Will it effect people who watch fansubs or stream online?
Yes
20.9%
27
No
49.6%
64
Maybe
29.5%
38
129 votes
| http://torrentfreak.com/anti-downloading-law-hits-japan-up-to-2-years-in-prison-from-today-121001/ Download = 2 Years Prison + 2 million yen ($25,680) Fine. Upload = 10 Years Prison + 10 million yen ($128,300) Fine . What do you guys think ? |
| Probably not :D So many movies and music streams and downloads out there and it is illegal... I don't see this being any different. We will still have our anime :D |
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| Meh there are ways around it not like it makes a real difference for those of us in America. |
MidnightPride said: Meh there are ways around it not like it makes a real difference for those of us in America. That is until the japanese entertainment companies start extraditing us to japan for trial, like that european kid who was brought to america by the MPAA or whatever |
| It will effect Japanese ppl with their own illegal streaming, but not people outside Japan. |
Plusme said: It will effect Japanese ppl with their own illegal streaming, but not people outside Japan. what about fansubs ? Fansubs need raw video from japan. |
TrOjAnHoRsE said: Plusme said: It will effect Japanese ppl with their own illegal streaming, but not people outside Japan. what about fansubs ? Fansubs need raw video from japan. And raws will still be available one way or another. This has always been illegal, it still happens. Besides - if you really want to get down to it, HS (and basically everyone else) already rips the subs from CR - all they'd need to do from now on is rip the video too. As long as official simulcasting is around this doesn't really matter, it'll lower the image quality and that's about it. Oh and I suppose they'd be hardsubs, but you're still getting the same shit you do now the same way in the same amount of time. Hell, maybe sooner since the wouldn't need to do timing. And in the very worst case scenario where somehow magically all fansubbing died out (as in if they somehow put some hardcore laws both in the US and Japan and every other country and they are magically super enforced) - it's not like the old days, all that would mean is you'd have to pay whatever amount crunchy asks for - not sneak around trying to find a VHS tape from some really odd connections. |
TallonKarrde23Oct 1, 2012 2:37 AM
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| When the new law was passed in June, websites of the Japanese finance ministry, the Supreme Court and other public offices were defaced or brought down in apparent protest at the change by hackers. |
TrOjAnHoRsEOct 1, 2012 2:47 AM
| I think this is a good practice since Japanese people were always willing to supporting their own industry this is why we see Playstion out-sold Microsoft's Junk-box by far. :P So it is important they secure their own feebacks. I failed to see why Westerners shouldn't support the industry and believe everything should be taken for free either. Even though I used to be a laser-disk and VHS collector because I prefer high-quality classic OVAs and movies over modern craps. But somethings I still go to places like Crunchyroll to watch some trashy modern show for passing up free time. :) And that's the least you can support it. |
| Hopefully with TOR/newsgroups/IRC/private tracker torrents and who-knows-what the last days of fansubs are not here yet ^^ But it makes me a bit scared lol |
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| Japan is exercising its interwebz isolationist strategy again. |
| The most important things in life is the people that you care about |
Sukha said: TrOjAnHoRsE said: Plusme said: It will effect Japanese ppl with their own illegal streaming, but not people outside Japan. what about fansubs ? Fansubs need raw video from japan. With only one person in japan sending the raw by email to the fansubs you solve the problem, not a big deal Sukha said: TrOjAnHoRsE said: Plusme said: It will effect Japanese ppl with their own illegal streaming, but not people outside Japan. what about fansubs ? Fansubs need raw video from japan. With only one person in japan sending the raw by email to the fansubs you solve the problem, not a big deal I dont think it will help , they are monitoring fully! not only torrents. |
| it seems like it may not effect streaming sites like you tube . http://kotaku.com/5947785/strict-new-download-law-wont-kill-youtube-in-japan |
TrOjAnHoRsE said: Sukha said: TrOjAnHoRsE said: Plusme said: It will effect Japanese ppl with their own illegal streaming, but not people outside Japan. what about fansubs ? Fansubs need raw video from japan. With only one person in japan sending the raw by email to the fansubs you solve the problem, not a big deal Sukha said: TrOjAnHoRsE said: Plusme said: It will effect Japanese ppl with their own illegal streaming, but not people outside Japan. what about fansubs ? Fansubs need raw video from japan. With only one person in japan sending the raw by email to the fansubs you solve the problem, not a big deal I dont think it will help , they are monitoring fully! not only torrents. You do know you don't have to be in Japan to get Raws right? |
| It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die. |
| ahhh, something similar happened to this in korea. they fined/ arrested someone for downloading sth illegally thru torrents. i really dont think this will affect the overall state of things, though. :/ |
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| utorrent forced encryption, sorted. |
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onedaysnotice said: MidnightPride said: Meh there are ways around it not like it makes a real difference for those of us in America. That is until the japanese entertainment companies start extraditing us to japan for trial, like that european kid who was brought to america by the MPAA or whatever Well I hear japanese prison isn't as bad as american ones xD |
XR said: forced encryption in torrents doesn't work to hide you from anything, it's to try to bypass traffic shaping.utorrent forced encryption, sorted. |
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RoCSC-006C1BST said: XR said: forced encryption in torrents doesn't work to hide you from anything, it's to try to bypass traffic shaping.utorrent forced encryption, sorted. exactly, it makes it VERY difficult for your ISP to tell what kind of traffic utorrent is generating, ergo making it harder to see if you are dling torrents, and if you are what they are. The majority of people who download illegal torrents get found out by their ISP because of inflated p2p traffic because they dont force encryption. Cut that out, you can fly under the radar. I dont even torrent things i stream tbf. But even when i dl legit torrents i use it to stop ISPs bitching out. |
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| Guys ... this will only encourage to upload on foreign or private servers outside Japan. Also if you want to upload anonymously you can hide behind a proxy server |
darkstone said: Guys ... this will only encourage to upload on foreign or private servers outside Japan. Also if you want to upload anonymously you can hide behind a proxy server proxy serveris not encrypted, Maybe VPN is safe . |
| What? Uploading is like committing murder. |
TrOjAnHoRsE said: darkstone said: Guys ... this will only encourage to upload on foreign or private servers outside Japan. Also if you want to upload anonymously you can hide behind a proxy server proxy serveris not encrypted, Maybe VPN is safe . VPN is traceable by ISP If you upload on torrent websites via anonymous proxy I think is safer I worked as a ISP provider and uploading via proxy didn`t raised me any question mark when I was supervising traffic on my clients |
| There laws cant keep us otakuz down life finds a way and so does otakuz |
TrOjAnHoRsE said: http://torrentfreak.com/anti-downloading-law-hits-japan-up-to-2-years-in-prison-from-today-121001/ Download = 2 Years Prison + 2 million yen ($25,680) Fine. Upload = 10 Years Prison + 10 million yen ($128,300) Fine . What do you guys think ? I say maybe. I think the days of downloading episodes by their name are over.For example you won't be able to download naruto Shippuden episode 285, but you might be able to download a zip or rar titled ADVDK.zip and you'll need a password to open it or to even see its contents. But there is no telling how long that will last. |
| I think this gonna affect a lot of fansub |
onedaysnotice said: MidnightPride said: Meh there are ways around it not like it makes a real difference for those of us in America. That is until the japanese entertainment companies start extraditing us to japan for trial, like that european kid who was brought to america by the MPAA or whatever Never will happen unless it's a terrorism charge or espionage, downloading is not terrorism or espionage unless it's top secret stuff. |
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| Ship BDs or TVrip to another country -> seed from there. Solved. |
やがて気づく本当の気持ちは そして 人間が大好きでした |
| This wont change much. There's plenty of ways to get around this. All this does is show how ignorant the lawmakers in Japan are, as well as all the companies that support it. I'm more surprised that people in Japan allowed this to pass. Do they just accept anything that their government does? Explains why porn is still censored there =/ |
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Godplayer said: What? Uploading is like committing murder. If you uploaded and downloaded full anime tv shows, you would be no different than a serial killer. Seriously, this since SOPA this anti-piracy laws are getting out of hand. |
on Yvese said: This wont change much. There's plenty of ways to get around this. All this does is show how ignorant the lawmakers in Japan are, as well as all the companies that support it. I'm more surprised that people in Japan allowed this to pass. Do they just accept anything that their government does? Explains why porn is still censored there =/ From what i seen from the YOB, yeah it wouldn't change things much, when that passed we had 2011- the year of lolis, it was the best year to date for lolicons and heck the offending anime that caused it were deemed safe this year and we got a To Love Ru Darkness anime. The legistlation for the current bill in effect now has holes galore in it. Unfortunately Japan has an overall law abiding mentality and they think the government is doing what's best for them even though 80% of the time it's not otherwise there wouldn't be a perma-recession there. |
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| They are still going to get raws. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
Yvese said: Gaman.This wont change much. There's plenty of ways to get around this. All this does is show how ignorant the lawmakers in Japan are, as well as all the companies that support it. I'm more surprised that people in Japan allowed this to pass. Do they just accept anything that their government does? Explains why porn is still censored there =/ |
やがて気づく本当の気持ちは そして 人間が大好きでした |
| It does affect some MAD makers, the ripping ban can make them become criminals. |
Hoppy said: That's unfortunate.Unfortunately Japan has an overall law abiding mentality and they think the government is doing what's best for them even though 80% of the time it's not otherwise there wouldn't be a perma-recession there. People in Japan need to grow some balls and fight the establishment! I hope it's just the older generation that has that mentality so that when those geezers pass, Japan can finally enter the 21st century. shairn said: Just looked that up. Gaman. Those kinds of ideals are so archaic as a people. I mean it's great that they helped each other during the tsunami last year and there was little looting, but you can still do all that without bending over to the government. A line has to be drawn somewhere. That kind of attitude will bite them in the ass one day, if it hasn't already. |
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| It's kind of funny, because Nyaa.eu's front page still has plenty of raw anime. |
やがて気づく本当の気持ちは そして 人間が大好きでした |
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j0x said: That's SanCom for you.new article - http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2012/10/01/japan-bans-illegal-downloads-ripping this law is vague or that article im reading is vague lol, it says this |
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| Might scare some, but the majority will still stand. |
| Back to mIRC we go. |
リスト 。。 |
I think it's about time for us all to do what drinkbeer's signature is doing.  Eh, I actually could care less. We'll still get our manga easily. Anime stuff may just take longer since it has to be put out on the internet by the companies and such instead of random people doing it. Not that it will stop people from doing it though. Either way I don't think it will be affected to a huge extent. Although it will still do some damage, just not anything to drastic I believe, or rather hope. |
Touch me, you filthy casual~ |
onedaysnotice said: That is until the japanese entertainment companies start extraditing us to japan for trial, like that european kid who was brought to america by the MPAA or whatever Bwahahaha! America might do that, but Japan is not ballsy enough. No chance in hell! |
shairn said: It's kind of funny, because Nyaa.eu's front page still has plenty of raw anime. 213.152.180.195 Reverse-IP | Ping | DNS Lookup | Traceroute ASN: AS57172 IP Location: Netherlands - Zuid-holland - Alblasserdam - Global Layer B.v. Response Code: 200 Domain Status: Registered And Active Website So Nyaa is hosted in Holland at for that I don`t think that the Japan laws apply to them :) |
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