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Oct 25, 2013 2:47 PM
#51
AKB0048 strong! (yeah, I know) Pretty nice results. |
Oct 25, 2013 3:40 PM
#52
Oct 25, 2013 3:42 PM
#53
Litrydow said: ihateeveryone said: And WHY are you even comparing Karneval to SnK??? Why???? SnK is longer than Karneval and is a totally different demographic and genre and everything. Like, where's the comparison coming from? From their quality, they're on the same level. Sure, if that's your opinion. But that doesn't mean Karneval had as big an impact as SnK did when it aired. I guess that's the root of this discussion's problem. I'm not very surprised by the awards given, but I'm glad Miyazaki got one. |
Oct 25, 2013 3:45 PM
#54
Nabris said: Litrydow said: ihateeveryone said: And WHY are you even comparing Karneval to SnK??? Why???? SnK is longer than Karneval and is a totally different demographic and genre and everything. Like, where's the comparison coming from? From their quality, they're on the same level. Sure, if that's your opinion. But that doesn't mean Karneval had as big an impact as SnK did when it aired. I guess that's the root of this discussion's problem. And why is popularity that important when giving an award? Shouldn't it be based on quality? |
Oct 25, 2013 3:57 PM
#55
Litrydow said: Nabris said: Litrydow said: ihateeveryone said: And WHY are you even comparing Karneval to SnK??? Why???? SnK is longer than Karneval and is a totally different demographic and genre and everything. Like, where's the comparison coming from? From their quality, they're on the same level. Sure, if that's your opinion. But that doesn't mean Karneval had as big an impact as SnK did when it aired. I guess that's the root of this discussion's problem. And why is popularity that important when giving an award? Shouldn't it be based on quality? Exactly. I agree with Litrydow. Awards should be given based on quality not popularity. And Karneval and SnK are basically equal on quality. If awards would be based on popularity, SAO would have won. |
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Oct 25, 2013 3:57 PM
#56
I wonder what other anime were considered for Best TV Series this year. Is there a list of nominees, 2nd/3rd place, honorable mentions or something? |
Oct 25, 2013 4:12 PM
#57
Well pretty good list ^_^ congratulations to them :D |
Oct 25, 2013 4:25 PM
#58
Litrydow said: Nabris said: Litrydow said: ihateeveryone said: And WHY are you even comparing Karneval to SnK??? Why???? SnK is longer than Karneval and is a totally different demographic and genre and everything. Like, where's the comparison coming from? From their quality, they're on the same level. Sure, if that's your opinion. But that doesn't mean Karneval had as big an impact as SnK did when it aired. I guess that's the root of this discussion's problem. And why is popularity that important when giving an award? Shouldn't it be based on quality? Because Animation Kobe's awards are basically based off of the popularity of the show, not the quality. If you look at the titles that have won over the years, almost all the winners were/are some of the most popular anime. Last year Yuru Yuri won the Best Anime award; the year before that, Madoka won; the year before that, K-ON!! won. I'm not saying SnK deserves the award simply because it's popular - I'm saying it won because it's popular. |
NabrisOct 25, 2013 4:30 PM
Oct 25, 2013 6:32 PM
#59
A little disappointed SnK won best TV series award, though like others before have said, it's to be expected. As one currently reading the manga, I can say that while the initial story is interesting, it really isn't the best series out there for the past year, both for manga and anime as well I'm sure. The Suisei no Gargantia and Hataraku Maou-sama anime in my opinion are better quality than the SnK manga, and are more worthy of the award, especially since they aren't typical shounens, but in the end, it only really matters to the receiver and possibly some of the non-receivers of the award. An award isn't going to effect my opinion, and I'm already over my slight disappointment. So, anyone who's displeased over the results, just go read or watch some of your favorite series and cool down. The results aren't going to have an effect on you, so there's no need to start something over any of these kinds of things. |
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Oct 25, 2013 6:48 PM
#60
Congratulations for the winners. |
Oct 25, 2013 7:05 PM
#62
Nothing surprising, that's good. |
Oct 25, 2013 8:06 PM
#63
I'm surprised its taken this long for Miyazaki to get a lifetime achievement award. I'm curious about others that have won this award in the past... |
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Oct 25, 2013 8:06 PM
#64
All expected and well deserved! Congrats to the winners! Especially with Miyazaki's award! Top achievement! |
Oct 25, 2013 9:50 PM
#65
Supergrunt8 said: As for the best theme song, Attack on Titans op isn't bad, its very representative of the anime and stuff. But isn't something I would listen to on my device. I for one do like the 1st op only for the 1:30. I do not like the rest of the song. I think the 2nd op is way better than the first and the whole song is just amazing. |
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Oct 25, 2013 10:31 PM
#67
Glad to see Tsutomu Mizushima get the recognition he deserves. I've been a fan of his for long, long time now. One of the best comedic directors out there right now and he showed with GaruPan that he can step outside of that zone as well and deliver an extremely polished product. |
Oct 25, 2013 10:33 PM
#68
Every single one of the awards were definitely deserving, great job! I think that, apart from the the series obviously winning the popularity contest by a mile, the biggest reason SnK deserves that title is because it is THE most ambitious anime of the year, and it definitely showed the good and bad aspects of that ambition. Still, it was a vision that was too great to 'wow' everyone. But the important thing is that all of SnK's mistakes are only mistakes that brings down itself, but the successful things it's achieved has made leaps for the industry in many ways. |
Oct 25, 2013 11:54 PM
#70
battosai-01 said: It's once every 100 years starting with MiyazakiI'm surprised its taken this long for Miyazaki to get a lifetime achievement award. I'm curious about others that have won this award in the past... |
Oct 26, 2013 2:15 AM
#71
Whoah~ SnK did it again! Congrats!!! ^o^ I did love Guren no Yumiya but best theme song for me was Take Your Way (Devil Survivor 2 OP) |
Oct 26, 2013 4:03 AM
#72
Best TV Series Shingeki no Kyojin Best Theme Song Guren no Yumiya (Shingeki no Kyojin) Lifetime Achievement Award Miyazaki Hayao Congratz :) |
Oct 26, 2013 6:20 AM
#73
moomoonya1 said: But the fact is the panel has clearly explained why they gave the award to SnK and the reasons they cited are much more just popularity.Exactly. I agree with Litrydow. Awards should be given based on quality not popularity. And Karneval and SnK are basically equal on quality. If awards would be based on popularity, SAO would have won. |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Oct 26, 2013 6:23 AM
#74
symbv said: moomoonya1 said: But the fact is the panel has clearly explained why they gave the award to SnK and the reasons they cited are much more just popularity.Exactly. I agree with Litrydow. Awards should be given based on quality not popularity. And Karneval and SnK are basically equal on quality. If awards would be based on popularity, SAO would have won. Then why didn't Karneval win? |
Oct 26, 2013 6:32 AM
#75
Litrydow said: Why didn't Gargantia win? Why didn't UtaPrince win? Why didn't Love Live win? Why didn't Girls und Panzer win? Why didn't Psycho-pass win? They are all popular too. Then why didn't Karneval win? As the saying goes, there are always more entries who deserve to win but there is just one award. This is the case we see time and again in competition, from Olympics to Tony award to this one. The point is to keep a big heart and not to bitch around just because your favorite did not win. |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Oct 26, 2013 6:33 AM
#76
Litrydow said: symbv said: moomoonya1 said: But the fact is the panel has clearly explained why they gave the award to SnK and the reasons they cited are much more just popularity.Exactly. I agree with Litrydow. Awards should be given based on quality not popularity. And Karneval and SnK are basically equal on quality. If awards would be based on popularity, SAO would have won. Then why didn't Karneval win? Karneval =/= SnK Both have their own unique charm, but SnK has more impact than Karneval, and its what draws more attention to it than Karneval's. I mean, just look at the huge fanbase for that matter. |
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Oct 26, 2013 8:59 AM
#78
symbv said: Litrydow said: Why didn't Gargantia win? Why didn't UtaPrince win? Why didn't Love Live win? Why didn't Girls und Panzer win? Why didn't Psycho-pass win? They are all popular too. Then why didn't Karneval win? As the saying goes, there are always more entries who deserve to win but there is just one award. This is the case we see time and again in competition, from Olympics to Tony award to this one. The point is to keep a big heart and not to bitch around just because your favorite did not win. Yeah true, but, when your favorite anime is always beat by the same anime over and over, you can get pretty irritated. Now, if something else other than SnK won, I would have been fine, because there is other anime that deserve awards, not just SnK. You see my point? When the same anime keeps winning, it gets irritating. I want to see some variety. This is just telling me that "supposedly" there is no other best anime than SnK. How about Free? Not that I like it, but lots of other people do, and that popularity rose to the top. So why didn't Free win? Supposedly it has twists and stuff even though it's just a a swimming anime. SnK is NOT the best anime. It is far from it. |
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Oct 26, 2013 9:45 AM
#79
moomoonya1 said: Well, that is life, right? Once in a while there is something that is super-popular and it sweeps the board with everything. When was the last time an anime got as hugely popular as SnK? I remember Madoka and it won even more awards than SnK, a lot more. This is the flipside of a super popular anime, as it deprives other anime as deserved of opportunity to win. That is the reality. Yeah true, but, when your favorite anime is always beat by the same anime over and over, you can get pretty irritated. Now, if something else other than SnK won, I would have been fine, because there is other anime that deserve awards, not just SnK. You see my point? When the same anime keeps winning, it gets irritating. I want to see some variety. moomoonya1 said: Personally I don't think it is the best either and I do not even put it very high place either, but did I bitch and complain incessantly about its winning some award?? No. And the reasons that the panel gave for its win are pretty convincing, as far as whether it is deserved (and as I said, there are more deserved anime than the number of award), so why not let go instead of keep coming in every day to spew bitter words??SnK is NOT the best anime. It is far from it. |
symbvOct 26, 2013 6:15 PM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Oct 26, 2013 9:57 AM
#80
Congratz "The Garden of Words" best movie i've watched this year |
Oct 26, 2013 12:11 PM
#81
symbv said: moomoonya1 said: Well, that is life, right? Once in a while there is something that is super-popular and it sweeps the board with everything. When was the last time an anime got as hugely popular as SnK? I remember Madoka and it won even more awards than SnK, a lot more. This is the flipside of a super popular anime, as it deprives other anime as deserved of opportunity to win. That is the reality. Yeah true, but, when your favorite anime is always beat by the same anime over and over, you can get pretty irritated. Now, if something else other than SnK won, I would have been fine, because there is other anime that deserve awards, not just SnK. You see my point? When the same anime keeps winning, it gets irritating. I want to see some variety. moomoonya1 said: Personally I don't think it is the best either and I do not even put it very high place either, but did I bitch and complain incessantly about its winning some award?? No. And the reasons that the panel gave for its win are pretty convincing, as far as whether it is deserved (and as I said, there are more deserved anime than the number of award), so why not let go and keep coming in every day to spew bitter words??SnK is NOT the best anime. It is far from it. I'm aloud to post on forums. I can voice my opinion if I want to, and most of the time, I don't say it in the nicest ways. Trust me, I'm nice, it's just that people anger me so easily, which is the reason why I don't have many friends on here, and why I don't talk to hardly anyone on here. Unless of course, the person comments something kind or wants to know something about a certain anime/manga. |
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Oct 26, 2013 1:35 PM
#82
moomoonya1 said: I'm aloud to post on forums. I can voice my opinion if I want to, and most of the time, I don't say it in the nicest ways. Trust me, I'm nice, it's just that people anger me so easily, which is the reason why I don't have many friends on here, and why I don't talk to hardly anyone on here. Unless of course, the person comments something kind or wants to know something about a certain anime/manga. Thats the thing, even though anyone and everyone can post their opinions in these or any threads, how you post it is also very important. Just as you said, "I dont say it in the nicest ways" and while I can clearly understand that you are just stating your own opinions, at a first glance some of your posts can be very easily misinterpreted, hence why when you post the way you do, it tends to lead to alot of "heated" debates (not the good kind), which ruin the thread for other ppl and sometimes even force the mods to "clean" the thread or worse lock it. If your just irritated that something you like didnt win, I'm sure there are better places to "vent" your feelings. If you go and shout with anger that this anime sucks and this anime is better among a large group of anime fans, the fans who feel otherwise will definitely fight back, which then leads to an argument with both sides shouting and screaming at each other and neither side listening to someone whos trying to be neutral and make sense w/o letting their own opinions get in their way. When this "battle" goes on long enough or goes "too far", obviously all the other fans among the crowd would find it annoying and would ofc prefer it if the ppl "fighting" would just take it somewhere else, especially if neither side is trying to look at it from a perspective beyong their own opinion. Personally, I think adding simple words such as "I", "IMO" or "Personally" would go very far in creating more "clean" debates w/o each side directly "attacking" each other. Ofc it depends on how the person sees your post, and how he/she himself/herself usually posts, but "I dont think/believe xxxx anime deserves this award" and "This xxxx anime doesnt deserve this award" From how I see it, the first sentence makes it much easier to have a nice clean debate on why you think like that if I feel otherwise. While the 2nd one makes it look like you are generalising your opinion or trying to pass off your opinion as a fact, which ofc would make the ppl who feel otherwise angry. After all, no one person can nor has the ability to define an anime's "quality", let alone what it deserves. Also, most ppl tend to forget that animes are primarily a source of entertainment. |
AdolTheRedOct 26, 2013 2:00 PM
Oct 26, 2013 3:24 PM
#83
moomoonya1 said: symbv said: Litrydow said: Why didn't Gargantia win? Why didn't UtaPrince win? Why didn't Love Live win? Why didn't Girls und Panzer win? Why didn't Psycho-pass win? They are all popular too. Then why didn't Karneval win? As the saying goes, there are always more entries who deserve to win but there is just one award. This is the case we see time and again in competition, from Olympics to Tony award to this one. The point is to keep a big heart and not to bitch around just because your favorite did not win. Yeah true, but, when your favorite anime is always beat by the same anime over and over, you can get pretty irritated. Now, if something else other than SnK won, I would have been fine, because there is other anime that deserve awards, not just SnK. You see my point? When the same anime keeps winning, it gets irritating. I want to see some variety. This is just telling me that "supposedly" there is no other best anime than SnK. How about Free? Not that I like it, but lots of other people do, and that popularity rose to the top. So why didn't Free win? Supposedly it has twists and stuff even though it's just a a swimming anime. SnK is NOT the best anime. It is far from it. Then I rather suggest you also make your own blog about it, if only to vent out your frustrations. Don't worry, someone's bound to reply you with how vocal you can be with your feelings about it. Aaaaaanyway.... I'm glad Miyazaki is further recognized for his achievements for helping develop anime into what it is today. And yeah, as expected of a popular series like SnK to get an award, at least. |
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Oct 26, 2013 5:11 PM
#84
First, I congratulate all the winners. Even though none of my favorites are there, but I respect them. Second, it's only natural for people to get disappointed just because their favorite animes didn't get award. But whining around, dragging the discussion, even giving false assumption with ad hominem, is really irritating. Our opinion didn't matter much. Our favorite anime is just another anime and our opinion is just another opinion. Please understand what I'm saying. |
Oct 26, 2013 6:13 PM
#85
moomoonya1 said: This is the kind of defense even irresponsible or troll posters use but does it mean that you can say anything you like and people are not allowed to respond or react against the comments you make? Remember you are in a FORUM, which is interactive by definition, meaning people interact with each other's comments. So if you write something that is provocative or you make some arguments that do not make sense, you should be prepared that people would take you to task and challenge the statement you made. I'm aloud to post on forums. I can voice my opinion if I want to, and most of the time, I don't say it in the nicest ways. moomoonya1 said: I am sure a lot of trolls can be nice people in private too, but the thing is all of us can only tell who you are by what you say online. It is very unlikely we will be able to meet you in private to see how nice you really are. So who you are here is defined by what you say here.Trust me, I'm nice. |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Oct 27, 2013 7:47 AM
#86
Congrats to them ^__^ I kinda expected SnK and Guren no Yumiya :3 |
Oct 27, 2013 3:11 PM
#87
Worthy winners indeed. I'm glad Production IG's hardwork paid off. I still can't get over how well they adapted SnK. Congratulations to Miyazaki Hayao. Lifetime achievement award :D Totally deserving! |
Oct 27, 2013 4:13 PM
#88
symbv said: moomoonya1 said: This is the kind of defense even irresponsible or troll posters use but does it mean that you can say anything you like and people are not allowed to respond or react against the comments you make? Remember you are in a FORUM, which is interactive by definition, meaning people interact with each other's comments. So if you write something that is provocative or you make some arguments that do not make sense, you should be prepared that people would take you to task and challenge the statement you made. I'm aloud to post on forums. I can voice my opinion if I want to, and most of the time, I don't say it in the nicest ways. moomoonya1 said: I am sure a lot of trolls can be nice people in private too, but the thing is all of us can only tell who you are by what you say online. It is very unlikely we will be able to meet you in private to see how nice you really are. So who you are here is defined by what you say here.Trust me, I'm nice. No, I'm not talking about in private. I mean everywhere. Internet and real life. It's just that the people on the internet is what makes me so mad. |
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Oct 27, 2013 7:59 PM
#89
moomoonya1 said: I know, but the thing is you did not come out as being nice on internet, at least from how you behaved in this thread. So if you are telling me that you are really nice, people do not see strong evidence to believe you; then it just leaves the possibility that you are really nice in private, and for that I have already explained that even if true it does not hold much water as long as we only know you from internet. And so far I did not see why you should have got mad from posts made in this thread in the first place - if you could get mad just because of the posts here, you might want to think twice before posting because you may be a bit too sensitive to people's comment and your reaction due to your "being mad" is likely to provoke people who then challenge your tone, and a negative spiral will form - and you will just keep getting mad (or madder).No, I'm not talking about in private. I mean everywhere. Internet and real life. It's just that the people on the internet is what makes me so mad. |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Oct 27, 2013 8:10 PM
#90
symbv said: moomoonya1 said: I know, but the thing is you did not come out as being nice on internet, at least from how you behaved in this thread. So if you are telling me that you are really nice, people do not see strong evidence to believe you; then it just leaves the possibility that you are really nice in private, and for that I have already explained that even if true it does not hold much water as long as we only know you from internet. And so far I did not see why you should have got mad from posts made in this thread in the first place - if you could get mad just because of the posts here, you might want to think twice before posting because you may be a bit too sensitive to people's comment and your reaction due to your "being mad" is likely to provoke people who then challenge your tone, and a negative spiral will form - and you will just keep getting mad (or madder).No, I'm not talking about in private. I mean everywhere. Internet and real life. It's just that the people on the internet is what makes me so mad. The thing is, I try and make friends on here with people who have the same interests as me, and stuff like that. But when I make a single review, I get a ton of hate comments because I gave it a 7. And yes, I know I behaved inappropriately, but I was just angry that, yet again, SnK is being praised as the best of the year. So, I'm sorry for behaving inappropriately. |
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Oct 27, 2013 8:19 PM
#91
moomoonya1 said: If all you want is to make friends who share the same taste as you are, perhaps it is better to join clubs instead of posting reviews, because reviews, where you give praises and criticisms (and often even with a score), are likely to draw people who disagree with the praises or criticisms, and debate would ensue. And if those people are not being nice, then arguments, bickering and flame war become likely. At least in a club people are sharing their love about a certain thing, be it a genre or a particular anime, it is much easier to make friends this way. The thing is, I try and make friends on here with people who have the same interests as me, and stuff like that. But when I make a single review, I get a ton of hate comments because I gave it a 7. moomoonya1 said: Thanks for your understanding. I wish you the best of luck (and joy) finding fellow friends in this forum.And yes, I know I behaved inappropriately, but I was just angry that, yet again, SnK is being praised as the best of the year. So, I'm sorry for behaving inappropriately. |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Oct 27, 2013 10:59 PM
#92
Best TV Series Shingeki no Kyojin Everyone saw that one coming. |
Oct 28, 2013 12:45 AM
#93
Mikenzb said: Best TV Series Shingeki no Kyojin Everyone saw that one coming. It was inevitable. SnK was really that good imo. Well deserved. |
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Oct 28, 2013 12:53 AM
#94
One thing I want to STRESS AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN is that people who know little about this award would assert that the award is just for popularity not for (however subjectively and emotionally defined) "quality", but there are clear outlines from the award panel about the standard they use to judge for an award. In the best title (TV series or movie) there is the outline stated: 表現手法として、セルアニメーション、クレイアニメーション、3DCGアニメーション、またはそれらを複合的に利用した手法など表現手法は限定しないが、エンターテインメント作品に限る。高い作品性、企画の新規性、オリジナル性、デジタル技術の応用などの新しい試みによる市場創造性を有する作品を特に高く評価する。また、国内制作・海外制作を問わないが、国内の人材育成に寄与する作品をより高く評価する。 The key points that stand out are: - it has to be a product for entertainment. How entertaining is considered an important factor - how much it makes use of various knowhow and appeal of the work (great story, new idea in project execution, originality, state of the art animation technology etc) to *create new market* is a key consideration too. - although foreign works will also be considered, it must have made a substantial contribution to building up talent base in Japan. Even though some of the criteria will translate into "popularity", here they are spelled out clearly in terms that is more than just "it sells well" or "it is popular". Instead a heavy emphasis is placed on linking both popularity and technical achievement (and not just on the animation itself but the whole project). |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Oct 28, 2013 2:34 AM
#95
Well deserved. |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
Oct 28, 2013 6:31 PM
#96
-MgZ_ said: Worthy winners indeed. I'm glad Production IG's hardwork paid off. I still can't get over how well they adapted SnK. Congratulations to Miyazaki Hayao. Lifetime achievement award :D Totally deserving! Shouldn't it be WIT Studios, not Production IG? Or did they co-op on this project, with WIT getting more of the fame? Or Production IG owns WIT? |
Oct 28, 2013 7:12 PM
#97
@symbv: Do you know what reasons were given for Kotonoha no Niwa or what other movies were considered? I didn't think it was that great so I'm a bit surprised. Sorry if it was already posted somewhere, I didn't want to go through five pages of Karneval and SnK bashing/praising. |
I probably regret this post by now. |
Oct 28, 2013 7:34 PM
#98
I vehemently disagree with this. Ookami Kodomo should've gotten it. Higashi_no_Kaze said: @symbv: Do you know what reasons were given for Kotonoha no Niwa or what other movies were considered? I didn't think it was that great so I'm a bit surprised. Sorry if it was already posted somewhere, I didn't want to go through five pages of Karneval and SnK bashing/praising. Preach it, buddy. Kotonoha no Niwa was subpar at best. |
yamagoopOct 28, 2013 7:38 PM
Oct 28, 2013 8:30 PM
#99
Higashi_no_Kaze said: The standard for the prize given to Kotonoha no Niwa is the same as the one given to Shingeki (which I stated here: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=681047&show=80#msg26014567b ) As for the specific reasons to give the Movie Award to this movie, it can be summarized as follows:@symbv: Do you know what reasons were given for Kotonoha no Niwa or what other movies were considered? I didn't think it was that great so I'm a bit surprised. - It brings to us the attention of the everyday beauty so close to us and so easily missed by us. It reminds us to care about what surrounds us: The streets, the landscape, the interaction with people. - The intricate details and tireless effort that Shinkai put into depicting scene after scene of background of nuances of green that contrast with the subtlety of interactions and shifts in feelings during the process of communication for the couple who are trying to find their places is superbly done . As an example, it is hard to say we have seen such beautiful depiction of the rainy season in anime before. - This work is maximizing how beauty can be expressed in anime, and it gives everyone the courage and strength to face tomorrow and the future, and it also tells everyone how beautiful it is for this place that is called Japan. There is no list of shortlisted films. The standard only mentions what works are eligible: Any animation aired between 2012 Sep to2013 Aug As I said before, as much as I would say some other film may be better in my opinion, I also think many films are deserved, and this includes Kotonoha ni Niwa. And this is FAR FROM SUBPAR - the reasons given by the panel are also pretty convincing to me. |
symbvOct 28, 2013 8:36 PM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Oct 29, 2013 4:04 PM
#100
Thanks as always for the insight. I can't argue with the backgrounds, they were definitely superb. I just found without them the story and characters weren't particularly original or exciting, that's all. Not that I disliked it, I was just more impressed by other movies. @itsvero: Ookami Kodomo aired in the middle of 2012 so it wasn't even eligible I guess. I would have loved to see Aura or Berserk III win though. Were short movies like Little Witch Academia also eligible? |
I probably regret this post by now. |
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