| I play a lot of visual novels and 4:3 makes my head want to explode. Dont get me wrong I know 16:9 started as a gimmick and blah blah blah, but 4:3 on my 16:9 monitor makes me so fucking rage. How do you feel about that shit? |
| I don't get the difference, except the 16 one is a bit wider. |
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| ratio 4:3? 16:9? what do you mean by that? |
| "This is boring...I'm bored..." |
| 4:3 pisses me of. It looks so damn shrunk together that it bothers me a lot. 16:9 widescreen is much nicer |
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| I play VNs in windowed mode anyway so no it's not really a problem. You get used to it pretty quickly. A good story is much more captivating than just good visuals anyway. That being said if given the choice, then obviously 16:9 ones and similar widescreen resolutions are easier on the eyes. |
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ChaosSaviour said: It's related to screen resolution and each displays it differently.ratio 4:3? 16:9? what do you mean by that? 16:9 would be something like 1920x1080 while 4:3 would be something like 1200x800 |
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HaXXspetten said: I play VNs in windowed mode anyway so no it's not really a problem. You get used to it pretty quickly. A good story is much more captivating than just good visuals anyway. That being said if given the choice, then obviously 16:9 ones and similar widescreen resolutions are easier on the eyes. when its windowed, the stuff on my monitor around it bothers my eyes, so i generally end up putting a black screen behind it, which is virtually the same as fullscreen. ChaosSaviour said: ratio 4:3? 16:9? what do you mean by that? 4:3 is the old style ratio from anime, you can tell when it has black bars on the sides. Modern HD video is usually 720p which is widescreen, or 16:9. Although for some random reason 8bit made Grisaia in 21:9. |
| a better explaination is that 4:3 is 4 parts wide for every 3 parts tall, and 16:9 is 16 parts wide for every 9 parts tall. |
SolvitePriest said: uh well yeah, always leave your desktop pitch black and close all other windows to avoid distractions, makes it pretty simpleHaXXspetten said: I play VNs in windowed mode anyway so no it's not really a problem. You get used to it pretty quickly. A good story is much more captivating than just good visuals anyway. That being said if given the choice, then obviously 16:9 ones and similar widescreen resolutions are easier on the eyes. when its windowed, the stuff on my monitor around it bothers my eyes, so i generally end up putting a black screen behind it, which is virtually the same as fullscreen. except you won't have to deal with horrendous pixelation which kind of happens when you try to actually fullscreen an 800x600 (or even 640x480) resolution window |
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HaXXspetten said: Why even play on such tiny resolutions anyway? ._.SolvitePriest said: uh well yeah, always leave your desktop pitch black and close all other windows to avoid distractions, makes it pretty simplewhen its windowed, the stuff on my monitor around it bothers my eyes, so i generally end up putting a black screen behind it, which is virtually the same as fullscreen. except you won't have to deal with horrendous pixelation which kind of happens when you try to actually fullscreen an 800x600 (or even 640x480) resolution window |
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MCsq2 said: HaXXspetten said: Why even play on such tiny resolutions anyway? ._.uh well yeah, always leave your desktop pitch black and close all other windows to avoid distractions, makes it pretty simple except you won't have to deal with horrendous pixelation which kind of happens when you try to actually fullscreen an 800x600 (or even 640x480) resolution window the vast majority of translated vns are 800x600. |
MCsq2 said: most VNs released prior to like 2010 are 800x600HaXXspetten said: Why even play on such tiny resolutions anyway? ._.uh well yeah, always leave your desktop pitch black and close all other windows to avoid distractions, makes it pretty simple except you won't have to deal with horrendous pixelation which kind of happens when you try to actually fullscreen an 800x600 (or even 640x480) resolution window even today's ones are pretty common like that if they're low-budget |
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| ohhh i see. i never had problem with something like that |
| "This is boring...I'm bored..." |
| Most widescreen visual novels have locks and use modern engines so people are too lazy to translate them. Hence why most VNs are old and shitty. |
| I prefer 16:9 but I've seen some older anime restored on Blu-Ray that still use 4:3 or something similar and it looks good, as are the cases with Funimation's Lain set and their original Dragon Ball Z Blu-Ray releases. |
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MCsq2 said: ChaosSaviour said: It's related to screen resolution and each displays it differently.ratio 4:3? 16:9? what do you mean by that? 16:9 would be something like 1920x1080 while 4:3 would be something like 1200x800 1440x1080* |
| No, it doesn't bother me. I used a 4:3 monitor until November 2013, and I survived watching 16:9 content on it (as long as it wasn't in HD or contained lag-inducing subtitle effects) just fine. And if I was fine watching 16:9 content on a 4:3 screen (as presumably most people were in the early/mid 00s when 4:3 screens were more common), why should I have a problem with 4:3 videos or games on the 16:9 screen I have now? Heck, I wish I could get Starcraft I and Warcraft II to correctly display pillarboxed on my current screen, but no such luck. SolvitePriest said: Um, play them on a 4:3 display instead?Don't get me wrong I know 16:9 started as a gimmick and blah blah blah, but 4:3 on my 16:9 monitor makes me so fucking rage. MCsq2 said: 1200x900, actually. 1200x800 - 3:2. Other 4:3 anime screen and/or video resolutions include 16:9 would be something like 1920x1080 while 4:3 would be something like 1200x800 SolvitePriest said: Yet you still play them anyway.Hence why most VNs are old and shitty. |
Zalis said: Wow I'm bad ._.MCsq2 said: 1200x900, actually. 1200x800 - 3:2. Other 4:3 anime screen and/or video resolutions include 16:9 would be something like 1920x1080 while 4:3 would be something like 1200x800 My old lappy screen as 1200x800 and for some reason I thought that was 4:3, derp. |
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Zalis said: No, it doesn't bother me. I used a 4:3 monitor until November 2013, and I survived watching 16:9 content on it (as long as it wasn't in HD or contained lag-inducing subtitle effects) just fine. And if I was fine watching 16:9 content on a 4:3 screen (as presumably most people were in the early/mid 00s when 4:3 screens were more common), why should I have a problem with 4:3 videos or games on the 16:9 screen I have now? Heck, I wish I could get Starcraft I and Warcraft II to correctly display pillarboxed on my current screen, but no such luck. SolvitePriest said: Um, play them on a 4:3 display instead?Don't get me wrong I know 16:9 started as a gimmick and blah blah blah, but 4:3 on my 16:9 monitor makes me so fucking rage. MCsq2 said: 1200x900, actually. 1200x800 - 3:2. Other 4:3 anime screen and/or video resolutions include 16:9 would be something like 1920x1080 while 4:3 would be something like 1200x800 SolvitePriest said: Yet you still play them anyway.Hence why most VNs are old and shitty. I havent played a 4:3 novel in years. I only play 16:9 novels, even if they suck. |
| I love the 4:3 aspect ratio, because the majority of the Anime I watch is 4:3. Plus, I watch the majority of my Anime on DVD using a 4:3 CRT tv, so it looks great. |
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| Yes 4:3 makes my eyes bleed, that's why I've been holding off on some older things to get remasters so I can watch them at the proper resolution. On a related note, apparently Ninja Slayer is going to be 4:3 to go for the retro feel and I don't know how to feel about that. |
| nope, doesn't bother me at all. |
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LucasRTS said: My monitor is 16:10 ulta wide 2560 x 1080 and 4:3 or 16:9 resolutions sucks Something is wrong in this statement. Do you want me to spill it for you or will you notice yourself? |
| My main issue with 4:3 is that when I'm filming sex tapes, it isn't wide enough to capture my entire cock. This is why I always prefer 16:9. |
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SolvitePriest said: Okay, so...I haven't played a 4:3 novel in years. I only play 16:9 novels, even if they suck. I play a lot of visual novels and 4:3 makes my head want to explode. Why use the present tense if this issue no longer affects you? For that matter, why make this thread if this issue no longer affects you?4:3 on my 16:9 monitor makes me so fucking rage. Feaor said: "Having the same shape as my screen" =/= "proper resolution." I guess the people who demanded cropped fullscreen DVD and VHS releases of movies in the late 90s and early 00s never went away, they just metamorphosed. I don't know about games, but you're going to have an awful long wait for anime -- aside from big-budged mainstream projects like DBZ Kai, 4:3 anime don't get fully re-animated and re-mastered into 16:9. They may get new film transfers or digital upscales for a Blu-Ray release, but they'll still be 4:3. Yes 4:3 makes my eyes bleed, that's why I've been holding off on some older things to get remasters so I can watch them at the proper resolution. And again, there's a solution to that, if black bars are that much of an issue -- watch or play on a 4:3 screen. (Goodwill Electronics and Craigslist > Free would be good places to check.) Though I don't remember nearly this much of a revolt, at least among the geek/enthusiast community, at 16:9 content on 4:3 screens back in the day... |
| 4:3 doesn't bother me. |
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| Whatever Grisaia was bothered me for 1 episode, then I didn't care anymore. |
Paul said: Whatever Grisaia was bothered me for 1 episode, then I didn't care anymore. 21:9? I found it interesting at first but it turned out they just wanted to be hipster for one episode. |
| Believe it or not, I run a dual monitor setup where one screen is a 21" 1080p display and the other is a 19" 1280x1024 display, because it was old and lying around and nobody uses it anyways. Useless for gaming, but for almost anything else, the extra screen space is nice. And, of course, I can run old games/video on it and boom, no black bars. Unfortunately it's a shitty TN panel with really washed out whites, poor color contrast and noticeable gradient banding, whereas the other screen is a fairly nice IPS display that has none of that, which makes it far more noticeable than it otherwise would be. But at least it doesn't have black bars? |
| No, but Eva 3.33's wider widescreen bugged me slightly. |
Zalis said: SolvitePriest said: Okay, so...I haven't played a 4:3 novel in years. I only play 16:9 novels, even if they suck. I play a lot of visual novels and 4:3 makes my head want to explode. Why use the present tense if this issue no longer affects you? For that matter, why make this thread if this issue no longer affects you?4:3 on my 16:9 monitor makes me so fucking rage. Feaor said: "Having the same shape as my screen" =/= "proper resolution." I guess the people who demanded cropped fullscreen DVD and VHS releases of movies in the late 90s and early 00s never went away, they just metamorphosed. I don't know about games, but you're going to have an awful long wait for anime -- aside from big-budged mainstream projects like DBZ Kai, 4:3 anime don't get fully re-animated and re-mastered into 16:9. They may get new film transfers or digital upscales for a Blu-Ray release, but they'll still be 4:3. Yes 4:3 makes my eyes bleed, that's why I've been holding off on some older things to get remasters so I can watch them at the proper resolution. And again, there's a solution to that, if black bars are that much of an issue -- watch or play on a 4:3 screen. (Goodwill Electronics and Craigslist > Free would be good places to check.) Though I don't remember nearly this much of a revolt, at least among the geek/enthusiast community, at 16:9 content on 4:3 screens back in the day... 4:3 still affects me with old anime and the occasional indie game. |
fst said: Believe it or not, I run a dual monitor setup where one screen is a 21" 1080p display and the other is a 19" 1280x1024 display, because it was old and lying around and nobody uses it anyways. Useless for gaming, but for almost anything else, the extra screen space is nice. And, of course, I can run old games/video on it and boom, no black bars. Unfortunately it's a shitty TN panel with really washed out whites, poor color contrast and noticeable gradient banding, whereas the other screen is a fairly nice IPS display that has none of that, which makes it far more noticeable than it otherwise would be. But at least it doesn't have black bars? I have a 25 inch TN 3d 144hz monitor and a 23 inch IPS 1080p monitor. Just waiting on my lazy dad to put together the desk they got me for christmas so i can use them both. |
| 4:3 doesn't really bother me. It'll throw me off for an episode or two if I wasn't expecting it for some reason, but I adjust to it after that. I do prefer 16:9 though. |
| Look at my favorite anime. |
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| It irks me every time someone is watching an old 4:3 anime and they are cropping the damn image to ''fill the gaps'' or ''see more of the sides'' when they don't figure out they are cutting the top and bottom of the image.... Like really, the 4:3 black bars aren't that big of a deal, you will get used to them in like 3 minutes, better than actually LOSING image to fill the sides just deal with the black bars. PS: Screw the DBZ ''Seasons'' Blu-Rays. |
GEO9875 said: I've heard the purists love the original sets Funimation were doing, the ones labeled 1.1, 1.2, and etc. because they kept the 4x3 and the grain.It irks me every time someone is watching an old 4:3 anime and they are cropping the damn image to ''fill the gaps'' or ''see more of the sides'' when they don't figure out they are cutting the top and bottom of the image.... Like really, the 4:3 black bars aren't that big of a deal, you will get used to them in like 3 minutes, better than actually LOSING image to fill the sides just deal with the black bars. PS: Screw the DBZ ''Seasons'' Blu-Rays. |
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| I don't mind it at all, sometimes it's even a tad bit charming. Although I had no idea FMA 03 and Eureka Seven were 4:3 until I started rewatching them via Netflix, but I got used to it in a few minutes. I do think older anime should never be stretched out lmao, those new DBZ BD sets look like ass while Yu Yu Hakusho and Cowboy Bebop on the other hand look amazing, especially the latter |
GreenSoap said: If black bars bother you, why buy a monitor that fits approximately zero percent of the anime and games out there? (I was going to say zero percent of anything, but I suppose it is pretty close to Hollywood 2.35:1 movies.)Actually.. 16:9 bothers me. Now that I have my "ultra wide" LG monitor which is 21:9, I've gotten accustomed to it. |
| Sometimes it does, since I'm so used to watching in 16:9. But if you were to try and stretch out the 4:3 to fit the screen, it'd look awful. I mean, look at the recent DBZ BD releases. Horrible, horrible. |
GEO9875 said: It irks me every time someone is watching an old 4:3 anime and they are cropping the damn image to ''fill the gaps'' or ''see more of the sides'' when they don't figure out they are cutting the top and bottom of the image.... Like really, the 4:3 black bars aren't that big of a deal, you will get used to them in like 3 minutes, better than actually LOSING image to fill the sides just deal with the black bars. PS: Screw the DBZ ''Seasons'' Blu-Rays. my dad does this shit. zooms in the picture. |
| I would prefer 16:9, but I've gotten used to 4:3. It can't be helped. |
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SolvitePriest said: I play a lot of visual novels and 4:3 makes my head want to explode. Dont get me wrong I know 16:9 started as a gimmick and blah blah blah, but 4:3 on my 16:9 monitor makes me so fucking rage. How do you feel about that shit? what? -_-' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_ratio_%28image%29 read that, and then again... what? so because your monitor uses a 16:9 ratio... every piece of media in the history of media has to be converted to a 16:9 ratio? sorry, but entitled much? like some allready said, play in window mode if it bothers you that much :s (4:3) Traditional television & computer monitor standard 1.6:1 (8:5) (aka 16:10) A common computer screen ratio. get over it. |
| it doesnt bother me, though i prefer 16:9. it looks more visually pleasing and you can see more of whats happening. letterboxing all the time is a bit strange, but it has its moments. mostly letterboxing works in war movies or something, where you're looking at shots of really large areas. |
| It bothers me when an anime originally 4:3 is remade into 16:9. I've seen some of them and it really sucks. |
| "Having someone saying you're okay as you are and being needed by that person... It was nice to have someone like that..." — Taiga Aisaka |
| Cowboy bebop looks good. Eva is good too. |
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