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Dec 13, 2014 1:44 PM

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Not enough saber being rekt blood.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Dec 13, 2014 1:45 PM

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robis798 said:
Nice episode, but when is Saber going to kick someone's ass? Isn't she the strongest servant? ( excluding berserker, idk )

She's already had her moments in Fate - that's basically her route. And like most F/SN characters, that means her role in the other routes isn't as important. Rider's role in UBW is a prime example of that - she has a lot of potential as a character, but ended up facing a very miserable death in this scenario. The same doesn't take place in Fate or HF, because she'd be a disposable character otherwise.

As long as you look at F/SN as a 3-route novel and keep in mind that most characters have their moment to shine - as well as moments of misery in many cases -, it shouldn't be a problem though. Since Ufotable isn't adapting Fate, you'll miss 1/3 of that unless you decided to read the route.
Dec 13, 2014 1:46 PM

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black1blade said:
Not enough saber being rekt blood.
It was enough as a special treat for anime only Saber fans.
Dec 13, 2014 1:48 PM

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Darn, they dropped the chant for UBW right at the beginning. I was hoping they would save it for later for when it gets used.
Dec 13, 2014 1:49 PM

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Zuihou said:
Darn, they dropped the chant for UBW right at the beginning. I was hoping they would save it for later for when it gets used.


I was just screaming #TITLEDROP there
Dec 13, 2014 1:51 PM

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At the beginning of the day:
Rin: Shirou is useless in fights.

12 or so hours later, during the ambush:

*Saber gets curbstomped*
*Rin gets curbstomped*
*Shirou saves their asses*
Dec 13, 2014 1:53 PM

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BotatoPriest said:
At the beginning of the day:
Rin: Shirou is useless in fights.

12 or so hours later, during the ambush:

*Saber gets curbstomped*
*Rin gets curbstomped*
*Shirou saves their asses*


= Rin lies, liar kek.
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Dec 13, 2014 1:54 PM
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black1blade said:
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The Berserker fight is the best one so far imo, with Archer vs Lancer coming second.

Pfft. You can easily see past the effects in the berserker vs saber fight. It looked kinda suckish and the blood looked stupid (also she shouldn't have killed him but yeah)

The blood was barely shown, it's not a major thing to judge about that fight, Berserker was constantly chasing after Saber who was changing locations, a very enviroment destruction and explosions filled fight like Caster vs Archer, I also liked that filler they added with the masters also fighting. the Lancer, Kuzuki and Assassin fights were more hand to hand / technical fights.
Dec 13, 2014 1:54 PM

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I still don't get why people liked saber vs berserker. Oh well, this fight made up for the fact that most of them looked crummy after the first 2 eps.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Dec 13, 2014 1:55 PM
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BotatoPriest said:
At the beginning of the day:
Rin: Shirou is useless in fights.

12 or so hours later, during the ambush:

*Saber gets curbstomped*
*Rin gets curbstomped*
*Shirou saves their asses*


And the last part where saber saved basically everyone.

So the only one that ended up being useless was Rin. Am not surprised
Dec 13, 2014 1:55 PM

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RinArcher said:
Does anyone know why they skipped the OP this episode?

Are they going to do it for the next one as well?

Like I said before in this thread, I believe that's because the wanted to fit in a lot of stuff. They altered the Issei scene as well. Shirou could have told her about it before, but I believe they just wanted to save time. All episodes so far were 23 minutes 40 seconds long, except for the longer ones. Things wouldn't have flown as well had they not left the op out of this one.

The fact that they're extending the final episode of the first cour only supports the idea that there isn't that much time to cover everything they need to.
Dec 13, 2014 1:55 PM

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LitzSabr said:
BotatoPriest said:
At the beginning of the day:
Rin: Shirou is useless in fights.

12 or so hours later, during the ambush:

*Saber gets curbstomped*
*Rin gets curbstomped*
*Shirou saves their asses*


And the last part where saber saved basically everyone.

So the only one that ended up being useless was Rin. Am not surprised



Well she was the catalyst for Shirou doing his stuff at least.
Dec 13, 2014 1:57 PM

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Drake1000 said:
black1blade said:

Pfft. You can easily see past the effects in the berserker vs saber fight. It looked kinda suckish and the blood looked stupid (also she shouldn't have killed him but yeah)

The blood was barely shown, it's not a major thing to judge about that fight, Berserker was constantly chasing after Saber who was changing locations, a very enviroement destruction and explosions filled fight like Caster vs Archer, I also liked that filler they added with the masters also fighting. the Lancer, Kuzuki and Assassin fights were more hand to hand / technical fights.

I just didn't like the effects used on the clashing blades and the flying and flipping was un-needed. It shows that they weren't creative enough to make the fight look interesting without the servants flying though the air. I liked how berserker was in the heavens feel opening. A ramping beast instead of a nimble,basket ball playing, break dancer.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Dec 13, 2014 1:58 PM

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Rin did make a pretty important move - going after Kuzuki. She also set up the boundary field and whatnot (I can't recall whether that happened in the novel, but it doesn't really matter imo). While she couldn't save their asses, she was far from useless. And of course, Shirou cares more about others than himself, so seeing her in danger made him flip the switch and go nuts on Kuzuki.
Dec 13, 2014 1:59 PM

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She fulfilled her role as a master. Caster flaunting rule breaker was cool too.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Dec 13, 2014 1:59 PM

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Was still useless =3
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Dec 13, 2014 2:00 PM

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black1blade said:
I just didn't like the effects used on the clashing blades and the flying and flipping was un-needed. It shows that they weren't creative enough to make the fight look interesting without the servants flying though the air. I liked how berserker was in the heavens feel opening. A ramping beast instead of a nimble,basket ball playing, break dancer.


That sequence in the HF opening is godlike.
Dec 13, 2014 2:00 PM

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black1blade said:
She fulfilled her role as a master. Caster flaunting the dagger was cool too.


I really wish she didn't though. Makes people wondering what she was doing while her master was fighting.
Dec 13, 2014 2:00 PM
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black1blade said:
Drake1000 said:

The blood was barely shown, it's not a major thing to judge about that fight, Berserker was constantly chasing after Saber who was changing locations, a very enviroement destruction and explosions filled fight like Caster vs Archer, I also liked that filler they added with the masters also fighting. the Lancer, Kuzuki and Assassin fights were more hand to hand / technical fights.

I just didn't like the effects used on the clashing blades and the flying and flipping was un-needed. It shows that they weren't creative enough to make the fight look interesting without the servants flying though the air. I liked how berserker was in the heavens feel opening. A ramping beast instead of a nimble,basket ball playing, break dancer.

You're asking for a fight between 2 servants of that caliber to be any less than that? if Berserker hits the ground with all his might you're going to be sent flying.
Dec 13, 2014 2:01 PM

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LitzSabr said:
BotatoPriest said:
At the beginning of the day:
Rin: Shirou is useless in fights.

12 or so hours later, during the ambush:

*Saber gets curbstomped*
*Rin gets curbstomped*
*Shirou saves their asses*


And the last part where saber saved basically everyone.

So the only one that ended up being useless was Rin. Am not surprised
At the start she distracted caster with some gem... that didn't really accomplish anything. And she uh, left Archer home... Well, okay. My loss.
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Dec 13, 2014 2:02 PM
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nocorras said:
black1blade said:
She fulfilled her role as a master. Caster flaunting the dagger was cool too.


I really wish she didn't though. Makes people wondering what she was doing while her master was fighting.


Fapping to her sexy master beating a bitch. Well kinda
Dec 13, 2014 2:03 PM

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RinArcher said:
By the way, am I the only one who really loves the first 15-20 seconds of this episode?



It was better than I expected but I wish she talked a bit about his situation
Dec 13, 2014 2:04 PM

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Drake1000 said:

You're asking for a fight between 2 servants of that caliber to be any less than that? if Berserker hits the ground with all his might you're going to be sent flying.

Sent flying yes- INTENTIONALLY jumping around (when the other isn't is the air) like retards-no. Where did my berserker charge go?!

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Dec 13, 2014 2:05 PM

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RinArcher said:
By the way, am I the only one who really loves the first 15-20 seconds of this episode?

After reading the VN you get feels every time you see Archer.
Dec 13, 2014 2:06 PM

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RinArcher said:
By the way, am I the only one who really loves the first 15-20 seconds of this episode?


No. I wish Archer woudl have said the chant, but the flashbacks looked incredibly good. This UBW theme gives me chills every time I watch it.
Dec 13, 2014 2:08 PM

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Archer's past was interesting. Don't really understand it-hoping that they'll elaborate.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Dec 13, 2014 2:08 PM

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RinArcher said:
By the way, am I the only one who really loves the first 15-20 seconds of this episode?



I gots it on replay m8. Taking up half muh page =3
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Dec 13, 2014 2:08 PM

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black1blade said:
Archer's past was interesting. Don't really understand it-hoping that they'll elaborate.
I thought you read the VN?
Dec 13, 2014 2:08 PM
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black1blade said:
Drake1000 said:

You're asking for a fight between 2 servants of that caliber to be any less than that? if Berserker hits the ground with all his might you're going to be sent flying.

Sent flying yes- INTENTIONALLY jumping around (when the other isn't is the air) like retards-no. Where did my berserker charge go?!

Some of the other fights except Assassin and Kuzuki fights also had these instances where characters jump so high, it's a common thing in anime.
Dec 13, 2014 2:09 PM
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The chant didn't feel epic at all. It just feels alot better when spoken in actual english(with Archer's voice).
Dec 13, 2014 2:10 PM

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black1blade said:

I just didn't like the effects used on the clashing blades and the flying and flipping was un-needed. It shows that they weren't creative enough to make the fight look interesting without the servants flying though the air. I liked how berserker was in the heavens feel opening. A ramping beast instead of a nimble,basket ball playing, break dancer.

Dec 13, 2014 2:11 PM

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LitzSabr said:
The chant didn't feel epic at all. It just feels alot better when spoken in actual english*SPOILER*.


It sounds Garer. But with Rin....dem feels, and coupled with that animation >n< ;_;
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Dec 13, 2014 2:11 PM

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LitzSabr said:
The chant didn't feel epic at all. It just feels alot better when spoken in actual english(with Archer's voice).

It's quite different in japanese as well, I'm not sure if that should have been translated like that but oh well
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Dec 13, 2014 2:15 PM

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oh look people throwing around more spoilers


fantastic episode. loved the scenery of the fight: cold night with the snowflakes

fight was great


wonder who blondie with the red eyes is since he talked to sakura a few episodes ago and is deeply involved into the holy grail war it seems
Dec 13, 2014 2:16 PM

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LitzSabr said:
The chant didn't feel epic at all. It just feels alot better when spoken in actual english(with Archer's voice).

Yeah. Fortunately, the visuals were pretty damn good.
Dec 13, 2014 2:19 PM

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I have to say, I am hyped as fuck now. And that's a nice surprise, since I didn't like the Fate/Zero's season 1 and 2 lol.
Dec 13, 2014 2:20 PM

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FlameseeK said:
LitzSabr said:
The chant didn't feel epic at all. It just feels alot better when spoken in actual english(with Archer's voice).

Yeah. Fortunately, the visuals were pretty damn good.


At this moment, I don't think the chant is supposed to be epic. She's just a spectator in the dream, so she's just saying his mantra as she watches the suffering.


Dec 13, 2014 2:22 PM

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You guy suck.

Hyped the shit out of that fight and it's not even the third best one so far.
Dec 13, 2014 2:28 PM
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Best chant
Dec 13, 2014 2:29 PM

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fst said:
You guy suck.

Hyped the shit out of that fight and it's not even the third best one so far.

You should read my posts instead.

LitzSabr said:
Best chant

The best chant is in
"When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice."
Dec 13, 2014 2:30 PM

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fst said:
You guy suck.

Hyped the shit out of that fight and it's not even the third best one so far.
I only said that Saber got rekt and that ufotable can draw hilarious faces!
Dec 13, 2014 2:31 PM

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CapsuleCore said:
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You guy suck.

Hyped the shit out of that fight and it's not even the third best one so far.
I only said that Saber got rekt and that ufotable can draw hilarious faces!


Dood got a point.
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Dec 13, 2014 2:32 PM
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Kuzuki is pretty damn badass, poor saber tho. Great episode overall 5/5
Dec 13, 2014 2:32 PM
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LitzSabr said:
Best chant

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fst said:
You guy suck.

Hyped the shit out of that fight and it's not even the third best one so far.

Dec 13, 2014 2:33 PM
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The best chant is in


Dec 13, 2014 2:34 PM

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Kuzuki-sensei's prowess surprised me a lot. I did not expect Saber to get completely wrecked.
Shirou seems to have gained a new kind of power. Quite similar to Archer's wouldn't you say? Probably, I guess. Something bad seems to have happened to Shirou though, I wonder what's wrong.
:)
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fst said:

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Nothing to worry about. When has hype ever hurt an experience?


Shut the fuck up.

fst said:
You guy suck.

Hyped the shit out of that fight and it's not even the third best one so far.

Shut the fuck up :P
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CookingPriest said:
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I like the fact that Shirou is showing that much concern for Rin. I felt his attraction towards her was missing in the previous episode near Sakura's house.


If htey adapted his monologues correctly, we would have seen a lot more of it.

GangstaPriest said:
]I don't see what's so bad about a bit of "shounenism" (or whatever the fuck you call it) from time to time.
Just embrace the tiny bit of cheesiness and let yourself get hyped by the badass powerup, that's all.


It does not fit the tone and atmosphere and butchers Shirou's personality.
How do visual effects damage his personality?

An dno screaming doesnt make him shounenish.Guts screams as well is he shoune hero?

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"butcher" is a pretty gross exaggeration.


A thoughtful suicidal desperate person disregarding his safety being turned into hotblooded screaming shonen hero?

I'd say that fits butcher definition.
So he is like in the VN but he is butchered?
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Shirou in VN didn't scream or yell during the scene, he's basically like I need a weapon I need a weapon I need a weapon or Tohsaka will die.
YEah in that scene...
LitzSabr said:
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Which Lancer? Considering the situations, whether she is nerfed or not. She can beat both.....


Ofc she can. Peak saber takes out any servant except for berseker(illya) and goldie boy.
Hha eh no.
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Sent flying yes- INTENTIONALLY jumping around (when the other isn't is the air) like retards-no. Where did my berserker charge go?!

Some of the other fights except Assassin and Kuzuki fights also had these instances where characters jump so high, it's a common thing in anime.
He did jump in the VN..
Dec 13, 2014 2:42 PM

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Peak Saber
> Every servant that is not goldy and Zerker-chan. In stats alone. Battle outcome tho depends on tactics, which she has anyway.
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