Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV) 2nd Season Episode 7 Discussion

WAD1992 said:


nope :)
and u can "circle jerk" about it all u want its STILL gonna be wrong.
thats all im going to say ~~~

mira-nyan said:


Me doesn't get.

Guilek said:

Maybe we will see that in the next episode.

Shrimperor said:

changed it xD

damastah said:

-snip-

TrueKirei said:

*high fives back*
I see you're already hyped for Heaven's Feel
Let's get this show done with so we can move on to the best route!

Shrimperor said:

[IMG]http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/27633790/images/1381213784706.gif[/ IMG]

mira-nyan said:


But Archer is Shirou. Therefore he is the MC...

pjs312 said:
They could

nocorras said:


It's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about so w/e. Have fun being ignorant I guess.

Guilek said:

I love his sort of hunter/soldier/mercenary's clothes:


And personally I find important for Shirou characterization to explain how a Shirou became Emiya Archer.

HeroKenzan said:

Is that a sequel?Illya looks old

MostRealArcher said:
Muira: "Archer is the perfect man"

a perfect man would not be regretting his life to the point of killing his past self that has close to zero % chance of changing his current life.

also you need to set up and define a character before you can juxtapose it muira....

mira-nyan said:


Well I don't know what DOA stands for to begin with...

And, man, spoilahs.

Guilek said:

The spoiler gif is still there.

astroprogs said:

Not gonna lie, i hoped they'd do exactly this.

damastah said:

Dead or Alive and spoilers, not really, people here have been pulling the Archer=Shirou card(you included, Mira-san) so I figure a little "spoiling" won't hurt.

damastah said:

Dead or Alive and spoilers, not really, people here have been pulling the Archer=Shirou card(you include, Mira-san) so I figure a little "spoiling" won't hurt.

Epicenter said:
Welp Shinji touched the queen, his fate is sealed.

fst said:


motherfucking spoilers yo

also when you cut it like that, it looks like he was showing off but then fucked up and accidentally stabbed himself.



You're just now realizing that it's pointless to engage him?



I thought that was a pilot suit

A mercenary suit is a long ass trench coat as dark as the wearer's heart.

pjs312 said:


So did I. Maybe they'll do it on the Blu-rays?

chat77 said:

Not really Damastah,Certain people still think Saber and Archer are the true MCs ,ignore the rest...

mira-nyan said:


But he literally said

Heroic Spirit EMIYA. It's not a spoiler anymore...

mira-nyan said:
And, man, spoilahs.

chat77 said:
Not really Damastah,Certain people still think Saber and Archer are the true MCs ,ignore the rest...

mira-nyan said:





UBW GUYZ. Rejoice, Fai jinxed it! *grabs popcorn*

chat77 said:


Not really Damastah,Certain people still think Saber and Archer are the true MCs ,ignore the rest...

WAD1992 said:


no, we just think that certain characters are 1D as FUK and others deserve more exploration ..... but hey , lets fuk every character up so we can talk about shirou's complex over and over and over again ......... that would be progressive and helpful huh ??

mira-nyan said:


They're the crystallization of Shirou's ideals. So I'm sure they count as MCs.

WAD1992 said:


no, we just think that certain characters are 1D as FUK and others deserve more exploration ..... but hey , lets fuk every character up so we can talk about shirou's complex over and over and over again ......... that would be progressive and helpful huh ??

Darkmoq said:

Also, if Archer is really so fed up with humanity why couldn't he just refuse to carry out his duty and just let the human race burn?

mira-nyan said:


Rin isn't a queen, dude. And, wow, are you gonna be disappointed at the end of this.

fst said:


u people really do have no arguments,
i myself have never seen NOT ONE FUKING ARGUMENT coming from dis GUY^^^
its all "oh its pointless, u dont know shit ~~"
but have fun circle jerking about it i guess ^^

mira-nyan said:


I meant spoilers for that series....*facepalm*

Epicenter said:


I almost didn't recognize you with that avatar. You just can't accept Rin's greatness lol. Anyways, I doubt Shinji is going to end up victorious, plus he got punched in the fate, so I'm already quasi happy.

damastah said:

The point of UBW again, blabla

WAD1992 said:


no, we just think that certain characters are 1D as FUK and others deserve more exploration ..... but hey , lets fuk every character up so we can talk about shirou's complex over and over and over again ......... that would be progressive and helpful huh ??

astroprogs said:

Probably not. A big change like that would've been prioritized for the TV version.

Guilek said:

They already said earlier that Guardians have no free will.

chat77 said:


Bruh....UBW SHIROU WITHOUT HIS MONOLOGUES WILL APPEAR LIKE 1D.I have no problem with AO but it seems the most important monologues are suffering due to added content.

Darkmoq said:
I thought this was a solid 3/5.

That Lancer punch was awesome. I'm surprised Shinji had any teeth left.

I'm really trying to figure UBW Saber out. I realize that unlike in Fate, her role in the narrative is more sidelined but that doesn't have to mean inconsistent or silly.
First let me say something positive...I thought it was touching last episode when she chose to honor her old pledge to Shirou despite being weak and masterless. However, after she formed her new pact her concern for Shirou became borderline retarded. She's honor bound as a knight (and incentivized as a grail-seeker) to protect her master right? And that would be Rin. It shouldn't even be a hard choice for her as she already agreed last episode to stand aside in the confrontation between Shirou and Archer. Btw, that's after failing as a servant and letting a depleted, masterless Archer kidnap her master, Rin. Anyway, back to this episode. Why in the fuck did she trust Lancer, a rival servant--who at best is just 1 command seal away from enemy servant-- to rescue her master? How does Saber's morbid curiosity about the impending Shirou v Archer bloodbath supersede her duty?
I could chalk it up to just be another 'convenient' plot point if Lancer brought Rin back smoothly but it's downright idiotic when this obvious oversight causes the plan to fail. One can only wonder what would have happened if Saber was there with Lancer. For starters, she'd probably castrate Shinji and it wouldn't take one of Rin's CS to do it.

If you're Rin, Lancer's defiance is not exactly confidence-inspiring. 'No I refuse to kill this helpless young lady. Psst, don't worry Rin, he'd have to part with one of his 50 spare command spells!'
How sick would it have been if he stabbed himself to avoid having to kill her. I was betting on that actually.

Most time travel plots don't make sense when you break them down. The smart thing to do is enjoy the ride and not over-think it. In this case i'm just trying to figure out how deep I'm supposed to think about it. Archer believes killing Shirou miiiight prevent him from ever being a Guardian, is there a way to test it?
I mean does he have memories of fighting a version of himself years ago? If Shirou cut off his pinky would Archer lose a pinky? And if it didn't then it would seem like the Universe saved a back up copy of the original Archer and therefore it wouldn't change anything if Archer kills Shirou.

Also, if Archer is really so fed up with humanity why couldn't he just refuse to carry out his duty and just let the human race burn? In VN Fate they explained how ordinary heroic spirits don't retain their memories. Do they ever explain why Archer can retain his enough to become jaded?


Btw, what is the "Answer" that people are referring to? Is that something from the VN? Is that even from this episode? Thanks.