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Feb 3, 2012 11:09 AM
#1
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Well, this what I expect Hibiki become better in fighting but they doesn't said anything how long Tsubasa have been in coma, she just woke up fine. It must been over a month or so to gained such a power but I dunno. Hibiki gained a powerful weapon that react of her song, but she couldn't control over it. It was pretty good. Now I wonder if Hibki & Tsubasa will fight together for here on. |
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Feb 3, 2012 11:43 AM
#2
I had a Phoenix Wright Moment when Ryoko bought the suitcase containing the memory chip for that sword, it had blood on it from the violent ambush and it was shown in a way that she is suspected in the whole incident. She must have something to do with all these events. Hibiki also got the sword but went berserk again and couldn't control it. I feel sorry for the villain symphogear though she has to be with such a vile woman with an English boss who's is the brains of the operation. |
Feb 3, 2012 2:00 PM
#3
In this episode people MUST KNOW that Hibiki's weapon and Kanade affect both of their users with Berserk. The reason for this is that Odin was enraging person too. Thus his weapon attributes get transferred to the user. This would explain why Hibiki had problems. Furthermore when it's in Berserk mode, it's harder to control. There is offence and a pile up that results in it to be stronger. In exchange for the boost you lose control of that power. About Durendal, it was rather a interesting sword despite being referenced many times in anime already. I find its first intro in the spoiler It makes the user got berserk due to its sheer power kind of like Gungnir and why it does so. Absolute power balance of intelligence/strength. A rather terrifying thing of Odin. However he could master that power but does who cannot not can self destroy. The effects it makes in the following spoiler About the Blonde girl and fan service, both were interesting TBH. In the list
About Sakurai, she was quite cute here winking and being positive driving her car. From the looks of her car in the spoiler And here too. Oh WTF is this? Sakurai now has a shield that kills Noise? Oh what? That is something amazing. I would never think she could have powers like that other than assuming she is the same blond as in the beginning. I offer my proofs in the list:
BWT One GIF of the Durendal part in the BLOG: http://myanimelist.net/blog.php?eid=681551 because my program said no to a pic of it. Image Stitches have been done in the spoiler |
Yumekichi11Feb 4, 2012 12:26 AM
Feb 3, 2012 4:05 PM
#4
Feb 3, 2012 5:34 PM
#5
All the stupid shit that happened up until Hibiki started fighting had made me decide 100% to drop the series. Now I don't know. Everything's still pretty stupid, but I enjoyed the fight at least. |
Feb 3, 2012 6:11 PM
#6
i could do without the singing but then the show would be better......wait..... |
Feb 3, 2012 6:34 PM
#7
The sadistic woman at the beginning is Ryoko for those who don't seem to get it :P Also... Hibiki rating just went waaaay up with this episode :D Now I'm really curious what makes her so special... Not only did she sink with the fragments of Gungnir easily (and unintentionally) that Kanade worked so hard n shed blood to gain compatibility with, but she also now seems to be the only one so far whos compatible with this other old complete relic durandal which btw has immense power :D well to say the least I'm excited bout the next episode ^_^ |
Few maxims have done as much harm as, "Children should be seen and not heard." |
Feb 3, 2012 6:35 PM
#8
Blackbird said: Did I not tell you buddy? Kanade has to wake her up. Tsubasa is in the death/life world. The decision will lead to waking up or dying out.Well, this what I expect Hibiki become better in fighting but they doesn't said anything how long Tsubasa have been in coma, she just woke up fine. Panaru said: Actually it might sound stupid and fan servish but kudos to the people in getting Sadomasochism fetish in this series. On top of that it characterizes the blond as a hot slut for males to be punished by and get it on with. I think it's somewhat innovative in this series. Everything's still pretty stupid, but I enjoyed the fight at least. Well at least now I know how has the biggest breasts and she is so mature that blond. Her neck choke is nice. Black and its shape specifically. Therefore I cannot agree with you all is stupid really. |
Yumekichi11Feb 3, 2012 11:59 PM
Feb 3, 2012 6:46 PM
#9
God damn, Tsubasa needs to get back into action cause Hibiki's singing is fucking atrocious. Whose great idea was it to have Yuuki Aoi sing in that terrible voice? Calling it now, Ryouko is clearly not who she appears to be. She was most likely involved in that attack on the minister of defense with the bloody briefcase and all. Hell, she might even be that blonde woman with the terrible engrish. |
Feb 3, 2012 6:53 PM
#10
Wasabi said: Naturally USA damn conspiracies elements detected around. That guy's English was a joke and clearly it ringed with me USA. Plus there was mention of relics and the USA surely has loads of them but they just plain want all of them.Calling it now, Ryouko is clearly not who she appears to be. She was most likely involved in that attack on the minister of defense with the bloody briefcase and all. Hell, she might even be that blonde woman with the terrible engrish. |
Feb 3, 2012 6:58 PM
#11
I'm glad that Hibiki become more capable character. And damn, that Durandal stuff was badass! |
Feb 3, 2012 7:14 PM
#12
What? The person in the beginning is Ryoko? She seemed so different at all points of the episode. Durandal was amazing, lovely. |
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Feb 3, 2012 7:36 PM
#13
Elite60 said: Also, dat english. "Dat English" Was exactly what I thought just now. And had to post about. |
Feb 3, 2012 7:36 PM
#14
LightAndDark said: What? The person in the beginning is Ryoko? She seemed so different at all points of the episode. Durandal was amazing, lovely. <img src="http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lytnpaPMHF1qbyxr0o1_500.gif" /> Not too hard to infer if ya think about it ;D Firstly they made damnable sure u didn't see her face clearly, but you definitely could notice other features about her from seeing it primarily the hair style more than anything (forget color for now) which they deliberately showed u at the end of the episode and the sadistic looks match as well (also at the end) Next is Chris whos obviously attacthed to ms sadistic lady from b4 or... w/e it is :P anyway notice her look back over her shoulder at Ryoko when Hibiki started powering up durandal. Seemed to me a kinda hmmm whats the word... jealous? threatened? i dunno but at least it was apparent that Ryoko seeming fascination with this Hibiki/Durandal power-up was not desirable. Lastly is the oh so conspicuous briefcase containing their orders from the assassinated official guy. It had blood on the side... gotten from the official when they killed everyone in the car with it. The guys who attacked them were speaking English (so so terrible English)... The sadistic chick was on the phone with an English speaker (presumably Americans) and apparently was going to "rely" on them for "something". ie killing official dude and taking briefcase from him. IMO she had them steal it and then altered the mission data on it in order to get the Durandal moved to a different location (that way they could easily steal it) but of course Hibiki being compatible with it and activating it were a highly pleasant upset to those plans in her eyes =P Whew, took alot outta me there :D |
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Feb 3, 2012 7:53 PM
#15
Found something in the spoiler http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulcanelli Alchemy reference! blahrgness said: I could not even understand all the words it was more gibberish.Elite60 said: Also, dat english. "Dat English" Was exactly what I thought just now. And had to post about. |
Feb 3, 2012 8:00 PM
#16
Well at least Hibiki can now fight and isnt just some helpless girl with power now. I started thinking of the show He-Man the minute she picked up Durandel and it started transforming. |
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Feb 3, 2012 8:04 PM
#17
Wasabi said: God damn, Tsubasa needs to get back into action cause Hibiki's singing is fucking atrocious. Whose great idea was it to have Yuuki Aoi sing in that terrible voice? Lol I couldn't agree with you more on this statement. |
Feb 3, 2012 8:06 PM
#18
Faded_Illusion said: Well at least Hibiki can now fight and isnt just some helpless girl with power now. I started thinking of the show He-Man the minute she picked up Durandel and it started transforming. Lols you too? Totally was thinking I... HAVE...THE POWEEERRRRR during that scene =P |
Few maxims have done as much harm as, "Children should be seen and not heard." |
Feb 3, 2012 8:22 PM
#19
It seems to be that Ryouko has a hidden agenda. |
Feb 3, 2012 8:30 PM
#20
Durandal was epic. And its Hibiki's new weapon. Yumekichi11 said: Found something in the spoiler http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulcanelli Alchemy reference! blahrgness said: I could not even understand all the words it was more gibberish.Elite60 said: Also, dat english. Should of made a gif of the Durandal. "Dat English" Was exactly what I thought just now. And had to post about. |
Feb 3, 2012 8:55 PM
#21
Wasabi said: God damn, Tsubasa needs to get back into action cause Hibiki's singing is fucking atrocious. Whose great idea was it to have Yuuki Aoi sing in that terrible voice? Calling it now, Ryouko is clearly not who she appears to be. She was most likely involved in that attack on the minister of defense with the bloody briefcase and all. Hell, she might even be that blonde woman with the terrible engrish. Woah woah, let's take a step back here. I like Yuuki Aoi's singing. Sure there's a ton of other seiyuu I'd rather hear also but it's not bad. |
Feb 3, 2012 8:58 PM
#22
razisgosu said: I agree. I find myself positive when I listen to Hibiki's song because it inspires youth and that you are not useless no matter how pathetic you may be. I think the song itself has a nice beat and rhythm. Although formulated a little childish. Wasabi said: God damn, Tsubasa needs to get back into action cause Hibiki's singing is fucking atrocious. Whose great idea was it to have Yuuki Aoi sing in that terrible voice? Calling it now, Ryouko is clearly not who she appears to be. She was most likely involved in that attack on the minister of defence with the bloody briefcase and all. Hell, she might even be that blonde woman with the terrible English. Woah woah, let's take a step back here. I like Yuuki Aoi's singing. Sure there's a ton of other seiyuu I'd rather hear also but it's not bad. Regardless I can understand some people find its pace and tune bad. |
Feb 3, 2012 9:05 PM
#23
First we have Susanoo, Odin and Moses, now we have Roland? What next, King Arthur? |
Feb 3, 2012 9:14 PM
#24
Good episode,Hibiki fighting was cool good to see she already improve and now she got the legendary sword Durendal(if you people know the story) that it looks give her a big boost. The english was funny,so bad but if you have watch anime you already know that to find good english is almost impossible. Tsubasa decided life and many thanks to Kanade she,it looks like now she understand that there is more to live that being a weapon only....i am glad! Also i think Ryouko was the crazy masochist chick at the beginning,she is without a doubt behind all this attacks and i want to know what is her objective....maybe she wants to use Hibiki for something now she has Durendal?!?! Yumekichi11 said: razisgosu said: Wasabi said: God damn, Tsubasa needs to get back into action cause Hibiki's singing is fucking atrocious. Whose great idea was it to have Yuuki Aoi sing in that terrible voice? Calling it now, Ryouko is clearly not who she appears to be. She was most likely involved in that attack on the minister of defence with the bloody briefcase and all. Hell, she might even be that blonde woman with the terrible English. Woah woah, let's take a step back here. I like Yuuki Aoi's singing. Sure there's a ton of other seiyuu I'd rather hear also but it's not bad. I agree. I find myself positive when I listen to Hibiki's song because it inspires youth and that you are not useless no matter how pathetic you may be. I think the song itself has a nice beat and rhythm. Although formulated a little childish. Regardless I can understand some people find its pace and tune bad. Agree maybe the tune is not that good but is different and i kinda enjoy it also..is Aoi Yuuki let her be! Well lets see what the next episode bring us. |
Feb 3, 2012 9:38 PM
#25
I loved this episode. Yeah I didn't think about it until some of you mentioned it but there was a lot of foreshadowing that will lead you to believe Ryoko is the lady at the beginning. Ryoko already seems to have deep intent for girls anyway and the lady at the beginning definitely wasn't holding back. Not to mention she has relic powerful for reasons yet to be explained. But hell the director can block a giant sword just by being awesome.... But yes. Hibiki made me lose it when she proved she wasn't just klutz moe. She kicked series ass and that was just after a montage of the last episode. And now she's synched with Durandal! I mean she gets all that power which is nice but she better stick to good old fistcuffs for at least a few more battle oriented episodes. 5/5 people |
Feb 3, 2012 10:51 PM
#27
Khaoticsuccubus said: LightAndDark said: What? The person in the beginning is Ryoko? She seemed so different at all points of the episode. Durandal was amazing, lovely. <img src="http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lytnpaPMHF1qbyxr0o1_500.gif" /> Not too hard to infer if ya think about it ;D Firstly they made damnable sure u didn't see her face clearly, but you definitely could notice other features about her from seeing it primarily the hair style more than anything (forget color for now) which they deliberately showed u at the end of the episode and the sadistic looks match as well (also at the end) Next is Chris whos obviously attacthed to ms sadistic lady from b4 or... w/e it is :P anyway notice her look back over her shoulder at Ryoko when Hibiki started powering up durandal. Seemed to me a kinda hmmm whats the word... jealous? threatened? i dunno but at least it was apparent that Ryoko seeming fascination with this Hibiki/Durandal power-up was not desirable. Lastly is the oh so conspicuous briefcase containing their orders from the assassinated official guy. It had blood on the side... gotten from the official when they killed everyone in the car with it. The guys who attacked them were speaking English (so so terrible English)... The sadistic chick was on the phone with an English speaker (presumably Americans) and apparently was going to "rely" on them for "something". ie killing official dude and taking briefcase from him. IMO she had them steal it and then altered the mission data on it in order to get the Durandal moved to a different location (that way they could easily steal it) but of course Hibiki being compatible with it and activating it were a highly pleasant upset to those plans in her eyes =P Whew, took alot outta me there :D Same thoughts here. |
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Feb 3, 2012 11:04 PM
#28
I had a fare number of issues with this episode. Mainly that horrible English voice acting. Though its to be expected. However when this show does things right, it does it well enough that I can look forward to next week. I have high hopes for more epic moments in the future. Edit: After thinking about it for a while, I think I figured it out! They used Scottish Asians for the English voice acting didnt they! Now the horrible mashed up gibberish makes sense! |
KirasNoteFeb 3, 2012 11:07 PM
Feb 3, 2012 11:05 PM
#29
newnar said: More like failure. They decided to use Durandal as a reference. Seriously they should use other references of Swords from RPG instead only IRL history from. Besides that there are loads of swords to choose from to do that. Guess Japan is nuts over Excalibur and Durandal for some reason that I do not know of.Excalibur much? |
Feb 3, 2012 11:30 PM
#30
Yumekichi11 said: newnar said: More like failure. They decided to use Durandal as a reference. Seriously they should use other references of Swords from RPG instead only IRL history from. Besides that there are loads of swords to choose from to do that. Guess Japan is nuts over Excalibur and Durandal for some reason that I do not know of.Excalibur much? hehe indeed there are so many other swords out there with good story and history reference and they always chose the same......but it could be worse. |
Feb 4, 2012 12:37 AM
#31
dat english if you can even call it that could hardly make out any of it lol and after this episode i don't really trust Ryouko at all but she looks hot with her hair down and without those stupid glasses. -continues the watch the show despite how silly it is |
Feb 4, 2012 1:44 AM
#32
I didn't think the comical training of kung fu had that much effects. I guess the fighting skill will be so helpful especially when they need to fight Nehushtan girl. I like the Hibiki (Aoi)'s singing that the tone sounds kind of childish and like aho-no-ko despite it isn't so good at. But it's like herself. And she sings as she's pleasant and vigorous. I guess it's sometimes more important than how you can sing well. |
Feb 4, 2012 1:51 AM
#33
I'm only still watching this show for the sole purpose of seeing Hibiki die. |
Feb 4, 2012 2:16 AM
#34
Ok Bro lets the fun begin! Yumekichi11 said: According to the spoiler a rather violent and bloody war started with a shooting. The forces were not know but because they spoke English I assume SPF (Special Para Forces) of USA origin. I was quite surprised at all this TBH. I did not think there would be inter wars when Aliens are eating us up. Really stupid! Humans are stupid no matter if the world is ending,humans will always want more and more power even that means annihilation..thats how sad humans are : / Yumekichi11 said: Now take a look at the following spoiler blood on that suitcase = to Sakurai automatically being with those forces or their faction. It puts her there or at the scene or nearby it. Check her eyes they change. Another hint she is the blond chick specially since she was talking with the "americans". Yumekichi11 said: Notice Nehustan’s expression in the spoiler why the heck did she do that? Looks to me like she wanted to do something to Sakurai but knew she could not do anything in fact. Why is that? Because Sakurai is the blond and Nehushtan knew that she could get punished severely for anything else that was not planned by Sakurai. I think more that she couldn't nothing i see more that she was jealous of Hibiki,since Sakurai was smiling at Hibiki controlling Durandel and as we see at the beginning of the episode even that she gets torture she has an affect for Sakurai (if she is the blonde chick),so seeing her so happy from someone else that isn't her probably cause a attack of jealousy. Yumekichi11 said: Finally see the expressions of Sakurai in the spoiler that does not look normal to me. That scene and specially the second picture make me sure she the blonde chick i will explain my theory further down Yumekichi11 said: Conclusion? I highly accuse of Sakurai of conspiring with the USA and betrayal of Japan and its people while furthermore causing damage to Japan. Less she proves her innocence she is guilty as charged by me. Make no mistake that I feel some bad shit to happen in the future. I will leave it at that. Agree but i think she is just using the Americans also,i think she has her own agenda and Hibiki controlling Darandel maybe also part of her plans,whatever it is not good....but it will be fun!! Now i will make use of this 2 pictures in the spoiler to prove some points and why she is without doubt the blond chick This 2 help me notice a lot of similarities between the both: -First: if you notice in the hair cut style is the same one beyond the color of the hair is the same in all ways. -Second: If you look in the lipstick color is pretty much the same one. -Third: If you look at the way both smile...is the same evil smirk. -Fourth: The face form is the same one also. -Fifth: This photo may not show it but the breast size is pretty much the same also. I think this proves or improves the chances that she is the blond chick! Also one thing to point is the necklace the "blond chick" is wearing i think it may be something about the color hair change and may be also how he can control the noise,it could be many things or it could be just nothing but it also kinda interesting thing to share. Well whatever she is or not we probably will find out soon even way is always fun sharing theories :) |
raxius1230Feb 4, 2012 2:31 AM
Feb 4, 2012 2:24 AM
#35
raxius1230 said: It's true it could be and even that Sakurai might have promised her that weapon to destroy Hibiki which sadly took it first. Yumekichi11 said: Notice Nehustan’s expression in the spoiler why the heck did she do that? Looks to me like she wanted to do something to Sakurai but knew she could not do anything in fact. Why is that? Because Sakurai is the blond and Nehushtan knew that she could get punished severely for anything else that was not planned by Sakurai. I think more that she couldn't nothing i see more that she was jealous of Hibiki,since Sakurai was smiling at Hibiki controlling Durendal and as we see at the beginning of the episode even that she gets torture she has an affect for Sakurai (if she is the blonde chick),so seeing her so happy from someone else that isn't her probably cause a attack of jealousy. I will agree with you that Nehushtan wanted to prove something to Sakurai knowing fully she is the blond then we can assume that to be the case. Since the last torture signs of her smile there. Yumekichi11 said: Finally see the expressions of Sakurai in the spoiler that does not look normal to me. raxius1230 said: EXCELLENT DEDUCTION! Indeed there is no doubt it proves further things. We shall indeed if she is. The neck-choker may indeed be a device to fool others with her appearance.That scene and specially the second picture make me sure she the blonde chick now i will make my theory with this 2 pictures in the spoiler -First: if you notice in the hair cut style is the same one beyond the colour of the hair is the same in all ways. -Second: If you look in the lipstick colour is pretty much the same one. -Third: If you look at the way both smile...is the same evil smirk. I think this proves or improves the chances that she is the blond chick! Also one thing to point is the necklace the "blond chick" is wearing i think it may be something about the colour hair change,it could be many things or it could be just nothing but it could explain many things but i can think much more right now. Well whatever she is or not we probably will find out soon even way is always fun sharing theories :) |
Feb 4, 2012 2:42 AM
#36
Yumekichi11 said: EXCELLENT DEDUCTION! Indeed there is no doubt it proves further things. We shall indeed if she is. The neck-choker may indeed be a device to fool others with her appearance. or they have limited number of character designs here but it would be nice if that theory was right - of course unless they will be able to use it, there are not so many episodes left but it's progressing here - finally Hibiki got some weapon nice to see, on a bad side she cannot controll it and her in berserk mode is a bit useless I say, like blowing an entire factory just like that? and to make a rephrasing here... continues the watch the show because of how silly it is and I like it :D |
Feb 4, 2012 3:24 AM
#37
Feb 4, 2012 5:11 AM
#39
Magito said: Yeah, OMFG that was atrocious and impossible to understand without subs -.-'DAT ENGLISH Dat english made me ears hurt! Other than that. BERSERK Mode! Wish they did something else with the transformation than just painting her top half black but oh well, at least the level of destruction was adequate this time (^.^) |
Feb 4, 2012 5:22 AM
#40
antonn said: I'm only still watching this show for the sole purpose of seeing Hibiki die. well you might as well wait until the last to episodes to watch the show. Because I'm pretty sure they'll wait til the finale to kill her off and fulfill the prophetic beginning scene. Magito said: DAT ENGLISH Dat english made me ears hurt! You know it's pretty bad when the English fansubbers have to subtitle the English dialogue and fix a horrendous amount of grammatical errors while doing it. So let's get this straight. Did Hibiki off the light blue haired girl? They didn't show her turning to dust; so i have a feeling she's not dead. |
Feb 4, 2012 6:17 AM
#41
Wahaha. Just when you think it can't get any more ridiculous, it does. |
Feb 4, 2012 6:21 AM
#42
well never thought sorta better late than never give saw 1st 5eps oh boy indeed like combine nanoha, madoka, singing, & who know what else put in next. yea ep.5 yea that ENGLISH speaking wondering why & oh yep so likely either in mid-point eps expect a "heel" turn will happen. cause seeing how it goes so most anime-marks got it who doing the "heel" overall yea watch it more. |
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Feb 4, 2012 6:41 AM
#43
Ryoko : Rho Aias! |
Feb 4, 2012 7:27 AM
#44
What was that scene at the beginning , honestly i was disgusted "Woman go put on some clothes". Ryoko looked prettier with her hair down. |
Feb 4, 2012 7:50 AM
#45
Just started watching. Magito said: DAT ENGLISH Dat english made me ears hurt! It wasn't so bad, besides she speaks decent english http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBhlM0UpHLU Still bad. |
bastek66Feb 4, 2012 11:12 AM
Feb 4, 2012 9:42 AM
#46
blahrgness said: Elite60 said: Also, dat english. "Dat English" Was exactly what I thought just now. And had to post about. i would have preferred nails on a chalkboard. what sucks about it was that it was very deliberate. |
Feb 4, 2012 12:53 PM
#47
Feb 4, 2012 2:13 PM
#48
Oh Symphogear, why are you so confusing? First you annoy me with tasteless drama and a stupid main character, now you give me a potentially interesting plot including some international conspiracy, exciting action scenes and naked sadistic women? I don't know what magic was that, but it was convincing enough. On a more serious note, I did say the show would redeem itself a LOT just by working on Hibiki. Indeed, finally I didn't feel the urge to punch the screen whenever she talked, and things got much more fun because of that. |
Feb 4, 2012 3:24 PM
#49
I swear to god that power up sound of the Durandal is the exact same sound effect as charging your beam in Metroid Prime. Just play the episode at 20:24 and listen to this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9wmIFQqqd8 It's exactly the same. |
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