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Apr 27, 2015 10:11 AM

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I don't think so
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RobertFjall said:
Absolutely not!
"Don't think, feel!"




Autocrat said:
Hitler was good, objectively.
Apr 27, 2015 10:13 AM

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Immahnoob said:
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Appearance & capabilities are different thing, you are using stereotypes which might be true or false, which has nothing to do with how people actually look.
I don't like black people because they're colored black/brown.

So what do we do now?


liking and having an attraction to them are different things.You can be friends with someone and not have any attraction to them.
Apr 27, 2015 10:15 AM

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It's not racist...you can't help what you're attracted to or not.
That being said, it always plucks my nerves when guys say "You're really hot for a Black girl." or even worse, they just HAVE to know my complete heritage to justify their attraction. "I KNEW you weren't ALL Black cause you have Caucasian (or Middle Eastern) features." Like c'mon, breh.

Apr 27, 2015 10:17 AM

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rjimenez said:

liking and having an attraction to them are different things.You can be friends with someone and not have any attraction to them.


I'm your friend im sorry I just don't find your facial structure or skin colour attractive I prefer white girls facial structures and skin tone. I'm not saying you're looks are inferior to my white girl friend but...I kind of am.

you may not be racist but your brain is.
Apr 27, 2015 10:18 AM

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rjimenez said:
Immahnoob said:
I don't like black people because they're colored black/brown.

So what do we do now?


liking and having an attraction to them are different things.You can be friends with someone and not have any attraction to them.
My opinion makes a race inferior to another because of its color, so it's racist.
MaiTai said:
It's not racist...you can't help what you're attracted to or not.
Yeah, and being born with a malformation is not abnormal, because you can't help it.

It doesn't work that way.

People, just learn that "racism" isn't always negative.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
Apr 27, 2015 10:18 AM

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Immahnoob said:
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Only finding people of your own race attractive is not the same as finding one particular aspect associated with one particular race unattractive.
You still find one inferior to the other.

Because we've always associated negative views to "racism", now everyone is acting exactly like a sheep, kekekekek.


Because the term was originates in negative views those negative views/associations are part of the definition of that term. It's not sheep-ish to follow the definitions of the term.

As long as the 'inferiority' you are talking about has no practical consequences that bother or harm the 'victims' it's pretty stupid to use the term racism considering the history of how the term has always been used. And only delusional egomaniacs would imply that their preferences for attraction have generally negative consequences on whoever they don't find attractive.

I'd also argue that having 'attractiveness' in your set of criteria for assessing the general worth (inferiority/superiority) of someone is not a given, but I don't even think that's necessary to show that this thread is stupid.
I probably regret this post by now.
Apr 27, 2015 10:20 AM

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Spooky_Love said:
rjimenez said:

liking and having an attraction to them are different things.You can be friends with someone and not have any attraction to them.


I'm your friend im sorry I just don't find your facial structure or skin colour attractive I prefer white girls facial structures and skin tone. I'm not saying you're looks are inferior to my white girl friend but...I kind of am.

you may not be racist but your brain is.


Being attracted to someone & thinking someone has superior/inferior genes are different things, you can try to present it that way all you want.
Apr 27, 2015 10:22 AM

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I, for some reason, can't feel attracted to black women... I don't understand why myself, as I don't think of me as being a racist person :(
Apr 27, 2015 10:22 AM

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rjimenez said:

Being attracted to someone & thinking someone has superior/inferior genes are different things


Its not. If you are attracted to one thing and not the other in your brain the thing you are attracted to has qualities you like whilst the thing you're not attracted to has qualities you don't like. The things you like are superior in your mind to things you don't like, thats why you like one thing and not the other. you don't have a politically correct brain.
Apr 27, 2015 10:23 AM

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Spooky_Love said:
rjimenez said:

Being attracted to someone & thinking someone has superior/inferior genes are different things


Its not. If you are attracted to one thing and not the other in your brain the thing you are attracted to has qualities you like whilst the thing you're not attracted to has qualities you don't like. The things you like are superior in your mind to things you don't like, thats why you like one thing and not the other. you don't have a politically correct brain.


2vague4me, but it sounds like an opinion to me
Apr 27, 2015 10:24 AM

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Higashi_no_Kaze said:

Because the term was originates in negative views those negative views/associations are part of the definition of that term. It's not sheep-ish to follow the definitions of the term.
It's irrational though, because the definition does not claim it's always negative. Objectively, the average black person is a better runner than an average white runner. That's inferiority on the part of the white runner.

Is it racist to claim this? Yes. Is it wrong? No. Not even ethically.
Higashi_no_Kaze said:
As long as the 'inferiority' you are talking about has no practical consequences that bother or harm the 'victims' it's pretty stupid to use the term racism considering the history of how the term has always been used. And only delusional egomaniacs would imply that their preferences for attraction have generally negative consequences on whoever they don't find attractive.
That's your opinion on definitions. By the way, you can hurt someone by telling them you don't find them attractive because of any reason.
Higashi_no_Kaze said:
I'd also argue that having 'attractiveness' in your set of criteria for assessing the general worth (inferiority/superiority) of someone is not a given, but I don't even think that's necessary to show that this thread is stupid.
You should argue it, because I don't see how it would work out for you.




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Apr 27, 2015 10:24 AM

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Higashi_no_Kaze said:

As long as the 'inferiority' you are talking about has no practical consequences that bother or harm the 'victims' it's pretty stupid to use the term racism


So if I have a house of KKK stuff and really don't like black people, as long as I don't do anything racist outside my house in public, its not racist?

rjimenez said:

2vague4me, but it sounds like an opinion to me


Not really.

If I have two cars for sale and I need to buy one, one is red other is blue. Now if my favorite colour was red and I liked the red car but disliked the blue car I have judged in my mind for the red car to be superior. If I didn't I would have an equal liking for both and could pick either and it wouldn't matter.

When things are equal there is no favorites.
Apr 27, 2015 10:26 AM

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OP I'm confused, explain to me the difference between racism/racist and discrimination.
Apr 27, 2015 10:28 AM

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Spooky_Love said:
Higashi_no_Kaze said:

As long as the 'inferiority' you are talking about has no practical consequences that bother or harm the 'victims' it's pretty stupid to use the term racism


So if I have a house of KKK stuff and really don't like black people, as long as I don't do anything racist outside my house in public, its not racist?

rjimenez said:

2vague4me, but it sounds like an opinion to me


Not really.

If I have two cars for sale and I need to buy one, one is red other is blue. Now if my favorite colour was red and I liked the red car but disliked the blue car I have judged in my mind for the red car to be superior. If I didn't I would have an equal liking for both and could pick either and it wouldn't matter.

When things are equal there is no favorites.


People chose cars & mates for different reasons. still an opinion.
Apr 27, 2015 10:28 AM

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Astros said:
OP I'm confused, explain to me the difference between racism/racist and discrimination.
There really is no difference, discrimination can also be unintentional but negligibly harmful.
People chose cars & mates for different reasons. still an opinion.
If it's based on the scenario that the OP is giving, it's inherently racist. Trying to use the "subjectivity card" when talking about definitions. Ok.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
Apr 27, 2015 10:32 AM

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PrettyJ said:
I, for some reason, can't feel attracted to black women... I don't understand why myself, as I don't think of me as being a racist person :(


Tell me, do I subconsciously think of black people as being inferior to me?

That's likely as I'm a narcissistic shit myself.
Apr 27, 2015 10:34 AM

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Immahnoob said:
Astros said:
OP I'm confused, explain to me the difference between racism/racist and discrimination.
There really is no difference, discrimination can also be unintentional but negligibly harmful.
People chose cars & mates for different reasons. still an opinion.
If it's based on the scenario that the OP is giving, it's inherently racist. Trying to use the "subjectivity card" when talking about definitions. Ok.


Made up definitions aren't definitions in my book.
Apr 27, 2015 10:34 AM

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mayukachan said:
Not at all. Sexual/romantic preferences do not have to do with being "racist".
Apr 27, 2015 10:36 AM

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Of course it could be racist, if the only reason is because of their race.
Apr 27, 2015 10:38 AM

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rjimenez said:
Made up definitions aren't definitions in my book.
Every definition is made up, and these definitions are in the dictionary too.




Autocrat said:
Hitler was good, objectively.
Apr 27, 2015 10:39 AM

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I mean, I got over the idea that what I look like isn't the MAL golden standard of attractiveness.
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To clarify my earlier statement, it's not racist to simply not have attraction to certain races, but for the reason to be something like "They're too ghetto/uneducated/enter stereotype here" then yeah. That's racist.

Apr 27, 2015 10:40 AM

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If you're not attracted to a certain race because of its race, then you are racist.

I'll say it again, it's unintentional and harmless, that means by most ethical views it is not wrong.




Autocrat said:
Hitler was good, objectively.
Apr 27, 2015 10:43 AM

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Oh, by the way, you can be racist even with your own race.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
Apr 27, 2015 10:44 AM

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Spooky_Love said:
Higashi_no_Kaze said:

As long as the 'inferiority' you are talking about has no practical consequences that bother or harm the 'victims' it's pretty stupid to use the term racism


So if I have a house of KKK stuff and really don't like black people, as long as I don't do anything racist outside my house in public, its not racist?


Again, talking about whether an individual, or an act is racist are two different things. An individual can be racist but never actually do anything racist. Also in your example depending on how hostile that house is decorated it may very well have harmful consequences.

Immahnoob said:
Higashi_no_Kaze said:

Because the term was originates in negative views those negative views/associations are part of the definition of that term. It's not sheep-ish to follow the definitions of the term.
It's irrational though, because the definition does not claim it's always negative. Objectively, the average black person is a better runner than an average white runner. That's inferiority on the part of the white runner.
Is it racist to claim this? Yes. Is it wrong? No. Not even ethically.


Pretty much all the definitions I found did. Or more like it depends on whether you see thinking of your race as superior and other races as inferior as something negative, which you don't judging from your posts in this thread.

I'm not educated enough in biology to validate whether that is a prejudice, because of environmental reasons, or genetic so I can't really comment on that running part.

I'll just say that there is a difference between thinking a race as a whole is inferior/superior or thinking that there differences between them in some very specific aspects, especially when it's just something personal like attraction.

Higashi_no_Kaze said:
As long as the 'inferiority' you are talking about has no practical consequences that bother or harm the 'victims' it's pretty stupid to use the term racism considering the history of how the term has always been used. And only delusional egomaniacs would imply that their preferences for attraction have generally negative consequences on whoever they don't find attractive.
That's your opinion on definitions. By the way, you can hurt someone by telling them you don't find them attractive because of any reason.

Well, yeah, but saying 'I don't find you attractive.' is not racist. If you go out of your way to emphasize that you think so because of their race, it's a different story. But as long as you can imagine finding a black albino with white skin attractive, it's not really the race you dislike. You say you don't like them because their skin is brown or black, but is there a specific shade where you draw the limit? Extremely tanned people can be just as brown as (half-africans). I think it's pretty hard to argue that preference for skincolor is inherently related to race when you think of albinos and mixed race offspring.

Higashi_no_Kaze said:
I'd also argue that having 'attractiveness' in your set of criteria for assessing the general worth (inferiority/superiority) of someone is not a given, but I don't even think that's necessary to show that this thread is stupid.
You should argue it, because I don't see how it would work out for you.


No thanks, I know you'd disagree and I don't want to waste anymore time on CD, I have to get my balcony plants ready for tomorrow's storm.
I probably regret this post by now.
Apr 27, 2015 10:46 AM

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I find all races attractive. So I dunno. If you're attractive, you're attractive. Your color doesn't change that.

But of course like anything, it comes to tastes. Like food. Some people eat things that others don't. It doesn't hurt anyone though.
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YorKeY said:
My penis doesn't even go up a centimeter when talking about black women, it may only go up half an inch when talking about white women, but if we are talking about Hispanic or Asian women, then that's a whole other story.


It's something more like: white>asian>hispanic>black for me.
Apr 27, 2015 10:47 AM

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MaiTai said:
it's not racist to simply not have attraction to certain races


It is going by the definition of racism.

"the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races."

Judging all women or men of a certain race unattractive is viewing their attractiveness and appearance inferior to your preferred races aesthetics. As I said if we didn't view things in competition with each other and view certain things superior or inferior in our own minds there would be literally no preferences, no favorites.

If you single out a whole race of people on their looks its racism.

Is it wrong? no.
Apr 27, 2015 10:55 AM

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Higashi_no_Kaze said:
Pretty much all the definitions I found did.
There are a lot of dictionaries, a few are really trusted, on the Internet, you can find three definitions that are different. None of them talk about "negativity" actually, you associate that to it.
Higashi_no_Kaze said:
Or more like it depends on whether you see thinking of your race as superior and other races as inferior as something negative, which you don't judging from your posts in this thread.
This argument depends on the idea of racism being always negative, which I have yet to see proven.

" Linguistically, as the word is a general abstraction that does not in and of itself connote a great deal of positive or negative meaning without additional context (i.e., "racism" = noun of action/condition regarding "race"), its definition and semantics are not entirely settled. Nonetheless, the term is commonly used, often negatively as a pejorative (e.g., "racist"), and is associated with race-based prejudice, violence, dislike, discrimination, or oppression."
Higashi_no_Kaze said:
I'll just say that there is a difference between thinking a race as a whole is inferior/superior or thinking that there differences between them in some very specific aspects, especially when it's just something personal like attraction.
At this point you're simply not getting the point.
Higashi_no_Kaze said:
But as long as you can imagine finding a black albino with white skin attractive, it's not really the race you dislike. You say you don't like them because their skin is brown or black, but is there a specific shade where you draw the limit? Extremely tanned people can be just as brown as (half-africans). I think it's pretty hard to argue that preference for skincolor is inherently related to race when you think of albinos and mixed race offspring.
You're forgetting "race" itself is deemed as "pseudoscientific" when talking about humans. So I'm basing this on phenotypes. A "black albino" isn't black anymore.

You're also trying to nitpick here, there are differences between something like being black and having a tan.
Higashi_no_Kaze said:
No thanks, I know you'd disagree and I don't want to waste anymore time on CD, I have to get my balcony plants ready for tomorrow's storm.
If you don't enjoy debate then why engage into it?




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Hitler was good, objectively.
Apr 27, 2015 10:56 AM

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Spooky_Love said:
MaiTai said:
it's not racist to simply not have attraction to certain races


It is going by the definition of racism.

"the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races."

Judging all women or men of a certain race unattractive is viewing their attractiveness and appearance inferior to your preferred races aesthetics. As I said if we didn't view things in competition with each other and view certain things superior or inferior in our own minds there would be literally no preferences, no favorites.

If you single out a whole race of people on their looks its racism.

Is it wrong? no.


If someone's not attracted to a race because they believe others are superior? Yeah, racism. if someone's not attracted to a race because it doesn't make their heart flutter, dick twitch, or pussy pulse, it's not racism.

Racism is a social construct not a physical one.

That's like saying someone who is gay is sexist. It really doesn't make sense.

Apr 27, 2015 10:59 AM

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No, I personally am less attracted to asian people, but I've got nothing against them
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Apr 27, 2015 10:59 AM

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No it's just personal interests.
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MaiTai said:
If someone's not attracted to a race because they believe others are superior? Yeah, racism. if someone's not attracted to a race because it doesn't make their heart flutter, dick twitch, or pussy pulse, it's not racism.

Racism is a social construct not a physical one.

That's like saying someone who is gay is sexist. It really doesn't make sense.
You do think them inferior because you're not attracted to them if the scenario is race. So it makes sense.
Milky_way1886 said:
No, I personally am less attracted to asian people, but I've got nothing against them
KamSung said:
No it's just personal interests.
It doesn't have to be "harmful discrimination" for it to be "discrimination".




Autocrat said:
Hitler was good, objectively.
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I am generally attracted to <insert physical characteristic here> <=== Not racist.

I will never date <insert race here> <=== racist.
Apr 27, 2015 11:10 AM

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in most cases no because you're not calling the features of that race inferior you're just saying that you dont personally find them as attractive as another. if you were to go and say that one race is less sexually attractive than another its racist, but if you are saying that you personally find features common in one race more attractive it isnt
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MaiTai said:

If someone's not attracted to a race because they believe others are superior? Yeah, racism. if someone's not attracted to a race because it doesn't make their heart flutter, dick twitch, or pussy pulse, it's not racism.


If someone doesn't find a certain race of people attractive because of how that race looks aesthetically they consider other races physical attributes superior so its racism. Its discriminating taste based solely on race looks.
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Jessicakes said:
you're not calling the features of that race inferior you're just saying that you dont personally find them as attractive as another.


Thats a contradiction.

If I prefer tea over coffee its because mentally I find tea more agreeable, superior regardless of how politically correct a person I am. To have preference is to find something superior in taste to another, otherwise none of us would have favorites.
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MrOtakuSan said:
I am generally attracted to <insert physical characteristic here> <=== Not racist.
This is true to an extent, but "races" have specific physical characteristics unique or rather, more prevalent to them.

It's unrelated to the thread though.




Autocrat said:
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Apr 27, 2015 11:19 AM

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It is yes.

There are millions of black people, are you honestly going to say it's not the skin colour that's the cause of not being attracted to them?

Just look at the reasons given on this thread for why people don't find black people attractive. Facial shape, aesthetics etc. Many black people share the same aesthetics as white people, and here's a list of people to show you. Unless you don't fancy black people because they all look the same, which is stereotyping and a form of racism.











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I'm a guy and I can imagine buttfucking another guy. I don't find the thought repulsive, and I can even imagine kissing another man.
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Well, technically, most of what we declare to be "black people" aren't really black.

They're nuances of brown.




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Spooky_Love said:
Jessicakes said:
you're not calling the features of that race inferior you're just saying that you dont personally find them as attractive as another.


Thats a contradiction.

If I prefer tea over coffee its because mentally I find tea more agreeable, superior regardless of how politically correct a person I am. To have preference is to find something superior in taste to another, otherwise none of us would have favorites.


but if you accept its purely just what you personally prefer, you are leaving open the idea that others might find it just as attractive as features in other races or even more attractive. you're not calling those features inferior
Apr 27, 2015 11:26 AM

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yes, it is. But being "racist" doesn't make something wrong.
Apr 27, 2015 11:30 AM

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If they are hot, yes
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Jessicakes said:
Spooky_Love said:


Thats a contradiction.

If I prefer tea over coffee its because mentally I find tea more agreeable, superior regardless of how politically correct a person I am. To have preference is to find something superior in taste to another, otherwise none of us would have favorites.


but if you accept its purely just what you personally prefer, you are leaving open the idea that others might find it just as attractive as features in other races or even more attractive. you're not calling those features inferior
Contradictory once more. You can be racist without expressing it.




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No its not racism because its not judging someone as a person based on race nor is it holding them in low regards as a person. Im attracted to most races and ethnicities I think.
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Apr 27, 2015 11:42 AM

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traed said:
No its not racism because its not judging someone as a person based on race nor is it holding them in low regards as a person. Im attracted to most races and ethnicities I think.
That's not following the definition and scenario though.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
Apr 27, 2015 11:49 AM

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Technically yes. Does it mean that you're racist? No, it's just a matter of taste and preference.

You guys think too much btw.
Apr 27, 2015 11:49 AM

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I think that it is discriminative to a degree. I don't find black people attractive because I don't find their skin color appealing, I don't find Asians attractive because I generally don't like their facial features, etc. Does that mean that I hate their race? Of course not. But just because I don't hate their race and have my own preferences does not mean that I am not being discriminative. Naturally, I personally feel that white people look superior compared to other races. I find my own race more attractive, and find other races unattractive. It is discriminative, but that doesn't mean that it is wrong. The problem is that when people hear the word "racism" they tend to think of hate crimes against other races, and look at it as if it is just some hateful thing. They don't want to identify that with themselves because they don't think that it sounds nice.
Apr 27, 2015 11:51 AM

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My Dick is Racist as fuck tbh.
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Clockwerk93 said:
Technically yes. Does it means that you're racist? No, it's just a matter of taste and preference.

You guys think too much btw.
Technically yes but it's a no? Wow. Contradictions.

What you meant is most likely, "It's racist but it's not wrong.".
Morgan said:
I find my own race more attractive, and find other races unattractive. It is discriminative, but that doesn't mean that it is wrong. The problem is that when people hear the word "racism" they tend to think of hate crimes against other races, and look at it as if it is just some hateful thing. They don't want to identify that with themselves because they don't think that it sounds nice.
Ding ding ding. Morgan gets it right.




Autocrat said:
Hitler was good, objectively.
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