Are SnK fanboys are just the next generation of SAO fanboys?
Yes.
44.6%
62
No.
55.4%
77
139 votes
yakoo said: wukp said: yakoo said: Hold your horse guys..... Thread just getting out of topic Now I believe that topic is going just in the way that the OP wanted it when he opened it. if you believe it, and u take part in it,it makes you looks like idiot Maybe but i just can't stay quiet while haters are hating SAO or Mirai Nikki. |
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wukp said: yakoo said: wukp said: yakoo said: Hold your horse guys..... Thread just getting out of topic Now I believe that topic is going just in the way that the OP wanted it when he opened it. if you believe it, and u take part in it,it makes you looks like idiot Maybe but i just can't stay quiet while haters are hating SAO or Mirai Nikki. don't realy care about specific shows... but these topics realy get on my nerves -_- just a bunch of trollbaiting/feeding nothing more nothing less (oh and boosting the OP's ego "look at meeee i'm trolling SAO AAAAAND SNK fans i'm so awsome) this isn't even a discusion for crying out loud! oh boohoo i hate an anime and people who like it should crawl down a hole and die because my taste in anime is godlike |
| SnK deserved the hype if you ask me, it's quite a good show. |
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| wukp, first you put them as the "two best anime ever". And now they fell into the top50. But if your point is about popularity or something like this. Can we take a look on their blu-ray selling ? Cause at this game, SAO lost to Girls und Panzer that season. But about SAO, it might be one of the most popular Light Novel. That is ok. But popularity =/= quality. SAO targets a large scale of people. Some series are better, but less known cause their targets aren't as large. SNK was already a best seller as a manga. It's somewhat expected to get that much attention as an anime. Just imagine that a manga as popular as Naruto ( I won't talk about its quality here ), only got its anime now. Of course everyone's gonna talk about it. |
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| Stop using the word ''hater'' please.. |
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| Hmm I wouldn't agree. I've only watched one episode of Sword Art Online and am in no position to criticise it. However, it didn't capture my interest at all compared to the first time I watched Shingeki no Kyojin. They are both very different - so it wouldn't be right to say that just because SnK and SAO have the same 'hype' they would have the same audience. |
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Arlia said: wukp, first you put them as the "two best anime ever". And now they fell into the top50. inb4 fanboys Tarextherex said: I mean, light novels ARE for kids who don't have the attention span of reading regular novels not really, then how about Kino no Tabi is it for kids too? |
yakoo said: Tarextherex said: I mean, light novels ARE for kids who don't have the attention span of reading regular novels not really, then how about Kino no Tabi is it for kids too? This. What's up with this misconception ? It's the same as saying that manga is only for kids. |
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Arlia said: wukp, first you put them as the "two best anime ever". And now they fell into the top50. But if your point is about popularity or something like this. Can we take a look on their blu-ray selling ? Cause at this game, SAO lost to Girls und Panzer that season. But about SAO, it might be one of the most popular Light Novel. That is ok. But popularity =/= quality. SAO targets a large scale of people. Some series are better, but less known cause their targets aren't as large. SNK was already a best seller as a manga. It's somewhat expected to get that much attention as an anime. Just imagine that a manga as popular as Naruto ( I won't talk about its quality here ), only got its anime now. Of course everyone's gonna talk about it. They are the two best and their popularity is in top 50.Naruto and similar anime are different story it is normal that they get bigger popularity because they air for more than 10 years without pause. |
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| @Tarextherex : Because a lot of anime are based on teens light novels, Light novels are for teen ? I mean, something like NHK was a Light novel to begin with, and there are others like this. It's just like it's your typically shonen manga that will be adapted into anime. @wukp : What about something like Evangelion ? It didn't air for ten years, but it crushes just everything. |
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Tarextherex said: Also it's not really for kids, basically teens/pre-teens who don't read Its not. Have you ever acteally read Kino no tabi or Strike witches : Suomus misfits? Its obvious neither of those 2 are ment for young teens. Light novels have nothing to do with the demographic it is aimed it. All it means is that its easier to read(when commuting to school/work or something along those lines). |
Arlia said: @Tarextherex : Because a lot of anime are based on teens light novels, Light novels are for teen ? I mean, something like NHK was a Light novel to begin with, and there are others like this. It's just like it's your typically shonen manga that will be adapted into anime. @wukp : What about something like Evangelion ? It didn't air for ten years, but it crushes just everything. Evangelion crushes everything else? Now you are making me laugh. |
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Tarextherex said: yakoo said: Tarextherex said: I mean, light novels ARE for kids who don't have the attention span of reading regular novels not really, then how about Kino no Tabi is it for kids too? Also it's not really for kids, basically teens/pre-teens who don't read nice ,changing your statement |
| If you're putting SAO and Eva on the same level, it's indeed something to laugh about. And I didn't really like Evangelion. Their importance can't be compared. |
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| Why do people feel the compulsion to compare SnK to SAO? I answered no to the poll, the difference being that SnK is actually good. Maybe not as good as the site's rating says it is, but good. With SAO there were two bandwagons, one that loved it and one that hated it. With this show there are still people who hate it, but in much smaller numbers. The worst thing I often hear is that it's "average". Only very rarely have I heard anyone who really, really hates it and thinks it's garbage. |
wukp said: Arlia said: @Tarextherex : Because a lot of anime are based on teens light novels, Light novels are for teen ? I mean, something like NHK was a Light novel to begin with, and there are others like this. It's just like it's your typically shonen manga that will be adapted into anime. @wukp : What about something like Evangelion ? It didn't air for ten years, but it crushes just everything. Evangelion crushes everything else? Now you are making me laugh. So, when your logic of "popular shows are better shows" is used against you, you disagree with it? |
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| The problem is that SAO and SnK are 2 fundamentally different shows. The only thing they have in common are their popularity. But SAO is based on a wish fulfillment Light Novel, while SnK is based on a popular shounen fantasy Manga. Adaptation wise the shows don't compare either. While SAO was an utter fail as an adaptation focusing more on sidestories as on the actual plot, SnK actually has a plot that it follows. SnK also has more than 2 important characters (Actually SAO only had 1 important character Kirito, since asuna didn't really do anything throughout the show but being the damsel in distress.) So yeah i say NO. Fanboys are fanboys but the shows are different and i think SnK fans have a more genuine case to be excited about their show. |
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| SO what if i told you some(not all of them) Snk fans is also SAO Fanboys,so some people want to compare this 2 damn shows |
Arlia said: If you're putting SAO and Eva on the same level, it's indeed something to laugh about. And I didn't really like Evangelion. Their importance can't be compared. For once I agree with you putting SAO and Eva on the same level, it's indeed something to laugh about. But Evangelion is the one that can't even compare itself with not just SAO but with any great anime. Now that I saw your list and you shit taste everything is clear to me so there isn't point in discussing this any more I am going now to read some VN instead of losing my time here. |
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mitch3315 said: wukp said: Arlia said: @Tarextherex : Because a lot of anime are based on teens light novels, Light novels are for teen ? I mean, something like NHK was a Light novel to begin with, and there are others like this. It's just like it's your typically shonen manga that will be adapted into anime. @wukp : What about something like Evangelion ? It didn't air for ten years, but it crushes just everything. Evangelion crushes everything else? Now you are making me laugh. So, when your logic of "popular shows are better shows" is used against you, you disagree with it? Evangelion doesn't have that kind of popularity and nowhere near people who Love it/worship it. |
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| The big difference is that SnK is good, SAO is not. |
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yakoo said: I'm a fan of both Baccano! and Dennou Coil, but I don't feel the need to compare them. I might if they were at all similar, which I don't think SnK and SAO are.SO what if i told you some(not all of them) Snk fans is also SAO Fanboys,so some people want to compare this 2 damn shows wukp said: So, Death Note is better than SAO then, right?mitch3315 said: wukp said: Arlia said: @Tarextherex : Because a lot of anime are based on teens light novels, Light novels are for teen ? I mean, something like NHK was a Light novel to begin with, and there are others like this. It's just like it's your typically shonen manga that will be adapted into anime. @wukp : What about something like Evangelion ? It didn't air for ten years, but it crushes just everything. Evangelion crushes everything else? Now you are making me laugh. So, when your logic of "popular shows are better shows" is used against you, you disagree with it? Evangelion doesn't have that kind of popularity and nowhere near people who Love it/worship it. |
| I dont see what's so great about SnK. It's just another anime. I mean I have a favorite anime but you dont see me acting like a 15yo girl getting wet from seeing Justin Bieber. |
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wukp said: mitch3315 said: wukp said: Arlia said: @Tarextherex : Because a lot of anime are based on teens light novels, Light novels are for teen ? I mean, something like NHK was a Light novel to begin with, and there are others like this. It's just like it's your typically shonen manga that will be adapted into anime. @wukp : What about something like Evangelion ? It didn't air for ten years, but it crushes just everything. Evangelion crushes everything else? Now you are making me laugh. So, when your logic of "popular shows are better shows" is used against you, you disagree with it? Evangelion doesn't have that kind of popularity and nowhere near people who Love it/worship it. some people just never spend his time on internet Popka said: yakoo said: I'm a fan of both Baccano! and Dennou Coil, but I don't feel the need to compare them. I might if they were at all similar, which I don't think SnK and SAO are.SO what if i told you some(not all of them) Snk fans is also SAO Fanboys,so some people want to compare this 2 damn shows the one who compare this 2 damn shows is usually from SAO fans |
yakooJun 19, 2013 8:06 AM
OP said: Are SnK fanboys are just the next generation of SAO fanboys? Is "rectal" the new "anal"? analphabet - rectalphabet banality - brectality canal - crectal decanal - derectal EDIT: Yes. |
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| I think a year is a little short to call it a generation.And I'm not really sure either anime can be used to define a generation. So,no. |
| My Devianart Oh & Space Brothers is still the best anime ever,in my opinion.Even when competing with Attack on Titan. |
yakoo said: OK, but I'm less interested in the phenomenon of this happening than the reasoning behind the desire of an SAO fan to compare it to a show that has very little in common with it.Popka said: yakoo said: I'm a fan of both Baccano! and Dennou Coil, but I don't feel the need to compare them. I might if they were at all similar, which I don't think SnK and SAO are.SO what if i told you some(not all of them) Snk fans is also SAO Fanboys,so some people want to compare this 2 damn shows the one who compare this 2 damn shows is usually from SAO fans |
| boy, we are reaching the bottom of the barrel with this thread |
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wukp said: Evangelion doesn't have that kind of popularity and nowhere near people who Love it/worship it. Seems like you don't know a lot of things here. I mean... Right now Eva is more popular than SAO. Just see the success of the last movie, the selling, goodies, hype around it since almost 20 years. How can you even compare something so ephemeral as SAO to it ? And about my taste, eh. There are my taste. I don't think they're better or worse than anyone else. But I can't see the point when talking about SAO/Snk fanboys. If you can't talk with someone who doesn't have the exact same taste as you, there's another problem here. |
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| actually it depends on what this "fanboy" means.... and I genuinely hate blind fanboy, the type of kid who is biased and try to depend their opinion and solve it inside another person's ass... anime is just like 2 sides of coin, it has its good and bad, its up and down, and these kids would never understand it, they always look at this "positive" eventhough there are thousand of plotholes TL;DR : NO This is the internet, If one does not agree with one's opinion it is totally and utterly wrong |
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mitch3315 said: SAO fanboys were just the next generation of Mirai Nikki fanboys. It's a vicious cycle. I wasn't paying attention when the whole Sword Art Online shit storm was going on, but I can definitely say Attack on Titan has some pretty annoying fanboys already. |
ShrabsterJun 19, 2013 10:51 AM
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| *Looks at the amount of OP's posts.* *Looks at the amount of anime OP has completed.* *Looks at OP's join date.* I think you already know better than this. |
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| No, I'm no fanboy of either, but SAO was a shounen hype-machine, it was about as shallow as can be and fell apart by episode 3. SnK is nothing like SAO, although it is generating almost as much hype. Hype creates fanboys, but fanboys of a SnK are not nearly as bad as shounen fanboys. SnK isn't a true shounen, it's more of an action-horror than anything. Besides, other than Oreimo 2 (Which I don't like, but is still not bad) it's the only thing worth watching this season. |
CNileJun 19, 2013 9:01 AM
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CNile said: SnK is a shounen. And shounen is not a bad thing in itself. SAO was bad because it's bad, not because it was a shounen.No, I'm no fanboy of either, but SAO was a shounen hype-machine, it was about as shallow as can be and fell apart by episode 3. SnK is nothing like SAO, although it is generating almost as much hype. Hype creates fanboys, but fanboys of a SnK are not nearly as bad as shounen fanboys. |
Tarextherex said: In other words, Baccano and Kino are the anime equivalent of games like Ninjabread Man and Carnival GamesGenerally speaking.... A lot of anime "shovelware" is based on light novels |
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Popka said: SAO was bad because it's bad, not because it was a shounen You forgot the "in my maverick/renegade opinion". |
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Popka said: CNile said: SnK is a shounen. And shounen is not a bad thing in itself. SAO was bad because it's bad, not because it was a shounen.No, I'm no fanboy of either, but SAO was a shounen hype-machine, it was about as shallow as can be and fell apart by episode 3. SnK is nothing like SAO, although it is generating almost as much hype. Hype creates fanboys, but fanboys of a SnK are not nearly as bad as shounen fanboys. I know, but it looks like I edited my post as you quoted me, I added that Shingeki isn't a true shounen, it's an action-horror type of thing more so than anything. Yes it's shounen, but it's not the same kind of fanboy generating shounen as, say, Naruto. SaberRitsu said: Tarextherex said: In other words, Baccano and Kino are the anime equivalent of Ninjabread Man and Carnival Games. Generally Sspeaking... alot of anime "shovelware" is based on light novels. He said "generally", not all. I don't think that's what he was getting at. |
CNileJun 19, 2013 9:10 AM
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Jyupita said: I like to think people are smart enough that I shouldn't have to say that every time.Popka said: SAO was bad because it's bad, not because it was a shounen You forgot the "in my maverick/renegade opinion". CNile said: I'm just saying that being a shounen doesn't make something bad. Something that is a shounen doesn't have to try not to be one to be good.Popka said: CNile said: SnK is a shounen. And shounen is not a bad thing in itself. SAO was bad because it's bad, not because it was a shounen.No, I'm no fanboy of either, but SAO was a shounen hype-machine, it was about as shallow as can be and fell apart by episode 3. SnK is nothing like SAO, although it is generating almost as much hype. Hype creates fanboys, but fanboys of a SnK are not nearly as bad as shounen fanboys. I know, but it looks like I edited my post as you quoted me, I added that Shingeki isn't a true shounen, it's an action-horror type of thing more so than anything. Yes it's shounen, but it's not the same kind of fanboy generating shounen as, say, Naruto. |
Popka said: SAO was bad because it's bad Yeah, this makes about as much sense as "people die when they are killed!" |
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Dark_Chaos said: I meant that the reasons that SAO is bad are not related to the fact that it's a shounen anime. If you want me to say exactly what I thought was bad about it I will, but not here because it would go way off topic and honestly it isn't something I particularly care to talk about. Popka said: SAO was bad because it's bad Yeah, this makes about as much sense as "people die when they are killed!" And, "people die when they are killed" does make sense, it's just redundant/ |
PopkaJun 19, 2013 9:26 AM
| When will people understand this : |
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| I think the only reason it's so popular is because it's one of the few decent series this season. |
| *Takes a quick glance at mellojello* *and then at potato girl hype* Most definitely yes |
| sexual incest in nisomonogatari - no one bats an eye romance incest in SAO - everyone loses their minds |
| SAO is a gateway anime, so for many people its their first so they will end up being biased towards it, just as generations before with shows like DBZ. SnK is a good show, theres plenty of tension, the animation is great, the plot is interesting and the characters are pretty decent as well, whether or not you enjoy it is all down to personal opinion. SAO is Deus Ex riddled and I have read fanfics with more subtle Mary Sue's than Kirito is. BUT the world building and game play mechanics stuff is done pretty well, so SAO is an anime for MMORPG lovers |
| I enjoy(ed) both shows. |
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