JustALEX said: Light I guess.... He's an anti-hero. It's different. A "villain" is an antagonist. |
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23nv1 said: JustALEX said: Light I guess.... He's an anti-hero. It's different. A "villain" is an antagonist. He isn't anti-hero, just an anti-villain. A villain which arguably light side between them, while an anti-hero is a hero with a arguably dark side. The problem though is that Light fits both of these, but since he is not made to be a hero from the very beginning, he was an anti-villain that become a Villain. |
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| Too many page dedicating for disscusing Light. Anyway villain I like is Gilgamesh since I like his style. |
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Kruszer said: gettogaara said: Kruszer said: If I like a villain that kind of seems like the series is doing something wrong. o.O Why? I mean if the villains are lame or boring then I tend to lose interest in the show. Because most shows are designed with the intention of you, the viewer, sympathizing with the protagonist (good guy) and not liking the show's antagonist (villain). That's why their called the antagonist in the first place, because they're antagonizing and antagonize. Thus if the antagonist is not antagonizing or unlikable and you're not rooting against him/her or like them than the show is doing something wrong. Well either that or trying an unconventional storytelling method like say...Death Note does like flipping the two so the antagonist is the main character. you're confusing your "like" which apparently means "good characterization" with my "like" which would mean "would I want this person as a friend?" I'm all for well written characters too, I just would not like them as people. Light isn't the Antagonist of Death Note. Just because he can be considered the villain doesn't change the fact that he is the protagonist. The Antagonist of DN is L. The Antagonist isn't always a bad guy. |
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Ragna92 said: Kruszer said: gettogaara said: Kruszer said: If I like a villain that kind of seems like the series is doing something wrong. o.O Why? I mean if the villains are lame or boring then I tend to lose interest in the show. Because most shows are designed with the intention of you, the viewer, sympathizing with the protagonist (good guy) and not liking the show's antagonist (villain). That's why their called the antagonist in the first place, because they're antagonizing and antagonize. Thus if the antagonist is not antagonizing or unlikable and you're not rooting against him/her or like them than the show is doing something wrong. Well either that or trying an unconventional storytelling method like say...Death Note does like flipping the two so the antagonist is the main character. you're confusing your "like" which apparently means "good characterization" with my "like" which would mean "would I want this person as a friend?" I'm all for well written characters too, I just would not like them as people. Light isn't the Antagonist of Death Note. Just because he can be considered the villain doesn't change the fact that he is the protagonist. The Antagonist of DN is L. The Antagonist isn't always a bad guy. This. L = The antagonist of the story...but wasn't supposed to be the villain. Antagonist is different from villain. |
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NeoAnkara said: Too many page dedicating for disscusing Light. Anyway villain I like is Gilgamesh since I like his style. I would say that he is a great character, but it's odd for me to call him a great villain, especially that he acted as sort of anti-villain/hero in F/Z. But yeah, most fabulous character of history. |
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012yArthur0 said: He is really memorable. I like his fight with Berserker in Zero.NeoAnkara said: Too many page dedicating for disscusing Light. Anyway villain I like is Gilgamesh since I like his style. I would say that he is a great character, but it's odd for me to call him a great villain, especially that he acted as sort of anti-villain/hero in F/Z. But yeah, most fabulous character of history. |
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NeoAnkara said: 012yArthur0 said: He is really memorable. I like his fight with Berserker in Zero.NeoAnkara said: Too many page dedicating for disscusing Light. Anyway villain I like is Gilgamesh since I like his style. I would say that he is a great character, but it's odd for me to call him a great villain, especially that he acted as sort of anti-villain/hero in F/Z. But yeah, most fabulous character of history. I know, he is one of my favorite characters. I just feel odd to see that he is somewhat good guy depending the way to see him. Well, Gen made him less dickish in F/Z than Nasu made him in F/SN VN. But he is nice overral anyway. Also, Ea is probably the coolest weapon design of the Servants. You can't really beat that drill. |
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012yArthur0 said: Since my memory on anime is still fresh maybe I will read Zero LN in future.NeoAnkara said: 012yArthur0 said: He is really memorable. I like his fight with Berserker in Zero.NeoAnkara said: Too many page dedicating for disscusing Light. Anyway villain I like is Gilgamesh since I like his style. I would say that he is a great character, but it's odd for me to call him a great villain, especially that he acted as sort of anti-villain/hero in F/Z. But yeah, most fabulous character of history. I know, he is one of my favorite characters. I just feel odd to see that he is somewhat good guy depending the way to see him. Well, Gen made him less dickish in F/Z than Nasu made him in F/SN VN. But he is nice overral anyway. Also, Ea is probably the coolest weapon design of the Servants. You can't really beat that drill. |
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| Kira Yoshikage Man was he a strange villain with a strange fetish or so you can all it... |
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012yArthur0 said: NeoAnkara said: 012yArthur0 said: He is really memorable. I like his fight with Berserker in Zero.NeoAnkara said: Too many page dedicating for disscusing Light. Anyway villain I like is Gilgamesh since I like his style. I would say that he is a great character, but it's odd for me to call him a great villain, especially that he acted as sort of anti-villain/hero in F/Z. But yeah, most fabulous character of history. I know, he is one of my favorite characters. I just feel odd to see that he is somewhat good guy depending the way to see him. Well, Gen made him less dickish in F/Z than Nasu made him in F/SN VN. But he is nice overral anyway. Also, Ea is probably the coolest weapon design of the Servants. You can't really beat that drill. Well, he is chaotic good after all. |
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Ragna92 said: 012yArthur0 said: NeoAnkara said: 012yArthur0 said: He is really memorable. I like his fight with Berserker in Zero.NeoAnkara said: Too many page dedicating for disscusing Light. Anyway villain I like is Gilgamesh since I like his style. I would say that he is a great character, but it's odd for me to call him a great villain, especially that he acted as sort of anti-villain/hero in F/Z. But yeah, most fabulous character of history. I know, he is one of my favorite characters. I just feel odd to see that he is somewhat good guy depending the way to see him. Well, Gen made him less dickish in F/Z than Nasu made him in F/SN VN. But he is nice overral anyway. Also, Ea is probably the coolest weapon design of the Servants. You can't really beat that drill. Well, he is chaotic good after all. Exactly. And this made alot of confusion for the fans, especially that he was nothing but a dick in the anime and in Fate/UBW route. But you could see some side of his nice-guyish in HF. |
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Jovoo said: Team Rocket. Isn't Pokemon a kids' anime? |
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yhunata said: MAL says it's a shounen.Jovoo said: Team Rocket. Isn't Pokemon a kids' anime? |
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IntroverTurtle said: yhunata said: MAL says it's a shounen.Jovoo said: Team Rocket. Isn't Pokemon a kids' anime? I was actually kidding around, but I'll take that. |
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IntroverTurtle said: yhunata said: MAL says it's a shounen.Jovoo said: Team Rocket. Isn't Pokemon a kids' anime? My childhood was a lie. But seriously? Damn, I always though it was a kid's anime. |
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yhunata said: Yeah you can check yourself. Though it is rated G for all ages.IntroverTurtle said: yhunata said: MAL says it's a shounen.Jovoo said: Team Rocket. Isn't Pokemon a kids' anime? My childhood was a lie. But seriously? Damn, I always though it was a kid's anime. |
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IntroverTurtle said: Anyway they are different now and become more badass.yhunata said: Yeah you can check yourself. Though it is rated G for all ages.IntroverTurtle said: yhunata said: MAL says it's a shounen.Jovoo said: Team Rocket. Isn't Pokemon a kids' anime? My childhood was a lie. But seriously? Damn, I always though it was a kid's anime. |
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NeoAnkara said: They're back to being the same, that only lasted for a few episodes...IntroverTurtle said: Anyway they are different now and become more badass.yhunata said: Yeah you can check yourself. Though it is rated G for all ages.IntroverTurtle said: yhunata said: MAL says it's a shounen.Jovoo said: Team Rocket. Isn't Pokemon a kids' anime? My childhood was a lie. But seriously? Damn, I always though it was a kid's anime. |
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Alexx_ said: NeoAnkara said: They're back to being the same, that only lasted for a few episodes...IntroverTurtle said: Anyway they are different now and become more badass.yhunata said: Yeah you can check yourself. Though it is rated G for all ages.IntroverTurtle said: yhunata said: MAL says it's a shounen.Jovoo said: Team Rocket. Isn't Pokemon a kids' anime? My childhood was a lie. But seriously? Damn, I always though it was a kid's anime. Alexx_ said: Dunno how I feel about them when they change. Anyway DP just begun recently in my country so I will still observe them.NeoAnkara said: They're back to being the same, that only lasted for a few episodes...IntroverTurtle said: Anyway they are different now and become more badass.yhunata said: Yeah you can check yourself. Though it is rated G for all ages.IntroverTurtle said: yhunata said: MAL says it's a shounen.Jovoo said: Team Rocket. Isn't Pokemon a kids' anime? My childhood was a lie. But seriously? Damn, I always though it was a kid's anime. |
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| For me, it would have to be Ulquiorra from Bleach. Not only is his fight with Vasto Lorde Ichigo probably the best in the series in my opinion, but even though he was created by Aizen, he sought to seek out human emotion through Orihime. Ulquiorra was actually trying to gain an understanding, not just act as one of Aizens puppets, common to others such as Grimmjow and Nnoitora. Also, his colour scheme of green and black, and his attitude of despair make him badass in my books ^.^ |
Holybaptiser said: It's not argument, just stating the facts. Also Naruto has more development (about 50x) than Death Note so what?k11chi said: This is by far the worst argument you could ever make in regards to anything related to characters. It is an author's job to create realistic and relate-able characters by development through trails and tribulations in the story in which they are presented, regardless of setting or plot.012yArthur0 said: Death Note is not based on real world, it's a world with magical notebooks and shinigami. about the same as Bleach thenlupadim said: jimbob1141 said: lupadim said: After thinking a while: Yagami Light is not weak willed. He is NORMAL willed. But he is definitely not strong-willed and not even close to someone that is close to being close to being the best villain in anime history. Mate you are fucking retarded, just because people say they would kill criminals doesn't mean they actually could. Killing someone would be enough to send most people insane. Light has a strong will. But anyway i cba arguing with you, i doubt it's possible, especially when you see blackbeards story as "kill someone, run away, make crew, starts shooting people" KIlling sends most people insane?HAAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA You are living in the world of anime certainly, "fucking retarded"! It's not being "fucking retarded", Lupadim. It's something easily called "common sense". It takes guts to kill someone unless their morality was made to be otherwise. That being said, Light's character was developed properly, because of the heavy toll that murder brings on a human's conscience. He went from eradicating criminals to killing police officers in pursuit of him and eventually his own allies. It showed how far he had descended into madness through consistently murdering others. It was like, "once you kill a man, you might as well kill a dozen. It's all the same thing." |
k11chi said: Holybaptiser said: It's not argument, just stating the facts. Also Naruto has more development (about 50x) than Death Note so what?k11chi said: This is by far the worst argument you could ever make in regards to anything related to characters. It is an author's job to create realistic and relate-able characters by development through trails and tribulations in the story in which they are presented, regardless of setting or plot.012yArthur0 said: Death Note is not based on real world, it's a world with magical notebooks and shinigami. about the same as Bleach thenlupadim said: jimbob1141 said: lupadim said: After thinking a while: Yagami Light is not weak willed. He is NORMAL willed. But he is definitely not strong-willed and not even close to someone that is close to being close to being the best villain in anime history. Mate you are fucking retarded, just because people say they would kill criminals doesn't mean they actually could. Killing someone would be enough to send most people insane. Light has a strong will. But anyway i cba arguing with you, i doubt it's possible, especially when you see blackbeards story as "kill someone, run away, make crew, starts shooting people" KIlling sends most people insane?HAAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA You are living in the world of anime certainly, "fucking retarded"! It's not being "fucking retarded", Lupadim. It's something easily called "common sense". It takes guts to kill someone unless their morality was made to be otherwise. That being said, Light's character was developed properly, because of the heavy toll that murder brings on a human's conscience. He went from eradicating criminals to killing police officers in pursuit of him and eventually his own allies. It showed how far he had descended into madness through consistently murdering others. It was like, "once you kill a man, you might as well kill a dozen. It's all the same thing." Then your "facts" are wrong, my friend. |
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NeoAnkara said: IntroverTurtle said: Anyway they are different now and become more badass.yhunata said: Yeah you can check yourself. Though it is rated G for all ages.IntroverTurtle said: yhunata said: MAL says it's a shounen.Jovoo said: Team Rocket. Isn't Pokemon a kids' anime? My childhood was a lie. But seriously? Damn, I always though it was a kid's anime. Rated G for Gary. Seriously, he was the ace of the show back in the show. |
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| Donflamingo, Akainu, Cell and Ulquirroa. |
| Byakuran from reborn!.. . Well, i think because he's pretty unique and has weird personality. XD |
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Serenity_776 said: Byakuran from reborn!.. . Well, i think because he's pretty unique and has weird personality. XD He seemed pretty motiveless though.. |
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tsudecimo said: Serenity_776 said: Byakuran from reborn!.. . Well, i think because he's pretty unique and has weird personality. XD He seemed pretty motiveless though.. He wanted Pretty damn good motive, if you ask me. |
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yhunata said: tsudecimo said: Serenity_776 said: Byakuran from reborn!.. . Well, i think because he's pretty unique and has weird personality. XD He seemed pretty motiveless though.. He wanted Pretty damn good motive, if you ask me. That's exactly why I found him motiveless and they never gave him a proper background from what I remember. |
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johnyjohny said: Griffith, he did worst things imaginable. I'll say the same thing I said the last time you posted him in this thread. Berserk isn't a shounen. It's a seinen. |
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insan3soldiern said: Hmm? got the feeling you are a bit irritated,but okay. Knives from Trigun was pretty fucked up two. Never forget that rape face of his.johnyjohny said: Griffith, he did worst things imaginable. I'll say the same thing I said the last time you posted him in this thread. Berserk isn't a shounen. It's a seinen. |
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Neane1993 said: Toguro the Younger is probably my favorite Shonen villain. Yeah, I think Younger Toguro is probably my favorite shounen villain too. I have other "villains" I like a little more, but I guess I can't count them because they do not remain villains. Bleach Spoiler (for the couple of people who haven't seen the SS Arc) Edit: Hisoka has the potential to become my favorite but I haven't seen enough of Hunter x Hunter yet to say his my fav yet. |
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Polychrome said: Hisoka from HxH  |
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Vandalyzm said: Polychrome said: Hisoka from HxH |
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Candor said: Aizen, obviously. What he said. |
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Candor said: Aizen, obviously. |
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| i'd have to go with raoh from fist of the north star-SSSSSOOOO BADASS AND MAAANNNRRRYYYY |
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| Meruem Genthru Hisoka Chrollo Neferpitou All from Hunter x Hunter, which has a really great set of villains Zabuza from naruto Bleachbeard from one piece, those are pretty cool as well. Nnoitra from Bleach. I think Toguro is overrated though. |
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