Why is anime spouting so much "young people are our future, old people are past" nonsense? Or overrates youth?
| I will attempt to address your points in order of presentation. "Most of the times, or rather very often, older characters, even those in their 20s (which for some weird japanese reason is also considered old), are killed, or die of unnatural death before young (usually teenagers) characters, or something like that..." It is not uncommon for humans who have been alive for a longer period of time to die earlier than those who have been alive for a shorter period of time. This is quite realistic and possible in both reality and fiction, but in fiction, everything that happens in the story is the direct result of the author's wish. I would also like to point out that it is not the belief of all Japanese humans that humans who have lived for more than twenty years are old as that belief is most prevalent in North American citizens. "Of course, I'm not just talking about grandpas and grandmas, but even people that just recently graduated from high school - shit, most of times I saw graduation in anime, they acted like it's the end of the world." This is the portayal of the experience of the author, their friends, or their children during graduation, as the undertone implies that the students dread the transition from attending high school classes and having fun with their friends, living a carefree life to one of a responsible adult whose choices impact not only them, but those around them, and which can mean the difference between a life of ease and a life of hardship. "What exactly do animators in Japan are trying to say, when they too are adults themselves? Why do they insist on making young people more capable than possible, while older characters often seem more stupid than infants?" The creators of these anime shows do not intend to portray adult humans as less intelligent than infantile humans, rather, the general message/moral of the anime shows that you have described is saying that the younger generations of humans have great potential and can do many great things in their lifetimes. "Are they trying to cater to younger audience? I was also younger once, and even then that kind of catering seemed really stupid to me." The target audience of most recent anime shows are older children and young adults. Particularly, those who are between the ages of twelve and eighteen. "Why is it so hard for animators in Japan to make teenagers act like teenagers, or kids act like kids?" It is not difficult to do this, rather, it would be unappealing. See, many people watch anime to escape reality, not to see reality from a different perspective. These portayals are often done for the purposes of comedy, character development, story progression, and many more reasons. "Last time I checked, IRL, youngest people (which is sad) are usually most vulnerable, and are nowhere near some typical shounen heroes ready to save the world, or crap like that." That is why it is called "fiction". |
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| It mostly comes down to the situation Japan is in at the moment and has been dealing for a while ,where there aren't enough young people working and not enough new born babies in order to "sustain" the older generation both financially trough retirement funds or psychically supportive taking care of them. |
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| Because young people are the typical demographic of anime, and you want to make your demographic feel important. |
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DerpHole said: Because young people are the typical demographic of anime, and you want to make your demographic feel important. You did a terrible job at making me feel important because I feel miniscule. |
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| it includes what demographic you watch. shounen is aimed at 10-18 year old thats why theirs always a teen mc and adults aren't that important. sheinen is aimed 17-40 you'll most likely get a mature average age mc thats full of adults and annoying little shits called children. |
| Well, OP, to be honest, you won't get a real answer here because everyone would just speculate. You'd have to ask the creators themselves if you want a real answer. |
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DerpHole said: Because young people are the typical demographic of anime, and you want to make your demographic feel important. What are you talking about? Anime is aimed at adults, based on more than 90% of anime airing during the midnight time slot. If you know how serious school is in Japan, you would hardly have many teenagers staying up at midnight just to watch anime on TV. The better answer is based on Japan having an ageing population, with a declining birth rate. That is a serious problem Japan is currently facing, so it's not surprising to frequently hear about the younger generation being the future, because they are actually the future. |
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Ejc said: DerpHole said: Because young people are the typical demographic of anime, and you want to make your demographic feel important. What are you talking about? Anime is aimed at adults, based on more than 90% of anime airing during the midnight time slot. If you know how serious school is in Japan, you would hardly have many teenagers staying up at midnight just to watch anime on TV. The better answer is based on Japan having an ageing population, with a declining birth rate. That is a serious problem Japan is currently facing, so it's not surprising to frequently hear about the younger generation being the future, because they are actually the future. My sides. |
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Hahalollawl said: MeiMisaki1525 said: My sides. Was something in his post incorrect? Would you care to refute his points? Also, keep in mind many of the anime that air on TV are trying to sell merchandise and discs. The Blu Ray discs in particular (which make up a significant portion of the profits for many companies) are VERY VERY VERY expensive. So expensive that it seems HIGHLY unlikely that children would be able to afford them. Even if their parents were to chip in it's STILL VERY expensive. Rather, the discs seem to be aimed at COLLECTORS who have significant disposable income. As in, NOT most children (unless they have high paying jobs). That's why only the richest of rich kids get the anime merchandise. |
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Psajdak said: if that really happens so often to you, stop watching anime for kids o_0 i can't believe you went through so many shounen and kids showsMost of the times, or rather very often, older characters, even those in their 20s (which for some weird japanese reason is also considered old), are killed, or die of unnatural death before young (usually teenagers) characters, or something like that... there's enough vaguely young-adult-oriented anime where that doesn't happen to answer your question, my opinion on this is that these kind of anime are aimed at kids >_>" when i was watching pokemon on tv back then i was all like 'haha team rocket is so silly bad guys never win' then when i grew up, the same thoughts you describe came to mind (most memorably in shaman king and duel masters), and when i tried rewatching shaman king and pokemon, in 8th grade or so, i literally couldn't cause of that, so i started considering more serious anime, and i still hold to that |
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MeiMisaki1525 said: Maybe there's some targeting at the 12-18 range, but the main target are otaku in the 18-35 range that can afford $70 2-episode Blu-Rays.The target audience of most recent anime shows are older children and young adults. Particularly, those who are between the ages of twelve and eighteen. |
Zalis said: MeiMisaki1525 said: Maybe there's some targeting at the 12-18 range, but the main target are otaku in the 18-35 range that can afford $70 2-episode Blu-Rays.The target audience of most recent anime shows are older children and young adults. Particularly, those who are between the ages of twelve and eighteen. Holy fucking shit, seventy dollars? For a fucking HD DVD? I wouldn't even pay that much for food or clothing! And I need those things! |
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MeiMisaki1525 said: disposable income is a wonderful thingZalis said: Maybe there's some targeting at the 12-18 range, but the main target are otaku in the 18-35 range that can afford $70 2-episode Blu-Rays. Holy fucking shit, seventy dollars? For a fucking HD DVD? I wouldn't even pay that much for food or clothing! And I need those things! |
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| Because the past is the past, there's only so much time you can spend looking back, the present and the future is always more important |
romagia said: disposable income is a wonderful thing And more available if you are living with your parents. In the 2000 Japanese census, about 60% of 25-29 year-old males were living at home. Of 35-39 year-old men a quarter were still living with parents. For women the rates of at-home living are lower. Only one in eight women aged 35-39 was still living with parents in 2000. I'd link to the source, but it has disappeared from the website. The figures themselves are here. |
| I am getting sick of every anime being about a bunch of kids. Also they usually make the older siblings the evil one and stuff. Kids (in real life at least) are going to grow up too, and they're gonna get old :| It's not like young people are more superior to older people. It's like if you get to a certain age, you're suddenly a nobody or a side character, or the guy who dies first in an anime. And another thing I noticed is... when the twelve year old protagonist is fighting the bad guy who is around 30, the bad guy still gets so conceited when he's winning. Like, you're winning against a child... get over yourself. It's so stupid how the grown up thinks he's so fantastic for being able to beat up a kid. |
Mellorox9 said: I am getting sick of every anime being about a bunch of kids. Also they usually make the older siblings the evil one and stuff. Kids (in real life at least) are going to grow up too, and they're gonna get old :| It's not like young people are more superior to older people. It's like if you get to a certain age, you're suddenly a nobody or a side character, or the guy who dies first in an anime. And another thing I noticed is... when the twelve year old protagonist is fighting the bad guy who is around 30, the bad guy still gets so conceited when he's winning. Like, you're winning against a child... get over yourself. It's so stupid how the grown up thinks he's so fantastic for being able to beat up a kid. I think you're reading too much into it, dude. |
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DerpHole said: Because young people are the typical demographic of anime, and you want to make your demographic feel important. The typical demographic of most anime is sweaty neckbearded otakus who love their waifus very much. |
Mellorox9 said: I am getting sick of every anime being about a bunch of kids. Also they usually make the older siblings the evil one and stuff. Kids (in real life at least) are going to grow up too, and they're gonna get old :| It's not like young people are more superior to older people. It's like if you get to a certain age, you're suddenly a nobody or a side character, or the guy who dies first in an anime. And another thing I noticed is... when the twelve year old protagonist is fighting the bad guy who is around 30, the bad guy still gets so conceited when he's winning. Like, you're winning against a child... get over yourself. It's so stupid how the grown up thinks he's so fantastic for being able to beat up a kid. The kid usually has like 12 super powers though so I would be proud as well. |
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kokkoderrisch said: DerpHole said: Because young people are the typical demographic of anime, and you want to make your demographic feel important. The typical demographic of most anime is sweaty neckbearded otakus who love their waifus very much. But... I'm not a sweaty neckbeard otaku and I love mai waifu... |
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| Stop living in the past OP. |
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RedRoseFring said: Stop living in the past OP. Hey. There's nothin' wrong with living in the past. I do it all the time whenever I watch my favorite older animes that I watched when I was a girl, such as Witchblade, Azumanga Daioh, and the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. :] |
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MeiMisaki1525 said: DerpHole said: Because young people are the typical demographic of anime, and you want to make your demographic feel important. You did a terrible job at making me feel important because I feel miniscule. HE wasn't trying to make you feel important. |
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Malandrix said: MeiMisaki1525 said: You did a terrible job at making me feel important because I feel miniscule. HE wasn't trying to make you feel important. 'course he was, else he wouldn't 'o said that. ;] |
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Psajdak said: MeiMisaki1525 said: Those shows aren't all that old.favorite older animes that I watched when I was a girl, such as Witchblade, Azumanga Daioh, and the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. :] They're still old, doesn't matter how old they are. |
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MeiMisaki1525 said: Psajdak said: Those shows aren't all that old. They're still old, doesn't matter how old they are. Another it's old then? |
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Praland said: MeiMisaki1525 said: They're still old, doesn't matter how old they are. Another it's old then? Seeing as how it was created, developed and released in the past, yes, it is old. |
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MeiMisaki1525 said: Praland said: Another it's old then? Seeing as how it was created, developed and released in the past, yes, it is old. lel, ok |
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Praland said: MeiMisaki1525 said: Seeing as how it was created, developed and released in the past, yes, it is old. lel, ok OK. Lmao, what, you thought I was gonna say 'no' and make up some bullshit reason as to why I would think that Another isn't old? Pfft. |
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| time passes differently for different people |
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romagia said: time passes differently for different people What do you mean? |
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MeiMisaki1525 said: team rocket is at the same mental age as ash, and anime from 2 years ago can feel old if time passed slowly between 2012 and 2014 for youromagia said: time passes differently for different people What do you mean? experiencing time is a subjective matter |
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romagia said: MeiMisaki1525 said: team rocket is at the same mental age as ash, and anime from 2 years ago can feel old if time passed slowly between 2012 and 2014 for youWhat do you mean? experiencing time is a subjective matter Experiencing time is not a subjective matter as time does pass at an equal rate for everyone. The only difference is people's sense of time, or how they keep track of time. What I mean when I say this is that regardless of how someone feels, the time between two-thousand twelve and two-thousand fourteen is a lot and it is fact that anything created in the past is old, regardless of how someone may feel about it. |
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| Because the majority of anime are targeted teens than ojii-sans. Old people are the past, get over it. And yer, young people are our future. |
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ScazoN said: Because the majority of anime are targeted teens than ojii-sans. Old people are the past, get over it. And yer, young people are our future. What is "ojii-san" and holy shit, your signature. Do you actually play hentai games? |
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MeiMisaki1525 said: It means gramps. And fuck no, i'm not that filthy like people here who doScazoN said: Because the majority of anime are targeted teens than ojii-sans. Old people are the past, get over it. And yer, young people are our future. What is "ojii-san" and holy shit, your signature. Do you actually play hentai games? I just found it |
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ScazoN said: MeiMisaki1525 said: It means gramps. And fuck no, i'm not that filthy like people here who doWhat is "ojii-san" and holy shit, your signature. Do you actually play hentai games? I just found it Wow, how is that filthy tho? Why you gotta hate on henti games? D: |
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| Its sad real sad no, its fucking sad as. "3DPD yuck, who needs them, i got muh loli and 2D waifu xD Hnnngggg >< nothings wrong with hentai, its better than porn. i can only fap to my waifu, you have more than 1 waifu? Gtfo. being lolicon is not pedophilia!" Fkn otakus. |
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