| http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2008/nov/07/spielberg-smith-oldboy-remake horrible storm oncoming i fucking loved this film and adapting this with will smith and speilberg is just asking to kill it they arent gonna go from the film but the manga which misses :( |
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| It's not that bad. We can always take one of his movies, like Schindler's list, starring fat asian kid. |
| It's more that rewriting it to be more family friendly would kill it. Edit: Actually, a family friendly version would possibly be extremely funny. In a bad way. |
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| Will Smith? o,ok Spielberg? FUCK and lol, of course they'd remove the AMERICA = PUSSIES Man, (in before flames) I actually think Will Smith would do a badass job. Shame Spielberg has to ruin it. |
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Neverender said: Will Smith? o,ok Spielberg? FUCK and lol, of course they'd remove the AMERICA = PUSSIES Honestly, I don't see the point of that movie at all without that. It'd basically make it a pointless, retarded, violence oriented (but somehow worse than the original, cause the original violence was badass) flick that... wait Hollywood, nevermind. |
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| Old news for Old Boy. America = Pussies Japan = Pussies Korea = Who the hell do you think I am!? |
| oh no D: yet another good asian film gets raped in the ass by american producers. |
| So you could strikethrough that very wrong sentence. Spielberg is going to do an adaptation of the manga. It was the koreans who raped the japanese by doing a better work than the original. |
| How does one make a film like Oldboy "family friendly"? That's like, completely antithetical to everything in the movie. Hey, why don't we make hardcore porn "family friendly" while we're at it, too? |
| http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-11-21/spielberg-smith-reportedly-adapting-old-boy-manga-itself Maybe now you'll all stop talking jibberish... Actor Will Smith says team is bypassing Korean film to adapt original manga |
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Neverender said: Will Smith? o,ok Spielberg? FUCK I thought the complete reverse of that. Spielberg made Schindler's List, Jaws and Munich, so he is more than capable of making great films. Will Smith is merely competent as an actor though. In no way am i saying it will be as good as the original though. I loved that film, i even got my avatar from it. |
| Lolwut? Pretty pointless. And what's the point if there's no incest? That was pretty much the whole shocker of the movie, what's left without it? Some guy locked up in a room that's what. Can't squick anyone with that. |
Baman said: And what's the point? Money. |
| Spielberg is great but a remake would only ruin Oldboy. |
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| what are you guys talking about? nowhere in the article does it say they're gonna make it more "family-friendly". And contrary to what the article says, neither Spielberg nor Smith are particularly averse to family unfriendly films. Spielberg had Schindler's List, and most recently Smith has Seven Pounds. A bit jumpy now are we? |
kei-clone said: what are you guys talking about? nowhere in the article does it say they're gonna make it more "family-friendly". And contrary to what the article says, neither Spielberg nor Smith are particularly averse to family unfriendly films. Spielberg had Schindler's List, and most recently Smith has Seven Pounds. A bit jumpy now are we? "A direct remake would seem to be particularly dark territory for both Spielberg and Smith, as the original contains a number of family-unfriendly themes and sequences" It's a different type of family unfriendly than Schindler's List anyways kei. Says he's apparently looking for a writter, but if they do make it more family-friendly (which would be more likely than not) than it would suck pretty badly. |
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Baman said: And what's the point if there's no incest? That was pretty much the whole shocker of the movie, what's left without it? Some guy locked up in a room that's what. Can't squick anyone with that. I truly hope you were just kidding. You can make a great movie out of any concept, plot twists or no, it's all in the execution. And keep in mind they are adapting the manga, which i hear is pretty different from the film. |
| I wonder how that'll turn out. I recently watched the movie and I thought it was great. ^_^ M_A said: And keep in mind they are adapting the manga, which i hear is pretty different from the film. It is? I might have to pick it up. |
| Why make a remake of a movie that came out in 2003? I mean come on, it's not even a decade old yet. |
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| Why even bother with remakes at all? The original is good enough, it doesn't need to be butchered by Hollywood. |
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Sick-Bastard said: Why make a remake of a movie that came out in 2003? I mean come on, it's not even a decade old yet. Old Boy is awesome. That is why. Also: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407887/ Because it will make money. sniW said: Just Oldboy? What about the rest of the vengeance trilogy? If I remember correctly, Oldboy is the second one chronologically. Old Boy, Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance, and Lady Vengeance aren't related minus the director and the fact that they all involve vengeance. |
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Scud said: Why even bother with remakes at all? The original is good enough, it doesn't need to be butchered by Hollywood. :( I also personally tend to dislike /most/ Spielberg films. |
selective_yellow said: Scud said: Why even bother with remakes at all? The original is good enough, it doesn't need to be butchered by Hollywood. :( I also personally tend to dislike /most/ Spielberg films. Spielberg fucking chugs cum. I hate him. |
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Sick-Bastard said: selective_yellow said: Scud said: Why even bother with remakes at all? The original is good enough, it doesn't need to be butchered by Hollywood. :( I also personally tend to dislike /most/ Spielberg films. Spielberg fucking chugs cum. I hate him. Uhh........ Scud said: Why even bother with remakes at all? The original is good enough, it doesn't need to be butchered by Hollywood. The remake of the Infernal Affairs trilogy, The Deported, was actually pretty good IMO. It didn't compare at all to the original, IMO, but it still was quite nice. The main issue is that we rarely watch foreign films - especially asian ones. The few that do make it, untouched minus subs(or dubs), are your steretoypical kung-fu movies(see crouching tiger hidden dragon). The others, have to be remade for most people to really 'experience' it. Of course, in the process, many of changes are made, and the film makers usually just end up using the original film as basic material to adapt to a different setting/culture or inspiration for something different. It's not necessarily bad, as it <might> help promote a greater culture of working and "stealing" the works of others to create something new. Or much more likely, I'm just hopelessly dreaming and making nonexistant connections - especially considering this is completely different from license-free artistic expression. /sigh |
tr1ggers4dJan 19, 2009 5:15 PM
tr1ggers4d said: Scud said: Why even bother with remakes at all? The original is good enough, it doesn't need to be butchered by Hollywood. The remake of the Infernal Affairs trilogy, The Deported, I JUST HAD A BRILLIANT IDEA |
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Neverender said: tr1ggers4d said: Scud said: Why even bother with remakes at all? The original is good enough, it doesn't need to be butchered by Hollywood. The remake of the Infernal Affairs trilogy, The Deported, I JUST HAD A BRILLIANT IDEA oh fuck. sounds badass. |
Neverender said: tr1ggers4d said: Scud said: Why even bother with remakes at all? The original is good enough, it doesn't need to be butchered by Hollywood. The remake of the Infernal Affairs trilogy, The Deported, I JUST HAD A BRILLIANT IDEA ALL YOUR IDEAS ARE BRILLIANT. |
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kei-clone said: what are you guys talking about? nowhere in the article does it say they're gonna make it more "family-friendly". And contrary to what the article says, neither Spielberg nor Smith are particularly averse to family unfriendly films. Spielberg had Schindler's List, and most recently Smith has Seven Pounds. A bit jumpy now are we? I love Oldboy but I think overall I prefer Sympathy for Mr Vengeance which I saw when it first came out and punched me in the balls very hard. Park Chan-wook is a genius director. Lady Vengeance gets too much flak, its decent in its own right but definitely takes 3rd position compard to the other films. |
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| I'll probably go see it either way because I like Old Boy, and Will Smith is hot as hell. |
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sniW said: Just Oldboy? What about the rest of the vengeance trilogy? If I remember correctly, Oldboy is the second one chronologically. Because they're not fucking touching the korean movie, but the manga. But now that you mentioned, I'm even more glad they're adapting the manga only. Now I don't have to worry if they're going to have the brilliant idea of butchering adapting Mr. and Lady Vengeance. |
| i always wonder who are the producers that some how work out the deal for remakes. recently its not only asian films but anime/manga live action adaptations for hollywood (dragonball "evolution", speed racer, cowboy bebop...). I can understand the concept of remaking a film to suit the audience because of language/cultural differences, but it bugs me how they would think that an asian or pacific islander american can't be lead role for a movie... maybe there remains some crazy conspiracy for hollywood us to keep believing that all asians and pac islander americans = asian/pac island foreigners that know martial arts, work at a chinese restaurant, or some other "Asiany" thing. i wish im proven wrong T__T hollywood believes their audience is stupid? sadly some truth to that =( and any other remakes that are actually decent? I heard that the departed was good, tho i havent seen it yet tho ive seen all the infernal affairs films. |
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Cihan said: kei-clone said: what are you guys talking about? nowhere in the article does it say they're gonna make it more "family-friendly". And contrary to what the article says, neither Spielberg nor Smith are particularly averse to family unfriendly films. Spielberg had Schindler's List, and most recently Smith has Seven Pounds. A bit jumpy now are we? yea, he won't be. and that's because they're adapting it from the original manga. but I wasn't even talking about that. |
kei-clone said: yea, he won't be. and that's because they're adapting it from the original manga. but I wasn't even talking about that. Yeah, I keep forgetting their lousy getaround the movie, so you can ignore my post. |
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| But why Will Smith? The appeal of the character in the original was that he wasnt some hot looking badass. He looked pretty ordinary and rugged. Someone like Benicio del Toro would be much better: http://starophileimages2.free.fr/wallpapers/benicio_del_toro_004.jpg |
M_A said: Because he brings in big money, you slap his name on a movie and it makes a shit load more than it would without.But why Will Smith? |
Defiance said: M_A said: Because he brings in big money, you slap his name on a movie and it makes a shit load more than it would without.But why Will Smith? Well, yeah. But i don't really expect Spielberg to care about stuff like that at this point of his career. He has made non-mega blockbuster movies before. (Munich, for one). I suppose, like mentioned in the article, Smith and Spielberg have been looking to do a movie together and just decided to do Oldboy. Meh. The fact is, Spielberg can do drama, and he knows what to do with a camera, so i don't expect the film to be bad, i'm sure it will even seem good to people who have never seen the korean version. Though if it ends up being pg-13, i won't even bother checking it out. |
M_A said: Though if it ends up being pg-13, i won't even bother checking it out. Why? The first one probably could have passed for pg-13 in today's standards. |
Sick-Bastard said: Why make a remake of a movie that came out in 2003? I mean come on, it's not even a decade old yet. Because that's the way the movie industry seems to work nowadays, unfortunately. I remember watching the horror movie Quarantine about a month or so back, which happened to be a remake of a movie that wasn't even a year old. I was surprised at how disgusted I was after hearing that. But then again the remake syndrome works both ways, so go figure. As for this news, it's old to me, but still depressing every time I see it. Will Smith is about the last person I'd want to see in an Oldboy remake. |
Sick-Bastard said: Why make a remake of a movie that came out in 2003? I mean come on, it's not even a decade old yet. Last year a Swedish horror movie got a lot of hype and praise, its called Let The Right One In. It hasnt even been released in the USA, but a remake has already been greenlit for pre-production, by the director of Cloverfield. So yep, we are now already in that era where remakes occur as soon as foreign films are released in their own countries. Its basically a form of racial hegemony, preventing foreign films from exposure and success. People that say 'remakes arent bad, you've still got the original' dont understand the entire scope of how a remake affects the original. It can render the original little-seen due to the remake being successful or not, either way a lot of people will bypass the original, and may not even be aware of it in the first place. There's just no justifiable reason to not distribute foreign films in cinemas. Other countries do it (yay UK), America can do it but refuses to except on certain instances. Crouching Tiger is looking more and more like a big fluke, although even that had a western writer and financer behind it, so it almost doesnt even count. |
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| This sounds like it's going to be on par "I, Robot". Do not expect anything good from this movie. Same thing with the live action Akira. |
arimakenshin said: This sounds like it's going to be on par "I, Robot". As does the recent announcement that Roland Fucking Emmerich will be directing Asimov's Foundation series. *sigh* |
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Cihan said: There's just no justifiable reason to not distribute foreign films in cinemas. Other countries do it (yay UK), America can do it but refuses to except on certain instances. Crouching Tiger is looking more and more like a big fluke, although even that had a western writer and financer behind it, so it almost doesnt even count. there is, and you can blame the majority of Americans who are xenophobic and/or illiterate and dislike reading subtitles. ppl have been brought up on hollywood here. |
kei-clone said: Cihan said: There's just no justifiable reason to not distribute foreign films in cinemas. Other countries do it (yay UK), America can do it but refuses to except on certain instances. Crouching Tiger is looking more and more like a big fluke, although even that had a western writer and financer behind it, so it almost doesnt even count. there is, and you can blame the majority of Americans who are xenophobic and/or illiterate and dislike reading subtitles. ppl have been brought up on hollywood here. That's the primary reason, I think, but other reasons also lie in sheer cultural and backgrounds differences. To experience what an asian viewer experiences in contrast to what an american viewer does has the chance of being completely different in that much of the movie is based on that culture.Even if translated, it's rather challenging to convey the cultural meanings and significance behind certain actions/words in the movie, or the such. The audience changes drastically, and it's rather hard to expect the American audience to have the experience the asian filmmakers intended for its asian audience. |
tr1ggers4d said: That's the primary reason, I think, but other reasons also lie in sheer cultural and backgrounds differences. To experience what an asian viewer experiences in contrast to what an american viewer does has the chance of being completely different in that much of the movie is based on that culture.Even if translated, it's rather challenging to convey the cultural meanings and significance behind certain actions/words in the movie, or the such. The audience changes drastically, and it's rather hard to expect the American audience to have the experience the asian filmmakers intended for its asian audience. But its that kind of attitude that is responsible for the shitty situation. The idea that Asians are so different we need a glossary to understand or emphasize with them. Its simply not true. Millions of Asian films have been released in the UK, for example, and nobody complains about 'not getting it'. All we want is a straight-up translation. Any cultural quirks lost through translation can be discovered later by the viewer if they want, but simply saying "the cultures are too different" is not a justification for remaking everything in sight or not distributing foreign films. Basically, we force English-language entertainment on the world and dont bother to explain ourselves, so we should get the same treatment in return. We are not superior, and yet that is the overall message the west projects through its actions. |
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Cihan said: Sick-Bastard said: Why make a remake of a movie that came out in 2003? I mean come on, it's not even a decade old yet. Last year a Swedish horror movie got a lot of hype and praise, its called Let The Right One In. It hasnt even been released in the USA, but a remake has already been greenlit for pre-production, by the director of Cloverfield. So yep, we are now already in that era where remakes occur as soon as foreign films are released in their own countries. Its basically a form of racial hegemony, preventing foreign films from exposure and success. People that say 'remakes arent bad, you've still got the original' dont understand the entire scope of how a remake affects the original. It can render the original little-seen due to the remake being successful or not, either way a lot of people will bypass the original, and may not even be aware of it in the first place. There's just no justifiable reason to not distribute foreign films in cinemas. Other countries do it (yay UK), America can do it but refuses to except on certain instances. Crouching Tiger is looking more and more like a big fluke, although even that had a western writer and financer behind it, so it almost doesnt even count. Oh, god, the remake of Let the Right One In pisses me off much more than oldboy. It might have been the best vampire film ever, film making wise. A shitty US sequel will depress me to no end. I agree with your other posts too, i find the whole idea that films have to adapt to american tastes and mindset to be idiotic. |
Cihan said: arimakenshin said: This sounds like it's going to be on par "I, Robot". As does the recent announcement that Roland Fucking Emmerich will be directing Asimov's Foundation series. *sigh* Hollywood is really trying its best to make Isaac Asimov turn in his grave... T_T |
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