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Mikasa said: Pipoko said: They captured Ceasar which was the main objective of the arc :D Nope. No progression. They'll find One Piece and there's still no progression. uh-huh, and how did they manage to do that? Were the 50 chapters all building up to it, or some way around it? Or were they, in someway, just running around and talking to sobbing crack babies? And the target they were trying to capture.. was he of any significance? So that they needed 50 chapters to get him? Next time on Dragon Ball Z So what if it took 40 chapters? There was A LOT happening during those and just beacuse it is filler for you it doesn't mean its filler for everyone. You're one of those types who just want to see Oda blitz through the main story and remove all the fillerish parts. That is why you would be bad storyteller, beacuse those fillerish parts are thing that build one piece world, they might not mean anthing in grand scale, but there are here, existing. I'm glad Oda is showing it, and he is showing things that are are not needed and he is not rushing with them. We enjoy every moment, you just want it to move forward, that is lack of patience. I will agree that children were annoying, but this chapter... maybe not interesting, but certainly wasn't filler |
Dahaka_Jan 16, 2013 11:46 AM
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Dahaka_ said: tankoubon-feind said: im surprised at how weak baby 5 and buffalo are. how the fuck did they get hired by doflamingo?? overall pretty lame chapter but it seems like one of those setup chapters so expect some big thing in the next few weeks. They are not weak, just SH are strong. They can't let themselves lose to some low level villains anymore. Especially after 2 year training :) I havent really seen anything out of baby 5 or buffalo that would indicate that they wouldn't have been beaten just as easily by the same strawhats before the timeskip.You would think it would take a little more than spinning and becoming weapons to compete in the new world and thats all i've seen from those two. |
Mikasa said: Pipoko said: They captured Ceasar which was the main objective of the arc :D Nope. No progression. They'll find One Piece and there's still no progression. uh-huh, and how did they manage to do that? Were the 50 chapters all building up to it, or some way around it? Or were they, in someway, just running around and talking to sobbing crack babies? And the target they were trying to capture.. was he of any significance? So that they needed 50 chapters to get him? Next time on Dragon Ball Z This is roughly 18 pages of a manga that will likely hit 1000 chapters and people are complaining about story progression? hahaha this is merely an introduction to the new world, if you expected everything to be marineford from the timeskip on you might as well quit now and stop whining. |
x5exotic said: Pipoko said: I like how you're complaining about plot armour when we basically had 120 chapters of the SH getting trashed. Starting from TB and ending with Marineford. Plus before that W7 and EL when they had to push themselves to the limits. It's just how a story works, no? East Blue and everything up to Alabasta was basically the same as now. Except back then in a 100 chapters 5 members joined, a whole saga was finished, it moved somewhere, it built something, Fishmen were relevant, Luffy's rubber wasn't randomly stupid, Nami wasn't a stripper, she was a navigator. Sanji wasn't nearly as annoying. There was more adventure than action. There was more action than stupid-ass action. All of that was the start which was "simple and slow" where do you draw the line between action and "stupid ass action" because if your going to go on to say the the fights from anywhere before skypiea were better than fights like law vs virgo I don't think you'll be able to find many who agree with you. If you prefer luffy and the SHs running through every enemy like butter than I'm not sure you''ll enjoy the new world very much. |
| @Pipoko it seems obvious to me. The doflamingo family, calling him young master is just comparing Doflamingo's crew as a mafia like organization, whereas the "Hearts" seat is the heart pirates branch of the organization. I think that's the most probable case as Law did say he was under Joker almost the whole time before, as he knew Vergo which was a great secret, as well as something only the oldest in doflamingo's crew know. I wanted to say something else though but started to read comments and now it got away...dayum. OH YEAH. I know, it's about Buffalo and Baby 5. Of course they are weak compared to the straw hats, what were you expecting? They already destroyed 2 Warlords of the Sea, it's only natural another warlord to be far above them after the power up (ofc. I mean the crew of the warlord, especially Doflamingo's who wasn't power uping at all...I mean, only Doflamingo was in relevant and hard battles, others were like, chilling in Dressrosa and delivering Dope Fruit from island to island undercover...) Only the Warlords themselves would pose a threat to the SH now in that class...I mean, it's like expecting Mr. 1 can do something against Zoro now... EDIT: ^ by the way, this arc was all about the SHs running through their enemies like butter...or w/e you called it ^^ the only hard fight there was, was Sanji vs. Vergo, which Sanji didn't even lose, just withdrew... |
| This world is mine. I think this world may even just be a long, long dream I'm watching. You guys may just be illusions, and it can't be proven whether or not you really exist either. In other words, this world was created with me at the center. So what will happen if I die? I don't know. My imagination isn't very creative; I just can't imagine myself dying. In other words, there is no way this world can completely disappear. But if I die, then everyone will disappear. I am the only one in this world who won't disappear. The rest are just people I see as if in a dream. -Claire Stanfield, Baccano! |
| First off this is probably one of the most badass shots of the crew and co. Secondly nose-kun's guts pose! and as for the last page... |
| This chapter was awesome, this arc didnt show any fights between Usopp, Nami and Franky. It was really well done on this chapter. Love how the kids and G5 were like Luffy when they saw Franky and Robin, Nami and Tashigi was just "dead silent" xD The barrage of attacks done on Buffalo and Baby-5, to be honest, I expected them to be more stronger.. Franky's has a portable Gaon Cannon = 10x Destructive Force Nami can now control lightning. Usopp's New Weapon was awesome, it can expand in size, it can shoot anything like a gattling. I also never thought Law would lose his calm, shows how serious his plan must be. And Zoro's quote, "Dont judge a nose by its cover" lool Badass panel  I wonder who was the person foreshadowed at the last page, damn Oda always leaves a good cliffhanger. I first thought it was Mihawk, but the way he talks indicates a lazy, non-serious, person. |
skwok-ravenJan 16, 2013 1:44 PM
 "Have you ever encounter a wild beast that guarantees to never bite anyone?" ~ Roronoa Zoro |
| This was pretty funny. I wonder whether they'll leave the three underwater or if they'll send someone to recover them? Law still needs Caesar, after all. Plus, Baby 5 needs to meet Sanji. |
| Dear Math, I'm not a therapist. Solve your own problems. Oh, and Algebra? Stop asking us to find your ex, she's NEVER coming back. |
| Awesome chapter. The wait was well worth it. It was great to see Nami and Usopp show off more of their new abilities. The Shogun was awesome. I wonder who the mysterious person is. Cannot wait for next week. |
"I’ve set myself to become the King of the Pirates…and if I die trying…then at least I tried!" Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) |
| so no Flamingo next chapter either :/ but that shadowy figure will be strong or something, right? |
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Deathraver said: Badass panel Sanji oglin' on Baby 5 lol |
| The big brown fox jumps over the lazy dog |
| I wonder if Kuzan is riding his bike again? He is known to take naps when he should be doing something more important and he is probably the type to forget how to get to a place. |
| Now if I looked closely at the shadowy figure.. it seems like a person riding on some kind of duck-like animal... Check it out and see what you think  EDIT: Should be "hands on thigh" but you get the point xD EDIT2: Oh.. someone beat me to it, but my view was different at least lol |
skwok-ravenJan 17, 2013 12:28 AM
"Have you ever encounter a wild beast that guarantees to never bite anyone?" ~ Roronoa Zoro |
| ^ ya that's probably it, I srsly think it's Kuzan on it. |
| This world is mine. I think this world may even just be a long, long dream I'm watching. You guys may just be illusions, and it can't be proven whether or not you really exist either. In other words, this world was created with me at the center. So what will happen if I die? I don't know. My imagination isn't very creative; I just can't imagine myself dying. In other words, there is no way this world can completely disappear. But if I die, then everyone will disappear. I am the only one in this world who won't disappear. The rest are just people I see as if in a dream. -Claire Stanfield, Baccano! |
| Damn, Ussop using sea stones is just pure Genius. I don't think its fair to call him the weakest now since he can use sea stones to cancel out devil fruit powers. Seeing as most powerhouses are devil fruit users, he can be a very dangerous opponent. I hope he uses more sea stones otherwise it'll be a complete waste D: |
    Do you have any idea how stupid we are? Don't underestimate us!!! |
| excited to see who the "mysterious figure" is. loving the theories in this thread. somebody sitting on the head of a giant seagull/bird would be AWESOME. possible suggestion of it being Aokiji (seagull = marines (even though he's no longer a marine BLAH BLAH))? that'd be fun. i'd like to know how he feels towards the strawhats now. it'd be good if he came to resent the marines due to akainu's nomination for fleet admiral, and decided to ALLY himself with the SHs. i'll be pretty disappointed if it turns out to just be joker, since we know he's on his way anyway. |
| Nice chapter |
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| Why do people think its Joker? Its stupid to think that, really.. He was shown to be coming to Punk Hazard without any foreshadowing, why would this foreshadowed character be Doflamingo? Not to mention, he completely doesnt seem like in a hurry like Doflamingo was. Aokiji did make a bird-ice attack didnt he? Maybe the thing he is riding on is an ice pheasant? |
skwok-ravenJan 17, 2013 2:30 PM
"Have you ever encounter a wild beast that guarantees to never bite anyone?" ~ Roronoa Zoro |
| The 'manner' of the silhouette's speech could have been skewed by the translator, right? Cause if the translator thinks it's Aokiji, he could essentially make it sound more like Aokiji, right? The Mangastream panel doesn't imply that the silhouette has been to Punk Hazard already by the way :d |
Yuujou said: The 'manner' of the silhouette's speech could have been skewed by the translator, right? Cause if the translator thinks it's Aokiji, he could essentially make it sound more like Aokiji, right? The Mangastream panel doesn't imply that the silhouette has been to Punk Hazard already by the way :d It might be like this: Aokiji is known as a lazy person right? Punk Hazard is a island that is hidden from the magnetic waves. Since he was a Marine that time, he had access for the location. Now he is not, and is troubled to find it? Maybe that can be the reason =/ |
"Have you ever encounter a wild beast that guarantees to never bite anyone?" ~ Roronoa Zoro |
| Whoever this is, it's either Aokiji or a completely new character. I'm hoping it's Aokiji. |
tankoubon-feind said: This is roughly 18 pages of a manga that will likely hit 1000 chapters and people are complaining about story progression? hahaha this is merely an introduction to the new world, if you expected everything to be marineford from the timeskip on you might as well quit now and stop whining. I love how all of you sound the same, in trying so hard to justify it. "oh this manga is long so it can be slow" Being long is NOT an excuse, it's a privilege. Being long HELPS you focus on more characters than a shorter series, try to develop more of them and connect more dots to each other. It does NOT mean you can just stall around because you have no better ideas than this and you have some extra chapters. If chapters are all so pointless, then you might as well do a shorter manga with exactly the same content, same progression, same development, but without all the extra bullshit writing in-between. "you expected this to be like Marineford?" OK I'm gonna drop this bomb for you, for me, and some others, Marineford (and Enies Lobby) were absolute shit. Just a whole arc about this guy vs that guy in not-good-at-all fights with so much PIS. It could've been an actual war with planning and shit. But nope. They have to make it a generic shonen arc. So in a way, Punk Hazard IS like Marineford for me. Trying too hard to do many things at once and it all ends up being convoluted crap. Both could've been much better. I started reading one piece as one piece, Don't want to finish it as DBZ Rip off #34 tankoubon-feind said: where do you draw the line between action and "stupid ass action" because if your going to go on to say the the fights from anywhere before skypiea were better than fights like law vs virgo I don't think you'll be able to find many who agree with you. If you prefer luffy and the SHs running through every enemy like butter than I'm not sure you''ll enjoy the new world very much. Stupid-ass action is anything that uses mindless explosions, punches, whatever, in random ways and/or ends in the good guys winning with the power of will and/or an asspull. Good action comes in many ways, you can have some power fights with explosions alright with good enough choreography, some trickery and/or some psychological impact. Stupid ass action: Enies Lobby fights onward Good action: Early luffy fights when his Rubber was versatile and not nearly omnipotent or something. Also Robin's fights in Skypiea, or her fights in general. But overall OP doesn't excel in fights, so as I said, it should stick to the adventure/exploration part more. |
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x5exotic said: tankoubon-feind said: This is roughly 18 pages of a manga that will likely hit 1000 chapters and people are complaining about story progression? hahaha this is merely an introduction to the new world, if you expected everything to be marineford from the timeskip on you might as well quit now and stop whining. I love how all of you sound the same, in trying so hard to justify it. "oh this manga is long so it can be slow" Being long is NOT an excuse, it's a privilege. Being long HELPS you focus on more characters than a shorter series, try to develop more of them and connect more dots to each other. It does NOT mean you can just stall around because you have no better ideas than this and you have some extra chapters. If chapters are all so pointless, then you might as well do a shorter manga with exactly the same content, same progression, same development, but without all the extra bullshit writing in-between. "you expected this to be like Marineford?" OK I'm gonna drop this bomb for you, for me, and some others, Marineford (and Enies Lobby) were absolute shit. Just a whole arc about this guy vs that guy in not-good-at-all fights with so much PIS. It could've been an actual war with planning and shit. But nope. They have to make it a generic shonen arc. So in a way, Punk Hazard IS like Marineford for me. Trying too hard to do many things at once and it all ends up being convoluted crap. Both could've been much better. I started reading one piece as one piece, Don't want to finish it as DBZ Rip off #34 tankoubon-feind said: where do you draw the line between action and "stupid ass action" because if your going to go on to say the the fights from anywhere before skypiea were better than fights like law vs virgo I don't think you'll be able to find many who agree with you. If you prefer luffy and the SHs running through every enemy like butter than I'm not sure you''ll enjoy the new world very much. Stupid-ass action is anything that uses mindless explosions, punches, whatever, in random ways and/or ends in the good guys winning with the power of will and/or an asspull. Good action comes in many ways, you can have some power fights with explosions alright with good enough choreography, some trickery and/or some psychological impact. Stupid ass action: Enies Lobby fights onward Good action: Early luffy fights when his Rubber was versatile and not nearly omnipotent or something. Also Robin's fights in Skypiea, or her fights in general. But overall OP doesn't excel in fights, so as I said, it should stick to the adventure/exploration part more. I agree about the being long doesnt mean you should go slow but i disagree that this arc is trying to do to many things and has become a convoluted crap. It isn't trying to do to much at all, a lot has happened we have seen a few cool things like the supernova alliances and such but it isn't trying to do to much at all. It's not like there is a giant mess of bullshit where you cant even tell what's going on, I'm not saying that everyone should like the arc, but it isn't trying to do too many things. |
| Does anyone else need a doctor to confirm that someone without a head is dead? |
| If all guys are saying it's plot armor and lame that Luffy and the main cast always survive, yeah...well, it is. They can't die, the show's about them and they need to survive for like 1k episodes moar. On the other hand, fights are pretty epic and the dmg done seems real, so I wouldn't call it they win just because they're the main characters. I would say so for Fairy Tail, but not so much for One Piece. In OP they survive because only 2% of people actually die in op world. |
| This world is mine. I think this world may even just be a long, long dream I'm watching. You guys may just be illusions, and it can't be proven whether or not you really exist either. In other words, this world was created with me at the center. So what will happen if I die? I don't know. My imagination isn't very creative; I just can't imagine myself dying. In other words, there is no way this world can completely disappear. But if I die, then everyone will disappear. I am the only one in this world who won't disappear. The rest are just people I see as if in a dream. -Claire Stanfield, Baccano! |
| Good to see Franky, Usopp and Nami showing off their awesome new fighting skills. |
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| Nami and Usopp were really cool. The girls still don't like the Shogun. |
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| That was disappointing. I expected Baby 5 to be a formidable opponent, but she turned out to be a weakling, being beaten just like that. Nonetheless, I'm glad that Usopp and Nami have improved. It seems all the members of Luffy's crew are completely skilled now. |
 She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did! |
| Really hope that's Aokiji. Only way the alliance will survive Doflamigo. Well not really but you get the point. x5exotic said: "you expected this to be like Marineford?" OK I'm gonna drop this bomb for you, for me, and some others, Marineford (and Enies Lobby) were absolute shit. Just a whole arc about this guy vs that guy in not-good-at-all fights with so much PIS. It could've been an actual war with planning and shit. But nope. They have to make it a generic shonen arc. So in a way, Punk Hazard IS like Marineford for me. Trying too hard to do many things at once and it all ends up being convoluted crap. Both could've been much better. Except it was an actual war with planning and shit. You do realise that Ace was bait, right? And the fact that the WB pirates were going to be surrounded? Your only argument for it being shit seems to be that it had fights which is stupid considering it was an actual war with planning and shit which would naturally involve fights. |
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| Baby 5 and Buffalo defeated! Caesar catched!! And DonFlamingo is .....coming!!!! kekeke |
| I loved the awesome moment of "they're enemies" they all look so badass!!! I wonder who it is at the end? Nami and Usopp teaming up was very cool too |
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