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Dec 17, 2013 2:21 AM
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I've noticed that many people do feel like machines instead of feeling sentient beings... and this does also show with anime. I see people who are 17-18 year old and have seen 150-200 anime titles. In other words, they watch it like it was their job, without taking the time to feel anything. Then is also the people who are something like 22-28 years and they have seen like over 300 titles, sometimes almost or over 500. In other words, these people don't just watch as fast as possible, they also watch everything possible! Even if they know most of the stuff nobody has heard of is no good, and this also shows in their ratings which have more 4-5 than 8-9. I simply don't understand what goes in these peoples minds. There are many other examples from daily life of people acting like unfeeling machines.

Personally I've seen around 150 anime if you discount the countless pokemon etc movies I saw as kid which bloate the stats, being 21 years old. When I was 17-18 the number was around 50-70 (I started watching as 15 years). That's because I take time to slowly taste the experience instead of raving like zombie for more and more. And I don't plan on ever reaching 500 or probably even 300 since that would necessarily involve wasting time on too much crap.
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They're striving for more MAL points and a bigger e-penis.
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machines huh??? hmmm.. I'm not sure but you can say I watch anime (as much as I could) the way Keima plays gal games. It would only be for some time though.. years ago I'm into comic books (not mangas) then games and now anime.
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I totally agree! Robots watching random animes nonstop :D
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If you were to spend 2-3 hours each night only watching currently airing series p, you can easily get through 20+ series a season. That's easily 80+ anime a year, so it's not overly hard to rack up high numbers if you've watched for a few years.
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200 anime is actually nothing at all. I have seen over 500 and I don't even watch anime that actively. There's also plenty of decent stuff still left to watch, so no, you won't have seen it all after a measly 200.
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Since november I only watch anime, but just because I finished school and have some free time for a couple of months. But I give a lot of 8~10. I try to watch anime that I'm almost sure it's good. I give low scores sometimes, but is when I really dislike it.
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ChutaZepa said:
I've noticed that many people do feel like machines instead of feeling sentient beings... and this does also show with anime. I see people who are 17-18 year old and have seen 150-200 anime titles. In other words, they watch it like it was their job, without taking the time to feel anything. Then is also the people who are something like 22-28 years and they have seen like over 300 titles, sometimes almost or over 500. In other words, these people don't just watch as fast as possible, they also watch everything possible! Even if they know most of the stuff nobody has heard of is no good, and this also shows in their ratings which have more 4-5 than 8-9. I simply don't understand what goes in these peoples minds. There are many other examples from daily life of people acting like unfeeling machines.

Personally I've seen around 150 anime if you discount the countless pokemon etc movies I saw as kid which bloate the stats, being 21 years old. When I was 17-18 the number was around 50-70 (I started watching as 15 years). That's because I take time to slowly taste the experience instead of raving like zombie for more and more. And I don't plan on ever reaching 500 or probably even 300 since that would necessarily involve wasting time on too much crap.



You're so not-open minded its funny. Why do you believe the moment you see a number that it has been done the past freaking day? The person you think is a zombie might have been a fan of the midium the past 10 years or so. It's always possible.

So many threads like this its funny. Think, just think.
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Veronin said:
200 anime is actually nothing at all. I have seen over 500 and I don't even watch anime that actively. There's also plenty of decent stuff still left to watch, so no, you won't have seen it all after a measly 200.


You have under 200 anime rated over 5.
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What if I like watching shitty stuff?
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What if I like watching shitty stuff?


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I understand. I also wish I was a machine in order to be able 200 episodes in 4 hours.
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naens said:
I understand. I also wish I was a machine in order to be able 200 episodes in 4 hours.


How do you know that? Sometimes people add animes in their list that they have seen a long time ago.
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Do hentai counts?
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i watch 2-3 animes per day since 1.5 years , if i continue like that in 2 or 3 years my completed list is going to have more than 500 anime titles . i appreciate all animes i have watching and i don't rush for have a big anime list , I just want watch anime because i love it ,but i don't consider me like a machine or a zombie .
think to that exemple :
i work 180 hours per month , that is a machine life isn't it ?
then why not watch 180 hours animes per month ?
it's normal to work every day so why not watch animes every day ?

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I'm jealous.

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The number of titles isn't a good indicator of how much time people spend watching anime. There are numerous movies, single-episode specials, recaps, 2-4-episode OVAs, 10-minute-or-less-episode series, etc. It's more appropriate to look at the number of days they spent, but even then, you're just assuming that people who blow throw stuff really fast don't feel anything.

So either way, it was a nice attempt--judging people by what or how they watch. Actually, no. It wasn't a nice attempt. Don't bother doing it again.
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good for you, you judge others based on the amount they watch, without even knowing if they enjoyed it or not. meh, bait thread is bait thread.

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I'm jealous.

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Are you grumpy?

I don't really understand how you can be bothered with this.
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Why.. would not feeling anything have anything to do with how much you watch. Honestly, I suspect the experience is vastly more intense when you are subjected to all of the feels in a tiny portion of the time..
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Why.. would not feeling anything have anything to do with how much you watch. Honestly, I suspect the experience is vastly more intense when you are subjected to all of the feels in a tiny portion of the time..


Yeah, but it's not as memorable, because you don't keep mulling over what you saw, which leads to not getting attached to the characters as much, and missing a few things.
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Why.. would not feeling anything have anything to do with how much you watch. Honestly, I suspect the experience is vastly more intense when you are subjected to all of the feels in a tiny portion of the time..


Yeah, but it's not as memorable, because you don't keep mulling over what you saw, which leads to not getting attached to the characters as much, and missing a few things.


Thats just nonsense. Ive spent literally hundreds of hours thinking about or talking about my favorite shows and characters with friends. The shows really worth mulling over still get mulled over. Most shows are not good enough to deserve that time investment anyway /shrug.
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Yeah, it's better to spend time and effort on creating an useless, judgmental and uninformed thread. It's healthier.
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miereneronaile said:
Thats just nonsense. Ive spent literally hundreds of hours thinking about or talking about my favorite shows and characters with friends. The shows really worth mulling over still get mulled over. Most shows are not good enough to deserve that time investment anyway /shrug.


Favorite shows, not every show, there must have been an anime, where you just didn't seen to connect to a character, or didn't get them. If you have time to think about their actions, or beliefs, you start to know the character better, which can lead to a more enjoyable conclusion. I'm not against marathoning anime in any way, since I do that a lot too, but from experience I can tell you that I got more out of those shows which I had watched during an extended period of time.
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patsuan said:
miereneronaile said:
Thats just nonsense. Ive spent literally hundreds of hours thinking about or talking about my favorite shows and characters with friends. The shows really worth mulling over still get mulled over. Most shows are not good enough to deserve that time investment anyway /shrug.


Favorite shows, not every show, there must have been an anime, where you just didn't seen to connect to a character, or didn't get them. If you have time to think about their actions, or beliefs, you start to know the character better, which can lead to a more enjoyable conclusion. I'm not against marathoning anime in any way, since I do that a lot too, but from experience I can tell you that I got more out of those shows which I had watched during an extended period of time.


ikr, my absolute favourite series are always the ones that I loved for a while, usually a few months, and read forums, theories, looked at the different ways they were adapted. that's a lot more enjoyable than an anime that I like while it's airing, think it's great, but quickly after it's ended it ends up as a good, yet forgettable anime.
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200 anime is actually nothing at all. I have seen over 500 and I don't even watch anime that actively. There's also plenty of decent stuff still left to watch, so no, you won't have seen it all after a measly 200.


You have under 200 anime rated over 5.


Yes, but I haven't seen every anime in existence. Those 200 from my 550 completed put the success rate at 36%, which is pretty damn high considering there are over 10,000 anime listed on this site.
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patsuan said:
miereneronaile said:
Thats just nonsense. Ive spent literally hundreds of hours thinking about or talking about my favorite shows and characters with friends. The shows really worth mulling over still get mulled over. Most shows are not good enough to deserve that time investment anyway /shrug.


Favorite shows, not every show, there must have been an anime, where you just didn't seen to connect to a character, or didn't get them. If you have time to think about their actions, or beliefs, you start to know the character better, which can lead to a more enjoyable conclusion. I'm not against marathoning anime in any way, since I do that a lot too, but from experience I can tell you that I got more out of those shows which I had watched during an extended period of time.



/Shrug. Dont apply your limits to others I guess.

Also, if a character requires me to spend hours thinking about them just to enjoy the show fully the show has already failed as far as I am concerned.
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/Shrug. Dont apply your limits to others I guess.

Also, if a character requires me to spend hours thinking about them just to enjoy the show fully the show has already failed as far as I am concerned.


How is that a sign that the show has failed? By producing a complex character which requires some brain function to understand? That's just sad, branding an anime bad, because it produced something that required the person watching to actually think, not just already knowing every aspect of the character by the time they finish their first sentance.
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Do hentai counts?

why not ?
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patsuan said:
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/Shrug. Dont apply your limits to others I guess.

Also, if a character requires me to spend hours thinking about them just to enjoy the show fully the show has already failed as far as I am concerned.


How is that a sign that the show has failed? By producing a complex character which requires some brain function to understand? That's just sad, branding an anime bad, because it produced something that required the person watching to actually think, not just already knowing every aspect of the character by the time they finish their first sentance.


Again, please dont apply your limits to me. Ive never had trouble getting a VERY solid grasp on characters whilst watching a show. You may find that you need to examine shows for hours afterwards frequently just to understand the characters. I do not experience that, or in the cases I DO experience that, I am likely to enjoy the show so much it becomes one of those favorites I mentioned. My point was meant to be that if a show could only be enjoyed by forcing me to spend hours afterwards thinking about it, it was far to convoluted for me to enjoy anyway.

I probably should not have said enjoy the show 'fully' I will admit that. I meant to enjoy the show at ALL. That was a mistake in how I worded my response, and sorry for that,
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I probably should not have said enjoy the show 'fully' I will admit that. I meant to enjoy the show at ALL. That was a mistake in how I worded my response, and sorry for that,


I agree with you on this, if the key to enjoying the show at all lies within hours of character analysis then it has failed, and there's no need for apologising. All in good fun :D
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patsuan said:
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I probably should not have said enjoy the show 'fully' I will admit that. I meant to enjoy the show at ALL. That was a mistake in how I worded my response, and sorry for that,


I agree with you on this, if the key to enjoying the show at all lies within hours of character analysis then it has failed, and there's no need for apologising. All in good fun :D


Yea, once you pointed it out I realized I looked pretty stupid having worded it the way I did lol. Ohwell, I am glad you get what I was trying to say now. In regards to the original topic, I just find that the most memorable shows get thought about constantly whether or not you move onto another show straight away. I guess I just find it doesnt hurt those shows, and any shows other than those arent shows I want to spend lots of time thinking about(Well, they might be but not instead of those truly great shows)
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ChutaZepa said:
In other words, these people don't just watch as fast as possible, they also watch everything possible! Even if they know most of the stuff nobody has heard of is no good, and this also shows in their ratings which have more 4-5 than 8-9. I simply don't understand what goes in these peoples minds.


Not necessarily true. There's plenty of hidden gems out there that keep low profile and remain under the radar, and it's ultimately up to the person's personal preference/tastes. As for people who only hand out low scores, I can't say I understand that either. That's like playing Call of Duty just to scream at it every time you die.

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If you have time to think about their actions, or beliefs, you start to know the character better, which can lead to a more enjoyable conclusion. I'm not against marathoning anime in any way, since I do that a lot too, but from experience I can tell you that I got more out of those shows which I had watched during an extended period of time.


That's why I always review a series in depth after I finish it, so I can really bring out what I can take away from it. I also definitely agree on savoring a series, I did that with Aria and it was a godsend - like watching your children grow up.
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Wasting time on anime is no different from wasting time watching TV, watching porn, playing games, and pretty much anything considered modern entertainment.


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Are you grumpy?

I don't really understand how you can be bothered with this.


The main reasons are two: first, I can't mention anywhere being an anime fan and hoping for intelligent discussions about its timeless classics without someone popping up and asking what currently airing series I am watching. Most of the time the answer is none, because only a handful of worthwhile series get produced each year. It gets really awkward. People who are annoyed with narutards in anime conventions know what I'm talking about; just substitute Naruto with "currently airing series". It's like people expect you to follow every trend current and label you as boring if you don't.

The second is more profound, people who are quick to substitute anything perceived as boring with something entertaining do not learn anything from the things they watch. Some of the greatest experiences I've had with anime have also taught me things about life: the value of compassion etc. If you just gloss over pure entertainment -type shows then where are you going to get these profound realisations, since for most people they don't come naturally? You end up treating people like anime, preferring quantity over quality, casting away everything every now and then since you don't feel much attachment to anything, and don't grasp a reason to feel so. This is a huge problem with society. And this definitely is not a straw man made up by me, I know plenty of these people to know what I'm talking about. Note that I don't think it's the anime they watch that causes this behavior, rather their anime&media habits is what is preventing them from waking up into reality, like the mindless mass-entertainment in Orwell's dystopia. They are essentially stuck in primitive "survival of the fittest" mentality not having had the opportunity to be really civilised.
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ChutaZepa said:
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Are you grumpy?

I don't really understand how you can be bothered with this.


Most of the time the answer is none, because only a handful of worthwhile series get produced each year.


If you really believe only a 'handful' of series each year are 'worthwhile' then thats about 240 episodes a year. After some quick basic math, if I were to do it that way without reducing my overall time on anime, id spend near 2000 hours every year just thinking about those anime. Totally not necessary.

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where are you going to get these profound realisations, since for most people they don't come naturally?


Just because I go through thousands of other episodes doesnt mean the 240 'worthwhile' episodes get neglected. I dont understand why you think that watching a lot of extra shows means the best stuff ceases to exist, or does not get the attention it deserves. I still get to think about the really good shows, the ones that teach lessons or are just more powerful emotionally and make you think about life in general.

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You end up treating people like anime, preferring quantity over quality, casting away everything every now and then since you don't feel much attachment to anything, and don't grasp a reason to feel so. .


Seriously, speak for yourself. If you find that not spending hours thinking about what anime you watch makes you need a large quantity of friends instead of a smaller group of quality friends, spend hours thinking about anime. Honestly though, if you think most people have that problem you are deluding yourself.

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This is a huge problem with society. And this definitely is not a straw man made up by me, I know plenty of these people to know what I'm talking about..


The situation may not be a straw man, but the CAUSE is sure as hell a straw man thought up by you. If you want to look for a cause as to why some people treat quantity of friends as > quality of friends, at least pick something even remotely reasonable like facebook and social media.
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Even if they know most of the stuff nobody has heard of is no good,

You have no idea how entertainment works, do you?

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ChutaZepa said:
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Are you grumpy?

I don't really understand how you can be bothered with this.


The main reasons are two: first, I can't mention anywhere being an anime fan and hoping for intelligent discussions about its timeless classics without someone popping up and asking what currently airing series I am watching. Most of the time the answer is none, because only a handful of worthwhile series get produced each year. It gets really awkward. People who are annoyed with narutards in anime conventions know what I'm talking about; just substitute Naruto with "currently airing series". It's like people expect you to follow every trend current and label you as boring if you don't.

How is this a problem? Just ignore them if they make stupid conclusions like that.
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The second is more profound, people who are quick to substitute anything perceived as boring with something entertaining do not learn anything from the things they watch. Some of the greatest experiences I've had with anime have also taught me things about life: the value of compassion etc. If you just gloss over pure entertainment -type shows then where are you going to get these profound realisations, since for most people they don't come naturally? You end up treating people like anime, preferring quantity over quality, casting away everything every now and then since you don't feel much attachment to anything, and don't grasp a reason to feel so. This is a huge problem with society. And this definitely is not a straw man made up by me, I know plenty of these people to know what I'm talking about. Note that I don't think it's the anime they watch that causes this behavior, rather their anime&media habits is what is preventing them from waking up into reality, like the mindless mass-entertainment in Orwell's dystopia. They are essentially stuck in primitive "survival of the fittest" mentality not having had the opportunity to be really civilised.

So you're saying enjoying fun things means being controlled by the media? That only thought-provoking and "deep" anime is worth watching? That's rather ignorant of you.

Oh, and this has absolutely nothing to do with how much anime someone has watched anyway. So you kind of went off-topic.
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If you were to spend 2-3 hours each night only watching currently airing series p, you can easily get through 20+ series a season. That's easily 80+ anime a year, so it's not overly hard to rack up high numbers if you've watched for a few years.
Also while 150 series come out every year, over 100 hentai come out every year. Watch one hentai a day, or even one hentai episode a day, and that could be 100 - 365 series a year.
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I think you're right that some people watch at a rate a machine would. But I don't think they do it without feeling for what they see. If anything I would think they feel more because they watch so much. I actually admire someone who can watch that much because that means 2 things

1. They really love anime (more than just kinda liking it)
2. Their life has got to be good if they have that much free time

Anyone who can be that serious about what they love has got to be awesome.
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2. Their life has got to be good if they have that much free time


Thats actually surprisingly untrue, but anyway..
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Wasting time on anime is no different from wasting time watching TV, watching porn, playing games, and pretty much anything considered modern entertainment.


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miereneronaile said:
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2. Their life has got to be good if they have that much free time


Thats actually surprisingly untrue, but anyway..


This misconception that high anime completion = watch anime all day is ridiculous.
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its just you. i usually marathon the 3deep5u shows and savour the deliciousness of cute girls x things. and i think about the more serious shows more often while when i'm done a moeshit sol its done and forgotten but i enjoy those moeshit sols.
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