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ssjokg said: Otaking87 said: i want five Critical reasons way this is poular on MAL im not here to Argue Subjective things like Taste i wnat 5 Reason a Ctritc like me would rate this show Highly If you are a critic do it yourself. Besides even if people were to give 5 reasons its not like you would accept them so why bother asking, if you simply seeking to shoot down peoples reasons for liking this series don't bother, just as you won't change your mind, they won't change theirs; popularity won't change because you want it to. |
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Otaking87 said: TBH no it does not.InfiniteDestiny said: ssjokg said: Otaking87 said: i want five Critical reasons way this is poular on MAL im not here to Argue Subjective things like Taste i wnat 5 Reason a Ctritc like me would rate this show Highly If you are a critic do it yourself. Besides even if people were to give 5 reasons its not like you would accept them so why bother asking, if you simply seeking to shoot down peoples reasons for liking this series don't bother, just as you won't change your mind, they won't change theirs; popularity won't change because you want it to. no not this time friend im trying to see if this anime is worth its hype |
Otaking87 said: rederoin said: People still reply seriosly to Otaking87's posts? im trying to kick up a Logical debate of why people say this anime is not woth its hype and over rated A lot of people enjoyt it, thats why its so popular. Different tastes and all that stuff, Anime is not something that can be rated in a objective way. |
IntroverTurtle said: Can you link me a post where someone has said so?rederoin said: No because they say it only sucks because it's overrated, if there wasn't so much hype, people would just watch it for what it gives them, which they should. I don't really care about the anime, it's just everyday a new thread pops up full of people saying this anime is overrated. The same people every time getting into the same arguments, it's annoying that out of the 13,989 posts the SAO board has, most of them are probably people complaining about how overrated it is. I really just want people to calm down until the anime finishes, wait a couple weeks the score will probably change a little, then complain. Hey send a message to all the people on MAL to convince them that the show isn't a good, complain to them every day until they listen and rate it lower, IDGAF.IntroverTurtle said: Anybody who says that it's overrated and sucks, well they basically are stupid Anybody who has a different opinion is stupid? Thats a nice way of putting it. |
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| Smartest... In years?! What the fuck. Not that I'm not enjoying SAO but smartest?!? I just facepalmed through my fucking skull. |
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Karhu said: No, there are probably a couple in here, more in the other threads that got closed, there are too many threads about this topic like I said. I really don't feel like going through all of that crap. And besides if they don't say it straight out, people are making all these threads and posting angrily about how overrated it is, obviously it's affecting their scoring, and there probably are some that only hate it because of the hype, I don't remember which thread but someone had never even watched it but said that they hated it because of the hype.IntroverTurtle said: Can you link me a post where someone has said so?rederoin said: No because they say it only sucks because it's overrated, if there wasn't so much hype, people would just watch it for what it gives them, which they should. I don't really care about the anime, it's just everyday a new thread pops up full of people saying this anime is overrated. The same people every time getting into the same arguments, it's annoying that out of the 13,989 posts the SAO board has, most of them are probably people complaining about how overrated it is. I really just want people to calm down until the anime finishes, wait a couple weeks the score will probably change a little, then complain. Hey send a message to all the people on MAL to convince them that the show isn't a good, complain to them every day until they listen and rate it lower, IDGAF.IntroverTurtle said: Anybody who says that it's overrated and sucks, well they basically are stupid Anybody who has a different opinion is stupid? Thats a nice way of putting it. |
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KaiKatsuya said: Uberchu said: Anyone who hates SAO and thinks it's overrated should just move to 4chan. It's a lot better there for SAO haters since there are SAO troll threads almost daily. Plus they have actual taste (imo of course). That way, we won't have as many circlejerk threads like this one. >/a/ >good taste IMO, Everything /a/ likes is shit and everything /a/ hates is good, that's it. But I agree with you, these people should just move to 4chan .-. /a/ has better tastes than MAL at the moment. |
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| When SAO started off I tried desperately to like it. Didn't work. I don't understand why it's... so bad. The pacing is abysmal and the characters really haven't developed much. It feels too forced, almost like it's trying too hard. Why is this not rated 7.8-something like Guilty Crown is (last time I checked)? I'm even beginning to like GC more. At least GC had some good action. SAO is an anime that truly does NOT deserve its high rating. I can't think of any other rating I disagree with as much as this one. And by no means is this anime "smart." |
itsvero said: When SAO started off I tried desperately to like it. Didn't work. I don't understand why it's... so bad. The pacing is abysmal and the characters really haven't developed much. It feels too forced, almost like it's trying too hard. Why is this not rated 7.8-something like Guilty Crown is (last time I checked)? I'm even beginning to like GC more. At least GC had some good action. SAO is an anime that truly does NOT deserve its high rating. I can't think of any other rating I disagree with as much as this one. And by no means is this anime "smart." You know 7.8 is a very good score right? |
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BloodRequiem said: You know 7.8 is a very good score right? Most people have their scale set from 7-10, where 7 is bad and 10 is great. I personally stopped doing that once I saw how lame it was to have so little deviation but that's just me. And you mentioning Guilty Crown's score amuses me because it's actually rated higher than some of my favorite anime. |
BloodRequiem said: You know 7.8 is a very good score right? For MAL standards, no it's not. |
itsvero said: BloodRequiem said: You know 7.8 is a very good score right? For MAL standards, no it's not. Guilty crown should be 7-. It's terrible. |
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Uberchu said: BloodRequiem said: You know 7.8 is a very good score right? Most people have their scale set from 7-10, where 7 is bad and 10 is great. I personally stopped doing that once I saw how lame it was to have so little deviation but that's just me. And you mentioning Guilty Crown's score amuses me because it's actually rated higher than some of my favorite anime. None of that even matters and parts of it made up. Most people on make set their scale to 7-10? BS. Some people do that but even in the threads that were made talk about how one rates anime the people that used such a limited and high register were not in the majority. And you aren't a barometer or a litmus test. It's not remarkable that a show you didn't like has an average higher than shows you liked because unlike your claim about how most use a 7-10 scale the average scores is an actual way measure majority opinion. I am not surprised you are unable to recognize that. |
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Anime_Name said: None of that even matters and parts of it made up. Most people on make set their scale to 7-10? BS. Some people do that but even in the threads that were made talk about how one rates anime the people that used such a limited and high register were not in the majority. Vocal minority. A lot of people just use this site for the list feature and never participate. And the 7-10 curve thing is pretty true, otherwise how the hell does Dakara Boku wa H ga Dekinai, one of the shittiest anime ever, have most people rank it a 7? And you aren't a barometer or a litmus test. It's not remarkable that a show you didn't like has an average higher than shows you liked because unlike your claim about how most use a 7-10 scale the average scores is an actual way measure majority opinion. I am not surprised you are unable to recognize that. Ha ha, I was just using myself as an example. What I'm implying is that most people don't rate correctly. |
Vocal minority. A lot of people just use this site for the list feature and never participate. And the 7-10 curve thing is pretty true, otherwise how the hell does Dakara Boku wa H ga Dekinai, one of the shittiest anime ever, have most people rank it a 7? So how can you know how the silent ones rate? Crystal ball, Esp, satellite brain-reader, or is your claim completely unsubstantiated? BTW, you didn't say curve before and just because the ratings tend to be on the high side a lot doesn't mean that most people are restricting themselves to 7-10. Ha ha, I was just using myself as an example. What I'm implying is that most people don't rate correctly. Wow bro, so to rate correctly do people need to make sure their ratings match yours or something? |
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Paul said: Uberchu said: Paul said: It's because it's a MMO based anime. Not really. The whole story could work out in a standard fantasy setting without issue. SAO just throws in a few MMO references here and there and everyone gives it a 10. I mean the reason it's getting all these viewers is because of its MMO theme. Gaming right now is a huge thing in this era compared to the past, a anime about a MMO would get a great deal of views simply because of its theme. But you can remove the concept of being in a game from SAO, switch it to a simple fantasy setting and the show will still be the same. That's my biggest problem with the show. |
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| This is a rant topic about some guy's opinion on Kotaku. What sort of constructive feedback can be offered here other than saying "to each their own" or "different strokes for different folks", neither will be heeded. It is clear on the matter of anime ranting there can be only one right opinion, the one who whines the loudest. Now to the replies I made to Uberchu. Sorry but when people make claims like "most" do this and "everyone" does that I kind of want to validate those claims and find out how true they are. I have no problems if there is an actual consensus but I won't be lied to. But you can remove the concept of being in a game from SAO, switch it to a simple fantasy setting and the show will still be the same. That's my biggest problem with the show. Your biggest problem makes no sense. If you switched it to simply fantasy then it would no longer just be a handful of people stuck in a video game trying to clear it to get back to their normal lives all the while being subjected to the unique stipulation that in=game death = real life death. Changing it to straight fantasy would ruin the basic premise of the story. |
Anime_NameSep 28, 2012 11:00 PM
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Anime_Name said: So how can you know how the silent ones rate? Crystal ball, Esp, satellite brain-reader, or is your claim completely unsubstantiated? BTW, you didn't say curve before and just because the ratings tend to be on the high side a lot doesn't mean that most people are restricting themselves to 7-10. Because everyone in the thread hated Dakara Boku wa, H ga Dekina and gave it lower than a 7, yet most people still rated it a 7. Conclusion: vocal minority. One example is all I need. Wow bro, so to rate correctly do people need to make sure their ratings match yours or something? There is a correct way to rate. Use MAL rankings, not your own 7-10 curve. You know, where 5 is average. dontbegey said: You've been on the forums for a couple of months. You should know already that Anime_Name argues just for the sake of arguing and offers nothing constructive in regards to OP's topic. Why are you even replying to him is a mystery. Dunno bro, I need to kill time somehow. And 4chan threads take some time to pick up steam. |
dontbegey said: You've been on the forums for a couple of months. You should know already that Anime_Name argues just for the sake of arguing and offers nothing constructive in regards to OP's topic. Why are you even replying to him is a mystery. It's amusing at the very least. |
Because everyone in the thread hated Dakara Boku wa, H ga Dekina and gave it lower than a 7, yet most people still rated it a 7. Conclusion: vocal minority. One example is all I need. That example doesn't support the conclusion that most people only use 7-10. All of anime with average rating below 7 proves your claim is bull. All you are pointing out is that for some anime the rating average is about 7 because most of the ratings for that anime range from 7-10. There is a correct way to rate. Use MAL rankings, not your own 7-10 curve. You know, where 5 is average. Soapboxing? I don't know where you are getting your information from but just because a show is rated higher than shit you liked doesn't support any of the conclusions you've been trying to claim. |
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| ..... XD thats hilarious and at the same time tragic. SOA is a decent anime, its fun and the premise is very interesting, but smart? What have you been smoking? First of all its not a very original idea. SOA borrows heavily from the .hack series (especially sign) and despite it beign an even more desperate situation (people trapped in the game without a way to log off and dying if they are killed in game) The overall atmosphere of this anime is MUCH too light. Secondly the character design doesn't fit the tone of the anime. Why are they using moe style when this is supposed to be a psychological, adventure, action anime? In addition they added a lot of SoL and comedy elements to make it try to appeal to wider audience, but only works to diminish the atmosphere even further into a generic moe SoL show. Third, the anime lacks a an overarching plot and thus suffers from the episodic nature. Some anime use this to their advantage like say Mushishi. However SOA doesn't because many of the characters introduced are often forgotten. I wouldn't want to really see more of them anyway considering that they are very flat and predictable. Characters that are reoccurring are decent enough but aside from Asuna prove to be fairly useless overall. Theres also a weird harem thing going on with all the girls Kirito helps suddenly falling for him and like I mentioned before pointelss SoL stuff (cooking, girls in underwear, random tsundereness,) Which just doesn't make sense to me in this type of setting. Kirito as a character himself is really hard to sympathize with because throughout the series the series he seems almost invincible. Just trouncing every enemy he comes across leaving little to no room for development. There are some episodes where it does seem he actually suffers a little (when he loses his first guild and when he is defeated by Asuna's guild leader) but they don't really seem to change him in any way (aside from avoid guilds). Same problem with Asuna, considering they are our main characters there is very little reason for us to care about them. There are many unexplained things throughout the anime, such as how Kirito got the dualweilding skill, the latest episode with the npc god thing... They tried to explain it, but without much success, plus this idea was also in .hack//sign. They don't explain the pet system, crafting very little focus on duels. Obviously the main plot as well why the hell did the guy trap them there? Hopefully most of these will be answered, by the end of the show, but probably not. Did I mention I didn't like the visuals in this show? not just the stupid moe style, but the backrounds and battle scenes also feel lacking for me. There are some good ones, but for the most part it doesn't really compare to .hack//sign (which I'm constantly comparing it to in my head). SOA is still an entertaining show, but its getting way too much praise, considering what it essentially is: A moe .hack//sign ripoff. |
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Anime_Name said: That example doesn't support the conclusion that most people only use 7-10. All of anime with average rating below 7 proves your claim is bull. All you are pointing out is that for some anime the rating average is about 7 because most of the ratings for that anime range from 7-10. Jesus Christ, I'm not talking about averages, I'm talking about statistics. Check the stats sheet for Dakara Boku wa, H ga Dekinai. Most people rated it a 7. The anime was shit, yet people still rated it a 7. Soapboxing? I don't know where you are getting your information from but just because a show is rated higher than shit you liked doesn't support any of the conclusions you've been trying to claim. What do the ratings I give to the shows I watch have anything to do with this thread? |
Jesus Christ, I'm not talking about averages, I'm talking about statistics. Check the stats sheet for Dakara Boku wa, H ga Dekinai. Most people rated it a 7. The anime was shit, yet people still rated it a 7. Again, you aren't the measure of quality on this site. If you think an anime is shit doesn't mean the majority on this site will agree with you. 2k+ rated that show a 7(Good) and calling it shit doesn't mean 7 is the lowest those 2k+ people ever rate. What do the ratings I give to the shows I watch have anything to do with this thread? Dunno, you'd be the one that keeps bringing up what you rate or think of an anime in comparison to what ratings said anime got from other people. First of all its not a very original idea. SOA borrows heavily from the .hack series (especially sign) and despite in an even more desperate situatiion (people trapped in the game without a way to log off and dying if they are killed in game) The overall atmosphere of this anime is MUCH too light. Secondly the character design doesn't fit the tone of the anime. Why are they using moe style when this is supposed to be a psychologica, adventure, action anime? In addition they added a lot of SOL and comedy elements to make it try to appeal to wider audience, but only works to diminish the atmosphere even further into a generic moe SoL show. Secondly the anime lacks a an overarching plot and thus suffers from the episodic nature. Some anime use this to their advantage like say Mushishi. A show doesn't have to be original to be considered smart. What did they add? It's my understanding that the source material focused a lot on the relationship of Asuna and Kirito. Moe style isn't exclusive to cute girls doing cute things and actually SAO's style isn't all that moe. For the most part it seems pretty damn generic and tame in it's character designs. The show lacks an overarching plot? Funny it seems to have one on MAL, wiki, and ANN...maybe you don't know what a plot is. |
Anime_NameSep 28, 2012 11:35 PM
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| Kotaku also defends Mass Effect 3, their standards are worth shit. Well, in that case SAO seems to fit well with them. |
| Jojolion anime when? |
| I'm not sure why would a series require hundreds of pages of posts to explain WHY it isn't the best, nor good, nor why is it stupid. Shouldn't it be apparent on its own? It's like the haters are trying to force-sell their product (opinion) via endless advertising on the forums. And everyone knows good products (in this case opinions) don't require much promotion, simply because they're good and well accepted by everyone. Thus the "it's not the best, just the most discussed" sounds kinda like "it's not the best, but everyone wants to have it." |
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While I agree about the 'moe' art style and Kirito's harem, there is one point I'd like to state- earlier on in this thread we found out that SAO was actually published and written online in 2002, meaning the story was written beforehand and then distributed online. It only got the LN in 2009 but was around since 2002. It can't be THAT much of a .Hack//sign ripoff or a ripoff at all if they both started around the same time. Anyway, I agree with many if not most of your other points. Honestly, all the characters are so flat and predictable. I wish they gave Klein more screentime- honestly he's the only character that has some potential and appeal. Kirito and Asuna are too 'perfect' and thus become less appealing. |
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Tsundereppoi said: Thus the "it's not the best, just the most discussed" sounds kinda like "it's not the best, but everyone wants to have it." Most Discussed = Has the most Hype. Looking at your list, you have barely watched 2012 Anime. I believe soneone who has watched most, if not all, 2012 anime has the right to state that it's the 'Best'. Best is significantly different than favorite. BTW, I myself might not be entitled to judge the Best Anime of the Year as I have not watched them all either, although I did watch many. BTW, keep in mind fall 2012 still hasn't cone. There is a lot of pitential in that season. |
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Kurimu-chan said: While I agree about the 'moe' art style and Kirito's harem, there is one point I'd like to state- earlier on in this thread we found out that SAO was actually published and written online in 2002, meaning the story was written beforehand and then distributed online. It only got the LN in 2009 but was around since 2002. It can't be THAT much of a .Hack//sign ripoff or a ripoff at all if they both started around the same time. Thank you!! I was getting tired of pointing that out. As for bottosai-01's other points on unexplained things: Dual wielding:It will be explained in ep14. pet system, crafting, duels:You mean you dont know how those work from other MMO?If you mean that there isnt enough focus because the plot is to clear the game ,no the plot is to stay alive and escape.There have been enough battles till now.The problem is that they are too short. Yui:I dont see the problem Why did he trap them there?:Kayaba said so himself in ep1.He wanted to craete his own world.Yeah he was just a crazy genius.If you wanted a more plot twist reason I am sorry Harem:Only Lizbet loves him and she gave up.Sacchi and Silica looked at him as a big brother. |
ssjokg said: Kurimu-chan said: While I agree about the 'moe' art style and Kirito's harem, there is one point I'd like to state- earlier on in this thread we found out that SAO was actually published and written online in 2002, meaning the story was written beforehand and then distributed online. It only got the LN in 2009 but was around since 2002. It can't be THAT much of a .Hack//sign ripoff or a ripoff at all if they both started around the same time. Thank you!! I was getting tired of pointing that out. As for bottosai-01's other points on unexplained things: Dual wielding:It will be explained in ep14. pet system, crafting, duels:You mean you dont know how those work from other MMO?If you mean that there isnt enough focus because the plot is to clear the game ,no the plot is to stay alive and escape.There have been enough battles till now.The problem is that they are too short. Yui:I dont see the problem Why did he trap them there?:Kayaba said so himself in ep1.He wanted to craete his own world.Yeah he was just a crazy genius.If you wanted a more plot twist reason I am sorry Harem:Only Lizbet loves him and she gave up.Sacchi and Silica looked at him as a big brother. IMO for the harem aspect... For me, I see it in the point that any character who meets Kirito is immediately attached in one way or another- doen't necessarily mean to be a harem. Also notice how most are females. I mean, in the opening alone you see 5 females in that sequence, and, sure, you do see the males, but they don't play that much of a significant role so far. I really hope for more Klein in the future. I did find out from Novel Readers that he has some sort of arc, but I have no idea if that will be adapted. So far, it seems to me that Kirito is constantly swarmed by women of all ages that just seem so attracted to him (As a big brother, as a partner/guild member, as a romantic interest, as a father, as a husband, etc.). |
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Kurimu-chan said: ssjokg said: Kurimu-chan said: While I agree about the 'moe' art style and Kirito's harem, there is one point I'd like to state- earlier on in this thread we found out that SAO was actually published and written online in 2002, meaning the story was written beforehand and then distributed online. It only got the LN in 2009 but was around since 2002. It can't be THAT much of a .Hack//sign ripoff or a ripoff at all if they both started around the same time. Thank you!! I was getting tired of pointing that out. As for bottosai-01's other points on unexplained things: Dual wielding:It will be explained in ep14. pet system, crafting, duels:You mean you dont know how those work from other MMO?If you mean that there isnt enough focus because the plot is to clear the game ,no the plot is to stay alive and escape.There have been enough battles till now.The problem is that they are too short. Yui:I dont see the problem Why did he trap them there?:Kayaba said so himself in ep1.He wanted to craete his own world.Yeah he was just a crazy genius.If you wanted a more plot twist reason I am sorry Harem:Only Lizbet loves him and she gave up.Sacchi and Silica looked at him as a big brother. IMO for the harem aspect... For me, I see it in the point that any character who meets Kirito is immediately attached in one way or another- doen't necessarily mean to be a harem. Also notice how most are females. I mean, in the opening alone you see 5 females in that sequence, and, sure, you do see the males, but they don't play that much of a significant role so far. I really hope for more Klein in the future. I did find out from Novel Readers that he has some sort of arc, but I have no idea if that will be adapted. So far, it seems to me that Kirito is constantly swarmed by women of all ages that just seem so attracted to him (As a big brother, as a partner/guild member, as a romantic interest, as a father, as a husband, etc.). For Klein no we wont see the arc where he has more screen time, getting animated any time soon.First they have to adapt GGO(where Klein serves only as small info dump character)and then we will be able to see him in the Caliber arc. As for the harem:Nowadays harem equals too many girls sexually attracted to an -almost always-indecisive MC.SAO doesnt fit that genre at all. If SAO is a harem then the same goes for Gintama,Sket dance,Naruto,Fate zero,Steins;Gate etc |
ssjokg said: Kurimu-chan said: ssjokg said: Kurimu-chan said: While I agree about the 'moe' art style and Kirito's harem, there is one point I'd like to state- earlier on in this thread we found out that SAO was actually published and written online in 2002, meaning the story was written beforehand and then distributed online. It only got the LN in 2009 but was around since 2002. It can't be THAT much of a .Hack//sign ripoff or a ripoff at all if they both started around the same time. Thank you!! I was getting tired of pointing that out. As for bottosai-01's other points on unexplained things: Dual wielding:It will be explained in ep14. pet system, crafting, duels:You mean you dont know how those work from other MMO?If you mean that there isnt enough focus because the plot is to clear the game ,no the plot is to stay alive and escape.There have been enough battles till now.The problem is that they are too short. Yui:I dont see the problem Why did he trap them there?:Kayaba said so himself in ep1.He wanted to craete his own world.Yeah he was just a crazy genius.If you wanted a more plot twist reason I am sorry Harem:Only Lizbet loves him and she gave up.Sacchi and Silica looked at him as a big brother. IMO for the harem aspect... For me, I see it in the point that any character who meets Kirito is immediately attached in one way or another- doen't necessarily mean to be a harem. Also notice how most are females. I mean, in the opening alone you see 5 females in that sequence, and, sure, you do see the males, but they don't play that much of a significant role so far. I really hope for more Klein in the future. I did find out from Novel Readers that he has some sort of arc, but I have no idea if that will be adapted. So far, it seems to me that Kirito is constantly swarmed by women of all ages that just seem so attracted to him (As a big brother, as a partner/guild member, as a romantic interest, as a father, as a husband, etc.). For Klein no we wont see the arc where he has more screen time, getting animated any time soon.First they have to adapt GGO(where Klein serves only as small info dump character)and then we will be able to see him in the Caliber arc. As for the harem:Nowadays harem equals too many girls sexually attracted to an -almost always-indecisive MC.SAO doesnt fit that genre at all. If SAO is a harem then the same goes for Gintama,Sket dance,Naruto,Fate zero,Steins;Gate etc When did I EVER say it was a harem? I just meant that it has a lot of harem elements in it. I don't see why all the girls are attracted to Kirito in any way, be it romantically or in another matter. |
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HibiChouchou said: ssjokg said: SAO has harem as it sub-genre. If someone fails to see it, he/she must be a retard. Look at the author works before speak plz, AW also has harem elements in it. And also SAO. Not sure if you have read all of SAO chapter http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Sword_Art_Online:There_is_but_one_ultimate_way but technically, this chapter above is more than enough to tag SAO as one of a harem/or harem sub-genre anime. I have only read up to the 8th volume.Till there Kirito HAS ALREADY chosen Asuna.If later it really becomes a real harem then what was the point of the first 4 volumes? |
HibiChouchou said: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harem_%28genre%29 Dude, common mistake: Indecisive mc, chose to be with all the girls in harem anime is called "HAREM ENDING" Or, he can chose to be with the girl he likes most, in this case, Asuna, he choses Asuna "route" It doesn't matter if he likes or has feeling for only 1 girl. 3 girls and above like him is enough to be called harem/harem sub-genre. Clannad the first season is considered harem anime cause Tomoya raised flags to all the girls he encountered. But finally he stayed with Nagisa. In the end I don't really care that much whether SAO is even classified as a harem- All I see is badass Kirito surrounded by women in every episode. And if you try to deny that, well, then, you're not watching properly (: |
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Kurimu-chan said: HibiChouchou said: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harem_%28genre%29 Dude, common mistake: Indecisive mc, chose to be with all the girls in harem anime is called "HAREM ENDING" Or, he can chose to be with the girl he likes most, in this case, Asuna, he choses Asuna "route" It doesn't matter if he likes or has feeling for only 1 girl. 3 girls and above like him is enough to be called harem/harem sub-genre. Clannad the first season is considered harem anime cause Tomoya raised flags to all the girls he encountered. But finally he stayed with Nagisa. In the end I don't really care that much whether SAO is even classified as a harem- All I see is badass Kirito surrounded by women in every episode. And if you try to deny that, well, then, you're not watching properly (: (Episode 9) Cause Klein and co are a bunch of women right? :) |
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Obstinate said: Kurimu-chan said: HibiChouchou said: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harem_%28genre%29 Dude, common mistake: Indecisive mc, chose to be with all the girls in harem anime is called "HAREM ENDING" Or, he can chose to be with the girl he likes most, in this case, Asuna, he choses Asuna "route" It doesn't matter if he likes or has feeling for only 1 girl. 3 girls and above like him is enough to be called harem/harem sub-genre. Clannad the first season is considered harem anime cause Tomoya raised flags to all the girls he encountered. But finally he stayed with Nagisa. In the end I don't really care that much whether SAO is even classified as a harem- All I see is badass Kirito surrounded by women in every episode. And if you try to deny that, well, then, you're not watching properly (: (Episode 9) Cause Klein and co are a bunch of women right? Most of the episodes, man, most of the episodes (: |
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HibiChouchou said: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harem_%28genre%29 Dude, common mistake: Indecisive mc, chose to be with all the girls in harem anime is called "HAREM ENDING" Or, he can chose to be with the girl he likes most, in this case, Asuna, he choses Asuna "route" It doesn't matter if he likes or has feeling for only 1 girl. 3 girls and above like him is enough to be called harem/harem sub-genre. Clannad the first season is considered harem anime cause Tomoya raised flags to all the girls he encountered. But finally he stayed with Nagisa. "The most distinguishable trait is arguably the group of girls who accompany, and in some instances cohabitate with the boy, and while intimacy is just about customary, it is never necessary; when it is present, there must be a minimum of three girls who express it, otherwise two is a love triangle" We barely had two love triangles in SAO(till volume 8).Both times those girls gave up.I dont know what happens after volume 8 but till then Silica,Lizbet,Shino,Suguha either gave up or were never shown to have romantic feelings for Kirito. If an anime is labeled as a harem just because the MC is surrounded by females for whatever reason except trying to win him over then a lot of anime should be called harems. Maybe I will change my mind when I resume reading SAO but till now it isnt a harem. Kurimu-chan said: In the end I don't really care that much whether SAO is even classified as a harem- All I see is badass Kirito surrounded by women in every episode. And if you try to deny that, well, then, you're not watching properly (: He is surrounded by women in every episode and every volume of the LN. |
ssjokg said: HibiChouchou said: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harem_%28genre%29 Dude, common mistake: Indecisive mc, chose to be with all the girls in harem anime is called "HAREM ENDING" Or, he can chose to be with the girl he likes most, in this case, Asuna, he choses Asuna "route" It doesn't matter if he likes or has feeling for only 1 girl. 3 girls and above like him is enough to be called harem/harem sub-genre. Clannad the first season is considered harem anime cause Tomoya raised flags to all the girls he encountered. But finally he stayed with Nagisa. "The most distinguishable trait is arguably the group of girls who accompany, and in some instances cohabitate with the boy, and while intimacy is just about customary, it is never necessary; when it is present, there must be a minimum of three girls who express it, otherwise two is a love triangle" We barely had two love triangles in SAO(till volume 8).Both times those girls gave up.I dont know what happens after volume 8 but till then Silica,Lizbet,Shino,Suguha either gave up or were never shown to have romantic feelings for Kirito. If an anime is labeled as a harem just because the MC is surrounded by females for whatever reason except trying to win him over then a lot of anime should be called harems. Maybe I will change my mind when I resume reading SAO but till now it isnt a harem. Kurimu-chan said: In the end I don't really care that much whether SAO is even classified as a harem- All I see is badass Kirito surrounded by women in every episode. And if you try to deny that, well, then, you're not watching properly (: He is surrounded by women in every episode and every volume of the LN. Yes, I know. I am not necessarily saying that SAO is a harem- I know it's not. I'm just saying that it's kind of-how to say it in a nice way-annoying how he has girls around him every episode. It's starting to get old. |
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