Toucanbird said: KinsoBlade said: Yeah...Suna looks like he's really enjoying that... Interesting how he never ran away in that scene. |
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G_Spark233 said: Toucanbird said: Yeah...Suna looks like he's really enjoying that... Interesting how he never ran away in that scene. Run where? have you forgotten how huge Takeo was |
kadiroMay 18, 2015 10:12 PM
Fabio-s said: Since after 3 episodes the romance between Takeo and Yamato is done, what else is left in the anime? So in your opinion once a relationship starts then there is no longer any romance? Funny how people say they hate cliches but refuse to accept anything that isn't a cliche. |
| I don't think Suna's gay , honestly what I think is that he just wants his friends to be happy, and that he genuinely enjoy's being around Takeo because he is a genuine nice person , |
sarahloren13 said: Im gonna come out and say it..... I believe with all my heart that Suna is gay! So many things happen that just makes it seem that there's no other way it can possibly be. After a whole bunch of chapters of a pretty decent girl coming along for Suna that totally fit his "Have to not be fake and not talk trash on Gouda" standard Suna still isn't feeling this whole girlfriend thing. And honestly just the scenes where Yamato is gushing about her bf and Suna is just there silently smiling and agreeing, has seriously gotten me convinced. Like sure to a certain point you can say that Sunas just polite by listening to what she has to say, but dang they talk about him ALOT and Suna seems to really enjoy those talks too. Also, the kiss..... I don't care if there was a plastic bag there... that happened and the next day they were chill and Suna got over it so fast. Like huh? Im sorry but you couldn't really get over something like that so fast unless you really didn't mind it in the first place. And if all that that doesn't have you convinced, in chapter 24 even Gouda himself asks Suna if he likes him and he doesn't even deny it! What I think is going on with him is that he doesn't actually know the kind of love he has for the dude. One day hes gonna realize it and then once he gets over the fact that Gouda and him could never become a thing (because those two love birds were made for eachother) I think hes going to find another man that can make him smile and feel happy and end up with him. I seriously would love if the story went that way because I think it would totally fit within this series. This show is already one that breaks many stereotypes and cliches; why not have this awesome character development within the series too? But yea.... Suna's totally 100% gay. Srry not srry. Oh he could be asexual/aromantic/demisexual/demiromantic etc. It's not only hetero and homo, there's lot more in the grey area. |
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TragicRomance said: Oh he could be asexual/aromantic/demisexual/demiromantic etc. It's not only hetero and homo, there's lot more in the grey area. ^^^^^^^ |
| it'd be cool if he was. that would make for a good love triangle, if suna liked takeo. but i don't know, like TragicRomance said, there's the possibility that he's asexual. i think it's too early in the show to tell. |
| Probably not ;) |
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| this kinda explains it |
occipital said: this kinda explains it Oh! man, i can't believe the author went such a length, now i can't see the bromance relationship in the same way. |
kadiro said: occipital said: this kinda explains it Oh! man, i can't believe the author went such a length, now i can't see the bromance relationship in the same way. what does he answer?? |
| i really hate love triangles... so if suna likes takeo then ether suna or yamato has to die |
| I sure hope so. It would add an awesome dynamic. Though, I love him either way. |
| One can always dream. This series would be 10x's better if they went the gay route with Suna. I'm not getting my hopes up though. |
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| I agree. Suna being gay and have feelings for Takeo would make this great show even better. I do not think it will happen, though. But I would like to see how those two best friends, Suna and Takeo, will go in from this point onwards. This show is so atypical for a shoujo series: no bishounen love interest, no female POV but Takeo's, love confession and dating right from the start.... come on, Author-san, spice it up even more!!! |
Cristinaa said: kadiro said: Oh! man, i can't believe the author went such a length, now i can't see the bromance relationship in the same way. what does he answer?? I don't know the translation for this but this was his reply |
| I feel like Suna is an asexual (not aromantic) That would be so cool if he was because (as an asexual myself) I feel like I've related with him a lot! But if he's not (which he is most likely isn't) then I think he hasn't shown any interest in girls yet was because 1. all the ones that have liked him so far (that Takeo's liked) have been mean behind Takeo's back. And a bro sticks up for his bro. 2. All the other girls who have shown interest in him is because they only see his looks, and pretty much don't approach him because he's hot. What if Suna isn't into such shallow girls? Or what if he thinks that he only attracts the shallow girls? Maybe he wants someone that recognizes him for him. That's why he is more open with Yamato and Takeo. They comment on his intelligence or characteristics and not appearances and other such trivial things. Just a guess though. |
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| Dammit. Could just some person with actual Japanese skills lend us 1 minute of his/her life time and translate this manga panel? Is that too much of a demand? xD |
occipital said: Cristinaa said: what does he answer?? I don't know the translation for this but this was his reply Okay found the translation, so what Suna said was, |
| I hope he is I wanna fuck him so bad |
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| Probably |
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| somehow as each chapter progresses in the manga, i have a feeling that suna has something for takeo... it IS that hard to unsee the latest chapter, the way suna looks at takeo...that's not how you look at a 'friend' |
occipital said: occipital said: I don't know the translation for this but this was his reply Okay found the translation, so what Suna said was, Thank you very much! @topic: If Suna was gay (or just confused with his feelings towards Takeo, because he is genuinly kind to him) it would indeed be an AWESOME twist in the story. I really would like to see how they struggle to maintain their friendship. I could even see Yamato play an important role. |
| I really feel Suna is in love with Takeo. That said, I don't want a love triangle to happen but a polyamorous relationship between him, Takeo and Yamato. occipital said: occipital said: I don't know the translation for this but this was his reply Okay found the translation, so what Suna said was, It is just me or he gave a non-answer? |
4shiki said: I really feel Suna is in love with Takeo. That said, I don't want a love triangle to happen but a polyamorous relationship between him, Takeo and Yamato. occipital said: Okay found the translation, so what Suna said was, It is just me or he gave a non-answer? Well, I have no ill intentions. But I have to say that I'm not 100% convinced that this translation is accurate. I can't comprehend Japanese so I have to go with the translation above. Even then, that much I know, there are several meanings to 'suki'. So if Takeo asks Suna if he 'likes' him (remindes me of Happy from FT :D ) it can also mean 'Do you like me as a friend?'. But I don't think that makes much sense either. There are friends for 10 years at least. So why should Takeo ask now? But yes, the answer isn't clear. It's neither yes or no. It sounds more than an excuse. Man, as the anime began to air everybody said 'it's just bromance'. But if the scene above (and others) is translated correctly, the author may still have some big surprise up her sleeve. P.S.: I don't follow the manga so I don't know in which context this scene plays out. |
| oh fuck this swj shit going on here suna is straight not 1000 different tumblr sexualities |
Moodie said: oh fuck this swj shit going on here suna is straight not 1000 different tumblr sexualities You have any proof for your claim? I, myself, can't really believe it either. But I have to admit that the scenes above are quite suspicious. |
Helenus said: me and my bf in HS would have the biggest bromance but we were straight Moodie said: oh fuck this swj shit going on here suna is straight not 1000 different tumblr sexualities You have any proof for your claim? I, myself, can't really believe it either. But I have to admit that the scenes above are quite suspicious. i would jump on top of him when we meet each other, lay on his lap when im tired, all other "gay" things but it was never serious. it made other ppl laugh and it was cool tbh its just a bromance. we even messed around with the same girl lol that some deep shit. but see irl there are alot of bromances that actually look like it goes "too far" idk the state in japan but where im from a bromance is just something fun im using personal experience but as of now i still dont think suna is gay |
Moodie said: Helenus said: me and my bf in HS would have the biggest bromance but we were straight You have any proof for your claim? I, myself, can't really believe it either. But I have to admit that the scenes above are quite suspicious. i would jump on top of him when we meet each other, lay on his lap when im tired, all other "gay" things but it was never serious. it made other ppl laugh and it was cool tbh its just a bromance. we even messed around with the same girl lol that some deep shit. but see irl there are alot of bromances that actually look like it goes "too far" idk the state in japan but where im from a bromance is just something fun im using personal experience but as of now i still dont think suna is gay Of course it is necessary to differ between 'bromance' and 'gay love interest'. Using personal (emmanent) experience is also legitimate. But on the other hand people in this thread brought scans of the manga itself (immanent) to prove that there are - probably - some subtile hints that Suna may have more than friendly feelings for Takeo. So the case is not yet closed. And, to be honest, I evaluate in-manga proof higher than personal experiences. Manga isn't reality after all. |
millefeui said: Lots of homophobes saying "I hope not". What exactly is wrong with him being gay? Nways, being an anime, a work of fiction developed in Japan, I don't have high hopes Suna is gay. But it would be an interesting development for sure. Because it's perversion at its peak and ugly as f*ck. |
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Kirko said: millefeui said: Lots of homophobes saying "I hope not". What exactly is wrong with him being gay? Nways, being an anime, a work of fiction developed in Japan, I don't have high hopes Suna is gay. But it would be an interesting development for sure. Because it's perversion at its peak and ugly as f*ck. Yes, and your average tentacle rape hentai is the epitome of art /irony ;D |
occipital said: occipital said: I don't know the translation for this but this was his reply Okay found the translation, so what Suna said was, occipital said: occipital said: I don't know the translation for this but this was his reply Okay found the translation, so what Suna said was, That translation is incorrect. I'd translate this as: "Does a person that doesn't like you even exist?" So he's downplaying the word "like" here to not mean anything romantic. Though I'm pretty sure he knows what Takeo actually meant. So...it does seem as if the author at least wants to make people question his orientation. though that doesn't mean he's actually gay. My bet is on asexual too. It'd be nice to see more normal asexual characters in shows. They're really hard to find sadly. |
KusattaTamago said: That translation is incorrect. I'd translate this as: "Does a person that doesn't like you even exist?" So he's downplaying the word "like" here to not mean anything romantic. Though I'm pretty sure he knows what Takeo actually meant. So...it does seem as if the author at least wants to make people question his orientation. though that doesn't mean he's actually gay. My bet is on asexual too. It'd be nice to see more normal asexual characters in shows. They're really hard to find sadly. Thank you for your alternative translation. Well, that doesn't really contradict the assumption that Takeo aks Suna if he LIKES him in 'that way'. If you see this sentence in the context, it's quite suspicious. Ad asexual characters: Are there even axesual characters in anime? Even if there is no hetero/gay love interest for Suna in the manga/anime that doesn't necessarily mean that he won't have a relationship in the future. Maybe he is married with children years after the story of Ore Monogatari!! ? I think in most anime sexual orientation just isn't an important part of the story. So they don't show the character's relationships/sexual orientations. I don't think you can call that 'asexual' in a strict sense. |
occipital said: Also, this is sort of out of topic but I have a feeling that Suna will leave Takeo someday though - judging from his sad and nonchalant look he has all the time in the manga. I don't know the particular reason for him to do so but the red/blue ogre story kind of foreshadows it... I have exactly the same feeling. You say it is out of topic somehow. But who knows? Maybe it is indeed related to this topic. The red/blue ogre allegory: the red ogre (or was it the blue one? ;D ) has to sacrifice 'something' to help his friend to find happiness. I can see parallels here. Suna was the matchmaker that was necessary to bring Takeo's relationship with Yamato forwards. There might come a time when Suna's feelings (IF he has feelings for Takeo) might become a problem for their friendship. And maybe they will part ways because of this. That is just my imagination. But yeah, you never know :D ^ The hetero/shoujo-version of the scene above would be that Suna eventually falls in love with Yamato and decides to leave because he is afraid of ruining Takeo's relationship. But I don't think this will happen. Suna never seemed to have romantic feelings for Yamato and Yamato just loves Takeo way too much to cheat :D |
HelenusJun 10, 2015 6:24 PM
TragicRomance said: Oh he could be asexual/aromantic/demisexual/demiromantic etc. It's not only hetero and homo, there's lot more in the grey area. ^^^^ this. I'm straight myself but for the most of time in my life I haven't had a boyfriend, because I don't fall in love very often and I don't want to date guys I just "like". Or I don't want to have a LDR etc (I loved guys that lived in other cities/countries). Maybe Suna is like that too. Maybe Suna thinks relationships are too bothersome, and no need to rush it. I am just like this. |
| Asexuality is much more unlikely than being gay (in manga/anime) in my opinion. |
| New episode today and maybe new hints! One thing I forgot to mention before is right in the opening sequence. Have you ever noticed that when they make this 'King Kong' reference that Takeo (King Kong) is holding Suna (the captured woman) in his palm and not Yamato? Yamato instead is on the air plane (the enemy? :D ). So King Kong is stealing his love interest. But it's Suna. Well, I always found this to be worthy to mention. |
| This is why it's hard to find a good brothers-like relationships in anime. Everytime there's one people consider them gay or something. Wtf is this? |
smelldemon said: This is why it's hard to find a good brothers-like relationships in anime. Everytime there's one people consider them gay or something. Wtf is this? Well,we (the persons, who see a possibility of Suna being gay) already said that we AT THIS POINT (of the anime or manga) do not consider Suna to be actually gay. I myself see the relationship as a strong male bound of friendship. But one shouldn't deny the hints that are immanent in the work itself. We'll wait for further explanations by the mangaka/anime studio. Until this happens no one claims that Suna IS gay. |
Orange-Fish said: I honestly don't see Suna as gay or I see no hints for this yet and i'm caught up with the translated parts of the manga. Like the others, i think its just some real bromance. How far does the translation go? Have you seen the scans (linked in this thread) of the latest issues with the 'suspicious' scenes? If yes, what's your opinion in them particularly? |
| Has no one considered the possibility that he is gay and at the same time not interested in Takeo in that way? Everyone keeps connecting him being gay with him liking Takeo, but those two don't need to be connected. |
brandough said: Has no one considered the possibility that he is gay and at the same time not interested in Takeo in that way? Everyone keeps connecting him being gay with him liking Takeo, but those two don't need to be connected. Good point. I will take this in cosideration. And thanks for sharing this thought. |
Machination said: But seriously, we need more YAOI love in animes! What about...shoujo-ai/yuri? In shounen-ai and yaoi, the relationship is thrown right in your face from the very start. But shoujo-ai and yuri mangaka seem to LOVE dragging out the relationship or just including heavy subtext. T-T IT PISSES ME OFF! I want more shoujo-ai, dammit! XD Shounen-ai is okay too. But I'm a lesbian so I can't relate to it as well. I think it would be interesting if Suna liked Takeo. It would add some drama to the story (although not every good story needs a love triangle). Either way, it's sweet that Suna cares so much about Takeo. I'd love to have a friend that cared about me as much as Suna cares about Takeo... |
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