Tomoki_Sakurai said: You can't steal it, if it isn't there.Drunk_Samurai said: Tomoki_Sakurai said: Drunk_Samurai said: Tomoki_Sakurai said: Drunk_Samurai said: Tomoki_Sakurai said: User-namae said: The way I see things is that, if I lived in Japan, I could watch the anime on TV for free (well, for however much I'm paying the TV company, but you get what I'm saying.). I could watch it once, and then decide whether to buy the DVDs. However, in America anime of course does not run on TV and I refuse to pay for episodes of a show I might not even like. So the way I see it is that watching stuff online for free is the equivalent to watching it on TV for the first time, and if I ever want to rewatch a series that isn't on Crunchyroll, I'll pay for the DVDs if they're in America. However your viewing of it illegally gives the creators no revenue as it does on T.V. The problem with stealing foreign media is that it not so much hurts the country you steal it from, but more so the economy in every other country. Therefore the shows that eventually become legal to view later are not watched by the piraters that already watched it. That means the company legally showing it might charge more for it or stop allowing it to be shown because its not worth the cost. That then goes back to the original company that created the anime and gives them less revenue from overseas. It all hurts the original creators in the end regardless of where you are from. Copyright infringement is not theft and its complete bullshit to say pirates don't buy series they already watched. #1 I never said Piraters never buy anime. #2 Never talked about copyright Infringement. 1) Yeah you actually did: "Therefore the shows that eventually become legal to view later are not watched by the piraters that already watched it. " 2) You said the word stealing twice. "The problem with stealing foreign media is that it not so much hurts the country you steal it from, but more so the economy in every other country. " When you download something you are not stealing anything. lust4anime said: and then what really pisses me off is these so called *air quotes* anime fans You don't need to buy something in order to be a fan of something. 1.When I say "Therefore the shows that eventually become legal to view later are not watched by the piraters that already watched it. " I am talking about digitally on sites that legally own it. 2. If you think stealing is void simply because it is online then you obviously have a warped thought process. It actually is since copyright infringement is not theft. Both legally and dictionary definition wise. In order for something to be stealing something has to actually be taken. Copyright infringement makes a COPY of something while the original is still there. So because its not physical its not stealing? Justify it any way you want, but that is a lousy excuse. Fight the power man, digital merchandise is just another way for the corporations to tax you. |
| The whole "is or isn't piracy stealing," debate is really tiresome. I wish more pirates would just admit that they are assholes, instead of hiding behind half-baked justifications. I pirate, because I'm an asshole. There, that wasn't so hard, was it? The first step is acceptance. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
Araby said: No. You're a good honest hard working citizen who deserves a break from the daily grind.The whole "is or isn't piracy stealing," debate is really tiresome. I wish more pirates would just admit that they are assholes, instead of hiding behind half-baked justifications. I pirate, because I'm an asshole. There, that wasn't so hard, was it? The first step is acceptance. |
Araby said: I wish more pirates would just admit that they are assholes, instead of hiding behind half-baked justifications. I pirate, because I'm an asshole. There, that wasn't so hard, was it? The first step is acceptance. I'd rather walk the plank. |
Tomoki_Sakurai said: So because its not physical its not stealing? Justify it any way you want, but that is a lousy excuse. Except that its a fact it isn't. If the original is gone then its theft. If you're just making a copy of something then its copyright infringement. Araby said: The whole "is or isn't piracy stealing," debate is really tiresome. I wish more pirates would just admit that they are assholes, instead of hiding behind half-baked justifications. I pirate, because I'm an asshole. There, that wasn't so hard, was it? The first step is acceptance. Who said it was a justification? I'm just correcting people who are using the words theft and stealing wrong. I can easily justify anime and manga piracy if you want me to though. |
| There are two types of pirates, those with excuses and those without shame. I know people who openly know it is wrong to do this, yet they really don't care. Some of these people have plenty of money as well and it wouldn't hurt them financially a bit. I don't care if someone torrents Anime that is Japan only. I also don't care if they torrent Anime that is OOP. Buying circulated used copies doesn't do anything for the industry. It just ups the values of people's collections like the youtuber above. I honestly don't get too butt hurt, except about the richer people who know they could just go on amazon and buy the Anime but don't. They can love the Anime at the end, but still refuse to give it a dime like it is their right to enjoy something completely for free. I think the youtuber above is probably more butthurt that he has spent 1000s of dollars on his collection, while others flaunt the same things he has for free. I wish more Anime sets had better presentation. I know they are kept simple to keep it cheap, but the more effort/beauty you put into the more you separate a file on your computer from the actual product. For Example, The Dragon Boxes are stunning. I could go and download or stream DBZ, but the quality wouldn't be 100% as good and the beautiful packaging/hardcover books it comes with wouldn't be on my shelf. On the other hand I see these dvd sets that are literally clam shell boxes with dvds stacked on top of eachother. That is extremely ugly to me and it puts me off. I enjoy supporting the creators and people who bring Anime legally to us, but you have to put some effort. Ugly packaging might as well be files on my computer because both are unappealing. |
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RichtheLionheart said: What about pirates who feel ashamed, but not to an extent which would motivate a change of behaviour? Surely that describes how most people with any amount of self-awareness regard the majority of their regrettable behaviours. Also, what are you trying to imply about those without shame?There are two types of pirates, those with excuses and those without shame. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| Does nobody actually realize how much money goes to the original authors of the work and how much of the money actually goes to the manufacturers? An author friend of mine once told me that he gets no more than $0.13 per book that was sold of his, the rest of the money went to the manufacturer. Who knows what it's like for that studios that make anime? I think those figures should go into consideration when people are getting all butt hurt about pirating. |
| The japanese get to watch anime for free on T.V. Why cant i watch them for free just cause im in a foreign country |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Drunk_Samurai said: Tomoki_Sakurai said: Drunk_Samurai said: Tomoki_Sakurai said: User-namae said: The way I see things is that, if I lived in Japan, I could watch the anime on TV for free (well, for however much I'm paying the TV company, but you get what I'm saying.). I could watch it once, and then decide whether to buy the DVDs. However, in America anime of course does not run on TV and I refuse to pay for episodes of a show I might not even like. So the way I see it is that watching stuff online for free is the equivalent to watching it on TV for the first time, and if I ever want to rewatch a series that isn't on Crunchyroll, I'll pay for the DVDs if they're in America. However your viewing of it illegally gives the creators no revenue as it does on T.V. The problem with stealing foreign media is that it not so much hurts the country you steal it from, but more so the economy in every other country. Therefore the shows that eventually become legal to view later are not watched by the piraters that already watched it. That means the company legally showing it might charge more for it or stop allowing it to be shown because its not worth the cost. That then goes back to the original company that created the anime and gives them less revenue from overseas. It all hurts the original creators in the end regardless of where you are from. Copyright infringement is not theft and its complete bullshit to say pirates don't buy series they already watched. #1 I never said Piraters never buy anime. #2 Never talked about copyright Infringement. 1) Yeah you actually did: "Therefore the shows that eventually become legal to view later are not watched by the piraters that already watched it. " 2) You said the word stealing twice. "The problem with stealing foreign media is that it not so much hurts the country you steal it from, but more so the economy in every other country. " When you download something you are not stealing anything. lust4anime said: and then what really pisses me off is these so called *air quotes* anime fans You don't need to buy something in order to be a fan of something. so ur saying stealing a show to watch without actually buying it or buy nothing of the series even a keychain makes u a fan of the show?.....LMAO |
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Trebel said: I'll actually bet that the majority of people in here have considered that. It's one of the most common (and misguided) justifications for piracy, after all.Does nobody actually realize how much money goes to the original authors of the work and how much of the money actually goes to the manufacturers? DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: hahaThe japanese get to watch anime for free on T.V. Why cant i watch them for free just cause im in a foreign country lust4anime said: "fan: a person who has a strong interest in a particular something." I'm believe that's the definition of fan that most people use. Notice how it doesn't say anything about spending money on that particular something. so ur saying stealing a show to watch without actually buying it or buy nothing of the series even a keychain makes u a fan of the show?.....LMAO |
JoshSep 26, 2013 7:02 PM
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: The japanese get to watch anime for free on T.V. Why cant i watch them for free just cause im in a foreign country cuz the animes are made in japan and not in north america there are so many shows in north america that is not shown in japan and that japan doesnt like importation that much compare to north america and u can watch some on tv its called TOONAMI and online on sites like crunchyroll,hulu n even netflix |
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lust4anime said: so ur saying stealing a show to watch without actually buying it or buy nothing of the series even a keychain makes u a fan of the show?.....LMAO pirating* Do you know what a fan is? In order to be a fan of something you just have to enjoy it. No where in any definition does being a fan mean "you must purchase something in order to be a fan of something". Araby said: Trebel said: I'll actually bet that the majority of people in here have considered that. It's one of the most common (and misguided) justifications for piracy, after all.Does nobody actually realize how much money goes to the original authors of the work and how much of the money actually goes to the manufacturers? DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: hahaThe japanese get to watch anime for free on T.V. Why cant i watch them for free just cause im in a foreign country lust4anime said: "fan: a person who has a strong interest in a particular something." I'm believe that's the definition of fan that most people use. Notice how it doesn't say anything about spending money on that particular something. so ur saying stealing a show to watch without actually buying it or buy nothing of the series even a keychain makes u a fan of the show?.....LMAO That justification really only works for music piracy anyway. |
| I hate it when people say it harms the industry... Does he even know how much BD/DVDs cost in Japan? And how many people actually buy them despite the ridiculous prices for what they're getting? For example, they'd get a 22 episode series, at two episodes a disc... for ~3,000 yen (roughly $30). That's over $300 a person. Multiply that by... let's say 25,000 people if said anime is successful and they all buy every single volume. That's a buttload of money for a single show, not including merchandise sales. If it's extremely successful (such as Madoka/Bakemono) a LOT more is factored in. Anyone who says it's dying is full of it. In Japan alone, that's an extremely large amount of money. And it's not like they don't make money off of things that have been out for a while. Foreign sales are just a bonus. "Just wait it out until it gets cheaper online": If you buy used copies on Amazon, or any other site, you technically aren't paying for it either, even if it's the official BD/DVD in all its glory. You're paying the seller for their copy, so essentially that person is the one who supported the industry assuming they purchased it when it was released, not you, even if you bought the official release. While it is the series, official and legal, you are watching that content illegally... because you didn't actually pay the creators/all the other companies to watch that anime; you paid a third party for their copy. ... It's not illegal at all, because it was already purchased once and the owner can do whatever the hell they want with their discs, but a lot of people (industry huggers) think if you didn't pay for it, it's illegal. But I'd rather my money go to things I need, like food and rent. Drunk_Samurai said: pirating* Do you know what a fan is? In order to be a fan of something you just have to enjoy it. No where in any definition does being a fan mean "you must purchase something in order to be a fan of something". Nah man, you gotta buy it all.. otherwise you ain't a true anime fan. |
NabrisSep 26, 2013 8:44 PM
Nabris said: Nah man, you gotta buy it all.. otherwise you ain't a true anime fan. Damn, guess I'm not a true anime fan then :/ Does purchasing shirts, plushies, and cosplay count as brownie points to being an anime fan...? |
Drunk_Samurai said: Tomoki_Sakurai said: Drunk_Samurai said: Tomoki_Sakurai said: Drunk_Samurai said: Tomoki_Sakurai said: User-namae said: The way I see things is that, if I lived in Japan, I could watch the anime on TV for free (well, for however much I'm paying the TV company, but you get what I'm saying.). I could watch it once, and then decide whether to buy the DVDs. However, in America anime of course does not run on TV and I refuse to pay for episodes of a show I might not even like. So the way I see it is that watching stuff online for free is the equivalent to watching it on TV for the first time, and if I ever want to rewatch a series that isn't on Crunchyroll, I'll pay for the DVDs if they're in America. However your viewing of it illegally gives the creators no revenue as it does on T.V. The problem with stealing foreign media is that it not so much hurts the country you steal it from, but more so the economy in every other country. Therefore the shows that eventually become legal to view later are not watched by the piraters that already watched it. That means the company legally showing it might charge more for it or stop allowing it to be shown because its not worth the cost. That then goes back to the original company that created the anime and gives them less revenue from overseas. It all hurts the original creators in the end regardless of where you are from. Copyright infringement is not theft and its complete bullshit to say pirates don't buy series they already watched. #1 I never said Piraters never buy anime. #2 Never talked about copyright Infringement. 1) Yeah you actually did: "Therefore the shows that eventually become legal to view later are not watched by the piraters that already watched it. " 2) You said the word stealing twice. "The problem with stealing foreign media is that it not so much hurts the country you steal it from, but more so the economy in every other country. " When you download something you are not stealing anything. lust4anime said: and then what really pisses me off is these so called *air quotes* anime fans You don't need to buy something in order to be a fan of something. 1.When I say "Therefore the shows that eventually become legal to view later are not watched by the piraters that already watched it. " I am talking about digitally on sites that legally own it. 2. If you think stealing is void simply because it is online then you obviously have a warped thought process. It actually is since copyright infringement is not theft. Both legally and dictionary definition wise. In order for something to be stealing something has to actually be taken. Copyright infringement makes a COPY of something while the original is still there. Oh so as long as the one copy was payed for its not stealing? What if someone stole the copy everyone is watching? By your definition everyone would then be stealing. I have no idea what version of copyright you are thinking of but it seems to be vastly different the version I have always heard and seen. |
Trebel said: Nabris said: Nah man, you gotta buy it all.. otherwise you ain't a true anime fan. Damn, guess I'm not a true anime fan then :/ Does purchasing shirts, plushies, and cosplay count as brownie points to being an anime fan...? Well a fan is just someone who likes something, but I think it would be beneficial as a fan to support what you like by purchasing the show. Granted the other stuff is right beside that to me. |
| I actually pay the 6 dollars a month for crunchyroll premium account just to watch AoT. Let me say this. 1) Their service sucks. I put in a ticket for an issue i was having with streaming, they got back to me same say asking some questions, i answered their questions and then never hear back, i put in another ticket and they just ignore my issues now. 2) Ordered some items from them, they charge my bank account, then email me a few days latter saying that the orders cannot be completed. Takes them a week to get my money back. 3) I've watched a total of FOUR shows on crunchyroll, Bleach, Another, Fate Zero, and Attack on Titan. Every other anime (especially older ones) they don't have the rights to host that show, or seeing that it is a older anime (mid 2000s) they don't bother to host them. I have paid for animes ive really enjoyed like Code Geass, but most i just torrent because I'm not willing to pay 20-50 dollars for a series just for me not to enjoy it, so ill just stream or torrent it. Overall, if they make a reasonable site with good quality of streams, a big selection of anime and a reasonable monthly charge then ill pay it, but as of now no one offers that so this guy clearly either has too much money to purchase every anime known to man, or doesn't know what he is talking about. Also another side note about crunchyroll, I've been told it restricts A LOT of users in different regions. Dumb. |
IoloSep 27, 2013 6:52 AM
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Araby said: I don't buy anime any less than before when I only knew of the legal methods and I have a Crunchyroll membership. The only reason I pirate is to watch more anime. Am I an asshole? If so then I'd still gladly accept the tagThe whole "is or isn't piracy stealing," debate is really tiresome. I wish more pirates would just admit that they are assholes, instead of hiding behind half-baked justifications. I pirate, because I'm an asshole. There, that wasn't so hard, was it? The first step is acceptance. |
SeibaaHomuSep 27, 2013 7:00 AM
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SaberKino said: Yep, you are. I'm glad that you're willing to accept the tag. Let all of us pirates embrace asshole-ness together, because it's not such a big deal.I don't buy anime any less than before when I only knew of the legal methods and I have a Crunchyroll membership. The only reason I pirate is to watch more anime. Am I an asshole? If so then I'd still gladly accept the tag |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
Araby said: SaberKino said: Yep, you are. I'm glad that you're willing to accept the tag. Let all of us pirates embrace asshole-ness together, because it's not such a big deal.I don't buy anime any less than before when I only knew of the legal methods and I have a Crunchyroll membership. The only reason I pirate is to watch more anime. Am I an asshole? If so then I'd still gladly accept the tag "Asshole", an orifice of the body at the end of our intestine. It's used to get rid of bodily waste. You are one of those? Great! Yes, I do pirate, but that doesn't mean I'm an asshole. I'm just someone who, often, doesn't pay for anime. I do buy the series I liked. Simple as that. |
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| I recently realised I'm a big hypocrite about piracy. Just not too long ago, a friend of mine pirated GTA V and was playing it before it came out. I was pretty mad, mostly because he was playing it before me and I was gonna pay full price for it. Yet, I had never even considered buying Blu-Rays or even pay a subscription to watch anime. I then decided to at least buy something, just to make myself feel a bit better about being a "pirate". After looking at the BD's prices, I thought "never mind" and went back to download episodes from nyaa lol. Still, in the end I'm making a Crunchyroll membership ( 5 quids a month is very reasonable), but I will still use those other options because downloads are very handy sometimes. Does that change the fact that I'll still be a pirate? No. Do i care about it? Not really, or at least not enough for me to stop abusing illegal websites. |
| 5 main aspects I base my ratings on: 1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it? 2. Is it better than Breaking Bad? 3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it? 4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL? 5. Is it actually good? Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant... |
geralt said: I recently realised I'm a big hypocrite about piracy. Just not too long ago, a friend of mine pirated GTA V and was playing it before it came out. I was pretty mad, mostly because he was playing it before me and I was gonna pay full price for it. Yet, I had never even considered buying Blu-Rays or even pay a subscription to watch anime. I then decided to at least buy something, just to make myself feel a bit better about being a "pirate". After looking at the BD's prices, I thought "never mind" and went back to download episodes from nyaa lol. Still, in the end I'm making a Crunchyroll membership ( 5 quids a month is very reasonable), but I will still use those other options because downloads are very handy sometimes. Does that change the fact that I'll still be a pirate? No. Do i care about it? Not really, or at least not enough for me to stop abusing illegal websites. Iwouldnt say youre an hypocrite, you judt like/care more about videogames. I buy my games too but I dont buy anime. Also videogames are way cheaper and at the same time provide more hours of fun. |
geralt said: He probably just takes games more seriously than anime. Not saying that games are inherently better, but I can't disagree with him either. It's just kinda weird that anime has a whole community to back free downloads (typically with fan translations, regardless of the "licensed" status) while people generally look down on video game piracy when the average (non-Aniplex) newly-released licensed anime box costs around as much as a newly-released video game. Incidentally, I do buy all my games, but I only stream anime. But then again, my game library is so freaking small, and most of my recent hours went into a completely legal free-to-play game, PlanetSide 2.I recently realised I'm a big hypocrite about piracy. Just not too long ago, a friend of mine pirated GTA V and was playing it before it came out. I was pretty mad, mostly because he was playing it before me and I was gonna pay full price for it. Yet, I had never even considered buying Blu-Rays or even pay a subscription to watch anime. I then decided to at least buy something, just to make myself feel a bit better about being a "pirate". After looking at the BD's prices, I thought "never mind" and went back to download episodes from nyaa lol. Still, in the end I'm making a Crunchyroll membership ( 5 quids a month is very reasonable), but I will still use those other options because downloads are very handy sometimes. Does that change the fact that I'll still be a pirate? No. Do i care about it? Not really, or at least not enough for me to stop abusing illegal websites. |
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baki502 said: geralt said: I recently realised I'm a big hypocrite about piracy. Just not too long ago, a friend of mine pirated GTA V and was playing it before it came out. I was pretty mad, mostly because he was playing it before me and I was gonna pay full price for it. Yet, I had never even considered buying Blu-Rays or even pay a subscription to watch anime. I then decided to at least buy something, just to make myself feel a bit better about being a "pirate". After looking at the BD's prices, I thought "never mind" and went back to download episodes from nyaa lol. Still, in the end I'm making a Crunchyroll membership ( 5 quids a month is very reasonable), but I will still use those other options because downloads are very handy sometimes. Does that change the fact that I'll still be a pirate? No. Do i care about it? Not really, or at least not enough for me to stop abusing illegal websites. Iwouldnt say youre an hypocrite, you judt like/care more about videogames. I buy my games too but I dont buy anime. Also videogames are way cheaper and at the same time provide more hours of fun. That would be relative to the game you bought ,how much you enjoy that very game, and your region. Besides anyone with half a brain knows anime has a way smaller fanbase than video games. Anime would be cheaper if everyone was buying it, video games are also more difficult to torrent and install and can have many user issues unlike illegally downloading or streaming a show. |
Tomoki_Sakurai said: Yeah, freaking DRM. It can screw even people who legally purchase the product.baki502 said: geralt said: I recently realised I'm a big hypocrite about piracy. Just not too long ago, a friend of mine pirated GTA V and was playing it before it came out. I was pretty mad, mostly because he was playing it before me and I was gonna pay full price for it. Yet, I had never even considered buying Blu-Rays or even pay a subscription to watch anime. I then decided to at least buy something, just to make myself feel a bit better about being a "pirate". After looking at the BD's prices, I thought "never mind" and went back to download episodes from nyaa lol. Still, in the end I'm making a Crunchyroll membership ( 5 quids a month is very reasonable), but I will still use those other options because downloads are very handy sometimes. Does that change the fact that I'll still be a pirate? No. Do i care about it? Not really, or at least not enough for me to stop abusing illegal websites. Iwouldnt say youre an hypocrite, you judt like/care more about videogames. I buy my games too but I dont buy anime. Also videogames are way cheaper and at the same time provide more hours of fun. That would be relative to the game you bought ,how much you enjoy that very game, and your region. Besides anyone with half a brain knows anime has a way smaller fanbase than video games. Anime would be cheaper if everyone was buying it, video games are also more difficult to torrent and install and can have many user issues unlike illegally downloading or streaming a show. |
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geralt said: I recently realised I'm a big hypocrite about piracy. Just not too long ago, a friend of mine pirated GTA V and was playing it before it came out. I was pretty mad, mostly because he was playing it before me and I was gonna pay full price for it. Yet, I had never even considered buying Blu-Rays or even pay a subscription to watch anime. I then decided to at least buy something, just to make myself feel a bit better about being a "pirate". After looking at the BD's prices, I thought "never mind" and went back to download episodes from nyaa lol. Still, in the end I'm making a Crunchyroll membership ( 5 quids a month is very reasonable), but I will still use those other options because downloads are very handy sometimes. Does that change the fact that I'll still be a pirate? No. Do i care about it? Not really, or at least not enough for me to stop abusing illegal websites. Nothing wrong with being an opportunist. |
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| This begs the questions, would you download a car? (゜Д゜) |
Darude said: This begs the questions, would you download a car? (゜Д゜) Oh god not that commercial again...I also remember when they were like "You wouldn't steal a car like music would you?" and I kept thinking of all those people that have in fact done that very thing. |
| Pirating is kind of revenge. We're bad but they're worse. |
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Tomoki_Sakurai said: Oh so as long as the one copy was payed for its not stealing? What if someone stole the copy everyone is watching? By your definition everyone would then be stealing. I have no idea what version of copyright you are thinking of but it seems to be vastly different the version I have always heard and seen. Actually would only be theft with the original person who stole the physical copy. Everybody else who downloads that would just be committing copyright infringement. Then you have always been seeing and hearing the wrong version. gamer2710 said: He probably just takes games more seriously than anime. Not saying that games are inherently better, but I can't disagree with him either. It's just kinda weird that anime has a whole community to back free downloads (typically with fan translations, regardless of the "licensed" status) while people generally look down on video game piracy when the average (non-Aniplex) newly-released licensed anime box costs around as much as a newly-released video game. Incidentally, I do buy all my games, but I only stream anime. But then again, my game library is so freaking small, and most of my recent hours went into a completely legal free-to-play game, PlanetSide 2. I would pirate PS3 games and whatnot if I could play them on my computer. It would be hypocritical of somebody to pirate one thing but be against piracy of something else. |
saabir2007 said: I download fansubbed anime all the time. The producers actually encourage us to download/stream fansubbed anime online. The reason: simple, its free, and if they allow this, they get x10000 more views on their videos so they get more money from their sponsors. ^^ this goes for MOST animes (not all, like bleach or one piece) if you think piracy or fansubs actually give the creators money you are retarded |
| Just because you know how to use a torrent does not give you the god given right to pirate. My actual list: https://kitsu.io/users/mattbenz99/library check out my youtube channel for my review: https://www.youtube.com/user/mattbenz99 |
mitch3315 said: Tell him to get back to me when: 1. Crunchyroll stream all airing series 2. When Crunchyroll stop region locking content |
| Time is money, but money won't turn back the clock. |
| lmfao lemme tell you that if illegal streaming and downloading is completely removed, I wouldn't be watching anime. The point is null it will not help the industry if they remove illegal stream/download for crunchy roll that takes a fuck ton of time for subbed anime to be released. I don't mind the advertisements one bit but the being subbed part is what ticks me |
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Krunchy said: Pirating is kind of revenge. We're bad but they're worse. |
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Tomoki_Sakurai said: Darude said: This begs the questions, would you download a car? (゜Д゜) Oh god not that commercial again...I also remember when they were like "You wouldn't steal a car like music would you?" and I kept thinking of all those people that have in fact done that very thing. The fact that it's set to auto play these anti theft commercials on dvds that you've actually purchased is the worst part. And they cannot be skipped. It's like you're being punished for actually buying the fucking thing. It makes 0 sense, and turns EVERYONE off buying the real media when you can download the version where someone has cut that bit out. |
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| I always buy box sets of things I want to support, I'd prefer they didn't disappear due to only being watched via piracy. Even though I don't personally make any difference, I know many people also feel the same way. Then again I can afford to do that, and I enjoy having a collection on the shelf, I don't mind if other people don't care or can't do the same. |
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JustLurking said: I always buy box sets of things I want to support, I'd prefer they didn't disappear due to only being watched via piracy. Even though I don't personally make any difference, I know many people also feel the same way. Then again I can afford to do that, and I enjoy having a collection on the shelf, I don't mind if other people don't care or can't do the same. LOL. Anime is never going to disappear. Especially not because of piracy. |
| Companies shut down all the time. I never said anime was going to disappear. |
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| I would gladly stop downloading/illegal streaming Anime if there was legal paid streaming site that has a library of all Anime. |
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JustLurking said: Companies shut down all the time. I never said anime was going to disappear. Yet piracy has nothing to do with that, |
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