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Dec 19, 2012 2:07 AM
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Was reading TvTropes on this, so I figured why not find out how many are what here?

As for me, I was originally one of those cynical angsty teens who "found out about the world," suddenly thought everyone was heartless and didn't know what being human was. After exploring the world for a bit, it turns out most humans aren't exactly one dimensional like that, so I became a bit optimistic/idealistic.

After a few years of college, it turns out there actually are one dimensional people (dicks, shallow, ignorant, blah blah), so I regressed a bit back into being cynicism. I still have a lingering hope that people are inherently good, but experience hasn't been quite nice like that.

So, what state of mind do you think you lean to? Do your actions reflect that? How did you become that way?

Oh, and I added Apathy as a choice since I've met my share of people who couldn't give a shit for ANYTHING.
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Dec 19, 2012 2:19 AM
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I'm a skeptic....so I guess I'm cynical.
Dec 19, 2012 4:26 AM
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I'm a cynical idealist.

hpulley said:
Given that 99% of people here on MAL download instead of buying, I am definitely cynical about anime and manga fans... I buy which might make me personally an idealist but I voted cynical.

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Dec 19, 2012 5:46 AM
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I lean more towards cynicism, but I find that that changes depending on where and who I'm with. Like when I'm at work I'm more apathetic.


Dec 19, 2012 6:00 AM
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Dec 19, 2012 6:10 AM
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Apathetic.
Dec 19, 2012 6:20 AM
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Cynical.
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Dec 19, 2012 6:35 AM
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I'm a cynic. 'Down with the government' -- that sort of thing.
Dec 19, 2012 7:06 AM
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Apathetic...




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Hitler was good, objectively.
Dec 19, 2012 7:33 AM

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It depends on my mood. Currently, I'm apathetic.
Dec 19, 2012 7:36 AM

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I'm a very cynical person, but I sometimes tend to be pretty apathetic too.
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Dec 19, 2012 7:52 AM

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Depends, I'm generally cynical towards most things, but for some reason I still have a unshakable idealistic faith in the greatness of mankind. One day, we will rule the universe.

But most of the time I guess I'm just apathetic. 3X secret super combo.
Dec 19, 2012 8:48 AM

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depends on my mood. i can be all of them.
Dec 19, 2012 8:59 AM

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Mostly Apathetic.
Dec 19, 2012 9:20 AM
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I'm pathetic
Dec 19, 2012 9:53 AM

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All three.
Dec 19, 2012 10:02 AM
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More cynical. I naturally expect people to be complete bastards. Although, I can go into idealistic or apathetic ramblings whenever because I'm easily influenced by emotion alone.
Dec 19, 2012 10:03 AM

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Depends on my mood.
Dec 19, 2012 5:45 PM
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rhapsodie said:
I'm a cynic. 'Down with the government' -- that sort of thing.


You do realize that there is a difference between cynicism and anarchism?

As for me, I am a realist.
Dec 19, 2012 5:49 PM

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I an an idealist... I believe that people are good! I have no friends... but the kindness and warmth I feel from my favorite anime make me believe that there are good people out there... Maybe some day I will find someone to love me...
Dec 19, 2012 5:57 PM

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ChibiFantasy said:
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Lol at your club. Elite dropping, eh?
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@Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian.
Dec 19, 2012 6:09 PM

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Cynical

If you really want to fit in, just put Legend of the Galactic Heroes in your top 5 and have it be the only 10-rated anime in your list.
Dec 19, 2012 6:10 PM

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The amount of cynics and apathetic people saddens me ):
Dec 19, 2012 6:20 PM

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Post-Josh said:
ChibiFantasy said:
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Lol at your club. Elite dropping, eh?

We only let in people who are committed to dropping anime. You are welcome to apply once you have dropped more, friend! :-)
Dec 19, 2012 6:23 PM

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I’m an idealist however as of late I’ve noticed I’m turning into more of a cynic...
Dec 19, 2012 6:28 PM

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We can't we have both?
Dec 19, 2012 6:32 PM

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I'm more often an idealist than a cynic so I went with idealism.
Dec 20, 2012 12:18 AM

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Chaotic Neutral
Dec 20, 2012 12:22 AM

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Hm...
I'm dead. Don't come looking for me.
Dec 20, 2012 12:25 AM

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Ah well, every stranger I meet generally starts off with me disliking them and not trusting them. Soo I guess im a Cynic. Cant help it.
I dont think people are inherently good. I believe they are inherently evil, Imo.

Im a Devil's advocate. Its just too fun.
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Dec 20, 2012 12:27 AM

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I'm idealistic but I know the world tends to make one cynical.

Dec 20, 2012 12:28 AM

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MellowJello said:
The amount of cynics and apathetic people saddens me ):


The world we live in made people be like that, really I myself hardly see how I could actually be an Idealist with all these crimes, wars for money, people doing all kinds of stupid shit etc etc etc

Really, in case you didn't observe I'm apathetic, I used to be cynical but really I stopped caring one or two years ago.
Dec 20, 2012 3:39 AM

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Kira-oniisan said:
MellowJello said:
The amount of cynics and apathetic people saddens me ):

The world we live in made people be like that, really I myself hardly see how I could actually be an Idealist with all these crimes, wars for money, people doing all kinds of stupid shit etc etc etc

At the same time though, there's always a lot of good going around. Charities, good will, therapy puppies; heck, New York's crime rate is at a historic low! It shouldn't that hard to have positive thinking, right?
Kira-oniisan said:
Really, in case you didn't observe I'm apathetic, I used to be cynical but really I stopped caring one or two years ago.

Good thing I added that vote; seems a lot more apathetic people exist (at least in MAL) than I expected...
Akito_Kinomoto said:
We can't we have both?

Good question. I just liked forcing people to choose one or the other (or apathy), since the middle answer for black and white-type questions is boring.
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Dec 20, 2012 3:51 AM

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I'm a duckling.
Dec 20, 2012 3:56 AM

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Nidstang said:
I'm a duckling.

As a duckling, do you lean towards a cynical or idealistic mindset? Or do you not give a shit?

Other ducklings might want to know.
Dec 20, 2012 10:20 AM

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i guess i've been both idealism or cynical in my life, always changing opinion or way of thinking...so i voted the 4th option
Dec 20, 2012 10:21 AM

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I'd prefer to say I was a realist.
Dec 20, 2012 10:38 AM

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Cynical, I guess. My view about humans is not really that good and it gets worse as days go by. I truly trust very few people and am skeptical about the rest. Funnily enough, I have a lot of friends, though.
Dec 20, 2012 11:21 AM

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Zackirus said:
rhapsodie said:
I'm a cynic. 'Down with the government' -- that sort of thing.


You do realize that there is a difference between cynicism and anarchism?

As for me, I am a realist.


I totally agree with this. I try to be as realistic as possible but my personality is super optimistic. So I'm a realistic idealist? XD
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Dec 20, 2012 11:25 AM

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Like many others it seems, I have idealist hopes and cynical expectations.
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Dec 20, 2012 11:28 AM

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MellowJello said:
Kira-oniisan said:
MellowJello said:
The amount of cynics and apathetic people saddens me ):

The world we live in made people be like that, really I myself hardly see how I could actually be an Idealist with all these crimes, wars for money, people doing all kinds of stupid shit etc etc etc

At the same time though, there's always a lot of good going around. Charities, good will, therapy puppies; heck, New York's crime rate is at a historic low! It shouldn't that hard to have positive thinking, right?


Well I'm not up to date with the stuff going down in America(I don't live there so there's no reason for me to actually care)
I am aware of some of the good stuff going around in the world, I'm not up to date with news or anything of the kind, I don't care myself, but I highly admire people who are able to foresee a better future for humanity, I'm just not able to hope anymore.
Dec 20, 2012 1:45 PM

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I am apathetic for the most part, more leaning towards being cynic though...

I have had my fill of shallow people, and like others have said, the world itself also turns out to be not so kind. Friends and enemies come and go, and being idealically taoist, i learned not to care either way.

No one will hurt my feelings if they decide not to like me, i wont care if they dont want to be my friend either. I dont have very much expectations for people, although i am still open minded and try to do what they dont.
Dec 20, 2012 2:45 PM

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I like to believe that most people are inherently good and friendly.
Dec 20, 2012 4:45 PM

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Hmm hard choice between being cynical and apathy. I guess I will go cynical, because I do care about the world around me and to a lesser extent my part in it. But im definetly cynical only have to look at the number of shit wrong in the world, and frankly I dont think the good balances it out either, as the good stuff doesnt seem to be shared with the majority. Where definetly living in at least a dark shade of gray world. While theres still millions of people dieing from lack of basic needs I will always be cynical about the world we live in.
And thats only one part of it, i could go on.
Dec 22, 2012 1:54 AM

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I try to be an idealist but then I just see all this crap and I'm just like...nope.
Dec 22, 2012 1:56 AM

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I voted for apathy, but that isn't really true. It's more that I just don't see the good vs evil dichotomy anymore. I can't find any reason why I should necessarily attribute selfish to being evil, or altruistic to being good. It's more likely that most people have a whole range of motivations that show themselves depending on how you turn the kaleidoscope.
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Dec 22, 2012 2:04 AM

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MellowJello said:
Kira-oniisan said:
MellowJello said:
The amount of cynics and apathetic people saddens me ):

The world we live in made people be like that, really I myself hardly see how I could actually be an Idealist with all these crimes, wars for money, people doing all kinds of stupid shit etc etc etc

At the same time though, there's always a lot of good going around. Charities, good will, therapy puppies; heck, New York's crime rate is at a historic low! It shouldn't that hard to have positive thinking, right?


You're definitely right about that. But at the same time, there are quite a lot of things in this world that is absolutely hard to stay positive about.

Still, I wouldn't exactly call myself either a full-blown cynic or idealist. I have a little bit of both, I'd say. But I voted cynic anyway. :P
Dec 22, 2012 6:20 AM

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This poll needed to list another option.

1) Realistic
2) In between, Other, etc
Dec 22, 2012 6:20 AM

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Cynical it seems. I have long since lost my hope in humanity.

Dec 22, 2012 6:21 AM

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I am an elitist
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