| Probably pretty well... |
| It's very reflective, but as always with TV, extremes are taking to the extreme |
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| Depends on the anime obviously, but yeah, if you're watching say, a slice of life anime, then ofc it is reflective of their daily culture and ordinary lifestyle |
| Yes, girls do nothing but sip tea and eat cake in their music clubs. |
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| well pretty close mostly in school plot settings... they do have weird clubs, mini skirts errr, act cute? hmm... long school days, the golden week, pretty much nearly everything if we consider school... on religion yep... somehow why, they have incorporated christian figures EG angels and demons but they mostly believe more on shitoism and buddhism so it still reflects their religion. on normal life they are overly generous at the same time they are fearsome when angry... well if i narrate everything it would take me a page or two so i could say as a whole, anime reflects japanese life at about 76- 80% accuracy. |
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| I would actually say 77.532% accuracy. |
TheCommonSense said: well pretty close mostly in school plot settings... they do have weird clubs, mini skirts errr, act cute? . There won't be any major differences to how girls in Japan account to the US/EU. |
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NicoleB said: TheCommonSense said: well pretty close mostly in school plot settings... they do have weird clubs, mini skirts errr, act cute? . There won't be any major differences to how girls in Japan account to the US/EU. well there is major difference... try living in japan for like 5 years close to a school and you will notice how japan school culture differs greatly in US/EU counterpart. they may look the same but NOPE... dig deeper... there's more in the japanese (school) culture that is not written and not shown in anime... my judgement is pretty much about the outer information since the topic ask me how close the anime shows the japanese culture. living in japan for 3 and a half years already and being observant everyday gave me the idea of the real japanese life so if i am asked to write about it in details, one could get that anime is actually not only the same with "what we know" japanese culture based on anime but there's more that we could say: "its always new and different in japan"... |
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Neane1993 said: How well do American Cartoons reflect American Culture? If we consider the education system, it's pretty well |
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| That's a reaaally simplified question, though. It is obviously dependent upon the genre of anime and those who produced it, as well as the general intended audience; same for most American shows, I'd say. Probably the comedies represent modern Japanese pop/meme/media culture, older classics represent the original driving force behind media companies-- leaving a bigger impact-- and historical/slice-of-lice shows might represent the more cultural/emotional aspect of Japan. My opinion, anyways. |
Legendre said: I would actually say 77.532% accuracy. sounds legit. |
juken16 said: please go into detail i would really like to know what japanese school life and family life would be like lol... can i spam then? sorry even i can, i cant go into details because i dont have the right to do so... i am not JAPANESE... all i can say is, japanese family culture is the perfect model for a happy family... but it will be need to be paired with having your religion as buddhism or shintoism... and you should already know why. well i will say something on what trait i like in a japanese family... japanese families are very generous... you see scenes in anime where an anime chara got soaked in the rain and cant find cover he knocks on a house and begs to stay for awhile until the rains is out and the family lets him in? its true... i experienced this myself (even got myself a tea and free dinner) and this generous culture becomes more prominent in rural areas as you go away from tokyo (since it is technically influenced by western culturel). i dont see this kind of generosity in EU/US... most often you get shoo'd away and they will tell that you are a fool a stupid for forgetting your umbrella... worst if you insist they would point a gun at you... SAD REALITY. but well there of course there are some who wont let you in... but my experience tells me, in majority, japanese are very generous... |
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TheCommonSense said: juken16 said: please go into detail i would really like to know what japanese school life and family life would be like lol... can i spam then? sorry even i can, i cant go into details because i dont have the right to do so... i am not JAPANESE... all i can say is, japanese family culture is the perfect model for a happy family... but it will be need to be paired with having your religion as buddhism or shintoism... and you should already know why. well i will say something on what trait i like in a japanese family... japanese families are very generous... you see scenes in anime where an anime chara got soaked in the rain and cant find cover he knocks on a house and begs to stay for awhile until the rains is out and the family lets him in? its true... i experienced this myself (even got myself a tea and free dinner) and this generous culture becomes more prominent in rural areas as you go away from tokyo (since it is technically influenced by western culturel). i dont see this kind of generosity in EU/US... most often you get shoo'd away and they will tell that you are a fool a stupid for forgetting your umbrella... worst if you insist they would point a gun at you... SAD REALITY. but well there of course there are some who wont let you in... but my experience tells me, in majority, japanese are very generous... And what is your oppinion on which culture is better: western or Japanese(Asian)? |
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TK8 said: And what is your oppinion on which culture is better: western or Japanese(Asian)? no one is better than the other...but asian has richer culture than west. and also in terms of virtues asian dominates even in small things there's a cat recently died on the street western: trash it... asian (japanese): let's bury and pray for it... |
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TheCommonSense said: TK8 said: And what is your oppinion on which culture is better: western or Japanese(Asian)? no one is better than the other...but asian has richer culture than west. and also in terms of virtues asian dominates even in small things there's a cat recently died on the street western: trash it... asian (japanese): let's bury and pray for it... To me it sounds like the asian culture dominates in everything, or is there something the western culture dominates in? |
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juken16 said: okay within its self anime already reflects Japanese culture but i am asking does it reflect daily culture, ordinary life. About as well as The Simpson's reflects American culture. That of course is nothing to be proud of. |
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TheCommonSense said: no one is better than the other...but asian has richer culture than west. and also in terms of virtues asian dominates even in small things. You gave examples for virtuosity but you failed to explain how Asian culture is richer than Western, no one's going to take that statement seriously if you don't back it up. |
| "no one is better than the other...but asian has richer culture than west. and also in terms of virtues asian dominates even in small things" I was replying to this statement, which seems to contradict itself and imply that the 'asian' culture does almost everything better than the 'western' culture. |
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JonyJC said: TheCommonSense said: no one is better than the other...but asian has richer culture than west. and also in terms of virtues asian dominates even in small things. You gave examples for virtuosity but you failed to explain how Asian culture is richer than Western, no one's going to take that statement seriously if you don't back it up. a rich existing variety of tradition and norms in an asian country is enough to explain the how... culture defines history and history defines culture... richer history means richer culture |
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| You're doing the same as before what do we call this in philosophy Circular reasoning? You're saying it's rich because it's rich, prominent asian countries were undeveloped shitholes stuck in the iron ages before western influence. |
JonyJC said: You're doing the same as before what do we call this in philosophy Circular reasoning? You're saying it's rich because it's rich, prominent asian countries were undeveloped shitholes stuck in the iron ages before western influence. so we have here a western extremist... i just answered your query... and those shitholes you called will still develop even without western influence... your west will not know calculator if it werent because of abacus... heh... were riding the same boat mr.... anyway never did i said asian are superioral and better... all i say is they are richer in culture and virtues but our fine fellow here got mind fuck and now calling asian a shithole. #gotfuckedbytruth ? |
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TK8 said: "no one is better than the other...but asian has richer culture than west. and also in terms of virtues asian dominates even in small things" I was replying to this statement, which seems to contradict itself and imply that the 'asian' culture does almost everything better than the 'western' culture. His name does not fit his comments... |
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| duh... common sense also implies to personal knowledge and experience. well why not we continue this on our profile wall because were getting off the topic. its past 10 pm so i might attend to your arguments tomorrow. |
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TheCommonSense said: so we have here a western extremist... I'm not a western extremist I respect the attitude of Asian people and weep for Korea which is embracing western multicultural views, their country will turn to shit in a couple few of decades if they keep going. TheCommonSense said: i just answered your query... and those shitholes you called will still develop even without western influence... You didn't, you said it was because it was, you justified better ethics with the example of people giving shelter to strangers in the rain but you didn't do the same for culture. And you can't prove that that's the same as saying Africans would have invented the wheel if Westerners didn't go there, you can't prove it, Japan had had firearms since the 13th century and only remembered to use those in the 1800s TheCommonSense said: your west will not know calculator if it werent because of abacus... heh... were riding the same boat mr.... And? Don't tell me there was no cultural exchange between China, Japan and Korea. You saying the abacus was Asian? Not doubting you but the earliest documentation of it in china dates to the 2nd century BC while it has existed for way longer than that. TheCommonSense said: anyway never did i said asian are superioral and better... all i say is they are richer in culture and virtues but our fine fellow here got mind fuck and now calling asian a shithole. The value of a civilization is seen on it's culture, by saying the culture is richer therefor superior you're arguing that the Asian civilizations were superior. Also I called Asia a bigger shithole than the West was a 100 year ago not today. |
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JonyJC said: And you can't prove that that's the same as saying Africans would have invented the wheel if Westerners didn't go there, you can't prove it, Japan had had firearms since the 13th century and only remembered to use those in the 1800s Also, at that time the 13th century handcanons wasn't really used much at all because it was so shitty. It was only went the Portuguese brought their arquebus rifles to Japan did Japanese armies begin fielding huge amounts of rifleman. And they didn't forget to use it, in the 16th and 17th Century, they used the shit outta those guns. Then they sealed all those up till the Americans came. |
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TheCommonSense said: Ignoring whatever JonyJC is being offensive to you for, you still have yet to defend your statement. Sure, it's your opinion but if you can't back up your opinion it just makes you look silly.JonyJC said: TheCommonSense said: no one is better than the other...but asian has richer culture than west. and also in terms of virtues asian dominates even in small things. You gave examples for virtuosity but you failed to explain how Asian culture is richer than Western, no one's going to take that statement seriously if you don't back it up. a rich existing variety of tradition and norms in an asian country is enough to explain the how... culture defines history and history defines culture... richer history means richer culture And it's pretty darn hard to back it up. First you need to know a great deal of both cultures (and I think it's pretty silly to dumb down everything to just "Asian cultures" and "Western cultures".) and then draw comparisons on each. I'm pretty sure historians would not make such a statement because it seem to imply one culture is superior than another. We can only conclude that different cultures have a rich background to it, never going as far as saying one has a richer one than another, especially when you're comparing a GROUP of different cultures to another group. Way too many variables. |
Legendre said: I would actually say 77.532% accuracy. I will have to disagree, after my meticulous calculations I have determined that anime has a 73.622% correlation to Japanese life. I would like you to back up your ridiculous percentage with some evidence! |
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Armiga21 said: i cant comment on the french shows because i never saw them and dont know much about french culture... but the american shows do show american cultureIt's fairly accurate depending on what you're watching. One of my favorite things abou anime is the fact it has such deep culture rooted into it. Just watch Detective Conan and you'll see tons of beautiful architecture, landmarks, various notable cities and prefectures, and history. The episodes they go to Osaka or Kyoto is especially noteworthy. Behavior-wise it can be pretty good on the details as well, such as the importance of school clubs, dining habits, house habits, school festivals, daimonji burning festivals, and so forth. You don't really see that in western animation. You watch Totally Spies or Code Lyoko and you don't see French culture, history, or architecture in those shows. Nor do you see American culture, history, or architecture in shows like Simpsons, Fairly Odd Parents, or whatever. I think in general Japan tends to have much more culture in general than the west, which stems from them being a very isolated and unified population. what is your definition of culture anyway? culture is mostly lifestyle. its the food people eat, the clothes they wear, their religion, their attitudes towards things, their music, their art, their history, their celebrities, their movies and tv shows the simpsons do show american culture, a lot of it is pop culture, but it does show a lot of other things too. lisa and her jazz music or vegetarianism. nuclear power, school life, religious fanatics (flanders family), bullies, senseless violent children's cartoons, fast food, child hood obesity, marriage and divorce, christmas and halloween specials, and all the episodes where the family travels abroad, american views of other countries, barbie dolls, etc etc etc. south park does a lot of social commentary on current events in the usa and that too shows part of its culture, its evolving culture (because culture isn't static). south park has done things on the euthanasia debate, the oil spill, broadway musicals, lovecraft, homosexuality, religion, gaming, and yeah, a ton of other shit that would make this list too long and im sure things like andy warhol, mount rushmore, the grand canyon, the mona lisa, and other western cultural things gets mentioned in cartoons all the time. i know ive seen it. and saying japan or asia has more culture than the west is just stupid because like i said, culture is lifestyle and history. having lived in europe and canada i can tell you that its simply not true. the cultures between greece and canada are extremely different, as different as the culture between japan and the united states. canada is very close to the united states in culture, but where i live specifically there is a lot of ojibwe (native american) influence. at school people can learn ojibwe if they want instead of french (you have to take one or the other in high school) and in university in teacher's college (what I'm doing) there is a lot of emphasis on learning about native american (native american culture is way different than average white american culture) ways of teaching and philosophy that don't get taught in other parts of canada. that's part of the culture of the area. a certain amount of things broadcasted have to be canadian in order to protect the canadian culture. greece is very different, because unlike canada and the us, which is made up of many different cultures from all over the world, greece is mainly greek (duh). in greece the religion is a form of christianity, but its different from catholicism and protestantism thats popular in canada. the food is extremely different. we have our own holidays and traditions and traditional music (rebetika and laika). cafes, ouzorias, and tavernas are also prominent parts of greek culture... in canada people eat early, in greece dinner isn't until like... 10 at night and lasts for hours. people close their shops at mid day for a few hours and sleep, that doesn't happen in canada. its a difference of culture. and greeks have a rich history too, like the ancient mythology, and the ancient philosophers. greece has amazing ancient sites and stuff, like the acropolis... i lived in sparti, where the famous leonidas is from. so yeah, saying one culture is richer than another is just stupid. culture is lifestyle. america and canada are newer countries compared to greece and japan, but they still have their own cultures. american holidays like christmas, halloween, valentines day, are part of their culture and are celebrated differently. birthdays are big celebrations in america, but in greece, name days are more important (most greeks have a name that is associated with some greek orthodox saint, which has their own feast day, which is that person's name day) |
Tachii said: Ignoring whatever JonyJC is being offensive to you for, you still have yet to defend your statement. Sure, it's your opinion but if you can't back up your opinion it just makes you look silly. If I come of as aggressive it's because he spewed bollocks after I took the the time to explain why his argument sucked. Anyway this discussion is boring, I feel no love for the current western civilization and have no will to defend it. Over and out. |
Confucius said: Neane1993 said: How well do American Cartoons reflect American Culture? If we consider the education system, it's pretty well And we have liftoff. |
| Depends on what you think culture IS and what is best at getting it. Japan is fairly xenophobic, so does that mean their culture is more 'pure'. The US is a melting pot of many peoples, so does that mean they are more cultured from variety. And in the end, it is likely that anime is still extremely exaggerated just like American cartoons. |
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| I feel bad whenever I see a young character in an anime call an old stranger "grandfather" and help him cross the street. A lot of young people in the USA treat the elderly like trash and call them "old geezers" and other insults. I'm afraid of growing old in that kind of culture. |
mezzoguitar said: I feel bad whenever I see a young character in an anime call an old stranger "grandfather" and help him cross the street. A lot of young people in the USA treat the elderly like trash and call them "old geezers" and other insults. I'm afraid of growing old in that kind of culture. Don't worry, I'll help you cross that street. Paraph said: To say that Japanese culture is more "cultural" than others shows that you do not understand the definition of culture well enough to appreciate the complexity. You cannot weigh the depth of a culture to another, it's like trying to classify what type of person is smart. Is it the man who has the ability to hunt or the man who has the ability to ace an exam? which one is smarter? is there only one true "smart" quality, that is above the other qualities? You're initial point is very reasonable. It's also very reasonable to mention that Japanese animation is Japan's highlight when it comes to art, more so than say film. Thus, it's only natural that more culture would be represented in their animations than say America's animations, whose highlight is seen more in their films (modern films is debatable though...) However, I think you can in fact judge an creator by his work, just like how you can judge an artist by his work of art. You are right in saying that you cannot "rightfully" judge his work, but you can indeed judge it. Paraph said: Anime is fiction, and fiction is not real. fiction is not a representative of our reality, even if an artist tries to capture a "type" of person inspired by their daily life (as all good work is) the result is still fiction. I think this is a serious mistake. Fiction is a representation of reality. If it wasn't we wouldn't be able to understand any of it or gain any kind of feeling from it whatsoever. Take Neon Genesis Evangelion for example, a fictional piece of work. Can you dare say that the director/writer of NGE did not reflect any of his views of reailty within his work of art? Paraph said: Last push- do not use fiction to understand reality. Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of many artists' works? I find this statement rather insulting to them. |
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Confucius said: BURNNeane1993 said: How well do American Cartoons reflect American Culture? If we consider the education system, it's pretty well |
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| lol not well. In anime women are mad passive, but most of the people I know are trolls like senjougahara from bakemonogatari japanese people like sports and clubs for sure tho. also japanese people are racist as hell. This is probably the first thing that shocks foreigners japanese people are nice to each other but they hate foreigners lol |
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