| Do they kinda ruin the show for you? Do they bother you? Do they not? Do you believe they're just poorly written ? Also you can name a few anime characters you consider Mary Sue-ish |
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pralan said: I don't even know what the term means http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mary-Sue |
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| -> TV Tropes doesn't get to set what the term means; the best we can do is capture the way it is used. Since there's no consensus on a precise definition, the best way to describe the phenomenon is by example of the kind of character pretty much everyone could agree to be a Mary Sue. These traits usually reference the character's perceived importance in the story, their physical design and an irrelevantly over-skilled or over-idealized nature. ^ That is why i don't really know |
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pralan said: Aizen is the best example of a Mary Sue.-> TV Tropes doesn't get to set what the term means; the best we can do is capture the way it is used. Since there's no consensus on a precise definition, the best way to describe the phenomenon is by example of the kind of character pretty much everyone could agree to be a Mary Sue. These traits usually reference the character's perceived importance in the story, their physical design and an irrelevantly over-skilled or over-idealized nature. |
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| The prototypical Mary Sue is an original female character in a fanfic who obviously serves as an idealized version of the author mainly for the purpose of Wish Fulfillment. She's exotically beautiful, often having an unusual hair or eye color, and has a similarly cool and exotic name. She's exceptionally talented in an implausibly wide variety of areas, and may possess skills that are rare or nonexistent in the canon setting. She also lacks any realistic, or at least story-relevant, character flaws — either that or her "flaws" are obviously meant to be endearing. ??? who knows I don't look up bios of authors |
| In my personal opinion Mary Sue-ish chars are those who are just perfect, they don't have a single important drawback and they almost always succeed in what they do...I can think of some shoujo anime guys that are marty stu-ish...Like that guy from Special A , he was like the genius of the school , perfect at everything.I can say that I hate this kind of chars because they're not realistic |
DrGeroCreation said: pralan said: Aizen is the best example of a Mary Sue.-> TV Tropes doesn't get to set what the term means; the best we can do is capture the way it is used. Since there's no consensus on a precise definition, the best way to describe the phenomenon is by example of the kind of character pretty much everyone could agree to be a Mary Sue. These traits usually reference the character's perceived importance in the story, their physical design and an irrelevantly over-skilled or over-idealized nature. I definitely agree with that . Aizen is definitely a Gary Stu |
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| Forgettable to a large extent. Like cardboard cutouts! And rice! And that homework that was due-HOLY SHIT I'M TWO HOURS LATE FOR CLASS. |
| The biggest Sue in recent anime is Kirito from Sword Art Online. |
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| Well, the best example I can think of is Lightning from FF, but thats not anime. I don't recall any sticking out in anime, so I guess they are just forgettable. |
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| Mary Sue = the male leads in most pure shoujo anime (ie. VK, Maid-sama, Special A ......) |
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| I feel like the term "Mary Sue" gets abused. People paste the term onto characters so quickly and frequently that it's kind of lost its meaning for me. |
| It depends on the character. For example, Aizen and his marty stuish antics were simply boring. But, the main character from Kamen Rider Kabuto (non anime example) is a marty stue, yet entertaining and even decent one his backstory is made clear. It just depends on the character and how the writer treats said character IMO. |
ona said: The biggest Sue in recent anime is Kirito from Sword Art Online. Kirito was only good in VR game. He was quite nothing in real life. He ain't 100% perfect. Well, I think that a bit of Mary Sue is good for anime, but don't make it to be MC or make it like 100% everywhere perfect. |
| I don't really mind them. I'm sure I'd mind them if the actual definition was what it meant, but people throw it at any really skilled character and in that case, no. A Mary Sue never exists in real life. |
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| I like them if they kill people I hate them if they don't |
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| I prefer them over stupid characters... |
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DotEtc said: ona said: The biggest Sue in recent anime is Kirito from Sword Art Online. Kirito was only good in VR game. He was quite nothing in real life. He ain't 100% perfect. Well, I think that a bit of Mary Sue is good for anime, but don't make it to be MC or make it like 100% everywhere perfect. I think not even the fact that he was a beta tester can excuse the fact that he He was a Sue in real life too - There's Kirito is basically a wish fulllfilment character, a cardboard cutout onto which teenage boys can project their own fantasies of saving the world (despite the fact that their only skill is being good at video games) and having a super hawt badass girlfriend (who doesn't actually do anything useful) and having a harem of girls love you for no discernible reason. |
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ona said: DotEtc said: ona said: The biggest Sue in recent anime is Kirito from Sword Art Online. Kirito was only good in VR game. He was quite nothing in real life. He ain't 100% perfect. Well, I think that a bit of Mary Sue is good for anime, but don't make it to be MC or make it like 100% everywhere perfect. I think not even the fact that he was a beta tester can excuse the fact that he He was a Sue in real life too - There's Kirito is basically a wish fulllfilment character, a cardboard cutout onto which teenage boys can project their own fantasies of saving the world (despite the fact that their only skill is being good at video games) and having a super hawt badass girlfriend (who doesn't actually do anything useful) and having a harem of girls love you for no discernible reason. I think Asuna was more marysue-ish than Kirito. She didn't even look pale or malnourished or anything unhealthy after being in a coma. |
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| That's because girls in anime always have to be gorgeous - even if they've been a coma for years (lol, SAO) or stranded on a desert island without hygiene products (lol, Zetsuen no Tempest) |
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ona said: That's a Gary Stu though, we're talking about females not males.The biggest Sue in recent anime is Kirito from Sword Art Online. |
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| I love the people who complain when a character has no flaws, but then when a show comes along where the main character is clearly flawed, and those flaws are directly and deliberately written into the story as characterization (as opposed to simply writing mishaps on the author's part), they do nothing but attack that character for having those flaws. I love MAL logic. |
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Red_Keys said: I love the people who complain when a character has no flaws, but then when a show comes along where the main character is clearly flawed, and those flaws are directly and deliberately written into the story as characterization (as opposed to simply writing mishaps on the author's part), they do nothing but attack that character for having those flaws. I love MAL logic. And are the people who complain when a character has no flaws the same people who complain about the characters' flaws? |
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Litrydow said: In some cases, yea.Red_Keys said: I love the people who complain when a character has no flaws, but then when a show comes along where the main character is clearly flawed, and those flaws are directly and deliberately written into the story as characterization (as opposed to simply writing mishaps on the author's part), they do nothing but attack that character for having those flaws. I love MAL logic. And are the people who complain when a character has no flaws the same people who complain about the characters' flaws? |
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Nope_ said: ona said: That's a Gary Stu though, we're talking about females not males.The biggest Sue in recent anime is Kirito from Sword Art Online. Don't be pedantic. The term "Mary Sue" comes from a character in a Star Trek parody fanfic who was female, and the term "Gary Stu" was derived from "Mary Sue" so that there would be a term for male characters fitting the description. A Mary Sue is a Mary Sue regardless of gender. |
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Red_Keys said: I love the people who complain when a character has no flaws, but then when a show comes along where the main character is clearly flawed, and those flaws are directly and deliberately written into the story as characterization (as opposed to simply writing mishaps on the author's part), they do nothing but attack that character for having those flaws. I love MAL logic. True dat. I see this almost everywhere. Someone complains about one thing, yet when a show does the opposite they complain again. There's just no pleasing some people :/ |
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warriorsftw said: A Mary Sue never exists in real life. |
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| Kirito in Sword Art Online - 8k favorites, myself included. I don't think people mind. |
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warriorsftw said: A Mary Sue never exists in real life. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Joan_of_arc_miniature_graded.jpg |
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skudoops said: Ayaka from Witchcraft works? She isn't perfect, she has a weakness that you will find out about next episode (ep 3).QueenOfHeroes said: Do they kinda ruin the show for you? Do they bother you? Do they not? Do you believe they're just poorly written ? Also you can name a few anime characters you consider Mary Sue-ish Did you just watch witch workshop or w/e that's called? Because the girl in that is pretty mary sue-sih. |
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bunny_lover said: Mary Sue = the male leads in most pure shoujo anime (ie. VK, Maid-sama, Special A ......) This. God damn it. |
| They were cute, but I like it broken. Broken sue is the best thing in the world, next to a wincest. Axlicious said: warriorsftw said: A Mary Sue never exists in real life. Well, that explains everything... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkskuSXqUD0 |
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