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Savethebestforu said: Now that this is over, can I ask where Inaho's development was?. Being able to express his emotions. |
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Neobosco said: deadoptimist said: A side story? Can you write a bit what's it about and how it is connected with the main one in a spoiler, if it's not too hard? no problem Thanks! I remember now I tried to read it, but it seemed to me to be too poorly written right from the start (sorry, if you're a fan, just my impression). |
| Not really satisfied, Slaine lived. |
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At least is seems that Marito got laid. |
Melvin117 said: Savethebestforu said: Now that this is over, can I ask where Inaho's development was? Like...why was he a main character? I really can't understand how people could tolerate any fighting/dialogue scene involving him. Here's the thing son, Inaho is not the fkin protagonist, Slaine is the one You keep telling yourself that. It won't make it true |
| Guess I'm one of the few people who enjoyed this. I absolutely loved the fight scenes as well. |
| The thread has calmed over. Way too fast... I'll go get another cup of tea, I guess. I hope the smouldering will go on for some time. |
kymano said: Darklight0303 said: You keep telling yourself that. It won't make it true Inaho could be protaganist or Slane could be protagonist, it depends on which side you .Inaho's in the war for Earth while Slaine is in the war for Vers. I don't even understand why we are having this discussion in an era, when TSOIaF brand of multy-faceted writing from different povs is all the hype. There're two protags, there are two equally important plotlines, there should be two truths and completed stories, but the latter fails, cause the ones who inherited this from Urobuchi can't move past the children's notion of black and white view, of stories with heroes and villains. |
| Let's just pretend this anime never happened... |
Stark700 said: Wait a minute... What's this countdown?  Where is this countdown? Its not in A/Z oficial website.... |
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MonadoRudra said: deadoptimist said: There're two protags, there are two equally important plotlines, there should be two truths and completed stories, but the latter fails, cause the ones who inherited this from Urobuchi can't move past the children's notion of black and white view, of stories with heroes and villains. 'the human heart in conflict with itself is the only thing worth writing about'-William Faulkner, George RR Martin. Which is why Slaine is the best character, and Inaho, along with the rest of the Deucalion crew, are cancer. MonadoRudra said: deadoptimist said: There're two protags, there are two equally important plotlines, there should be two truths and completed stories, but the latter fails, cause the ones who inherited this from Urobuchi can't move past the children's notion of black and white view, of stories with heroes and villains. 'the human heart in conflict with itself is the only thing worth writing about'-William Faulkner, George RR Martin. Which is why Slaine is the best character, and Inaho, along with the rest of the Deucalion crew, are cancer. I can quote things too. "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein. Slaine is living proof of it. Best character my ass |
| Words can not express the utter disappointment of this final episode. There's no need for me to say anything anymore. *Sigh* 4/10. Just for the animation and the ost/voice acting |
MonadoRudra said: deadoptimist said: There're two protags, there are two equally important plotlines, there should be two truths and completed stories, but the latter fails, cause the ones who inherited this from Urobuchi can't move past the children's notion of black and white view, of stories with heroes and villains. 'the human heart in conflict with itself is the only thing worth writing about'-William Faulkner, George RR Martin. Which is why Slaine is the best character, and Inaho, along with the rest of the Deucalion crew, are cancer. I can't agree more, but I have also to admit that the narrative structure gave to the two plotlines equal attention and, roughly, equal screentime (in the second season). Though, maybe, the fact that Inaho took most of the first season for his plotline, indicates that he stands higher in the eyes of the writers. But than the Op and the Ed also put the two of them shoulder to shoulder. As for me, I think that Slaine carried this alone. I am not sure, did they try to show him as remorseful in the last scenes, cause he was supposed to be a villain or something? Then it doesn't work - he is a tortured and tragic soul, easy to empathize with, his actions somewhat make sense in their general direction (a lot for this show) and, more importantly, the only one with a soul in the whole cast. Lemrina, Harklight and Saazbaum had potential, but it wasn't given any chance to grow, Rayet and Marito were killed off early. And, frankly, the show would be much better, if they'd focus on the orbital knights and Mars, maybe added a revolution or a revolutionary movement of the lower-class martians and some stuff about aldnoah. |
Fenix29 said: Guess I'm one of the few people who enjoyed this. I absolutely loved the fight scenes as well. Yeah me too. I always liked this anime even if people say is full of sh*t. The fight scene in this episode was amazing in my opinion. |
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| Why are still people trying to deny that Slaine was a villain? I know Im repeating myself but he himself admitted he was a terrible person at the end of this episode. |
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deadoptimist said: It is like if we were at war. It kept us busy and was fun for what it lasted. It was the only good thing about the series(also, Saazbaum). I also didn't like how it went from S1 to S2, sometimes I think the crew behind this show on purpose screwed development to screw the viewers:* People like Slaine? F'ck them. Slaine will be the punching bag of the series. * People like Slaine development in Cour 2? The bigger they come the hardest they fall. * People think Slaine will die at the end to atone his sins? Nope. If he dies we can't use it in new seasons/movies/ovas/etc. and we don't have/can't create better characters. * People like Inaho and they woud like to see him more developed? Too bad in cour 2 the spotlight belongs to Slaine. * People ship SlainexAsseylum? LOL no. Never. * People ship SlainexLemrina? Too bad he prefers her sister. * People ship InahoxAsseylum? Nice try, but nope, that ain't gonna happen. * People ship InahoxInko? Platonic love, because gentlemen prefer blondes. * People ship InahoxRayet? Who's that girl? Do we have a character like that? * People think Asseylum is bland? Let's make her blander. * People don't like Asseylum character? No problem, let's put her in the freezer for half of cour 2 and thanks to that we don't need to think how to improve her character(lol). * People don't like the Deucalion crew? Though luck, no one will die. * People like the Deucalion crew? As if that would matter, they will remain as plain as a drawing board(except Yuki-nee!). * Rayet was forgiven/given full trust too soon in some people's opinions given the actions she took? Ah, that character. Let them deal with it, no one will remember that anyway as the series makes progress. * People like the known Orbital Knights which are enemies of the Terrans? Too bad no one survives by the end of cour 2(hope they do though). * People would like to know more about Mazuurek? They aren't lucky because so far that's where his spotlight ends. We have to make place for Crutheo Jr somehow. * People wonder what kind of impact to the story will have Crutheo Jr if appears two episodes before the end? We need to marry the princess so she can become Queen(because somehow she can't be one if she is single and people wants her married by the end of the series... or dead, but we won't kill her lol) but we cannot use neither Slaine, nor Inaho nor Mazuurek as husband because that would please someone. Having an impact? Nah, you guys think too hard about it, he will just steal Asseylum from Slaine as retribution for stealing "his" Tharsis; but if you want to be philosophical about it, you can think about the Schrödinger's cat experiment: If he wouldn't exist she would become Queen without the three aforementioned guys anyway so, the more the merrier right? But I'm sure they will release a movie later, and we will return to our trenches when the time comes :). |
blackbishopMar 28, 2015 2:29 PM
| If not for hime, Inaho for sure would have killed Slaine. Slaine probably would have preferred to die in battle as well, rather than be imprisoned and pitied. I seem to be in the minority, but I liked Inaho's character - you don't have to be an obnoxious, overly emotional twit to be sympathetic. I feel really bad for eye-kun. He seemed to almost have his own personality and he was removed just like that. |
Raziel1991 said: Why are still people trying to deny that Slaine was a villain? I know Im repeating myself but he himself admitted he was a terrible person at the end of this episode. Doesn't change the fact that this show was carried by him alone. |
Kharaen said: I seem to be in the minority, but I liked Inaho's character - you don't have to be an obnoxious, overly emotional twit to be sympathetic. I feel the same way. |
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| Ending was not as great as I had hoped, wanted Slain to get squashed for good by Inaho, but well having him spend the rest of his miserable life in prison works for me as well. All's well in the world, although I wonder what became of the other princess who I don't even care to remember her name. Lumine? Lumire? >.> I'm glad no one of the good guys ended up dead, although I thought for sure Rayet or Inko were going to bite it. Glad that didn't happen. Overall 6/10 The second season was kind of disappointing compared to the 1st. |
| Watch the score crash and burn, what a terrible second season to an anime that had potential after season one. 5/10 |
Darklight0303 said: Melvin117 said: Here's the thing son, Inaho is not the fkin protagonist, Slaine is the one You keep telling yourself that. It won't make it true Tell that to the plot that made Slaine the only interesting MC. |
| Ahahahaha, that final episode was the cherry on top of the cake. I think I will rate it in true MAL manner: 10/10 aka utter trash. I hope there won't be a s3 that I have to watch because. |
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| im so fucking glad i never watched season 2, I already had my quota for laughably bad shows filled out with G-reco this would of just been overkill |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| That final battle was done beautifully, everything I could've wanted. The resolution could easily have taken a full episode, but it's still a happy ending for everyone except Slaine. Suppose he deserves it. Also Heavenly Blue is back!! Man, this show is one of the best I've seen in recent times, and I'm glad I've been following it since day 1 in the summer. The action scenes and music, and the story of Slaine's rise to power and his downfall, are absolutely amazing. |
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blackbishop said: deadoptimist said: It is like if we were at war. It kept us busy and was fun for what it lasted. It was the only good thing about the series(also, Saazbaum). I also didn't like how it went from S1 to S2, sometimes I think the crew behind this show on purpose screwed development to screw the viewers:* People like Slaine? F'ck them. Slaine will be the punching bag of the series. * People like Slaine development in Cour 2? The bigger they come the hardest they fall. * People think Slaine will die at the end to atone his sins? Nope. If he dies we can't use it in new seasons/movies/ovas/etc. and we don't have/can't create better characters. * People like Inaho and they woud like to see him more developed? Too bad in cour 2 the spotlight belongs to Slaine. * People ship SlainexAsseylum? LOL no. Never. * People ship SlainexLemrina? Too bad he prefers her sister. * People ship InahoxAsseylum? Nice try, but nope, that ain't gonna happen. * People ship InahoxInko? Platonic love, because gentlemen prefer blondes. * People ship InahoxRayet? Who's that girl? Do we have a character like that? * People think Asseylum is bland? Let's make her blander. * People don't like Asseylum character? No problem, let's put her in the freezer for half of cour 2 and thanks to that we don't need to think how to improve her character(lol). * People don't like the Deucalion crew? Though luck, no one will die. * People like the Deucalion crew? As if that would matter, they will remain as plain as a drawing board(except Yuki-nee!). * Rayet was forgiven/given full trust too soon in some people's opinions given the actions she took? Ah, that character. Let them deal with it, no one will remember that anyway as the series makes progress. * People like the known Orbital Knights which are enemies of the Terrans? Too bad no one survives by the end of cour 2(hope they do though). * People would like to know more about Mazuurek? They aren't lucky because so far that's where his spotlight ends. We have to make place for Crutheo Jr somehow. * People wonder what kind of impact to the story will have Crutheo Jr if appears two episodes before the end? We need to marry the princess so she can become Queen(because somehow she can't be one if she is single and people wants her married by the end of the series... or dead, but we won't kill her lol) but we cannot use neither Slaine, nor Inaho nor Mazuurek as husband because that would please someone. Having an impact? Nah, you guys think too hard about it, he will just steal Asseylum from Slaine as retribution for stealing "his" Tharsis; but if you want to be philosophical about it, you can think about the Schrödinger's cat experiment: If he wouldn't exist she would become Queen without the three aforementioned guys anyway so, the more the merrier right? But I'm sure they will release a movie later, and we will return to our trenches when the time comes :). All this basically. |
blackbishop said: It is like if we were at war. It kept us busy and was fun for what it lasted. It was the only good thing about the series(also, Saazbaum). I also didn't like how it went from S1 to S2, sometimes I think the crew behind this show on purpose screwed development to screw the viewers: <...> But I'm sure they will release a movie later, and we will return to our trenches when the time comes :). Damn, I messed up. There should've been "persevered", not "preserved". So ashamed... But yeah, this threads gave me the sort of a battle high. I missed it between the seasons. On one hand, I want it to end to be free, on the other, I doubt there will be a show with such a fun forum. A.Z threads have had just the right sort of trolls and analysts to have a good bloodbath. No overanalysis, no overly sensitive people, the writing bad enough for anyone to hate something and big enough to latch onto something. Easy on the eyes to make lots of edited pictures too. Btw, the <...> part, I've edited out for sanitary reasons, is great. I saved it for posterity even. It really was like that - new engaging stuff, you didn't know you wanted, and all your expectations gone to hell. Anyways, I wanna stress this again - it's been long since I had this much fun in a flame fight. Useful too - I think I've upgraded my level of English. Not everyone fought fairly, but I think we more or less held onto our honor and our standards still fly high. In the end there must be a proper memorial for those, who spent their time onto this wilderness of bytes. Let's chisel the names. I am immortalizing in this comment Savethebestforu, MetaKite, Viktor_Otaku, kymano, Inugirlz, blackbishop, MonadoRudra, Makaze_no_Moujuu, skudoops, Kaioshin_Sama, OfficialMikoSM, Z4k, CynicofSinope, ANGRY2011. |
deadoptimistMar 28, 2015 3:34 PM
deadoptimist said: blackbishop said: It is like if we were at war. It kept us busy and was fun for what it lasted. It was the only good thing about the series(also, Saazbaum). I also didn't like how it went from S1 to S2, sometimes I think the crew behind this show on purpose screwed development to screw the viewers: <...> But I'm sure they will release a movie later, and we will return to our trenches when the time comes :). Damn, I messed up. There should've been "persevered", not "preserved". So ashamed... But yeah, this threads gave me the sort of a battle high. I missed it between the seasons. On one hand, I want it to end to be free, on the other, I doubt there will be a show with such a fun forum. A.Z threads have had just the right sort of trolls and analysts to have a good bloodbath. No overanalysis, no overly sensitive people, the writing bad enough for anyone to hate something and big enough to latch onto something. Easy on the eyes to make lots of edited pictures too. Btw, the <...> part, I edited out for sanitary reasons, is great. I saved it for posterity even. It really was like that - new engaging stuff, you didn't know you wanted, and all your expectations gone to hell. Anyways, I wanna stress this again - it's been long since I had this much fun in a flame fight. Useful too - I think I've upgraded my level of English. Not everyone fought honestly, but I think we more or less held onto our honor and our standards still stay high. In the end there must be a proper memorial for those, who spent their time onto this wilderness of bytes. Let's chisel the names. I am immortalizing in this comment Savethebestforu, MetaKite, Viktor_Otaku, kymano, Inugirlz, blackbishop, MonadoRudra, Makaze_no_Moujuu, skudoops, Kaioshin_Sama, OfficialMikoSM, Z4k, CynicofSinope. ANGRY2011 was pretty cool as well. Thanks for the mention, yo. |
Makaze_no_Moujuu said: ANGRY2011 was pretty cool as well. Thanks for the mention, yo. Oh, damn, of course, gotta add him. He hasn't been in this thread, that's why I've forgotten somehow. |
| That was really cringeworthy, trainwreck to the end. Man, I'm glad this is finally over. 3/10 |
TheIMF said: Next season Dr Troyard returns to bust his son out of his prison and kick up a new storm as the Ancient Civilisation of Aldnoah returns to reclaim their power. Also, lol @ the fact they pinned the blame for the assassination attempt on Slaine as if he had anything to do with that. You mean Harlight and the rest of Stygis Squadron with Lemrina at the helm. Seriously, that ending was totally suspicious. What exactly happened to Stygis squadron? I still can't believe Slaine was accused of trying to murder Asseylum and start the war. In the end they really did blame him for everything. No way both earth and Vers using Aldnoah responsibly suddenly doesn't get messed up for a movie. I thought Slaine would surely die but nope. I guess he needs to live for the sequel movie/OVA. |
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