| He had to be nerfed to give more spot to worms like Akashi |
| I was always under the impression that purple haired one was the weakest, then Kise. |
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| Because he is a Spot up Shooter, if he practice shooting of the dribble he would be unstoppable. He should also learn to post up. |
| Because he is a one trick pony, but overall he's still better than Kise. Kise is above him like 5 mins out of a 40 min game. |
| I love my gurlz |
| Murasakibara has just got height and athleticism whereas Kise can copy the rest but he lacks stamina. Midorama can be shut down so yeah he can be useless at times. |
 All credit goes to Sacred. |
| It all depends on your perspective. To stop Midorima, you either need someone who can predict when he will shoot, like Akashi, or someone who can reach high enough to block his shots, like Kagami, Murasakibara, and maybe Aomine and Kise too. But if Murasakibara had to play vs. Midorima, then the center (Murasakibara) would likely have to mark the Shooting Guard (Midorima) at the three point line. This might stop Midorima from making threes, but it would also weaken Mrasakibara's team because they would have a much reduced presence closer to the basket. You see, it's all about perspective, really. |
| "There's no shame in falling down... true shame is to not stand up again!" "Aah? Of course I won't miss!" "My blood tastes like Iron." "Run through the tape in life! Never give up! Run through the tape!" |
| Because only being able to accurately shoot doesn't correlate with how well you dribble and other aspects like speed. Therefore, he's weaker in 1 vs 1 which is what Knb is all about. |
| Midorima can be stopped by Kagami's super jump, Akashi's EE and Murasakibara's agility, blocking sense and height. But I can see him giving Aomine and Kise problems (outside of zone and PC respectively), especially with his new combo with Takao. Something interesting to note that the anime left out:  |
TorribleJun 13, 2015 9:16 PM
| Oh Midorima is definitely not just the product of practicing a lot. You can see flashes of his athleticism throughout his games. It's just overshadowed by his shooting ability. It's probably just because he only does one thing (even though that one thing is better than anyone ever, in reality or fiction). The Generation of Miracles are probably similar in skill, but it's how they put their abilities to use and their matchup in each game that determines who is better, at least in that specific game. So basically, Midorima's rank among them is a matter of perspective. |
| Cause thats all he has. If you block it, its GG. Everyone knows who the strongest is tho. It goes Aomine > Akashi > Kise > Midorima >Murasakibara |
Karnalainn said: Yes, if you were referring to the Aomine who stopped training.Darkcoo said: Akashi > AomineCause thats all he has. If you block it, its GG. Everyone knows who the strongest is tho. It goes Aomine > Akashi > Kise > Midorima >Murasakibara Aomine > Akashi > Musarakibara > Kise (with PC) > Midorima It's clear why Midorima is regarded as the weakest, because he's a pure shooter. While he may gain a lot of points for the team, 1v1 I wouldn't say he's the greatest. |
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| This is just my opinion but I've always felt that Kise is the second strongest, coming right after Akashi, due to his incredible growth speed. (At time of 3rd season) We've seen him plunked by aomine before but if there's another rematch I cant really see him losing. And I also see Murasakibara coming in last instead of Midorima, we've never seen him in the zone before. |
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Blitzkriag said: Do you remember the scene where Aomine won over Kagami in a not-so-serious match? For the sports shoes. Aomine is growing again at a really fast rate, now that he has started his training again, which he had halted back during the second year of his middle school. A second year middle school level Aomine won against first year high school Kise.This is just my opinion but I've always felt that Kise is the second strongest, coming right after Akashi, due to his incredible growth speed. (At time of 3rd season) We've seen him plunked by aomine before but if there's another rematch I cant really see him losing. And I also see Murasakibara coming in last instead of Midorima, we've never seen him in the zone before. Nor did Midorima got into the zone. Murasakibara got both height and speed, and he's got technique and explosive power too. I like Midorima more, but Murasakibara totally owns in a 1v1. Remember how Murasakibara got from one side of the goal to another faster than Kagami in their match? Dude can jump, can run, can attack, and defend. |
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| I wondered about this too when someone mentioned that Midorima is the weakest earlier this season. The thing is everyone is basing this on a 1 vs 1 situation, in which if you stop Midorima's shot, then you just flat-out stop him. The way I was seeing it was from a team perspective. Midorima's skillset is hands down one of the best assets you can have on your team. So from a 1 vs 1 situation, Midorima is probably the least effective one, but I think he's the one you'd want first or second for building for a team. |
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j0x said: or if he cannot do ball handling then just make Midorima use more screens like what Reggie Miller did in the NBA Elevator door play please! That'd be way too awesome! I still freak out in excitement every time I see that play ran successfully for Curry or anyone else. |
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j0x said: or if he cannot do ball handling then just make Midorima use more screens like what Reggie Miller did in the NBA stop bringing NBA into the discussion, you're making this series look normal as a result |
All credit goes to Sacred. |
| He's the weakest in the 1-on-1 match ups, but I think him being one of the first to lose to Kuroko/Kagami is just a necessary part of writing this kind of story. If you ask people what they think basketball superpowers would be, the first things they say after height (and you say that's not superpower) would be jumping and Three pointers. Kuroko's goal and the reason he's got such a vendetta against the GoM is to prove that team play and hard work is the best way to win at basketball. Kise already had the desire to play with Kuroko, and Midorima's strongest ability being his threes sets up the match between jumping and three point shots very early on, and drives home the point that this is not your average basketball story. Midorima's threes can only be amplified by his teammates, so Kuroko showing the strength in numbers sets up the development in Midorima's game. That development is why we see him playing so often in the series and why he'd get put into the third place game. |
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ibear said: He's the weakest in the 1-on-1 match ups, but I think him being one of the first to lose to Kuroko/Kagami is just a necessary part of writing this kind of story. If you ask people what they think basketball superpowers would be, the first things they say after height (and you say that's not superpower) would be jumping and Three pointers. Kuroko's goal and the reason he's got such a vendetta against the GoM is to prove that team play and hard work is the best way to win at basketball. Kise already had the desire to play with Kuroko, and Midorima's strongest ability being his threes sets up the match between jumping and three point shots very early on, and drives home the point that this is not your average basketball story. Midorima's threes can only be amplified by his teammates, so Kuroko showing the strength in numbers sets up the development in Midorima's game. That development is why we see him playing so often in the series and why he'd get put into the third place game. Exactly. There's a reason why 3/4 of the teams in the final four, Seirin, Shutoku and Kaijo, all played each other early in the series. They had enough time to rebound from their losses and integrate their GoM players better into their team's game plan. |
| According to the databooks by the author; Akashi is the strongest, then its a tie between Aomine and Midorima. Later is Murasaki and then Kise. However on 1v1 he is probably the weakest of all while Aomine is the best one |
| Because he's an uke. Obvious! |
Blitzkriag said: This is just my opinion but I've always felt that Kise is the second strongest, coming right after Akashi, due to his incredible growth speed. (At time of 3rd season) We've seen him plunked by aomine before but if there's another rematch I cant really see him losing. And I also see Murasakibara coming in last instead of Midorima, we've never seen him in the zone before. I'm pretty sure Aomine broke Kise's foot in a match between the two. |
Ckan said: Because he's an uke. Obvious! No, he tops. Blitzkriag said: This is just my opinion but I've always felt that Kise is the second strongest, coming right after Akashi, due to his incredible growth speed. (At time of 3rd season) We've seen him plunked by aomine before but if there's another rematch I cant really see him losing. And I also see Murasakibara coming in last instead of Midorima, we've never seen him in the zone before. I agree with Kise being second strongest. Issue is that doesn't last long. As for Mukkun < Mido? No. Mursasakibara's issue is his personality not his playing skills. He would be great but Midorima is much smarter and dedicated. onewinged789 said: mayukachan said: Because only being able to accurately shoot doesn't correlate with how well you dribble and other aspects like speed. Therefore, he's weaker in 1 vs 1 which is what Knb is all about. this anime is not even close to being about 1v1 at all. the whole point of rakuzan vs seirin is to show that teamwork is the most important factor in a game. the talk has been about teamwork pretty much the whole time. and tbh it doesn't make sense to compare a shooting guard to another position. midorima is simply the best shooting guard. the problem is with shutoku. their teamwork is nowhere as good as seirin. lmao "teamwork" this show lacks this. Seinen isn't about teamwork. It's about how good Kagami (and Kuroko) is. |
mayukachan said: lmao "teamwork" this show lacks this. Seinen isn't about teamwork. It's about how good Kagami (and Kuroko) is. Teamwork doesn't mean every player has to be on the same level. Seirin play run and gun. Most of their plays involve movement and multiple passes. They screen. They encourage one another. They strategize together. Even their defensive formation (stealth-fullcourt-man-to-man-defense) requires them to work together and constantly switch marks. What more teamwork do you expect? |
TorribleJun 15, 2015 9:46 PM
| I always thought Kuroko is actually the weakest one. |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
GrandTemplar said: Because he doesn't have good footwork? He probably has really good footwork. He just never needs or shows it. There were times like when Kagami guarded him up close and when he did that fast break play in the game against Akashi where he looked really solid. Plus, no one has mentioned how he's BLOCKED KAGAMI MULTIPLE TIMES. |
Zapredon said: I always thought Kuroko is actually the weakest one. The 6th man is always the MVP. Just look at the NBA finals this year. Kuroko = reality. |
| Anybody else notice that Midorima's shooting with his right hand in the Season 3 picture on Mal? |
| "There's no shame in falling down... true shame is to not stand up again!" "Aah? Of course I won't miss!" "My blood tastes like Iron." "Run through the tape in life! Never give up! Run through the tape!" |
idungoof said: Zapredon said: I always thought Kuroko is actually the weakest one. The 6th man is always the MVP. Just look at the NBA finals this year. Kuroko = reality. The 6th man has the right to be called the 'best' guy |
| Because he is much less versatile and quite slow. His shots are amazing but they take a lot of time to perform, not to mention that the ball actually has to get to him first. He is skilled but not as skilled in other things, he's like a canon, takes time to load and isn't as moveable or as fast as a rifle |
| People only assume he's weak because plot demands that we cant watch a full match with Midorima's team actually winning. I wanted him to win against Akashi but we know that's a stretch at that point in time But seriously though: Zeus4President said: Because he is a one trick pony, but overall he's still better than Kise. Kise is above him like 5 mins out of a 40 min game. I agree it's because he's one trick pony. What I dont agree with though is that he aint better than Kise. We've seen Kise being able to last more than 5 mins in his Perfect Copy through determination. The biggest powerup Midorima had was his team play with Takao. In a one-on-one, Kise would see pass through Midorima's fakes and defense with Emperor Eye and Aomine's speed respectively (although I'm not sure if Kise can pass Midorima's defense with his own skill, we havent found out. So you may OR may not have a point about being better overall, we cant make that claim yet). So yeah, Midorin is a one trick pony but from his losses I'm glad his character has improved alot. |
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