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mira-lala said: Peak Saber > Every servant that is not goldy and Zerker-chan. In stats alone. Battle outcome tho depends on tactics, which she has anyway. Stats haven't really come into play with any of the fights. It always seems like a matter of how much you know about your opponent. Or how many cheap shots you can pull off. |
HentaiPriest said: Hha eh no. Heh, I don't think I'll do a VS discussion here. But well just tell me the names of the servants which are getting past avalon and excalibur combo(to expand my initial post, avalon only needed for berserker zero). I do wanna know mira-lala said: Peak Saber > Every servant that is not goldy and Zerker-chan. In stats alone. Battle outcome tho depends on tactics, which she has anyway. By peak saber I mean, one under a good master with the sheath. |
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mira-lala said: Peak Saber > Every servant that is not goldy and Zerker-chan. In stats alone. Battle outcome tho depends on tactics, which she has anyway. Big spoils |
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SwordHand said: mira-lala said: Peak Saber > Every servant that is not goldy and Zerker-chan. In stats alone. Battle outcome tho depends on tactics, which she has anyway. Stats haven't really come into play with any of the fights. It always seems like a matter of how much you know about your opponent. Or how many cheap shots you can pull off. >Can't see her sword >Spoiler that I can't say Stats have come to play. Zerker's strength is what makes him able to throw Saber like a basketball. Saber's Magic resistance stopped her from getting hit from Caster. E.t.c, they have come to play. If you had a servant with low stats vs a servant with high stats, the high stat servant will surely win. So...basically, Saber vs Archer. |
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mira-lala said: MAke Berserker an Archer for optimal class, remove Goldie's arrogance, give Assassin a good sword and some magical energy,Rider Lvl100,Caster full power+dragon,put Lancer in Ireland.Peak Saber > Every servant that is not goldy and Zerker-chan. In stats alone. Battle outcome tho depends on tactics, which she has anyway. Lets be fair ok? |
HentaiPriest said: mira-lala said: MAke Berserker an Archer for optimal class, remove Goldie's arrogance, give Assassin a good sword and some magical energy,Rider Lvl100,Caster full power+dragon,put Lancer in Ireland.Peak Saber > Every servant that is not goldy and Zerker-chan. In stats alone. Battle outcome tho depends on tactics, which she has anyway. Lets be fair ok? Peak would mean the best form they had shown in the series itself. Drake1000 said: mira-lala said: Peak Saber > Every servant that is not goldy and Zerker-chan. In stats alone. Battle outcome tho depends on tactics, which she has anyway. Perhaps some of the F/A servants could match Peak Saber. I don't think anyone from Extra could do anything against her. Just Extra? As Extra CCC servants have MFTL feats. Ain't nobody beating that |
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| "When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice." |
| I like this. A visual effect -> It looks shit and butchers his personality. So hilarious... |
LitzSabr said: Her combo doesnt mean shit if the others take her seriously.And she cant stay forever inside it.And it cant repel stuff.Get out of your little fantasy that isnt even consistent with TWO IDENTICAL FIGHTS.HentaiPriest said: Hha eh no. Heh, I don't think I'll do a VS discussion here. But well just tell me the names of the servants which are getting past avalon and excalibur combo(to expand my initial post, avalon only needed for berserker zero). I do wanna know mira-lala said: Peak Saber > Every servant that is not goldy and Zerker-chan. In stats alone. Battle outcome tho depends on tactics, which she has anyway. By peak saber I mean, one under a good master with the sheath. |
chickenonthepan said: I like this. A visual effect -> It looks shit and butchers his personality. So hilarious... But is shirou supposed to be a manly man or a sparkling magical girl? |
| "When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice." |
| I didn't know the teacher was this strong o_O Not only strong, he's overpowered since he's the only master I've seen that can fight 1on1 with a Heroic Spirit on the same level or above. |
Drake1000 said: mira-lala said: Peak Saber > Every servant that is not goldy and Zerker-chan. In stats alone. Battle outcome tho depends on tactics, which she has anyway. Perhaps some of the F/A servants could match Peak Saber. I don't think anyone from Extra could do anything against her. Red Saber would rape her. |
| This is pretty much what I said before. If Saber got her stuff, so should everyone else. But Caster still won't get *cough*spoiler*cough*. And she's draining power from a fucking leyline, she doesn't get more powerful than that. UKWHO's arrogance is based on him, his character, e.t.c Assassin has a good sword. He's a wrath, he isn't a real HS, so he shouldn't count. Rider just needs Rin as a master. Destroy everyone that is there. But *spoiler* makes *spoiler* teleport to *spoiler* Every servant fighting, except Assassin, isn't from Japan. Why should Lancer be any different? |
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ijuka said: chickenonthepan said: I like this. A visual effect -> It looks shit and butchers his personality. So hilarious... But is shirou supposed to be a manly man or a sparkling magical girl? Yeah, when Archer or Lancer powered up, none said anything. They are magical girl also? If you guys are complaining about that, pls complain about Archer looks like a Super Saiyan? |
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mira-lala said: Sasaki vs. Saber; Saber gets curbstomped.If you had a servant with low stats vs a servant with high stats, the high stat servant will surely win. |
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HentaiPriest said: Her combo doesnt mean shit if the others take her seriously.And she cant stay forever inside it.And it cant repel stuff.Get out of your little fantasy that isnt even consistent with TWO IDENTICAL FIGHTS. I didn't really ask you for what she can and would do. I asked for some names.. |
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Drake1000 said: LitzSabr said: Just Extra? As Extra CCC servants have MFTL feats. Ain't nobody beating that I heard there's someone in Extra CCC that makes Goldie humble, but then again I never played CCC because I can't nihongo :( People. All servants in Extra CCC have shit stats that are heavily upgraded. Nasu's posted what their real stats would be without the reality marble-y thing, moon cell, and they are shit. |
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mira-lala said: This is pretty much what I said before. If Saber got her stuff, so should everyone else. But Caster still won't get *cough*spoiler*cough*. And she's draining power from a fucking leyline, she doesn't get more powerful than that. UKWHO's arrogance is based on him, his character, e.t.c Assassin has a good sword. He's a wrath, he isn't a real HS, so he shouldn't count. Rider just needs Rin as a master. Destroy everyone that is there. But *spoiler* makes *spoiler* teleport to *spoiler* Every servant fighting, except Assassin, isn't from Japan. Why should Lancer be any different? And Saber doesnt have her sheath as a HS.Why should she get it but others miss their good stuff? |
HentaiPriest said: mira-lala said: This is pretty much what I said before. If Saber got her stuff, so should everyone else. But Caster still won't get *cough*spoiler*cough*. And she's draining power from a fucking leyline, she doesn't get more powerful than that. UKWHO's arrogance is based on him, his character, e.t.c Assassin has a good sword. He's a wrath, he isn't a real HS, so he shouldn't count. Rider just needs Rin as a master. Destroy everyone that is there. But *spoiler* makes *spoiler* teleport to *spoiler* Every servant fighting, except Assassin, isn't from Japan. Why should Lancer be any different? And Saber doesnt have her sheath as a HS.Why should she get it but others miss their good stuff? She's not a HS tho. If she was, she'd have her sheath. Lol, spoilers out the window now? |
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BotatoPriest said: mira-lala said: Sasaki vs. Saber; Saber gets curbstomped.If you had a servant with low stats vs a servant with high stats, the high stat servant will surely win. A 1-shot-kill skill that's not a noble phantasm and takes no magical energy and has no cooldown surely is hax. |
| "When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice." |
Drake1000 said: mira-lala said: People. All servants in Extra CCC have shit stats that are heavily upgraded. Nasu's posted what their real stats would be without the reality marble-y thing, moon cell, and they are shit. Mind posting a source for that? Well, I don't need a source. The fact Archer traced even a fragment of *spoiler sword* so well, proves his upgrade. |
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ijuka said: Talking about stats not hax B^)BotatoPriest said: Sasaki vs. Saber; Saber gets curbstomped. A 1-shot-kill skill that's not a noble phantasm and takes no magical energy and has no cooldown surely is hax. |
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LitzSabr said: Everyone with a bit of tactics.You DON'T have to get past her defences.Just wait for her to get out.HentaiPriest said: Her combo doesnt mean shit if the others take her seriously.And she cant stay forever inside it.And it cant repel stuff.Get out of your little fantasy that isnt even consistent with TWO IDENTICAL FIGHTS. I didn't really ask you for what she can and would do. I asked for some names.. @mira No proof for that. |
HentaiPriest said: LitzSabr said: Everyone with a bit of tactics.You DON'T have to get past her defences.Just wait for her to get out.I didn't really ask you for what she can and would do. I asked for some names.. @mira No proof for that. Hmm, wait, imma look for it. |
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HentaiPriest said: Everyone with a bit of tactics.You DON'T have to get past her defences.Just wait for her to get out.  Never realized that |
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| If you are looking for the material that say that HS are recorded during their peak,there are exceptions.And Saber has every reason to not have her sheath and the other sword. |
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chickenonthepan said: Just spam the report button.Mods gave up on this thread already? |
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| My waifu is finally getting serious. Gilgamesh dabes. |
chickenonthepan said: It's like they intentionally ignore the thread I created for these kinds of discussions.Mods gave up on this thread already? While we're at it, this episode showed: Saber + Rin < Kuzuki Shirou <= Kuzuki --> Shirou >= Saber Fate/stay in the kitchen if you're a girl. |
| Hmm, I definitely saw it somewhere. Before I find what I need, off to the genereal discussion thread! |
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mira-lala said: Hmm, I definitely saw it somewhere. Before I find what I need, off to the genereal discussion thread! No need to look, she practically possessed that at the end of one route. If we are considering peak saber, we take the peak she has shown. So if we're gonna compare, which saber it is needs to be mentioned. Though to me that's only needed for one of the fights. |
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| Meh, tired of this now. |
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| Saber was more like an Assassin this Episode, always going for Kuzuki :D Was Rin afraid that Archer would betray them? Honestly, this episodes are too short, and every week is a torture, i can't imagine how the 3 months wait will be..... |
chickenonthepan said: Mods gave up on this thread already? In order to deal with episode discussion spoilers, we'd need mods around here every weekend in their entirety. These threads are almost always a spoiler fest and I'd advise anyone who hasn't read the novel to stay the hell away from any F/SN forums to be honest. |
| Right, soooooooo.... on topic then. This episode was great. Rin dream, they make a plan, and then school may be out, but the LESSON ISN'T OVER. Holy shit, I liked the way that the Kuzuki fight was done. Quick and dirty, a perfect beatdown. Shirou defends... then explains himself. Good enough for me. And of course, end with blondie. Way earlier in the thread, I saw complaints about the blue lightning. After seeing the episode, I get what they were going for with the overload. I don't mind it I guess, since they also show his circuits and he screams in pain, but it did surprise me at first. Loved this episode. Last two episodes are gonna be super important, so hopefully they fulfill expectations. |
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Drake1000 said: You already know what Archer thinks of Shirou and the alliance and that he'd rather have allied with Caster. Doesn't mean he would betray them, or does it? knowing him, he may aswell kill them both and become Caster's Servant or something.. |
mira-lala said: Meh, tired of this now. Agreed. This show is just not delivering the hype so far. It's just SAO tier asspulls and plotholes. F/Z was so much better. |
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Shrimperor said: If he had wanted to ally with Caster, he would have accepted her offer in episode 7, wouldn't he?Drake1000 said: You already know what Archer thinks of Shirou and the alliance and that he'd rather have allied with Caster. Doesn't mean he would betray them, or does it? knowing him, he may aswell kill them both and become Caster's Servant or something.. |
Drake1000 said: Shrimperor said: Doesn't mean he would betray them, or does it? knowing him, he may aswell kill them both and become Caster's Servant or something.. Knight class servants tend to usually be loyal to their master because muh chivalery, muh pride, muh honor etc... Keyword: Tend. Archer doesn't really feel all Knightly... TBH, i can see him doing it, or atleast Kill Shirou (if it wasn't for the command Seal), and spare Rin. |
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