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Feb 9, 2015 12:04 PM
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You know why most harems piss me off... because you always have a dude who acts like being surrounded by a harem of beautiful girls who all want him inside them is a problem... It's astounding... They're not gay, and often times they're complete perverts themselves....
but then when women actually do start throwing themselves upon him, the dude starts backing away and acting like it's a problem. It pisses me off... I just wanna kick all of thier asses.

In real life, men would kill to be in their positions, but here they are... complaining about being the luckiest man alive... If I could get my hands on the dude from Rosaria Vampire I'd rip his face off and wear it as my own, so moka would fall for me. And it makes even less sense that the girls like him in the first place? Why? Why are all these hot chicks so obsessed with that little dipshit?

and it's not just in harem. In DearS, a magical girlfriend, it was even worse. A dude had a girl who's willing to do whatever he says and follow his every command and is pissed off about that... He wasn't a spineless pussy like the rest, he was a legitamate dickbag. I literally wanted to beat him up every time I saw him. And in Nodame Cantabile, a josei romance, the dude has the same problem. Why is it anime characters can't see how lucky they are?

Why can't we have main protagonists in these kinds of anime like Hideki from Chobits, and the dude from Heaven's Lost Property... Those are how you do it. Because even though they're annoyed by their girls constant mistakes and screw-ups... They realize still... that they'd some of the luckiest guys in the world, and they don't forget it.

And I assume most magical girlfriend and harem anime exist to be self-insert fantasies for the male viewer?
Well... how many guys fantasize about being surrounded by girls and being a guy who either A. Too much of a pussy to get with them... or B. Being a complete asshole and shunning them?

It not only makes no sense, but it goes against the very purpose of the anime... I'm sorry, but I can't relate to any dude that's got a hot, cute, nice girl after him, and he shuns her like a dick... I just can't relate to any dude like that.
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Feb 9, 2015 12:10 PM
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They all got a classic case of Shinji Ikari Syndrome
Feb 9, 2015 12:11 PM
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SkyEatsOcean said:
They all got a classic case of Shinji Ikari Syndrome


I think they just all need an ass whooping.. That would cure them of whatever, horrifying metal disease they all have
Feb 9, 2015 12:13 PM
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Stop creating threads.
Feb 9, 2015 12:13 PM
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Agafin said:
Stop creating threads.
Feb 9, 2015 12:13 PM
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tl;dr
Feb 9, 2015 12:16 PM
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Feaor said:
Agafin said:
Stop creating threads.


Seriously, Stop!
Feb 9, 2015 12:16 PM
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silverwalls said:
tl;dr


It pisses me off when harem guys aren't happy to be in their position.
Feb 9, 2015 12:18 PM
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Because There is no Prenup in Anime.
Imagine if all of those women wanted divorce?
Feb 9, 2015 12:18 PM

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Okashi_sama said:
Feaor said:


SkyEatsOcean said:
They all got a classic case of Shinji Ikari Syndrome
Feb 9, 2015 12:18 PM
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They're secretly gay.
Of course they would be annoyed.
Feb 9, 2015 12:20 PM

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Cakedog said:
They're secretly gay.
Of course they would be annoyed.


They're not gay... and most of them are perverts. That's why it makes so little sense.

And I can't honestly see how any man could be annoyed in thier position
Feb 9, 2015 12:22 PM

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That wall of a text just for this kind of topic? Wow people sure have free time
Feb 9, 2015 12:23 PM

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-Klad- said:
That wall of a text just for this kind of topic? Wow people sure have free time


that's what happens when things piss me off
Feb 9, 2015 12:24 PM

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silversongwriter said:
-Klad- said:
That wall of a text just for this kind of topic? Wow people sure have free time


that's what happens when things piss me off
but you should have taken into consideration that no one would read that shit, you're talking to a wall
Feb 9, 2015 12:25 PM
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There would be the constant "burden" of having to choose one to associate/hang out with the most.

Unless they're a Mormon or something.

silversongwriter said:
Cakedog said:
They're secretly gay.
Of course they would be annoyed.


They're not gay... and most of them are perverts. That's why it makes so little sense.

And I can't honestly see how any man could be annoyed in thier position

They're not Mormon. That explains it.

Most of Japan is Shinto/Buddhist after all.
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-Klad- said:
silversongwriter said:


that's what happens when things piss me off
but you should have taken into consideration that no one would read that shit, you're talking to a wall


nobody needs to finish reading it unelss they're boared... just thumbing through it will give you an idea what it's about
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SkyEatsOcean said:
They all got a classic case of Shinji Ikari Syndrome
so this is shinji fault after all? geez evangelion, the source of all shit traits in anime?
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Cakedog said:
There would be the constant "burden" of having to choose one to associate/hang out with the most.

Unless they're a Mormon or something.

silversongwriter said:


They're not gay... and most of them are perverts. That's why it makes so little sense.

And I can't honestly see how any man could be annoyed in thier position

They're not Mormon. That explains it.

Most of Japan is Shinto/Buddhist after all.


How hard is it to pick one and tell the rest to fuck off?

Or be like the guy from School Days and just not give a shit... of course that didn't really work out for him too well
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silversongwriter said:
Cakedog said:
There would be the constant "burden" of having to choose one to associate/hang out with the most.

Unless they're a Mormon or something.


They're not Mormon. That explains it.

Most of Japan is Shinto/Buddhist after all.


How hard is it to pick one and tell the rest to fuck off?


Is that what you would do?
Feb 9, 2015 12:28 PM

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But don't you ever thought about it in a different way? If main protagonist fucked all the girls he met that would be boring. If I have desire to watch hentai I watch hentai.
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Yeah it annoys me too, that's why I like Issei from DxD that wouldn't hesitate (but the other girls stop each other all the time, hah)

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But don't you ever thought about it in a different way? If main protagonist fucked all the girls he met that would be boring. If I have desire to watch hentai I watch hentai.


that would actually be interesting, and not boring
seeing every harem protagonist act the same is boring
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Cakedog said:
silversongwriter said:


How hard is it to pick one and tell the rest to fuck off?


Is that what you would do?


Look at Rosario Vampire for exmaple... it was clear he loved Moka over the other girls. I would have just picked her and if the rest didn't like it, they could cry themselves a river and drown in it for all I care
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silversongwriter said:


Look at Rosario Vampire for exmaple... it was clear he loved Moka over the other girls. I would have just picked her and if the rest didn't like it, they could cry themselves a river and drown in it for all I care

I solve this problem by not watching that kind of anime.
In fact on my priority list of anime watching, harem/ecchi are at the bottom of the list.
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But don't you ever thought about it in a different way? If main protagonist fucked all the girls he met that would be boring. If I have desire to watch hentai I watch hentai.
school days isnt boring
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-Klad- said:
That wall of a text just for this kind of topic? Wow people sure have free time

as expected from silversongwriter
Feb 9, 2015 12:34 PM

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Cakedog said:
silversongwriter said:


Look at Rosario Vampire for exmaple... it was clear he loved Moka over the other girls. I would have just picked her and if the rest didn't like it, they could cry themselves a river and drown in it for all I care

I solve this problem by not watching that kind of anime.
In fact on my priority list of anime watching, harem/ecchi are at the bottom of the list.


Not all these anime like that have that problem... Heaven's lost property is an ecchi, magical girlfriend with some harem aspects... but the main character is actually one that makes sense.
Feb 9, 2015 12:37 PM

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Okashi_sama said:
Feaor said:


Seriously, Stop!
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Dark_Chaos said:
Okashi_sama said:


Seriously, Stop!
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SuperRed said:
Dark_Chaos said:
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nigga i am black, do you think my ass would fit in? "Oh look it is negro kun." Hell no.
Feb 9, 2015 12:49 PM

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SuperRed said:
Dark_Chaos said:


For people that don't care about the topic, y'all are mighty interested... normally, when I see a thread. I don't care anything about who posted it and I only comment if the topic is interesting to me... otherwise... I don't care and don't bother to click it
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klooha said:
Yeah it annoys me too, that's why I like Issei from DxD that wouldn't hesitate (but the other girls stop each other all the time, hah)

darksasuke96 said:
But don't you ever thought about it in a different way? If main protagonist fucked all the girls he met that would be boring. If I have desire to watch hentai I watch hentai.


that would actually be interesting, and not boring
seeing every harem protagonist act the same is boring
this, also it doesnt have to be hentai just because the MC actually acts like a normal guy
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Killaclown said:
klooha said:
Yeah it annoys me too, that's why I like Issei from DxD that wouldn't hesitate (but the other girls stop each other all the time, hah)



that would actually be interesting, and not boring
seeing every harem protagonist act the same is boring
this, also it doesnt have to be hentai just because the MC actually acts like a normal guy


He doesn't even have to fuck them... but he should still try to get a little bit on the defensive.... decide which one he likes and goes for them? Or at least show some sign that he's happy about having a shit ton of girls following him around.

I'm just saying it pisses me off to see a guy do that... It's kind of like a millionare complaining about having too much money... does that not make you wanna punch em?
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In all seriousness, when it comes to harem/ecchi I think writer(s)/mangaka want to give the protagonist free reign over who their potential partner is before they make a decision in the final arc.

By having them complain about their situation, it gives the writer(s) the ability to say either the protagonist is unhappy with other potential mates getting in the way of his choice, or become disgruntled that he cannot have them all.

^All of those elements culminate together to form this, fantasy, if you will, and thus leads to the desired end result:
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Just because a girl is attractive doesn't mean that a guy has to pursue her.There are a few guys who would go out with anyone who is attractive, but then there are those that need to get to know a person more before trying to date that person.
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Harem is 2deep4u
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Feb 9, 2015 1:50 PM

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Harems don't exist for the benefit of the main character. They exist for the audience/author to indulge their own deviant fantasies over. Thus the MC is no allowed to choose (even when he does "choose" like in Monogatari) until the series ends, because to do so before then would piss off the 4/5th of the audience who were wanking over a different girl & ruin any merchandising opportunities associated with them. Also lets be honest if a harem was to behave "realistically" the girls would take one look at each other & think "wtf are we doing with this tiny dicked prick?" & go play Frisbee or something.
But wouldn't it be more realistic if they actually did something people do in real life, I mean, don't get me wrong, you can like frisbeeing all you want, but it isn't really something that everybody plays, like, not at all... <.<
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Just because a girl is attractive doesn't mean that a guy has to pursue her.There are a few guys who would go out with anyone who is attractive, but then there are those that need to get to know a person more before trying to date that person.


This makes sense!
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nigga i am black, do you think my ass would fit in? "Oh look it is negro kun." Hell no.
Feb 9, 2015 2:08 PM

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it appears you have not seen yosuga no sora
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Lancehot said:

I really expected this version:

Feb 9, 2015 2:16 PM

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Except half the time harem girls are completely unappealing.

But lol OP, it doesn't get much more pathetic than this. Getting jealous over cartoon characters. Yikes.

Don't shoot up your school please.
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Except half the time harem girls are completely unappealing.

But lol OP, it doesn't get much more pathetic than this. Getting jealous over cartoon characters. Yikes.

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Feb 9, 2015 2:25 PM

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Its because they are beta AF.
Feb 9, 2015 2:35 PM

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I blame Love Hina.
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Because you only need one person.
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Because you only need one person.
speak for yourself :p
jk but that is not necessarily true
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silversongwriter said:
Killaclown said:
this, also it doesnt have to be hentai just because the MC actually acts like a normal guy


He doesn't even have to fuck them... but he should still try to get a little bit on the defensive.... decide which one he likes and goes for them? Or at least show some sign that he's happy about having a shit ton of girls following him around.

I'm just saying it pisses me off to see a guy do that... It's kind of like a millionare complaining about having too much money... does that not make you wanna punch em?


Well if you put it like this I can agree but I'm against MC choosing a certain girl or actually dating some girls from his harem, that would just ruin the show as someone said. It's better to give every girl similar chances so the audience can enjoy the show. I didn't say that those arrogant MC sissies don't annoy me but its really better for anime :P
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Well if you put it like this I can agree but I'm against MC choosing a certain girl or actually dating some girls from his harem, that would just ruin the show as someone said. It's better to give every girl similar chances so the audience can enjoy the show. I didn't say that those arrogant MC sissies don't annoy me but its really better for anime :P[/quote]

Yeah you're right. If the protagonist gets one of the girls the harem anime is harder to pull off. I would rather not have those kind of protagonists though. Imo, Trinity Seven's protagonist is less of a sissie than most
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Its because they are beta AF.

LOLITSTHAD??
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That is why school days is so good. Makoto doesn't give a fuck.
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