Is Anime frowned upon because criminals in Japan pin blame on it for their actions?

RichardSherman said:
I don't think anime is dying, OP. Why are you taking this for granted?

Sung-Hwan said:

It's going more and more downhill as far as sales are concerned for things that are not mainstream (you know the ones). It's just me, but I have heard Disney animation is more successful in Japan than anime right now.

Sung-Hwan said:

It's going more and more downhill as far as sales are concerned for things that are not mainstream (you know the ones). It's just me, but I have heard Disney animation is more successful in Japan than anime right now.

RichardSherman said:


Well don't let that stuff get to you if it's hurting you... :/

Besides, be proud of what you use as entertainment, and who cares if Disney is more popular in Japan instead of anime? Don't let the mob mentality on MAL make you think things that go against anime. They aren't real fans of the medium if they try to downplay it all of the time.

Forgetfulness said:
I was under the impression that anime was always a niche medium

Sung-Hwan said:

This is far from being something limited to MAL. MAL is irrelevant to what goes on for anime. It's Japan that counts, and I believe most of what I said does have a point. People are easy to believe the news and what it feeds, and anime is often a subject of criticism in Japan to fuel ratings and opinions against Otaku. It doesn't help that anime fans act weird (marrying goddamn pillows) to further fuel the masses opinions.

FishTaco said:


Pretty sure Disney animation has been more successful than anime for a very long time in terms of having a much larger following

Forgetfulness said:
I was under the impression that anime was always a niche medium

bunny_lover said:
Indeed.

Sung-Hwan said:

So let me get this straight just to clear something up.

You're telling me there has never actually been a time where anime has been popular as a whole even in Japan? I'm just really curious because it's pretty interesting to know.

Sung-Hwan said:
At this point I'm just confused if anime was actually ever really anything other than a niche in Japan, or if all the claims of it being "once popular" is indeed just a product of nostalgia as the other poster said very early on.

Open-Dice said:


http://www.cjas.org/~leng/perceive.htm

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Anime is not naturally common in Japan, though it's probably more common there than American animation is here in the United States. While manga is ubiquitous, anime is still considered for kids and younger teens by most Japanese people, and if an adult in his twenties said to other adults "I'm a big fan of anime" I think people would look at that person funny, supposing he might even be an "otaku" (used here in the stereotypical negative sense, as opposed to the idealistic positive sense). Publicly expressing one's like of anime in Japan is less like a Japanese adult in America saying "I'm a fan of American sitcoms" and more like him/her saying "I'm a big fan of Tom and Jerry".

Forgetfulness said:
lmfao, as if watching anime in general as a hobby was "normal" to begin with

Forgetfulness said:
No idea. I don't know/don't care about what's mainstream in America, though if I were to take a guess I'm assuming it would be shows I keep hearing about like Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead, Breaking Bad, Frozen, Sherlock, etc.

Forgetfulness said:
lmfao, as if watching anime in general as a hobby was "normal" to begin with

Beholda said:
I myself have never heard of this kind of problem. As a person who plays games (much like a lot of people on these forums) I've seen video games be blamed numerous times for negatively influencing people, that they cause everyone to "fail to recognise killing someone in real life to killing someone in the video game", which is of course bullsh*t.

My point is that as long as something is known to people, they will blame it. Hell, I'm sure some people think that movies and TV shows also cause people to become killers. It's just that the movies and TV shows are so widely accepted as part of worldwide culture these people are less prominent compared to those of anime and video games, which are still considered rather niche mediums.

Video games are becoming more and more accepted and at a faster rate than anime though. Sure we've had titles popular outside of Japan like Attack on Titan but you can literally walk out into the street and ask someone whether they know what "Call of Duty" or "League of Legends" is and chances are they'll know (especially CoD). With anime it's mostly been the same as it's always been: either someone doesn't know what anime is exactly or they know it's "like pokemon" or "like yu gi oh".

And what was my point? I don't think we need to worry about anime being frowned upon.

baki502 said:
If japanese animation where to die because of reasons like that it just means it wasnt popular enough to begin with. Games also are accused of the same things if not even to a worse extent, but the industry is just getting ridiculously bigger. If people really like something they wont care that some people look down on their hobby. Hell even if it were illegal Im sure video games would still not go under. I dont think anime is unpopular because of reasons like that, its just that less people like it. Deal with it, not everyone has the same hobbies and preferences like we on MAL have.

Sung-Hwan said:

so with all things said, why do they make so many anime titles every year instead of just a handful? Who are they trying to reach out to if it's not even popular? It just doesn't seem logical if we're taking profit into consideration.

Sung-Hwan said:

was just gonna say videogames are far, far, far more mainstream than anime. Hell, the US government considers League of Legend as an official sport now.

Plusme said:


Depend on what games though. Enjoying JRPGs would make you emo or weeaboos, but playing those extremely violent games like GTA5 still consider normal. I'm talking about here in the Western world.

Plusme said:

Depend on what games though. Enjoying JRPGs would make you emo or weeaboos, but playing those extremely violent games like GTA5 still consider normal. I'm talking about here in the Western world.

Ratohnhaketon said:
When MAL users commit crimes, they'll blame your threads!

This is just like gaming and every other work of fiction. Only an idiot would seriously believe works of fiction that are less than a century old are the reasons behind what humans have been doing for thousands of years.



Gotta love the pick-and-choose mainstreamfags. "Dude brah I no-lifed CoD Ghosts this weekend!" "Oh brah that's so hardcore brah!" and then "Hey I managed to play 2 hours of Runescape the other day." "Runescape? Whattafuck u nerd loser!"

Ratohnhaketon said:
When MAL users commit crimes, they'll blame your threads!

This is just like gaming and every other work of fiction. Only an idiot would seriously believe works of fiction that are less than a century old are the reasons behind what humans have been doing for thousands of years.



Gotta love the pick-and-choose mainstreamfags. "Dude brah I no-lifed CoD Ghosts this weekend!" "Oh brah that's so hardcore brah!" and then "Hey I managed to play 2 hours of Runescape the other day." "Runescape? Whattafuck u nerd loser!"

baki502 said:


Isnt it like that sort of everywhere? You are likely to find quite a few people agreeing with you when you claim to watch and like FMA Brotherhood but how many will applaud you liking Mars of Destruction?

Sung-Hwan said:

that is not a very good point because mars of destruction is legitimately terrible and the people who like it will be instantly recognized as trolls. Why not compare something like One Piece to Shaman King

Zalis said:
I don't think criminals in Japan blame anime for their actions, I think it's just the ignorant misguided hate-filled normals who can't stop blaming anime for one spate of murders 30 years ago.

baki502 said:

Same thing in gaming. Runescape is considered as legitimately terrible by most of players, COD has that "terrible" reputation amongst elitist gamers but generally is considered good and very enjoyable by the average gamer.

Sung-Hwan said:
I've only got one year left to enjoy anime before it's "not normal" for me.