| Recently, i read "Dimensional W" and i very satisfied with it. it story very mature even with less violence and nudity. i want to search another anime/manga like this and i searching for action seinen (mature if i didn't find seinen tags) on anime or manga sites and all i find was only gore action and full nudity. and i went to MAL anime/manga recommendation, search for mature recommendation and what happened even worse. some recommendation are shounen action only with violence action as spice. after that i start wondering " Did action seinen manga must have extreme violence or nudity on it for called mature?" or more summarily " Did action mature anime/manga must have extreme violence or nudity on it?" |
KumaApr 23, 2015 3:28 PM
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| action genre kinda implies violence, and seinen is allowed to get away with more extreme stuff, so it makes sense i say |
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romagia said: action genre kinda implies violence, and seinen is allowed to get away with more extreme stuff, so it makes sense i say but why "always"? after i search some post in anime forum for make sure this thread not recycled thread, all i find even reverse it. "why not dark, gore, or violence anime not included as mature (seinen) anime?" are question i find. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| What do you have against violence? XD |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| Action does normally equate to violence because violence is for killing and injuring people. Real life isn't pretty (even though anime often exaggerates the amount of blood) |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| on a side note, Dimensional W is not labeled as action on MAL... i think you might find mature stuff which is low on gore/nudity if you drop the action tag |
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| Of course not. Think about Fate/Zero or Baccano for example. Those are seinens and don't have extreme violence or nudity. You should take a look at those, both are amazing :) |
| Contrary to popular belief, no. |
black1blade said: i dont agains it. i just avoid it. i have trauma about it (fuck my life, dropped some masterpiece because cant handle it violance) .What do you have against violence? XD |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
romagia said: on a side note, Dimensional W is not labeled as action on MAL... i think you might find mature stuff which is low on gore/nudity if you drop the action tag it is action in every mangasite i read. (bato.to, mangahere, and mangareader are the only site not blocked by goverment). |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Unyilkdr said: black1blade said: i dont agains it. i just avoid it. i have trauma about it (fuck my life, dropped some masterpiece because cant handle it violance) .What do you have against violence? XD Oh okay, that totally makes sense. You have already seen a few of the things I would have reccomended like mushishi and monogatari. Baccano and fate/zero are both pretty violent so I would avoid those 2. Sword of the stranger isn't too graphic just awesome animation! |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
KawaiiWeeabz said: Of course not. Think about Fate/Zero or Baccano for example. Those are seinens and don't have extreme violence or nudity. You should take a look at those, both are amazing :) isn't fate series are shounen? i already drop them both anyways. still can't handle the violance. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
black1blade said: Baccano and fate/zero are both pretty violent so I would avoid those 2. Sword of the stranger isn't too graphic just awesome animation! Duh you might be right, those are actually pretty violent. I just thought that there's animes way more violent compared to those. +1 Sword of the Stranger for its animations, even if some scenes are pretty graphic :c Unyilkdr said: isn't fate series are shounen? i already drop them both anyways. still can't handle the violance. Fate/Zero isn't a shounen but if you couldn't handle the violence of Fate/SN then just avoid it. Wait, i'm trying to find something~ |
Unyilkdr said: KawaiiWeeabz said: Of course not. Think about Fate/Zero or Baccano for example. Those are seinens and don't have extreme violence or nudity. You should take a look at those, both are amazing :) isn't fate series are shounen? i already drop them both anyways. still can't handle the violance. Well fate/stay night is adapted from an adult visual novel but the content of the first two story lines is very shouenen like. Fate/zero is the grim dark version of fate/stay night with more focus on the battle royal aspect opposed to the more character focused fate/stay night. If you didn't know, I have a button that makes me put out a paragraph any time someone mentions fate on the internet XD |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
black1blade said: Unyilkdr said: i dont agains it. i just avoid it. i have trauma about it (fuck my life, dropped some masterpiece because cant handle it violance) . Oh okay, that totally makes sense. You have already seen a few of the things I would have reccomended like mushishi and monogatari. Baccano and fate/zero are both pretty violent so I would avoid those 2. Sword of the stranger isn't too graphic just awesome animation! mushishi and monogatari already watched. sword of stranger already i search, but can't find fansub translate it for my native language. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| Take a look at Steins;Gate. This show starts slowly but when you get into it it's really amazing without being really violent. |
Unyilkdr said: black1blade said: Oh okay, that totally makes sense. You have already seen a few of the things I would have reccomended like mushishi and monogatari. Baccano and fate/zero are both pretty violent so I would avoid those 2. Sword of the stranger isn't too graphic just awesome animation! mushishi and monogatari already watched. sword of stranger already i search, but can't find fansub translate it for my native language. The story line really isn't that important XD Can you understand english good enough to get the gist? If so I would just watch the dub and gloss over any gaps in understanding the (rather poor) plot with awesome fight scenes! |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| No. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
KawaiiWeeabz said: Take a look at Steins;Gate. This show starts slowly but when you get into it it's really amazing without being really violent. currently watched. black1blade said: The story line really isn't that important XD Can you understand english good enough to get the gist? If so I would just watch the dub and gloss over any gaps in understanding the (rather poor) plot with awesome fight scenes! thanks. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| I suppose the characters are quite good in SOTS |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
black1blade said: I suppose the characters are quite good in SOTS They are not great, but fine. They fit well in that movie. And the storyline isn't hard to understand, as you said. |
| I don't think "mature" stories need over-the-top violence or nudity too. Except good ones I've seen, they're most of time used for fan-service... For example, if the plot is a Samurai Schoolgirl beating the crap out of ennemies (most of time non-human) in a bloody orgy, I simply avoid it.... They can put the most interesting story in, I'm sure blood and sex will be over-the-top and will be used just to make edgy moments. And It wastes so hard the story.. |
Lancehot said: Seinen is shoenen for insecure 17+ males.  |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Balong said: I don't think "mature" stories need over-the-top violence or nudity too. Except good ones I've seen, they're most of time used for fan-service... For example, if the plot is a Samurai Schoolgirl beating the crap out of ennemies (most of time non-human) in a bloody orgy, I simply avoid it.... They can put the most interesting story in, I'm sure blood and sex will be over-the-top and will be used just to make edgy moments. And It wastes so hard the story.. excatly what i mean, why not many mature anime/manga with hard story? not only with hard action or nudity? |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
KawaiiWeeabz said: Of course not. Think about Fate/Zero or Baccano for example. Those are seinens and don't have extreme violence or nudity. You should take a look at those, both are amazing :) Baccano has extreme violence |
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| Your title is terrible. Why are you watching action shows and not expecting violence? |
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sullynathan said: KawaiiWeeabz said: Of course not. Think about Fate/Zero or Baccano for example. Those are seinens and don't have extreme violence or nudity. You should take a look at those, both are amazing :) Baccano has extreme violence Duh i forgot that scene with the It forgot it was so violent because |
JohnnyBme said: Mostly, the more the anime has less gore and nudity it's more mature... Not even close |
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sullynathan said: Your title is terrible. Why are you watching action shows and not expecting violence? because when i read it in bato.to, it tagged action. but in MAL, it is not. |
KumaApr 23, 2015 2:47 PM
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| no, no they do not. but in mature anime, gore/violence isnt used as a goal, its used as a means to deliver a certain msg. or convey a certain feeling. i honestly wouldn't say that elfen lied and and BLOOD+ are "mature" anime. |
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| not at all what makes a mature anime is the themes and how they are expressed and these arent required for an anime to have mature themes, but they may help express them |
| A lot of mature anime have extreme violence and nudity but its not a requirement |
| Extreme violence and nudity is not needed for something to be mature, though some people seems to believe that as long as something is violent or gory, it must be mature. For something to be mature, I believe it just needs to cover serious themes in a mature way. |
| Mature anything never necessitates violence or nudity and hopefully it never will. It can include it, but saying that anything mature must have violence/nudity is absurd. |
| No, not always. Honey and Clover is Josei and it contains no explicit scenes. |
| Grammar on the title op. OT: Of course. If said anime/manga is NOT an edgy seinen with blood and violence everywhere, then it's in no way mature. Honestly, this kind of stupid questions annoy me. |
Rouzhan said: Extreme violence and nudity is not needed for something to be mature, though some people seems to believe that as long as something is violent or gory, it must be mature. For something to be mature, I believe it just needs to cover serious themes in a mature way. I agree. Take Spice and Wolf or Usagi Drop for example, a beautiful piece of literature. Or better example, Jin Roh that have a strong message about violence. It is actually only had few action scene that is not violently overdone, it gives more impact as how the characters are reflecting upon their actions and the resulting moral dissonance. |
| The most important things in life is the people that you care about |
| People love grimderp. Things must die, organs must float in air. |
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| No necessarily. It depends on the plot. You don't need to everything "mature" to make it "mature" eg. I'll add "alcohol" to make my juice taste more adult like |
#CHEXIT |
cenkiss said: People love grimderp. Things must die, organs must float in air. hoomans, you are so evil. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Imeon said: No necessarily. It depends on the plot. You don't need to everything "mature" to make it "mature" eg. I'll add "alcohol" to make my juice taste more adult like isn't that almost in every shounen/shoujo? witch craft works drunk with milk. lOl |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
sammario said: Get off MAL if you're under the age of 10. You're not fooling anyone. i am sorry, but i am not fooling, and i am not under the age of 10, what should i do? |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Unyilkdr said: Imeon said: No necessarily. It depends on the plot. You don't need to up in everything "mature" to make it "mature" eg. I'll add "alcohol" to make my juice taste more adult like isn't that almost in every shounen/shoujo? witch craft works drunk with milk. lOl That anime isn't mature. I'm talking about of anime, eg. putting nude scenes at random through the show, though the plot is about fighting or car race. |
#CHEXIT |
Imeon said: Unyilkdr said: isn't that almost in every shounen/shoujo? witch craft works drunk with milk. lOl That anime isn't mature. i am talking about shoujo/shounen anime, not mature anime. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Unyilkdr said: Imeon said: That anime isn't mature. i am talking about shoujo/shounen anime, not mature anime. But I'm talking about mature anime in the first place *faceplam |
#CHEXIT |
Imeon said: But I'm talking about mature anime in the first place *faceplam i am talking about this: Imeon said: eg. I'll add "alcohol" to make my juice taste more adult like |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| I'd argue that maturity involves understanding that sex and violence do not automatically make an anime mature |
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| Why must yaoi manga have buttsecks scenes??? Why must moe anime have moe powah scenes??? Why must SoL anime have moe SoL scenes??? |
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