black1blade said: KamiCity said: lol at people who say something is shit after 1 episode, lol at people who run around bashing a studio because they have some personal issues with it I doubt ufotable will move away from type moon unless god eater and tales sell very well. As long as it's a good studio doing the type moon stuff, I don't mind. After this point, I will be very very happy if ufo announce any sort of type moon adaptation (in order of preference: mahoyo>apo>tsuki>HA). I think shaft should do fate/extra after the OPs they made. It will be filled with head tilts,visual story telling and monologues...damn it would be good. |
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black1blade said: KamiCity said: lol at people who say something is shit after 1 episode, lol at people who run around bashing a studio because they have some personal issues with it I doubt ufotable will move away from type moon unless god eater and tales sell very well. As long as it's a good studio doing the type moon stuff, I don't mind. After this point, I will be very very happy if ufo announce any sort of type moon adaptation (in order of preference: mahoyo>apo>tsuki>HA). I think shaft should do fate/extra after the OPs they made. In all honesty, Ufotable has been making Tales and Godeater stuff for a long time also so nothing really has changed for them. Them making series for them now instead of multiple OVA's just means they have more staff to do more with those titles I mean if people are going to say they are loyal to typemoon, they have to realize that they've been loyal to tales and godeater also. |
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| They're about to go out of business with godeater and tales of z bombing. romagia said: Toriko movie - manga That was just a short promotional thing. They made toriko to edgy. |
ichii_1Jul 15, 2015 11:28 AM
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KamiCity said: black1blade said: I doubt ufotable will move away from type moon unless god eater and tales sell very well. As long as it's a good studio doing the type moon stuff, I don't mind. After this point, I will be very very happy if ufo announce any sort of type moon adaptation (in order of preference: mahoyo>apo>tsuki>HA). I think shaft should do fate/extra after the OPs they made. In all honesty, Ufotable has been making Tales and Godeater stuff for a long time also so nothing really has changed for them. Them making series for them now instead of multiple OVA's just means they have more staff to do more with those titles I mean if people are going to say they are loyal to typemoon, they have to realize that they've been loyal to tales and godeater also. Fair point. |
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ichii_1 said: They're about to go out of business with godeater and tales of z bombing. Umm no, opinions of western fans don't matter XD. Even if they both sell like shit, they fucking sold 40k fate UBW blu rays at $350 each. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
black1blade said: ichii_1 said: They're about to go out of business with godeater and tales of z bombing. Umm no, opinions of western fans don't matter XD. Even if they both sell like shit, they fucking sold 40k fate UBW blu rays at $350 each. actually the guy is salty as GE is getting more attention than Overlord lol |
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| ^that has nothing nothing to do with this :( even thou overlord is the superior series black1blade said: ichii_1 said: They're about to go out of business with godeater and tales of z bombing. Umm no, opinions of western fans don't matter XD. Even if they both sell like shit, they fucking sold 40k fate UBW blu rays at $350 each. When the fate series stops rolling in $, then what? death and if they keep using that ugly cg like artstyle like in godeater I guarantee you ufotable will die in 5 years. and if heavens feel is 1 movie XD I'm a laugh my ass off XD XD XD |
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| Thing is...Type Moon is HUGE lol so it will be quite some time before they actually reach that stage..but yeah,they should try some more variety |
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| [quote=black1blade] KamiCity said: black1blade said: I doubt ufotable will move away from type moon unless god eater and tales sell very well. As long as it's a good studio doing the type moon stuff, I don't mind. After this point, I will be very very happy if ufo announce any sort of type moon adaptation (in order of preference: mahoyo>apo>tsuki>HA). I think shaft should do fate/extra after the OPs they made. In all honesty, Ufotable has been making Tales and Godeater stuff for a long time also so nothing really has changed for them. Them making series for them now instead of multiple OVA's just means they have more staff to do more with those titles I mean if people are going to say they are loyal to typemoon, they have to realize that they've been loyal to tales and godeater also. You do a pretty good job complaining about anime you never even tried a single episode of |
CrackmoreJul 15, 2015 11:55 AM
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FGAU1912 said: laidellent said: Thing is...Type Moon is HUGE lol so it will be quite some time before they actually reach that stage..but yeah,they should try some more variety huge to compere to who I don't want to get into comparisons but they have enough stuff to deal with in the next few years at least(if they think of doing all of them) and I am sure they can find other things to animate during those time. |
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laidellent said: Thing is...Type Moon is HUGE lol so it will be quite some time before they actually reach that stage..but yeah,they should try some more variety It's literally a cash cow for Ufotable but I'm not complaining(loved works such as Tsuki) as I will accept anything by them all day long. |
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ichii_1 said: ^that has nothing nothing to do with this :( even thou overlord is the superior series black1blade said: Umm no, opinions of western fans don't matter XD. Even if they both sell like shit, they fucking sold 40k fate UBW blu rays at $350 each. When the fate series stops rolling in $, then what? death and if they keep using that ugly cg like artstyle like in godeater I guarantee you ufotable will die in 5 years. and if heavens feel is 1 movie XD I'm a laugh my ass off XD XD XD I like the art style and I'm sure a lot of other people do to. I doubt this will sell amazingly but I bet it will be solid. Judging by their current rate of fate adaptations, there are a lot more than 5 years worth of stuff to adapt. That's without Tsukihime and mahoyo. I'm pretty sure this is the artstyle they use just for god eater. It makes sense for the video game adaptations to look more like the video games they came from. I don't think there will be only be 1 HF movie but there might be. This guy said in an interview that he wants to make 1 6 hour movie but that that would be unrealistic. 6 Hours seems like a good length though (in movie format). |
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| Because they're a little studio and can't work on a many series at once like Toei, Production I.G, Madhouse or those big studio that had been around for decades. That being said, even though they only adapt one at a time, they do help other studio doing key animation for many series. |
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ichii_1 said: ^that has nothing nothing to do with this :( even thou overlord is the superior series black1blade said: Umm no, opinions of western fans don't matter XD. Even if they both sell like shit, they fucking sold 40k fate UBW blu rays at $350 each. When the fate series stops rolling in $, then what? death and if they keep using that ugly cg like artstyle like in godeater I guarantee you ufotable will die in 5 years. and if heavens feel is 1 movie XD I'm a laugh my ass off XD XD XD You fail to realize what a big following GE has in japan, It was the best selling game in japan when it was released and from what I remember the sequel was high up there You also fail to realize how much stuff TM still has out there, especially with only part 1 of Mahoyo being released so far, and 2 sequals already announced. Tsukihime is getting completely remained and should be out soon.... Yea Ufotable still has a lot of material to work with if HF is only 1 movie, we'll be salty BUT it will still sell.... although the producer of the show did say in the TM ACE that he was debating whether to make multiple movies... he even thought about making a 6 hour movie at one point, then decided it would be difficult to distribute. So it's unlikely that it will only be one.... then again people believe anything, and are all freaking out about something that was never confirmed nor officially announced. Plus even then, Tales AND GodEater probably funded part of the studios project for them, so I doubt they're losing much.... it's not like they don't do the cutscenes and openings for all those games. They're relationships with those companies are pretty solidified |
KamiCityJul 15, 2015 4:22 PM
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| So I don't get it, is bashing UFO the new thing because some people didn't like UBW? |
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bobzanny said: People are unhappy that a shit-adaptation studio still sells 40k+ disks. While good anime is canceled. So I don't get it, is bashing UFO the new thing because some people didn't like UBW? |
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ExTamplier said: bobzanny said: People are unhappy that a shit-adaptation studio still sells 40k+ disks. While good anime is canceled. So I don't get it, is bashing UFO the new thing because some people didn't like UBW? Refraise that "while anime they believe is good is canceled" because let's be honest, opinions don't dictate what's good or not. |
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KamiCity said: ExTamplier said: People are unhappy that a shit-adaptation studio still sells 40k+ disks. While good anime is canceled. Refraise that "while anime they believe is good is canceled" because let's be honest, opinions don't dictate what's good or not. But Fate/UBW was good. So it deserves it's sales. And it seems that all anime is considered good until it's acutally animated. |
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KamiCity said: ExTamplier said: People are unhappy that a shit-adaptation studio still sells 40k+ disks. While good anime is canceled. Refraise that "while anime they believe is good is canceled" because let's be honest, opinions don't dictate what's good or not. I am pretty sure my phrase is correct. |
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ExTamplier said: KamiCity said: Refraise that "while anime they believe is good is canceled" because let's be honest, opinions don't dictate what's good or not. I am pretty sure my phrase is correct. I'm pretty sure it isn't, since you know, your opinion isn't superior to anyone elses. |
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KamiCity said: bobzanny said: But Fate/UBW was good. So it deserves it's sales. And it seems that all anime is considered good until it's acutally animated. What do you mean? That it seems that most anime while in production can be considered good based upon the right synopsis but once it becomes fully animated people realize it's just a regular anime. Ex:Tokyo Ghoul-premise of a guy getting his life turned upside and basically going to the dark side but the execution is misplaced and the anime went to shit. |
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KamiCity said: ExTamplier said: I am pretty sure my phrase is correct. I'm pretty sure it isn't, since you know, your opinion isn't superior to anyone elses. There are good anime that I didn't like, that are generally good. What's your point? You would not understand, you don't know any other grade scale besides 1:1 |
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Harem_King said: lol at ppl thinking type moon and ufotable are "loyal" to each other its just all about the money, besides key and kyoani were the most "loyal" and look at them now type moon will eventually leave ufotable in the dust and we will continue to get shit like God Eater Hopefully not before a Tsukihime remake to promote the VN remake... |
ExTamplier said: bobzanny said: People are unhappy that a shit-adaptation studio still sells 40k+ disks. While good anime is canceled. So I don't get it, is bashing UFO the new thing because some people didn't like UBW? ayy Godfutoable deservers those 40k numbers |
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ExTamplier said: KamiCity said: I'm pretty sure it isn't, since you know, your opinion isn't superior to anyone elses. There are good anime that I didn't like, that are generally good. What's your point? You would not understand, you don't know any other grade scale besides 1:1 Umm did you even understand why I rephrased your post? That is exactly my point "anime that some people thought was good" was cancelled, not "good anime" since what's good to one could be crap to someone else. Also yea I actually would understand, since you know I've actually studied quite a bit. Grade scales pointless, you realize that right? If they weren't pointless then every 8/10 out there would actually feel like an 8/10. Do you honestly believe that people who rate things 1/10 actually believe it's 1/10? A real 1/10 wouldn't be watched by anyone. |
KamiCityJul 15, 2015 6:29 PM
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KamiCity said: Do you honestly believe that people who rate things 1/10 actually believe it's 1/10? Yes. |
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ichii_1 said: They're about to go out of business with godeater and tales of z bombing. Pretty sure Tales of Zestiria sold 400k on its first week, and figures are still growing. I think it's far from bombing (note I said think, I still need to check the statistics). Turns out I was fairly wrong. While it didn't bomb, it didn't exactly do amazing either. |
YehartJul 15, 2015 7:11 PM
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| Ufotable has now become the golden boy of Anime Studio just because it ride FZ and FSN wave. |
| Ufotable is a sort of jack of all trades studio. While it seems like they have alot of money, they really don't. They just put everything they have into one project, and pray to god it gets them money back. Luckily, most of the time it does. They are still a growing studio, and despite having a wide range of critically acclaimed series, still need to spread there wings a bit. Also, remember what i said about them putting all there money into something, and hoping it works out? Yeah, looks like making God Eater was not a good trade... |
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YEEART said: ichii_1 said: They're about to go out of business with godeater and tales of z bombing. Pretty sure Tales of Zestiria sold 400k on its first week, and figures are still growing. I think it's far from bombing (note I said think, I still need to check the statistics). Turns out I was fairly wrong. While it didn't bomb, it didn't exactly do amazing either. It sold 380kish in it's first week, but that's also partly because it's a ps3 game when everyone is already coming out with ps4 games. It's a late player, and most people didn't really keep their systems for it. I'm fairly certain that it sold higher than any other ps3 game released at the same time though. Relinquish022 said: Also, remember what i said about them putting all there money into something, and hoping it works out? Yeah, looks like making God Eater was not a good trade... What? The show barely has 1 episode out, we don't even have a bluray to judge it by yet. |
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Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
YEEART said: The whole Alisha controversy is going to fuck it up big time though. I imagine it's also going to fail because anime is more niche than video games.ichii_1 said: They're about to go out of business with godeater and tales of z bombing. Pretty sure Tales of Zestiria sold 400k on its first week, and figures are still growing. I think it's far from bombing (note I said think, I still need to check the statistics). Turns out I was fairly wrong. While it didn't bomb, it didn't exactly do amazing either. |
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Klad said: Cause they're slowly realizing they're a shit studio Troll!! |
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| it has to do with the way ufotable produces it's shows. in contrast to most other animation studios ufotable doesn't outsource their episodes to other studios (same goes for GoHands and KyoAni). ufotable still relies on freelance animators for complex action scenes though, as they don't have the necessary animation talent for those. by keeping all the the work in-house, they can ensure a rather consistent production quality, but it's also a heavy burden for the studio. it's quite noticeable with God Eater. I mean just look at how much they struggle to finish even one episode. |
BrobotJul 16, 2015 6:38 PM
Protaku94 said: Because quality over quantity |
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FGAU1912 said: sales do not the only thing that make the franchose a successes He's saying that Ufotable took a bad gamble with GodEater, I'm saying that we don't know if it was a bad gamble yet. We don't know how good it's sales will be. If it's sales are good, then the gamble paid off. Lancehot said: What? It's pretty normal for studios to be paid a fee rather than given an option on future revenue from the show. Gainax famously nearly bankrupted themselves making Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water because they sunk a lot of their own money into its production despite not having any rights to the show. My question is does anyone know if Ufotable have a share of the revenues (due to being co-investors in the production, for example)or are they simply paid by the production committee for their work? It's hard to tell, especially when it comes to ufotable and the companies it works with. In most cases the studio has to pay the owner of the source material for them to have the right to make an anime out of it. With Ufotable though, they get paid by the video game companies to make the cutscenes for their games. So they have a working relationship established already. Namco Bandai might be partially funding the GodEater and Tales animations and splitting the revenue with Ufotable as a way to advertise the game. It could also be that Ufotable acquired the rights to the animation in a contract with them for the cutscenes they made. Hell it could even be that Namco Bandai is entirely funding the animation, will receive all the revenue and just pay Ufotable a large sum for their work. I doubt the last one though, since Aniplex has the rights to distribute it. From what I know with typemoon, they have an even closer relationship which makes me believe they share revenue on the animations. Either that or Ufotable gets all the profit and just pays Typemoon for the rights. There isn't enough information without knowing someone who works for them lol |
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