True Tears Episode 13 Discussion

No problem and you can't judge anime ''objectively'' either way.

MAND4 said:
First thing I have to say about the series is that the ending is kind of earnest. When you think about it, aren't we almost all the same? Shin's your average teenager, as most of us here, and doesn't fully understand his heart. I knew from the very beginning that he'd pick Hiromi, but ... I don't know ... even though it does feel realistic and more possible, it also feels ... kind of plastic, painted in all the wrong colors or something along the way.

Most of us have that "Noe" in our lives and for most of us it's just a bittersweet memory or regret we once weren't able to fathom. I made a similar mistake once, so I do kind of can sympathize with Shin but that personal experience was the very reason I gave this show 1. I know it's unfair - you don't have to remind me - and I know I shouldn't judge the show as a whole because everything didn't pan out the way I wanted it. It's just sad ... seeing this and knowing it will probably turn out to be a great regret. Shin and Hiromi will wind up exactly like Shin's parents - everyone pretty much knows that. I decided not so long ago not to chase the girls whose tears I want to wipe away, but those who make my heart quiver. Shin choose more so with his memories and mind rather than the heart and the worst thing is that I can relate xD

Anyway, overall, it was a solid romance drama. It kept me interested in the story all-through but, to be quite frank, without Noe this show would've been blank. In the end, she was the one who breathed life through the entire 13 episodes; without her, the show would've turned into something "I like my childhood friend ... but do I like her that way?" "I'm not sure" "I do" the end.

Enough with my bitter remarks ... someone already got bored.

CVArk said:


Funny thing is this is the very thing that has recently caused me to view the series more favorably (the review on the main page was me fresh off finishing). I'm increasingly of the belief that this was the entire point - he did make the wrong decision, and this is for those of us who realized too late. Happily I can say I quickly mended that mistake in my own life, but I think this anime series as a whole is a call to action to those who have not yet done so.

But if you really want an aggravating series, check out Urusei Yatsura. Unless you catch on quick and just stay for the comedy, it'll make you tear your hair out.

Reverb_Shock said:
I predicted he would end up with Hiromi from the very beginning and I was proven right. The first 7 episodes were damn good and very interesting. But after episode 7, the series takes a nosedive straight down. It was so damn boring and Hiromi is the most uninteresting character I've ever seen in an anime. Her voice actor even sounded bored. I don't mind that douchebag ending up with her but at least make it entertaining. First half was a 9/10 and the second half was a 5/10.

7/10 overall.

Lrdwhyt said:
I'm glad Shin ended up with Hiromi. However, Shin spent way too much time being indecisive and thinking about Noe; there was barely any romance between him and Hiromi left by the end. The last time I can remember Shin showing real affection for Hiromi was the bike chase scene. After that, there's a kiss, but it was very unromantic and seemed one-sided. We didn't get to see Hiromi's response to Shin's asking her out. There's only the implication. I am left so unsatisfied. Bah! What a waste of time... Although I must say that the anime was really well made, I simply couldn't get any enjoyment out of it because of the distinct lack of real romance. 6/10.

blessofcurse said:
Isn't it obvious from the start that Shin will end up with Hiromi? Ofc first girl rules and always win, the 2nd girl is just there for additional tension. It's stupid to expect that Shin will choose Noe, really. Noe is an interesting character with a likeable attitude, but I don't really know why some people are upset for not choosing her. Since its obvious that she's just the 2nd girl.

hyperknees91 said:

Seemed rather silly considering Noe treated him much better, and they had more chemistry with each other (whereas with Hitomi they barely interact at all). I know love is love and it's really not something the audience can decide for the characters, but it could have been written in a little more fairly (like say how white album 2 handles things).

akaNeon88 said:

God dammit this ending made me so mad. Not because I didn't like Hiromi. She was a sweet and relateable character. I also get that Shinichiro liked Hiromi more than Noe. I probably just get too involved with anime.
For me its the fact that Noe was so happy with him. That scene where she says "I'm falling more and more for you" was so sweet. And then she goes to her brother saying that she has changed, that she fell in love. The tree climbing, the cockroach song and the innocent vibe she gives off really got to me. I wanted them to end up together so badly. He was the one who was supposed to get her tears back. Compare that to what Hiromi does and says. All she said to Shinichiro was "I like you". I don't understand how people want her to end up with him instead of Noe. We don't even know why they like each other. All we know about Hiromi's and Shinichiro's relationship is that they live under the same roof.

TripleSRank said:
I don't think there really needed to be justification for Shinichiro's liking of Hiromi. That was part of the premise. He's in love with/infatuated with Hiromi, but he can't connect with her. We find out why that is so as the anime progresses. The "problem" here is that the audience ended up liking Noe more.

The thing is, most people don't seem to be getting that the anime fulfilled its namesake brilliantly. It wasn't even about Shinichiro; it was about Noe and how she regained her tears- "true tears". By falling in love and having her heart broken, she learned how to cry and symbolically moved on from her grandmother's death. That was the whole point of the show.

Plus, Shinichiro's actions were pretty realistic too given his age. It's not like he suddenly forgot about her and their time together had no effect on him. Breaking up with her was a very difficult experience for him. It even brought him to tears because it was so painful.

It's a heck of a lot more mature than White Album 2, where

Let it be of note that I like Noe far more than Hiromi.

akaNeon88 said:
Ye, that's exactly the kind of opinion that I completely disagree with. Noe was not a distraction. She got much more screen time than Hiromi. And she was a dynamic character, Hiromi was extremely one-sided and lame (On purpose, stay with me here).
Usually when I argue with people I agree with everything they say, but the difference is how much I value those things. For instance, an ending to a show can be complete trash, but as long as I enjoyed it I won't care.
But here, I can't agree with Noe NOT being the main focus of the show. She just is. Seriously.
You might not see it that way because you were able to relate to Hiromi more and I can live with that but don't deny the fact that the audience is supposed to connect with(and even prefer) Noe. You not being able to do that just means that they failed in that(in your case). You gave the show a 7. Wanna know why? Because you didn't sympathize with Noe, and its literally impossible to sympathize with Hiromi as we were never given the chance to get to know her and that takes away all the drama of the show for you. Basically, you watched a "Romance,School" anime.
I hope this makes sense. I had to read it twice myself to understand it so give it a thought :P

Summerberry said:


The fact that the ending pissed off so many people is a prove that the writers did a great a job on the ending.Noe had a better interaction with Shin but Hiromi's relationship with Shin was far more realistic than Noe.

The thing that Noe fans don't understand is that the writers didn't go with the Noe ending because it's too ''fairy-tale'' and ''happy'' like and if the writers went with the Noe ending , then themes of the show will totally be meaningless .

I sympathized with Noe a lot and I understand why so many people love her but Hiromi was in my eyes a very written and complex character .The fact that she pissed off so many viewers such as yourself is a prove of this.

Of course Noe was made to be the sympathetic character ,that's why many people find her lovable .

akaNeon88 said:
I did enjoy the show overall and gave it an 8/10. When I finished it I cried for 30 minutes I thought the same thing, if you get really emotional with a show then it must have been good regardless of the ending. I just feel like the people who liked the Haromi arc didn't see the show for what it's meant to be.

Summerberry said:


I liked both Hiromi and Noe equally and I understand what this show was trying to do .

It's seems to me like the people who liked Noe are the ones that don't want to accept this show for what it is.

The writers wanted Noe to be the tragic Heroine of the show .Noe didn't end up a winner but she gained something valuable in return,she gained all of her human emotions back and crossed the huge gap that was preventing her from moving forward ,all of this was because of shin .She helped Shin and he helped her .Shin'chirou manged to do things right and finally confessed his feelings to Hiromi and Noe found the strength to move on and became a much stronger character than she was before .

I can't imagine a better ending for true tears than this one.It's a good ending for all the characters.

I found Hiromi to be a very sympathetic character and she got so much development .She had to deal with an abusive mother while holding her feelings back for the sake of the family and out of respect for the people who gave her a home .She did everything she could to protect Shin so that he wouldn't blame his own father.Made some mistakes along the way but tried to make up for them later on .

I think that Hiromi was just a soul who was desperately trying to cling on to the past.

Both Hiromi and Noe are complex and well developed characters

blessofcurse said:



Thank you for this post!

Noe is very likeable but let's not forget that she's been also a bitch with Hiromi twice. I agree with you this anime is more on Noe, she's the reason why Shinichiro has changed. He became more dedicated in picture book and dancing because of her.

WA2 is overrated imo, it's very predictable and the ending was cliché.

The writers wanted Noe to be the tragic Heroine of the show .Noe didn't end up a winner but she gained something valuable in return,she gained all of her human emotions back and crossed the huge gap that was preventing her from moving forward ,all of this was because of shin .She helped Shin and he helped her .Shin'chirou manged to do things right and finally confessed his feelings to Hiromi and Noe found the strength to move on and became a much stronger character than she was before .
Read more at http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=18205&show=380#frllOGBc5xCzxZIP.99The writers wanted Noe to be the tragic Heroine of the show .Noe didn't end up a winner but she gained something valuable in return,she gained all of her human emotions back and crossed the huge gap that was preventing her from moving forward ,all of this was because of shin .She helped Shin and he helped her .Shin'chirou manged to do things right and finally confessed his feelings to Hiromi and Noe found the strength to move on and became a much stronger character than she was before .

hyperknees91 said:
Well both Shin and Haruki have the standard immature problem of being incredibly half-assed with the majority of their actions until the very end. Both are not intended to be likable characters of any sort, but more believable and less ideal.

But that wasn't really where I was coming from. I'm saying the show would have been better for it if the relationship was shown believably like it was in WA2. I'm not saying its a perfect show it has its flaws, but it did show how the main character could have feelings for either girl in a well developed fashion.

I'm not sure why people accuse Shin and Noe on having an unrealistic relationship compared to Shin and Hiromi. Is the concept of having an energetic and silly gf so hard to grasp (that's what my current relationship is and its going on 4 years). Personally a gf like hiromi would tire me out for being so pessimistic, but yeah no blame on her for that as shes not really a bad person. I'm more just trying to debunk that complaint.

Also saying this show is solely about Noe is incorrect if you ask me as well. It's about all three characters. Hiromi probably gets the most development anyway as she starts turning into shin's mom by the end.

Granted my qualm was not ending up with Hiromi. Rather than the fashion it's presented in. Plus the show was a bit overly mean to Noe by the end (and shin's friend too! Being nice gets you nowhere in this series). The breakup was fine, but the whole brother thing and Hiromi being cruel to her was too much.

hyperknees91 said:
I disagree with this. While it’s true that she got some emotions back from this, this wasn't a good way to go about it. For one it's going to make her not trust people very easily, and two it's going to make her much more pessimistic by nature. So solving one problem by creating another, isn't really what I would call a very good approach.

Summerberry said:

Noe needed to experience heartbreak in order to move forward and break from her shell. Falling in love with Shin and getting hurt in the process helped Noe regained her human emotions and crossing the huge gap that she felt, she could finally act her own age and interact with people better .Experiencing a complex emotion she never felt before actually helped Noe and made her more human.

Noe actually gained far more than you think...

I actually like Mao over Yumi but honestly koichi choosing Mao at the last minute seemed so rushed because Koichi had feelings for Yumi from before the show even started and he didn't seem that sad when he broke up with her even though he dated her longer than Shin dated Noe.

Yumi had it worse than Noe because Shin and Noe's relationship wasn't intimate as Koichi's relationship with Yumi and it was shorter.

When Shin broke up with Noe , at least he showed emotions unlike the case with Haruki and Koichi .Even though I like both Haruki and Koichi,Shin is definitely the better male among the three .

Kimikiss should've have caused more rage because the ending was far more rage inducing than True Tears.

You say that the show is cruel to Noe,I say it's not .Why can't Noe fans look at the positive side of things?..Noe in fact gained a lot of things at the end and had a far better ending than many girls from other shows who ended up losing the game. Unlike a lot of rivals in other shows ,Noe actually had an equal chance just like Hiromi to end up with Shin .

I don't understand why people hate Hiromi so much ,All her actions made sense and she was one of the most sympathetic characters in the show along with Noe and Shin's friend.

Even Aiko was more selfish than her (I don't hate Aiko BTW) to use Nobuse like that to get closer to his friend is just terrible and heartless ....yet I don't see anyone who blames her for it ? In fact many people seem to even want to her with Shin which is something I will never be able to comprehend to this day..you can't stab a friend in the back like that...Aiko's ending with Shin will be nothing but a tragedy .

hyperknees91 said:
Aiko is a selfish bitch no doubt. But at least she did break up with her boyfriend properly after confessing. Granted this still does not excuse what she did, but hey it's something. The only reason you don't see anyone bitching about her is because she wasn't apart of the story long enough for anyone to really care. I'm not sure why shin's friend continues to chase her, but its his choice. Quite honestly I wanted him with Noe =p .

klooha said:
overly dramatic, overbearing sad music, in general hard to watch
3/10 for Noe alone