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Jun 7, 2014 2:39 AM
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Highlight of the chapter: Jean (for me duh). The panel is ambiguous. Perhaps someone shielded Jean or Jean did get shot. Eitherway, a death flag's popped up.

I'm guessing Rod is just a pretending jackass or Historia has something that he wants to exploit from her. Oh, and Captain Ackerman and Levi's relationship was pretty much predictable.

...but Armin!

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Jun 7, 2014 10:13 PM
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Raw is out! This chapter is so good. Did
Jun 7, 2014 10:14 PM
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orithyea said:
Highlight of the chapter: Jean (for me duh). The panel is ambiguous. Perhaps someone shielded Jean or Jean did get shot. Eitherway, a death flag's popped up.

Either 3 of these:
1) Jean was hurt
2) The bad guy was hurt
3) Mikasa got hurt for shielding him (which is unlikely and god I hope not)

orithyea said:
Oh, and Captain Ackerman and Levi's relationship was pretty much predictable.

Well, it was already mentioned even in the anime where he came from before joining the Scouting Legion. Fans have been speculating when it will be touched upon and we do get it now :)

Some pretty amazing things Levi did in this chapter, would've love to see that animated in the inevitable 2nd season of the anime.

Jun 7, 2014 10:15 PM
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Definitely an action heavy chapter.

Can't wait to find out the truth behind the flying hat.

Historia looks like she wants to kill someone.

Rod Reiss looks like he's trying to play the good guy.

Waiting truly is suffering.
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This might be a bit hard for you to believe, I know I didn't at first, but the thing is that other people actually have different opinions to your own. Crazy, right? How dare they not conform to your opinion on this show, or any other, who the hell do they think they are?
Jun 7, 2014 10:44 PM
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Jean is finally kill. Thank you based Isayama.
Jun 8, 2014 12:11 AM
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And Captian Ackerman just had to walk into the bar in a similar oppa gangnam style that made me burst out laughing during such a serious moment.
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Jun 8, 2014 5:12 AM
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Jean won't die. Look closely before that panel Armin reaching for his gun then his face in those reaction shots looks like he pulled the trigger. He would have finally solidified the EMA trio of killing someone in self-defense.

Unless Mikasa did that thing where she detaches and throws the blade and saves Jean, my money is on Armin just got his first human kill.
Jun 8, 2014 6:53 AM
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It was a good chapter. I liked the action and I was happy seeing Levi prove his skill in battle. Hopefully next chapter gives us answers about lod Reiss and historia.
Jun 8, 2014 8:26 AM
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God I hope Jean was shot. His naive bullshit about not wanting to kill people is getting on my nerves
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God I hope Jean was shot. His naive bullshit about not wanting to kill people is getting on my nerves

There's a reason Jean is who he is, he represents the average person. You can't kill without remorse and be mentally stable. In real life, the act of killing a fellow human being is life changing and traumatizing. When he's been fighting to protect humans, how can you expect him to just kill one. Jean is realistic, before he was killing monsters, now he has to kill someone living, breathing and moving just like him.
Has to come to the reality sooner or later that humans are as much monsters as the titans are. If he survives of course. Him not being able to kill someone, shows nothing but the reality of human morality and remorse, not everyone has the ability to kill.

Good chapter, will die a little if Jean died Isayama hasn't given a proper impactful role in the series for him to be gone so quick, especially if Jean is his favourite character. As of now Sasha and Connie are the only main characters I feel dying would be the right time for, more Sasha since I think what happened with Connies village will be touched on in the future. Historia's dad is such a dick.

I wish the manga updated every 2 weeks, monthly is a waste as content wise so much can be done with SNK.
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skittle316 said:
Darklight0303 said:
God I hope Jean was shot. His naive bullshit about not wanting to kill people is getting on my nerves

There's a reason Jean is who he is, he represents the average person. You can't kill without remorse and be mentally stable. In real life, the act of killing a fellow human being is life changing and traumatizing. When he's been fighting to protect humans, how can you expect him to just kill one. Jean is realistic, before he was killing monsters, now he has to kill someone living, breathing and moving just like him.
Has to come to the reality sooner or later that humans are as much monsters as the titans are. If he survives of course. Him not being able to kill someone, shows nothing but the reality of human morality and remorse, not everyone has the ability to kill.

Good chapter, will die a little if Jean died Isayama hasn't given a proper impactful role in the series for him to be gone so quick, especially if Jean is his favourite character. As of now Sasha and Connie are the only main characters I feel dying would be the right time for, more Sasha since I think what happened with Connies village will be touched on in the future. Historia's dad is such a dick.

I wish the manga updated every 2 weeks, monthly is a waste as content wise so much can be done with SNK.


This guy gets it. Jean is a normal, well-adjusted kid. He isn't a hardened badass like Levi, Eren, or Mikasa. His reaction is supposed to be a contrast to those guys, to show that they're basically not that much different from their enemies.

I doubt Jean dies now. He's simply too well-developed a character and an admitted favorite of Isayama's. That being said, if he does die that would at least kill the talk of certain characters having plot armor.
Jun 8, 2014 10:37 AM

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He can't kill of Jean, though I wouldn't mind. Another month :(
Jun 8, 2014 11:26 AM
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Just read this chapter a few hours ago, and just...wow. I like to think that Jean is still alive, just because even though I don't particularly like him, I've kind of gotten used to him being there. But of course this is SNK and we haven't had a real gut-wrenching major character death since Hannes, I think.

If on the other hand Jean ISN'T dead, then I think Armin shot the woman in the back. Or maybe Titan Shifter!Marco came in and rescued him at the last minute (I'm kidding about that one).

Kenny was...surprisingly funny in this chapter; after all the darkness and seriously evil vibes we've been getting from him, it was a little weird to see his more humorous side, even though he was still pretty evil. I'm curious as to what his goal is now.

Oh and I called it! He really WAS just a serial killer, not a government agent pretending to be one, but he was recruited by the "bad guys".

Not much I can say about the whole Historia/Her father reunion, but I pretty much expected him to be happy to see her as he clearly loved her since he begged the military police to let her live.
Jun 8, 2014 11:40 AM

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Great chapter, Nice action, and a lot of twist in the plot. I can't wait until this scene get animated. I think I'm starting to like Kenny. :O

Isayama you've done it again. :3
Jun 8, 2014 12:24 PM

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The possible outcomes for Jean's scene are:
- Jean dies
- Jean is saved by Armin
- Jean is saved by Armin but he is wounded
- The same two above but by Mikasa
- Mikasa is accidentally shot by Armin :-P

also, Armin's gun may be one of the smoke guns the Scouting Legion owns so there's a chance he could save Jean without having to kill the girl.
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The possible outcomes for Jean's scene are:
- Jean dies
- Jean is saved by Armin
- Jean is saved by Armin but he is wounded
- The same two above but by Mikasa
- Mikasa is accidentally shot by Armin :-P

also, Armin's gun may be one of the smoke guns the Scouting Legion owns so there's a chance he could save Jean without having to kill the girl.


Did you not see the amount of blood? lol
Jun 8, 2014 12:59 PM
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Did you not see the amount of blood? lol


Yes, there is no way someone didn't just die from that--whether it's Jean or Assassin-Woman or someone else entirely will have to wait until next month I guess.
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Daw11 said:
The possible outcomes for Jean's scene are:
- Jean dies
- Jean is saved by Armin
- Jean is saved by Armin but he is wounded
- The same two above but by Mikasa
- Mikasa is accidentally shot by Armin :-P

also, Armin's gun may be one of the smoke guns the Scouting Legion owns so there's a chance he could save Jean without having to kill the girl.


Both Armin and Mikasa are on Jean's left. The MP girl is in front of him. Jean's hat seems to fly in the opposite direction.
If Armin would have shot, he would have hitten the girl's right side, without involving Jean's hat. You can say the same for Mikasa, even if she can turn around the girl with her 3DMG.
I think that somebody unexpected saved Jean.
Somebody who could fire from the MP's back.
What about Hanji?
It's possible that Armin tried to shoot the Mp, he missed her or he wasn't able to fire however he got the MP's attention. And mr.X killed her shooting or hitting her on her back.
Jun 8, 2014 1:23 PM

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Look at armin his arm def grabbing a gun or something
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Look closely before that panel Armin reaching for his gun then his face in those reaction shots looks like he pulled the trigger.


This. i still think Jean is dead or heavily wounded.
Jun 8, 2014 3:26 PM
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Look closely before that panel Armin reaching for his gun then his face in those reaction shots looks like he pulled the trigger.


This. i still think Jean is dead or heavily wounded.


I honestly hope Jean is badly injured, maybe even hanging on the point of death because when he recovers he'll hopefully have a new respect for just how the world works and what lengths the enemy is willing to go.

I get that he feels bad about killing humans (understatement) but look at what happened. He gave that woman every chance in the world to surrender and she took that mercy and used it against him in a potentially deadly way. The bad guys don't care about morals--so you have to be just as nasty as they are.
Jun 8, 2014 3:57 PM

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As always, 10/10...SnK's chapters have always left me with my mouth wide open and this is not an exception.

Levi is a fucking badass but even he, with Mikasa, could be overwhelmed if they screw up or let their guard down even once. These guys make Titans seem easy. They need to focus on escaping, period.

As much as I have loved seeing the growth of the character, I don't particularly mind if Jean dies. When someone is actively trying to kill you and your comrades, you can not be so soft to doubt the situation around you. The correct choice was to blow that motherfucker's brains into pieces. After all the experience he has acquired, he managed to screw up badly.

IF Jean ends up surviving, I REALLY hope that woman gets killed by anyone but Mikasa. We already have extremely feminists series that has sucked the life out of itself (One Piece). We don't need this masterpiece to start this "girls can only be hit, and especially, killed by monsters and other girls" shit. Jean or Armin better finish her off.

I hope Historia doesn't fall for that bullshit Reiss is trying to sell her. It is obvious that his group also came to the same conclusion as Erwin. Rod, however, wants her to be queen in order to use her behind the curtain, effectively being Reiss' puppet.
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SuperSonic1986 said:
As always, 10/10...SnK's chapters have always left me with my mouth wide open and this is not an exception.

Levi is a fucking badass but even he, with Mikasa, could be overwhelmed if they screw up or let their guard down even once. These guys make Titans seem easy. They need to focus on escaping, period.

As much as I have loved seeing the growth of the character, I don't particularly mind if Jean dies. When someone is actively trying to kill you and your comrades, you can not be so soft to doubt the situation around you. The correct choice was to blow that motherfucker's brains into pieces. After all the experience he has acquired, he managed to screw up badly.

IF Jean ends up surviving, I REALLY hope that woman gets killed by anyone but Mikasa. We already have extremely feminists series that has sucked the life out of itself (One Piece). We don't need this masterpiece to start this "girls can only be killed by monsters and other girls" shit. Jean or Armin better finish her off.

I hope Historia doesn't fall for that bullshit Reiss is trying to sell her. It is obvious that his group also came to the same conclusion as Erwin. Rod, however, wants her to be queen in order to use her behind the curtain, effectively being Reiss' puppet.


I'm pretty sure it's Armin that shot her. Look at this. http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire3/65317f8e26b1d0e30ea838b8b8b55c7d1402262428_full.png
Jun 8, 2014 4:04 PM

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All sorts of potential outcomes. I hope Jean doesn't die!

I enjoyed this chapter. I give it a 9.


Jun 8, 2014 4:45 PM

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Great chapter, some good action, wondering what is up with Lord Reiss.
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I honestly hope Jean is badly injured, maybe even hanging on the point of death because when he recovers he'll hopefully have a new respect for just how the world works and what lengths the enemy is willing to go.

I get that he feels bad about killing humans (understatement) but look at what happened. He gave that woman every chance in the world to surrender and she took that mercy and used it against him in a potentially deadly way. The bad guys don't care about morals--so you have to be just as nasty as they are.


This event will trigger something surely, but it's a good thing that Isayama didn't make all the characters ruthless killers. As it should be.
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SuperSonic1986 said:

I hope Historia doesn't fall for that bullshit Reiss is trying to sell her. It is obvious that his group also came to the same conclusion as Erwin. Rod, however, wants her to be queen in order to use her behind the curtain, effectively being Reiss' puppet.


I agree one hundred percent.

I'm still sticking to my theory that Reiss will try to persuade Historia to accept the Titan serum and so she will eat Eren to become a Shifter and Coordinate wielder. He'll probably sweeten the deal by promising to be a loving father and/or recognizing her as a legitimate heir and all that good stuff. Then we'll have a whole drawn out situation where Historia has to choose between her friends and humanity or receiving the love and belonging she was denied her whole life.

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This event will trigger something surely, but it's a good thing that Isayama didn't make all the characters ruthless killers. As it should be.


It isn't that I want them to be ruthless killers, it's just a little irritating to have people arguing the morals of killing another human when we've seen just how ruthless and at times sadistic the current human enemy is. That kind of thinking is going to get someone killed, and it's about time the consequences get shown, so at least no one else makes the same mistake.
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Intense chapter, damn Levi was a badass

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Jean won't die. Look closely before that panel Armin reaching for his gun then his face in those reaction shots looks like he pulled the trigger. He would have finally solidified the EMA trio of killing someone in self-defense.

Unless Mikasa did that thing where she detaches and throws the blade and saves Jean, my money is on Armin just got his first human kill.


Hope this happens!
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It isn't that I want them to be ruthless killers, it's just a little irritating to have people arguing the morals of killing another human when we've seen just how ruthless and at times sadistic the current human enemy is. That kind of thinking is going to get someone killed, and it's about time the consequences get shown, so at least no one else makes the same mistake.


But that's exactly the point, Isayama wanted to show that development : Jean's failure put everyone in danger ,even if his beliefs are commendable, he has now a choice : put his beliefs aside in order to survive or run away.

Can't wait for next chapter.
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Jun 8, 2014 7:14 PM

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Jean come on man,just disarm her,you dont even need to shoot her buddy.
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Oh my gosh ambushing Levi scarred the crap out of me .
I mean Levi vs Kenny (which by the way why is he in the military police?!)
And 10+ other people ?!
That scarred me !
The fight between Armin and Jean versus the guys man I thought I need this in color
I think someone went in the middle and got shot trying to save Jean guess point ( for me ) Mikasa because she is the only one with no surprise expression panel .
Levi was still fighting those people

Historia looks so posed off,out for the kill maybe ?!
Since Historia found her father will Eren too?!
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Great chapter, some good action, wondering what is up with Lord Reiss.

He's probably going to reveal stuff that relates Eren and Historia, what's going on in the walls, her being queen and back story for Kanye.
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Jean was saved... I am sure of it ...
Damn 3DMGs battle was awesome!!
Levi was amazing on this chapter!! Glad those bastards were killed like a dog!! (They f*cking mess with the survey corps eh.. that's what you get scums!!) ... More and more people died even if they're on the walls.. safe from the titans ... WTF people of this era ... (though, can't blame also the people of our era.)
Good Chapter!!!
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i dont think Jean is dead, but good this chapter seems hopeless for the heroes lol and that means that this story arc will drag on more
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More proof that Levi is a badass and the strongest of humanity's forces.

Also, I don't think Jean is dead. I am almost certain that he might of just been injured at worst. Great action this chapter too despite no Titan. I don't trust what that guy just said to Historia. The Reiss family is already mysterious enough though.
Jun 9, 2014 1:49 AM

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Daaaamn Levi going ham killing people left and right. Really interesting about that part where Kenny's 'already dead'. I'm guessing Jeane's not dead but crossed fingers, I was leaning towards Connie dying first of all the remaining ones. Oh n wtf why'd that Reiss dude hugged Historia? Pnly assumption I can make of this is that he really didnt wanted to do what he did back then ad was just blackmailed but whatever, I don't think Historia even has the heart to have feelings for family. Good chapter overall, not a killer cliffhanger but still sorta big.
Jun 9, 2014 2:50 AM

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pretty sure jean isnt dead, good action chapter tho, the ending damn, im more worried about Historia than Jean.

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Jean come on man,just disarm her,you dont even need to shoot her buddy.


If SnK starts that feminist bullshit, this series will become shit.

He, or Armin, need to blow her brains out.
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Levi was badassery personified in this chapter.

Also, Kenny Ackerman?
It's a long shot, but I wonder if he's Mikasa's uncle or something.
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No one has a problem that Mikasa is very strong. Stronger than most of the other charakters. In fact i love her very much. I also don't see a problem if there are men who hesitate to beat up women.
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No one has a problem that Mikasa is very strong. Stronger than most of the other charakters. In fact i love her very much. I also don't see a problem if there are men who hesitate to beat up women.


I consider myself a feminist, and I honestly don't care who kills her, I just want her head to get blown off.
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I consider myself a feminist, and I honestly don't care who kills her, I just want her head to get blown off.


Oh, thanks. Great would be to be killed by Armin and Slashed by Mikasa... That would make me happy.
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First interesting chapter in a long-long time. Hope the tension will last, but honestly doubt it.
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First interesting chapter in a long-long time. Hope the tension will last, but honestly doubt it.


Its SnK. Plus the author said that volumes 15/16 (after this chapter) will have the biggest impact in the series.
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First interesting chapter in a long-long time. Hope the tension will last, but honestly doubt it.


Its SnK. Plus the author said that volumes 15/16 (after this chapter) will have the biggest impact in the series.


Chapter 59-66 it seems. i cant wait for next month.
Jun 9, 2014 9:09 AM

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I don't really like Jean but I hope he don't die, maybe lose a ear or something. Story has too little "good" people remaining.

I also think Rod is faking it. He has that cunning look.
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This chapter had a western feel to it. Jean couldn't even attempt to kill that guy, but I hope that he doesn't get killed.
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This chapter had a western feel to it. Jean couldn't even attempt to kill that guy, but I hope that he doesn't get killed.


SnK always give me that European feel. Even most of the names are European. Anyway I think that person is a female.
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Jun 9, 2014 10:48 AM

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Wow that was really intense. I think Jean will live, but we just have to see next chapter.
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This was a terrible chapter :'(
Well from an unbiased point it was actually quite good.
But................

Why iyasama WHHHYYYYYY???!

I also want that beyotch to die! And a painful one at that.
Im anxious now for the next chapter. Damn this!
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