married someone else other than Katou? I think he means Kokotou. But no, I'm pretty sure she did marry Kokutou. |
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cupc said: ssjokg said: Confucius said: Who?So Shiki married someone else other than Katou? I think he means Kokotou. But no, I'm pretty sure she did marry Kokutou. It was obvious from the 7th movie that she would marry him. |
Confucius said: So Shiki married someone else other than Katou? Pretty sure she marry Kokutou. What makes you think she marry someone else? |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
| Great movie with better visuals as expected from ufotable, I liked the slow pace and build up as always It's quite rare no one died this time, the serial killer like accelerator has begun a new life after getting his ability removed There were a lot of references to the previous chapters, but it's been to long to recall or put a place to it The fortune teller seems to have met both of Shiki's personalities along the way |
MrNTR said: Mana looks so much like her aunt and she's adorable. As expected of the precursor of the Tohno gland, that thing is powerful. Tohno Shiki has to at least put some effort into it; for Mikiya, it comes effortlessly. I still don't understand the whole male and female personality thing. I simply use it as a way to differentiate between the two personalities and I understand the story and importance of each but the characters and story makes it sound like Shiki's male personality is genuinely male. Shiki is 100% physically female so it doesn't matter which personality is in control, she is still 100% female. What does Mikiya have to do with the Tohno or teh Ryougi families? SHIKI is 100% male.It doesnt matter if the body is of a female.That is why in previous movies Touko asks Mikiya what he would prefer Shiki being male of female even though they know that the body is female.Mikiya responds that he would prefer her to be female. |
| first story was good, didn't like the second one though. |
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| Again I'm totally blown away by the amazingness of this series! Really the quality of the story, characters and general development is just so damn amazing and let's not forget the amazing art and animation! These movies are just awesome as hell but it does seem this is the last one or will there be a chance of another one? Either way I really loved this movie! 9/10 |
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| Given that a large part of Kara no Kyoukai focuses on Shiki's self-identity, it's a shame that we don't get to see the full end results of all her struggles. I mean, yeah, we see Mana, and we also see that Shiki is the mob boss, but we don't get to see what her life is actually like. We don't get to see her interact with Kokutou or Mana, and we don't get to see how everything that happened since the Epilogue influenced her self-identity. If there's one thing that I think Mirai Fukuin could have done better, it would be showing her living the happy, normal life she dreamt of, not just showing us the "proof" of it (Mana and mama-Shiki). Although, I wonder how that would affect the tone, and if it would still feel like a Kara no Kyoukai film. Hmmm... Crap, now I'm back to being torn on it. >_< |
| Needs more adult shiki! nuff'said |
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| Mana was so cute x3 |
ssjokg said: MrNTR said: Mana looks so much like her aunt and she's adorable. As expected of the precursor of the Tohno gland, that thing is powerful. Tohno Shiki has to at least put some effort into it; for Mikiya, it comes effortlessly. I still don't understand the whole male and female personality thing. I simply use it as a way to differentiate between the two personalities and I understand the story and importance of each but the characters and story makes it sound like Shiki's male personality is genuinely male. Shiki is 100% physically female so it doesn't matter which personality is in control, she is still 100% female. What does Mikiya have to do with the Tohno or teh Ryougi families? SHIKI is 100% male.It doesnt matter if the body is of a female.That is why in previous movies Touko asks Mikiya what he would prefer Shiki being male of female even though they know that the body is female.Mikiya responds that he would prefer her to be female. Think he's jokingly referring the fact that both Kokutou and Tohno have girls falling for them everywhere, and apparently Kokutou was the prototype for Tohno. |
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Adramelech said: So who was the biological father of Mana again? I don't have the slightest idea about wtf people are talking about in this thread btw. It's Mikiya. Mana calls Mikiya "papa", but she calls SHIKI "otou-sama". |
| Shizune and Mana were ridiculously cute. I thank ufotable for that. The nice one-on-one interaction between Shizune and Kokutou was touching while knowing what happened to Mitsuru ten years after the incident was heartwarming. How I loved seeing Mana and Mitsuru together. This movie was one of the better ones in the series and gets a 9/10. |
| I think it was the worst film of Kara no Kyoukai series, however it was still good. Sometimes I was bored what is a big minus for me. I would love to know more about Shiki's daughter... |
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| I thought this was one of the better films of the series. Maybe it's mostly because I love Shizune's character :) I did not expect her personality to be anything like that at all after seeing her character design. She looks like a tomboy, but she's so damn kawaii :D I wish she could be in more films. I think the 1st hour of the film could've been stretched out into a 2-hour film though. It had a lot of potential imo, but ended fairly quickly. Shiki too OP I guess hahaha. The last 30 minutes weren't all too interesting, but it was nice to see Shiki and her daughter Mana. Mana's personality doesn't surprise me too much with Shiki being her mother haha Hmm, I just searched around, and I wonder if they're planning on adapting that last short chapter? The Garden of Oblivion which is 134 pages I believe. Idk around how much time that converts into anime, but I hope they do adapt it one day. |
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| I want a new movie now.. |
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| Lmao this movie made me come to terms with a bit of sexism within me, by the end of the movie I was utterly confused as to how Mikiya had turned into that gangster with sunglasses all due to the big boss only daughter stuff and then her name reveal in the end being Shiki and Mikiya's daughter. Then after taking it in and really looking back at the scenes, I realized Shiki was the boss they were talking about, not the guy in sunglasses. I think this was my favorite Kara no Kyoukai movie, I enjoyed all the characters and how the story flowed. Edit- I think the people who think Shiki married someone different might have had that sexism thing in them too, thinking she married that guy in sunglasses and he was the big boss lol. |
EpicenterMay 12, 2015 7:49 PM
| Jaywalker. |
| Great movie, wasn't expecting much from it but they surprised me. |
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| Great Movie. 9/10. Would have been better if Shizune actually played a role in the movie. Looks like Shiki is now the head of the Ryougi family and also has ties with the Yakuza. I am glad that she did not turn 'feminine' after her marriage. |
| Where does this movie fit in the movies for Kara no Kyoukai? I am confused and just want to clear up this misunderstanding. |
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dustinator1991 said: Where does this movie fit in the movies for Kara no Kyoukai? I am confused and just want to clear up this misunderstanding. The "past" scenario with the bomber is set after Movie 3 and before Movie 1's events. The "future" scenario with Shiki's daughter is set waaaay after the Epilogue though. |
| So Shiki became a gang leader lol. But what I dont understand is why Mana's last name is Ryougi not Kokutou. Is there like a special rule in Japan that if your wife is part of a clan your offsprings will get your wife's last name? because its like how Naruto's last name is Uzumaki when his father's last name is Namikaze. |
"I have been wielding a blade since before your were swimming around your father's scrotum." - Kurou |
Xynic said: So Shiki became a gang leader lol. But what I dont understand is why Mana's last name is Ryougi not Kokutou. Is there like a special rule in Japan that if your wife is part of a clan your offsprings will get your wife's last name? because its like how Naruto's last name is Uzumaki when his father's last name is Namikaze. Yes, more or less. In this case, because Mikiya married into Shiki's family clan, that means their daughter gets to take on her mother's last name. |
| What a heartwarming end to all that bloodshed. This final movie was pure fanservice, in a fantastic good way! ^^ |
| I really loved this, more people should watch it. Sad to see only 15k completed this movie. |
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| it was ok. i felt bad for mitsuru and his losing his powers, though. yea he brought it on himself but now he's such a loser lol i was considering rating this 7/10 especially the part with mufune, mana and himself since it was boring as crap, but then i saw shiki and her past, so i jumped it to 8. i can't get enough of meh backstories. also woahwoahwoahwoah wait. IS MANA SHIKI'S LEGIT DAUGHTER O_o ---- Arcanophilus said: renkinotaku said: I was waiting for a preview for the next movie...but no. T_T When Nasu is short on cash, he will probably writes a sequel and then make another Kara no Kyoukai movie. The FSN remake is well under way. And they are planning to make a new Tsukihime (I am not sure if it is a remake or a sequel). After that, type-moon will probably have to make something new with the Kara no Kyoukai series. All in all, Kara no Kyoukai series, Fate series, Tsukihime series are the sources of income to the company. "FSN"? what's that? |
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TomDay said: i was considering rating this 7/10 especially the part with mufune, mana and himself since it was boring as crap, but then i saw shiki and her past, so i jumped it to 8. i can't get enough of meh backstories. Honestly it's best to view this film as a fun treat for fans of the series, especially since it was actually written waaaaay after the other films came out. Nasu (the author) basically wrote this film as a new adventure for Shiki and co. In that way, it's not really essential story-wise, but I do like how it doesn't let up in expanding Shiki and Kokutou's character (especially in terms of the personality SHIKI). That said, there's also one other thing why I do like it and that's.... TomDay said: also woahwoahwoahwoah wait. IS MANA SHIKI'S LEGIT DAUGHTER O_o Haha yes! Indeed, Mana is Shiki and Kokutou's legit daughter. >u< TomDay said: "FSN"? what's that? FSN stands for "Fate/Stay Night". I'm surprised you haven't heard of it since it's arguably Type-Moon's most popular work, but yeah that's basically it. That said, while it's by the same author/studio, the genre is definitely closer to urban fantasy, so if you liked the more "reserved" supernatural atmosphere of Kara no Kyoukai, I can't guarantee if you'll equally like FSN since it's closer to fantasy storytelling. I personally prefer the writing in Kara no Kyoukai over many of Nasu's other works (which I consider a mixed bag), but that's just me. |
ronriNov 12, 2015 12:09 AM
ronri said: Honestly it's best to view this film as a fun treat for fans of the series, especially since it was actually written waaaaay after the other films came out. Nasu (the author) basically wrote this film as a new adventure for Shiki and co. ah, ok then. Haha yes! Indeed, Mana is Shiki and Kokutou's legit daughter. >u< b-but...how could someone as nice as mikiya become a TOP RANK GANGSTER?!? DDDDD: what went wrong... FSN stands for "Fate/Stay Night". I'm surprised you haven't heard of it since it's arguably Type-Moon's most popular work, but yeah that's basically it. That said, while it's by the same author/studio, the genre is definitely closer to urban fantasy, so if you liked the more "reserved" supernatural atmosphere of Kara no Kyoukai, I can't guarantee if you'll equally like FSN since it's closer to fantasy storytelling. I personally prefer the writing in Kara no Kyoukai over many of Nasu's other works (which I consider a mixed bag), but that's just me. oh no no, i know what it is, i just never heard of it used that way. i have seen some fate/stay fights and it should be illegal how epic they make it. i've never watched it all, though. i just watched some episodes with my brother, who recently finished the series. REALLY?!? THE SAME PERSON?!? well that answers my brother's question. i was looking at the 5th movie and he plopped down on the couch and looked at the last 45 minutes or so with me. while he found it interesting, when he looked at tomoe he asked "Why does he look like the boy from Fate/Stay?" XP wow i have all this new respect for this dude! |
TomDayNov 12, 2015 7:54 PM
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TomDay said: b-but...how could someone as nice as mikiya become a TOP RANK GANGSTER?!? DDDDD: what went wrong... Well in Japan, yakuza are sometimes taken more as outlaws than outright criminals. I have little to no doubt that with Shiki at the helm of the Ryougi clan that it wouldn't be as bad as it seems. Basically since Mikiya didn't have a job after Touko left, he got a job working under Shiki's father as an organizer. Since he eventually married into Shiki's family, their daughter took on Shiki's last name instead, hence "Mana Ryougi". TomDay said: oh no no, i know what it is, i just never heard of it used that way. i have seen some fate/stay fights and it should be illegal how epic they make it. i've never watched it all, though. i just watched some episodes with my brother, who recently finished the series. REALLY?!? THE SAME PERSON?!? well that answers my brother's question. i was looking at the 5th movie and he plopped down on the couch and looked at the last 45 minutes or so with me. while he found it interesting, when he looked at tomoe he asked "Why does he look like the boy from Fate/Stay?" XP wow i have all this new respect for this dude! Essentially yeah. Funnily enough, you'll find that the main protagonist in Fate/Stay Night looks like Tomoe while the main rival antagonist has similarities to Souren. If it wasn't obvious enough, they're both inspired from Tomoe and Souren. Actually a lot of their other works are heavily inspired from Kara no Kyoukai's designs and general world, given how it was actually Nasu's first published work. |
CLBGM said: Ok, fuck Movie 5 and 7. This is my new favorite KnK movie. OMG the first half was like kinda boring but the second half... damn But I don't understand one thing. Is Mana in love with her father or with that ex-terrorist guy? 10-years old girls often say that they are "in love" with their dad. It's not something to take seriously. |
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| I tried so hard not to cry at the scene when the dog died... T_T why u do dis!? OMG... Wow, this movie was so touching... I couldn't help it but shed some tears. Watching that Shiki spared Mitsuru's life, and what he became after that... Seeing Shiki's and Kokutou's daughter... And then seeing Shiki herself after all those years... wow... Everything felt so nostalgic. This felt like the end and also a new beginning as Mitsuru said, that the old story is over and a new one is going on (not the exact words of course). Mana was talking some things with Mitsuru about her mother, and "convince" her. Things I didn't quite understand... Oh well, I was overwhelmed by everything that was happening. Beautiful movie, and it closes the entire saga. It was a nice ride, and I'm not sure I could ask for more. I don't know how to express the joy of having experienced this story, and I think that I'm not the only one. Truly amazing. Now, like review type: Story: The development of the story was good, nice pacing, temporal jumps well differentiated, events well paced and developed. Not only the story of Seo but the story of Mitsuru, and also the future... Art: Perfect as always, if it isn't better. Music: Can't complain here even if I wanted. Beautiful music, soundtrack, FX. It really immerses you in the story. Characters: I think it's the best part of this movie because it introduces some new characters that you would end up liking. Yeah, the "main villain" ended up as a good man, and became an instant like (at least for me). Seo was so sweet and naive. And Mana, truly the daughter of Shiki, got her arrogance and strong personality but the shine of Kokutou's persona. Not without saying she looks a lot like him. Overall: Exquisite. I loved it. At the post credits scene I could only say "Goodbye Shiki, it was nice" |
HDarkmantis said: I tried so hard not to cry at the scene when the dog died... T_T why u do dis!? OMG... Wow, this movie was so touching... I couldn't help it but shed some tears. Watching that Shiki spared Mitsuru's life, and what he became after that... Seeing Shiki's and Kokutou's daughter... And then seeing Shiki herself after all those years... wow... Everything felt so nostalgic. This felt like the end and also a new beginning as Mitsuru said, that the old story is over and a new one is going on (not the exact words of course). Mana was talking some things with Mitsuru about her mother, and "convince" her. Things I didn't quite understand... Oh well, I was overwhelmed by everything that was happening. Beautiful movie, and it closes the entire saga. It was a nice ride, and I'm not sure I could ask for more. I don't know how to express the joy of having experienced this story, and I think that I'm not the only one. Truly amazing. Now, like review type: Story: The development of the story was good, nice pacing, temporal jumps well differentiated, events well paced and developed. Not only the story of Seo but the story of Mitsuru, and also the future... Art: Perfect as always, if it isn't better. Music: Can't complain here even if I wanted. Beautiful music, soundtrack, FX. It really immerses you in the story. Characters: I think it's the best part of this movie because it introduces some new characters that you would end up liking. Yeah, the "main villain" ended up as a good man, and became an instant like (at least for me). Seo was so sweet and naive. And Mana, truly the daughter of Shiki, got her arrogance and strong personality but the shine of Kokutou's persona. Not without saying she looks a lot like him. Overall: Exquisite. I loved it. At the post credits scene I could only say "Goodbye Shiki, it was nice" I'm glad that you enjoyed this series, KnK is truly a gem in Japanese animation. I suggest you to rewatch this anime some day in the future, maybe some months, because it's possible to grasp a lot of details and foreshadowing. Everytime that I rewatch these movies I end up loving them even more. Anyway, do you plan to explore something else in the Type-Moon universe? |
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Xarvon said: I'm glad that you enjoyed this series, KnK is truly a gem in Japanese animation. I suggest you to rewatch this anime some day in the future, maybe some months, because it's possible to grasp a lot of details and foreshadowing. Everytime that I rewatch these movies I end up loving them even more. Anyway, do you plan to explore something else in the Type-Moon universe? Oh, you bet I'm going to. It's saved as a mandatory rewatch someday (I'll let it rest for now). It was a work of art, both in story and artistic execution. (UfotablexType-moon = Best Ship) Well, regarding other Type-moon works: I've watched Fate/Zero anime, and also read the LN. I'm reading the FSN VN and currently waiting for UTW to release the second tier of UBW in 1080p so I can start watching the first part (Internet spoiled me stuff, but that's my fault for waiting so much to watch it). I'm also reading Fate/Apocrypha. I have plans to read Fate/Strange Fake, Fate/Prototype Fragments, Tsukihime (manga). Deen's FSN is a stain I'd like to forget if I could. I dropped it xD |
HumbertoZeroMar 26, 2016 12:06 PM
HDarkmantis said: Xarvon said: I'm glad that you enjoyed this series, KnK is truly a gem in Japanese animation. I suggest you to rewatch this anime some day in the future, maybe some months, because it's possible to grasp a lot of details and foreshadowing. Everytime that I rewatch these movies I end up loving them even more. Anyway, do you plan to explore something else in the Type-Moon universe? Oh, you bet I'm going to. It's saved as a mandatory rewatch someday (I'll let it rest for now). It was a work of art, both in story and artistic execution. (UfotablexType-moon = Best Ship) Well, regarding other Type-moon works: I've watched Fate/Zero anime, and also read the LN. I'm reading the FSN VN and currently waiting for UTW to release the second tier of UBW in 1080p so I can start watching the first part (Internet spoiled me stuff, but that's my fault for waiting so much to watch it). I'm also reading Fate/Apocrypha. I have plans to read Fate/Strange Fake, Fate/Prototype Fragments, Tsukihime (manga). Deen's FSN is a stain I'd like to forget if I could. I dropped it xD Nice man, remember to play Fate/Hollow Ataraxia after you finish Fate/Stay Night. |
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| It took me a lot of remembering since the last time I watched this movie series was 4 years ago, but it was amazing to be able to watch another addition to the series...brings back a lot of memories from when i watched the original 7 movies. I really liked both parts and it gave a good ending to the series imo. |
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Faiqjefri said: Guys. I just love how this movie series give me that thrill and make me thinking and all. but its really confusing.. idk if there's manga for it for me to refer for all this question i have. but can someone tell me the sequence of this series? because apparently i just finish watching Kara No Kyoukai: Mirai Fukuin.. is there a movie that i should had watch first before this one? i just found out there's are sequel or prequel of this movie titled kara no kyoukai : satsujin kousatsu.. and it got me so confused like why is there a male shiki all of the sudden.. i just dont get the connection.. You just watched the last movie released. Read here for the order: https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/wiki/watch_order?#wiki_kara_no_kyoukai |
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