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Mar 29, 2012 8:12 PM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Mashiro calls MIho and tells her that their dream doesn't considered as being fulfilled until he hears Miho voicing on naho when the anime starts airing. and he said he went go and see her right when he hears the voice of miho on naho. takagi is trying to come up with the best wedding gift for mashiro.
Mar 31, 2012 1:02 AM
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I don't see why they want to end it so bad. I mean the editorial department let them end Tanto when they shouldn't have. they let them switch PCP and start Reversi. why should t hey get to end Reversi when it's doing well? why would they want to?

if they are getting married he'll kinda have to continue his work? they have nothing planned after Reversi?

they have no back up plan and it just seems they want their own way and are screwing over editorial AGAIN.
Mar 31, 2012 1:09 AM
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Well, they still have PCP, and I think if Reversi manages to be better than Zombie Gun the editorial department will let them do another weekly manga...
Mar 31, 2012 3:09 AM
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They'll probably end the manga when they want to, and then be thrown away for being too insubordinate.
I believe the manga will end with them deciding to find somewhere else where they can publish their next manga, Eiji being beaten in comic sales AND votes, and Hattori somehow following them to their new destination.
Mar 31, 2012 4:04 AM
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kamigawa said:
They'll probably end the manga when they want to, and then be thrown away for being too insubordinate.
I believe the manga will end with them deciding to find somewhere else where they can publish their next manga, Eiji being beaten in comic sales AND votes, and Hattori somehow following them to their new destination.


Since Bakuman is published in Jump itself, I find that highly unlikely.. :) I agree tt itt's really not right for Ashirogi Muto to just walk all over the decisions of the editorial dept like that. But think about the readers! This is the best time to end Reversi and Bakuman! I don't think there's anything else left to go on since Mashiro's pretty much accomplished his life goal now. (at such a young age, no less!)
Mar 31, 2012 4:18 AM
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Nice chapter. I don't think they'll end the manga yet. There still alot more they can add to as well as the other characters. I really hope Miho and Mashiro get married and that they don't make a last minute change by the anime staff.
Mar 31, 2012 4:35 AM
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I don't see why they want to end it so bad. I mean the editorial department let them end Tanto when they shouldn't have. they let them switch PCP and start Reversi. why should t hey get to end Reversi when it's doing well? why would they want to?


Because meaningless stretching up of a manga usually hurts the story, especially if like Reversi it is not a story that should be too long (they discussed it many chapters ago if I remember right). Publishers care mostly about money which is why they like stretching up the stories that sell well while the story-tellers give the story quality more importance. The authors of Bakuman itself were not pleased by having to make part 2 of Death Note, as shown by events surrounding Reversi.

I believe the manga will end with them deciding to find somewhere else where they can publish their next manga


Will never happen. The authors of Bakuman work for WSJ and making Bakuman's characters leave WSJ would not give peopel a message WSJ would like.
Mar 31, 2012 5:11 AM
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Hmm.. somehow i kinda get the feeling that their anime is going to get cancelled because they didn't want to extend it further and Mashiro + Azuki might not get married after all. ( ̄m ̄)
Mar 31, 2012 6:29 AM
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^ exactly my concern
I'm afraid the company that's making the anime will be like "Oh sorry but since the series is ending we don't think we'll make an anime anymore" >.<
Mar 31, 2012 6:40 AM

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I would raid the author's house if he ever did a "twist" like that. I rather it be something like they managed to end it, see the august sales before the anime airs and make his sales high. Takagi thinks up of the most awesomest things and I want to see them fulfilled at least.

Credit to WingZero619 from Animesuki!!
Mar 31, 2012 6:44 AM

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mystik said:
I don't see why they want to end it so bad. I mean the editorial department let them end Tanto when they shouldn't have. they let them switch PCP and start Reversi. why should t hey get to end Reversi when it's doing well? why would they want to?

if they are getting married he'll kinda have to continue his work? they have nothing planned after Reversi?

they have no back up plan and it just seems they want their own way and are screwing over editorial AGAIN.


Because extending the story of a Manga will just ruin it's image. No matter how good the start, it still depends on the rest of the chapters. It's like Kagami no kuni no Harisugawa. They decided to end that manga at chapter 29 and a lot of people are saying it sucks just because the last chapter is a fanservice chapter. The start until the climax was good though and a lot of people loved it. But they can't extend the story of the Manga because the goal has already been reached. Im not really good at explaining things but that's that.

Anyway I hope the Anime will not get canceled :( Epic line by takagi.
Mar 31, 2012 7:19 AM

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This is also kinda like retelling the story that happened with Death note after Light defeated L. they resumed it after 2-3 weeks.
Mar 31, 2012 7:53 AM

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They have to wait till september~
Good chapter.
Mar 31, 2012 7:59 AM
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Even though they don't say much about Reversi and how it is developed, I wouldn't like to end, it is true what the Chief Editor said, if the author is good enough, he would continue the series without affecting the quality. I would like to know more about Takagi and his abilities to write, and I think they are too selfish, they have done many selfish actions and is their responsibilities to obey.
Mar 31, 2012 8:09 AM
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mystik said:
I don't see why they want to end it so bad. I mean the editorial department let them end Tanto when they shouldn't have. they let them switch PCP and start Reversi. why should t hey get to end Reversi when it's doing well? why would they want to?

if they are getting married he'll kinda have to continue his work? they have nothing planned after Reversi?

they have no back up plan and it just seems they want their own way and are screwing over editorial AGAIN.


Hey you watched Bleach right (and probably Naruto as well) ... didn't you hate it when the show seems to have lost its touch when they added in filler episodes to fill up a gap or introduce new stupid enemies or arcs to make it last longer, thats basically what the editorial department wants Takagi to do with Reversi. He wants it to end because the series in this way is how he visioned it and created it, doing something outside of what he originally planned would just ruins its flow. As one who actually watches and reads manga you should know that.

They still have PCP ongoing and Takagi is a mastermind ... I wouldn't think him to end it like this and not have a new series planned, it may not be displayed right now because he wants to focus on making his best friends wedding a success and go above and beyond as to make there series #1 with its finale before the wedding.
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Hey you watched Bleach right (and probably Naruto as well) ... didn't you hate it when the show seems to have lost its touch when they added in filler episodes to fill up a gap or introduce new stupid enemies or arcs to make it last longer, thats basically what the editorial department wants Takagi to do with Reversi. He wants it to end because the series in this way is how he visioned it and created it, doing something outside of what he originally planned would just ruins its flow. As one who actually watches and reads manga you should know that.

They still have PCP ongoing and Takagi is a mastermind ... I wouldn't think him to end it like this and not have a new series planned, it may not be displayed right now because he wants to focus on making his best friends wedding a success and go above and beyond as to make there series #1 with its finale before the wedding.


I absolutely agree with this. Trying to make series longer is like killing its positive aspects. Ashirogi will have to create something even better then Reversi but they should be able to do this. Takagi will come up with ending witch will blow Zombie Gun away :) I want more of Mashiro&Azuki and their impossibly pure love :D
Mar 31, 2012 9:25 AM

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Keep in mind that Hattori didn't propose to lengthen Reversi, he proposed a Second Part (Kinda like what Medaka Box is possibly doing? Death Note did it too and there is the legacy of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure where each part focusses on a different main character, do a bit of research about it).

I'd like Reversi to have a second part so that the anime won't get cancelled and stop the marriage, but in the end, it's the authors' decision to decide when their work ends.
Mar 31, 2012 9:29 AM

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I vote Hattori for the president. He's the best, lol.
Mar 31, 2012 10:58 AM

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This doesn't feel like it will end up well for them. They pissed of the chief editor once again and I worry their anime will get canceled since they want to end their manga. IMO they should lengthen Reversi so that it ends just when anime starts (in September). That would make more sense and readers would have Reversi in fresh memory. I don't really think this has anything to do with Death Note, it may be similiar but I doubt they are trying to blame editorial department for forcefully lengthening their series. DN was far from over (or maybe I don't get what the 2nd part is XD) when the 1st pat ended. While Reversi will be completely over at that point with no way of other plot development.

For some reason I found that Takagi looked cooler than usually, I'm not sure if the artist changed his style or my eyes are getting better or what. Am I the only one to think this?
Mar 31, 2012 10:58 AM

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wonder if Bakuman will end after they get married lol
Mar 31, 2012 11:17 AM

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Oh crap Death Note deja vu........

Wouldn't it be funny if the same thing happened to Death note IRL, hence M and N? M and N could technically be counted as a Part 2........

Except they DIDN'T end it with L. Dammit.
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Mar 31, 2012 12:27 PM

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As an anime fan, I think it's a better decision if the manga ends before the anime and that the anime follow the manga's storyline but well....

I'm a little worried that it won't end as they want it... :S
Mar 31, 2012 12:46 PM

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wonder if Bakuman will end after they get married lol


if they haven't beaten eiji by then, then no.
Mar 31, 2012 1:46 PM

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I want to see Miho and Mashiro happy but I don't want Bakuman to end. :\
Mar 31, 2012 5:43 PM

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I personally think that they'll actually cut the anime if the manga finishes in July. It'll come between getting married or finishing the manga the way they want to. It's not even such a bad thing if they made a Part 2. Tagaki could at least come up with 20 chapters even if wasn't as good, him and Mashiro can start focusing on their next weekly manga anyway. Let's face it they can't beat Eiji yet
Mar 31, 2012 7:41 PM

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I had my worries for a moment, but now that I think about it, it's highly unlikely that the anime will get canceled if they end the manga. They've generated an enormous amount of publicity by that public audition. To cancel the anime now, it would be a publicity suicide. They may postpone it a bit, change the form (from prime-time to late-night, for example), or do some other alterations, but it's the point of no return - they have to produce the anime in one way or another, and have Azuki play the role of Naho in it.

So, I think the Azuki/Mashiro marriage is pretty much official now.

But it still interests me how will they handle the finale. I don't like the idea of not letting the authors end, so I'm all for them doing it their way. As for what happens next - I don't really know.

We all know that:
  • they won't quit drawing manga, because they made so many promises about that
  • they won't leave Shueisha, because the real-life WSJ wouldn't like publishing thing like that
  • the editorial department won't like to end the manga in July, like they want
  • they won't like stretching it out, like the editorial department want

Well, it's kind of a vicious cycle. But resolves of such situations tend to be interesting, so I'm really curious as to how Ohba&Obata will handle this.
Mar 31, 2012 7:48 PM

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As a fan, I'd much rather have a manga come to a conclusive ending, with a great and faithful 1 or 2 season adaptation, than have it drag on past it's welcome.

And as much as I want to see Azuki/Mashiro get married as soon as possible, I do like how they're going to handle it.
Mar 31, 2012 8:54 PM

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Well you couldn't possibly not refer the situation to Death Note. Although DN ended before it's anime begun either way, so yeah...
They did have me going there for a second thinking that they might extend it though.
Damn, Hattori is so alpha.

4/5 for this.
Mar 31, 2012 9:40 PM

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I don't really understand the editorial staff's decision to have the manga run alongside the anime. Like Crouchez said above me, DN ended way before its anime adaptation was even green-lighted. And it was still successful. There are numerous other examples too; the current Jormungand adaptation, for one. Better to have a short-lived and successful anime than one cluttered with filler and prolonged until its rating slowly decline. The effects on the manga will be much worse, as the original story will eventually become boring and drawn out.

This is the type of shit that ruins all creative output.
Mar 31, 2012 9:48 PM

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If anything prevents Mashiro from FINALLY seeing Azuki, consider this dropped. >_>
Apr 1, 2012 2:26 AM

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Sounds like there will be only 8 more chapters of Bakuman
Apr 1, 2012 9:30 AM

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I am pretty sure something bad is going to happen now =.= Why don't they not just consult the editorial department but also consult the people the work in the anime? Just to make sure everything works out for the anime show :P
Apr 1, 2012 8:22 PM

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I would be surprised, if Reversi would really end so soon.
I can't believe, Jump would let Ohba critisize their company policy just like that.
Apr 1, 2012 9:02 PM

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They better not cancel the anime with this decision if they do and Mashiro and Azuki don't get married I might kill someone.... all jokes aside they better get married
Apr 1, 2012 10:02 PM

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Mashiro and Azuki are so awkward, it's adorable.

Poor Fukuda, lol.

I understand where the editorial staff is coming from, but I do agree with Ashirogi-kun. If it has that much potential to be great, then it's a risk worth taking to finish it before the anime starts. Besides, it really is the only fair way to beat Eiji.

I loved Takagi at the end. In the words of Hattor, "THIS is who Ashirogi-kun is!" ^^=
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Loved this chapter; love this manga!! I can't wait for them to marry!
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This is also kinda like retelling the story that happened with Death note after Light defeated L. they resumed it after 2-3 weeks.


And made one of the best endings ever. If DN ended when L died it would've been a mediocre manga with no points made.
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I would like for their manga, and for Bakuman itself to come to a nice, conclusive ending.

While I'd love to enjoy a series I like for as long as possible, if it goes, I want it to go with dignity. I don't want it to die a slow painful death and end up as less than it could have been.

It's like Eiji said early on in the series, he didn't like that he couldn't end his series when he wanted to. He wanted Crow to be the best series it could be and have the best ending for it that he saw, not have it drag on, and he went out with style.

I think Bakuman's the only JUMP series I read right now because it's still not as insanely long as the flagship titles like Naruto or One Piece. I used to love both of those but I hate the feeling that I'm just getting pulled along for a ride that's never going to give me a conclusive ending, so I stopped reading those a good while ago.
Apr 2, 2012 7:34 PM

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In my honest opinion, this manga has dragged along to much, it needs to wrap up things and finish has a good manga.
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I just remembered that Aoki and Hiramaru still haven't gotten married either.
Apr 3, 2012 8:44 AM

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Surely this is just the events that happened to Ohba and Obata during Death Note...but in manga form O_o
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This chapter was the very epitome of irony; a manga (bakuman) about manga artists who are trying to end their manga (reversi) because they consider it they're masterpiece and to drag it on would simply degrade the quality. And yet you have bakuman which is clearly being forced to be extended by jump or ohba just doesn't want to end it, as a result it's begging to get tiring. It pisses me off just to think that after all that build up there is a very real chance that the wedding is going to get pushed back again or scrapped all together. I really hope that this isn't the case especially when you consider that they could still at the very least get engaged, then develop their relationship like hiramaru and aoki, while simultaneously trying to finally defeat nizuma.
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LOL... if this was a real manga, I'd be really glad to see it end when the plot does, instead of uselessly going on and on. I also really respecten Eiji for that... ><
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Apr 6, 2012 3:17 AM

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This chapter is so meta.

5/5
Apr 7, 2012 12:13 AM

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Reversi ending was awesome!
Jul 23, 2012 12:19 PM

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I smell trouble coming. I'm pretty sure this wouldn't cost them the anime but I really have no idea what the outcome would be. They've abused the editorial department so many times already and this is another blow. Everyone's been supporting them so I guess it will all end well.
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this series is so meta :)
I love it
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Hattori is such an amazing editor to be honest. I really like him.
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seriously, takagi or even miho though mashiro will propose to her in phone? so unromantic lol. good one mashiro.

though as reader/watcher of manga/anime if there's a story that really addicting me it's hard to get apart from the story when it's finish, the story should end at the most perfect way it could be. especially if the mind behind the story planned the way all along.

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