Guilty Crown Episode 15 Discussion

kamikaze_1996 said:
imo the episode was just fine and me and many other people found hare's death to be heartbreaking and shu's transition to be awesome

yourelagginme said:
1. Still no adults whatsoever. Kid poowwwrrrr.
2. Fanservice because modern Anime is about selling Blurays of course. Substance? Plot? Logic? Pul-leeze.
3. "Distinction?! That's discrimination Shoe! How dare you rank our super powers that we didn't even know we had until 5 minutes ago xD Nevermind the fact that I have a random object in my chest, we all accept that blindly xD. This isn't forced drama at all!"
4. I'm Hare. I love spinless boys. All girls love the wimps. You're unasserativeness makes my women parts feel weird.
5. Errrrbody holding their voids. Shu's explanation for this from before: "I... t-think my powers changed"
6. Plothole: Hare uses her Void to heal the girl, but it would've been impossible for it to have been out because Shoe ran off to "distract" the missile launcher wielding military gundams (smart idea).
7. LOL. Car defies the laws of physics and dodges 4 missiles by moving side to side REALLY fast somehow (never mind the fact that Inori is driving)
8. No recoil from a shoulder mounted ROCKET LAUNCHER (it would probably nearly snap her spine)
8. LOL WHAT. Hare breaks and vanishes into magic pixy dust? LOL. WHAT?
9. Oh no you killed a rather irrelevant character. I am going to go berserk now like every typical shounen hero. This "twist" hasn't been done in the exact same way and forced down our throats 100 times since DBZ. I will now likely defy gravity and logic by having increased super abilities (with no explanation), and I will absolutely end up killing everything instead of dying from one bullet.
10. "is that rly shoe xD? sugoi no way. he mad now his powers increase when he mad. never mind logic."
11. Not ONE BULLET fired in the entire "final battle". LOL.
12. I am so dark and evil now xD i am guilty crown the blood pours within my veins, oh thy darkness i trust my sins. I am Shoe I will become king. Fin. (not the most typical rushed "twist" ever that everyone knew would happen since the moment Gai died of course)

It's safe to say that this episode was so bad that I'm genuinely shocked even for Guilty Crown standards.

1/5 (Being extremely generous here)

yourelagginme said:
1. Still no adults whatsoever. Kid poowwwrrrr.
2. Fanservice because modern Anime is about selling Blurays of course. Substance? Plot? Logic? Pul-leeze.
3. "Distinction?! That's discrimination Shoe! How dare you rank our super powers that we didn't even know we had until 5 minutes ago xD Nevermind the fact that I have a random object in my chest, we all accept that blindly xD. This isn't forced drama at all!"
4. I'm Hare. I love spinless boys. All girls love the wimps. You're unasserativeness makes my women parts feel weird.
5. Errrrbody holding their voids. Shu's explanation for this from before: "I... t-think my powers changed"
6. Plothole: Hare uses her Void to heal the girl, but it would've been impossible for it to have been out because Shoe ran off to "distract" the missile launcher wielding military gundams (smart idea).
7. LOL. Car defies the laws of physics and dodges 4 missiles by moving side to side REALLY fast somehow (never mind the fact that Inori is driving)
8. No recoil from a shoulder mounted ROCKET LAUNCHER (it would probably nearly snap her spine)
8. LOL WHAT. Hare breaks and vanishes into magic pixy dust? LOL. WHAT?
9. Oh no you killed a rather irrelevant character. I am going to go berserk now like every typical shounen hero. This "twist" hasn't been done in the exact same way and forced down our throats 100 times since DBZ. I will now likely defy gravity and logic by having increased super abilities (with no explanation), and I will absolutely end up killing everything instead of dying from one bullet.
10. "is that rly shoe xD? sugoi no way. he mad now his powers increase when he mad. never mind logic."
11. Not ONE BULLET fired in the entire "final battle". LOL.
12. I am so dark and evil now xD i am guilty crown the blood pours within my veins, oh thy darkness i trust my sins. I am Shoe I will become king. Fin. (not the most typical rushed "twist" ever that everyone knew would happen since the moment Gai died of course)

It's safe to say that this episode was so bad that I'm genuinely shocked even for Guilty Crown standards.

1/5 (Being extremely generous here)

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Ok, I don't mind people having different opinions about an anime, we all have different taste, but what I hate is when people get info all wrong:

1. Why are you calling him "shoe"? His name is "Shu."
2. Inori was not driving the truck, it was Yahiro! They're in Japan, the steering wheel is on the opposite side!
3. Have you even watched this show!? Hare's entire body was crystalized, so of course she would shatter into "pixie dust" (as you so "brilliantly" put it).
4. Why are you "hating" on every thing in this anime?! It's an anime, they are allowed to make unrealistic things seem realistic, that's the great thing about animation. It's like when you watch an action movie and a character jumps out of a speeding car and is still alive, that's the thing, it's a movie. Yes there are some things that definitely make no logical sense, like with hare using her void without Shu around, but the rest is fine.
5. Finally, if someone really close to you died in an unfortunate way, wouldn't you feel the same way as shu? Traumatic things can change people, dude.

Silverfang18 said:
Ok, I don't mind people having different opinions about an anime, we all have different taste, but what I hate is when people get info all wrong:

1. Why are you calling him "shoe"? His name is "Shu."
2. Inori was not driving the truck, it was Yahiro! They're in Japan, the steering wheel is on the opposite side!
3. Have you even watched this show!? Hare's entire body was crystalized, so of course she would shatter into "pixie dust" (as you so "brilliantly" put it).
4. Why are you "hating" on every thing in this anime?! It's an anime, they are aloud to make unrealistic things seem realistic, that's the great thing about animation. It's like when you watch an action movie and a character jumps out of a speeding car and is still alive, that's the thing, it's a movie. Yes there are some things that definitely make no logical sense, like with hare using her void without Shu around, but the rest is fine.
5. Finally, if someone really close to you died in an unfortunate way, wouldn't you feel the same way as shu? Traumatic things can change people, dude.

Nidhoeggr said:


LOL.
Also what's up all this "a man wiser than myself"/"a wise man once said" bullshit ? Are you people so insecure that you need to cloak your criticism in the words of other people? If yes, then congratulations: You are probably exactly the kind of person Shu should appeal to. And that's IN NO WAY a positive sign.



5/5 post, man.
But you forgot how the helicopters did target the running idiots instead of the wheelchair girl with the rocket launcher. Elite pilots.

kamikaze_1996 said:


your a prime example of a hater who has nothing better to do than nitpick on problems which dont even exist or are so minoscule that it makes no difference, i could disagree with so many of them right now like many others but i dont have the time to, imo the episode was just fine and me and many other people found hare's death to be heartbreaking and shu's transition to be awesome

but you have your own dam opinions about the show and just like i have mine

"beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

Silverfang18 said:
It's an anime, they are aloud to make unrealistic things seem realistic, that's the great thing about animation.

kamikaze_1996 said:
your a prime example of a hater who has nothing better to do than nitpick on problems which dont even exist or are so minoscule that it makes no difference

kamikaze_1996 said:
i could disagree with so many of them right now like many others but i dont have the time to, imo the episode was just fine and me and many other people found hare's death to be heartbreaking and shu's transition to be awesome

kamikaze_1996 said:
"beauty is in the eye of the beholder" Wise man.

the guy on the last page said:
Have you even watched this show!? Hare's entire body was crystalized, so of course she would shatter into "pixie dust" (as you so "brilliantly" put it).

Gui1ty_Cr0wn said:
Ok to the people who are on here to write shit about this awesome anime, why the hell are you still watching it?! If you don't like it, don't watch it, it is as simple as that. People are picking out everything single thing! And it's not like it is a bad anime, and code geass and this are completely different, how can you compare the two?!
Also to the people bagging out shu, how the hell have you expected him to act and behave in this anime, you can't get a very insecure kid, which was shown at the very start, to become some 'badass' or 'hero'. Of course he's going to be a very untrusting and unsure character!
Hare's death was sad but why the hell should that make this anime bad?
The plot isn't even that bad either, and I am quite a fan of this anime.
People should have more respect for the directors of this anime instead of criticizing it, it's not like you're making this anime are you?

P.s sorry for the rant, just don't understand why people are watching it if the don't like.

yourelagginme said:
The sad part is the two whiners who feel bad for liking such a flawed show don't even understand how to use the quote function properly . If anything it's a self-fulfilling prophecy and further proves that anyone who enjoys Guilty Crown is a child (possibly only mentally) and/or doesn't understand the intrinsic details of what makes media flawed or not flawed.

They quoted me, and then added their replies IN the quote. LMAO. Ah, such is life for a Guilty Crown fan.



"butthurt is in the behind of the Guilty Crown fan"

Wiser man.

Gui1ty_Cr0wn said:
Ok to the people who are on here to write shit about this awesome anime, why the hell are you still watching it?! If you don't like it, don't watch it, it is as simple as that. People are picking out everything single thing! And it's not like it is a bad anime, and code geass and this are completely different, how can you compare the two?!
Also to the people bagging out shu, how the hell have you expected him to act and behave in this anime, you can't get a very insecure kid, which was shown at the very start, to become some 'badass' or 'hero'. Of course he's going to be a very untrusting and unsure character!
Hare's death was sad but why the hell should that make this anime bad?
The plot isn't even that bad either, and I am quite a fan of this anime.
People should have more respect for the directors of this anime instead of criticizing it, it's not like you're making this anime are you?

P.s sorry for the rant, just don't understand why people are watching it if the don't like.

Silverfang18 said:

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Thank goodness, someone who makes sense. Personally, I really like the show and the plot, like I said before I don't mind people who dislike it, that just means they have different taste. But Gui1ty_Cr0wn is right, don't like, then don't watch it. End of story.

Silverfang18 said:
Thank goodness, someone who makes sense. Personally, I really like the show and the plot, like I said before I don't mind people who dislike it, that just means they have different taste. But Gui1ty_Cr0wn is right, don't like, then don't watch it. End of story.

Nidhoeggr said:
5/5 post, man.
But you forgot how the helicopters did target the running idiots instead of the wheelchair girl with the rocket launcher. Elite pilots.

Silverfang18 said:
But Gui1ty_Cr0wn is right, don't like, then don't watch it. End of story.

Trance_Kuja90 said:


Most of the people hating on this just pretend they are serious otaku's while liking even worst shit. Its really sad how some people want attention.

Darklight0303 said:
"It's okay to not like things~ It's okay but DON'T BE A FUCKING DICK ABOUT IT~"

Nidhoeggr said:


Yay, another one of the "a wise man once said brigade". How about you actually refute the points we made instead of just whining all the time?

yourelagginme said:
6. Plothole: Hare uses her Void to heal the girl, but it would've been impossible for it to have been out because Shoe ran off to "distract" the missile launcher wielding military gundams (smart idea).

yourelagginme said:
7. LOL. Car defies the laws of physics and dodges 4 missiles by moving side to side REALLY fast somehow (never mind the fact that Inori is driving) Wise man.

Nidhoeggr said:
Yay, another one of the "a wise man once said brigade". How about you actually refute the points we made instead of just whining all the time?

Yumekichi11 said:
the car had magically being armored reinforced anti-fire and anti-explosions less you have a better explanation.

Nidhoeggr said:


Yay, another one of the "a wise man once said brigade". How about you actually refute the points we made instead of just whining all the time?

Ikano said:
o_o .....man....
I know sacrificing Hare was necessary to force Shu to change (because of course they're saving Inori until the end for who knows what) but still....

NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! HARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And yeah seriously.....use her void to fix a car. THAT WAS THE DUMBEST IDEA EVER SOUTA!
I felt bad for him in the beginning but after this.

STAY IN THE CORNER AND STICK TO OPENING CANS YOU DAMN JERK!!!

I can sorta see Shu turning into some sort of ass-kickin overlord but who's mentally withdrawn to everyone else now.....(Cuz I doubt he turn into another bad-ass Gai anytime soon).
Man he's sooooo broken now <_<;

yourelagginme said:


You should back off — he is Darklight0303. I can feel that his 2deep4u is almost as advanced and dark as Shoe after his realistic 2 minute ass-pull transformation.

yourelagginme said:


You should back off — he is Darklight0303. I can feel that his 2deep4u is almost as advanced and dark as Shoe after his realistic 2 minute ass-pull transformation.

Darklight0303 said:
Just as planned~ You fell for my clever trap to draw your ire from the show only to direct it at my person. *cackles like an evil mastermind and shrugs off the flames*

yourelagginme said:


There is no "ire". Only cold logic and reason.

Trance_Kuja90 said:


You gave a 10 to madoka magica, that pretty much tells us that you are completely unable to seperate your tastes from logical thought and objective judgement, therefore rendering you unable to have a serious conversation with.

There, i answered all the points you made at once.

Nidhoeggr said:


You didn't even watch it - or are you afraid to add to your pretentious list?
And I know it's overrated and that there are several other MS out there with similar themes (Utakata for example). But my score also reflects my enjoyment and is just very roughly done - it's more an internal measurement of how well these series fare against each other in my personal enjoyment at the point of their airing. Or are you one of those "it's popular, so it must be bad" people?

Darklight0303 said:

And you have the stinking hypocrisy to attack others for doing the exact same for this show? You sir lost all standing in any future debates for this show.

Nidhoeggr said:


I don't remain ignorant on the faults of the anime I did watch. Unlike certain other people here...

Darklight0303 said:
The wording used for those arguments is anything but cold. Why it's as hot and fierce as the center of the Earth.

freezie said:
almost sad how much people criticize this anime. and the parts about it being like code geass is because the people who are doing Code geass are also doing this.

The anime gets to much shit from people and why? cliché sure but the feeling around the characters are brilliant just like code geass. And the OST is super good. If u want to make an anime good you need to have these points. it would be a hell of a boring thing if nothing happened and shu was just some badass guy all the time like people seems to want. Go watch seinen instead of this if youre not pleased!

Trance_Kuja90 said:


You gave a 10 to madoka magica, that pretty much tells us that you are completely unable to seperate your tastes from logical thought and objective judgement, therefore rendering you unable to have a serious conversation with.

There, i answered all the points you made at once.

Nidhoeggr said:


You didn't even watch it - or are you afraid to add it to your pretentious list?
And I know it's overrated and that there are several other MS out there with similar themes (Utakata for example). But my score also reflects my enjoyment and is just very roughly done - it's more an internal measurement of how well these series fare against each other in my personal enjoyment at the point of their airing. Or are you one of those "it's popular, so it must be bad" people?

This is off-topic btw, so we should not continue this conversation here.

Nidhoeggr said:


LOL.
Also what's up all this "a man wiser than myself"/"a wise man once said" bullshit ? Are you people so insecure that you need to cloak your criticism in the words of other people? If yes, then congratulations: You are probably exactly the kind of person Shu should appeal to. And that's IN NO WAY a positive sign.



5/5 post, man.
But you forgot how the helicopters did target the running idiots instead of the wheelchair girl with the rocket launcher. Elite pilots.

Karhu said:
]You do realize how stupid your post is?

yourelagginme said:
The sad part is the two whiners who feel bad for liking such a flawed show don't even understand how to use the quote function properly . If anything it's a self-fulfilling prophecy and further proves that anyone who enjoys Guilty Crown is a child (possibly only mentally) and/or doesn't understand the intrinsic details of what makes media flawed or not flawed.

They quoted me, and then added their replies IN the quote. LMAO. Ah, such is life for a Guilty Crown fan.



Cop-out. Anime =! bad writing.



Personally I think Guilty Crown being terrible is anything but a miniscule thing. Oh, and I recommend working your spelling so don't embarrass yourself anymore. Mkay pumpkin?



But you had the time to baaaaaawww about my post. Convenient.



"butthurt is in the behind of the Guilty Crown fan"

Wiser man.



False. She had crystals on her body, but she was still 80% flesh, and then... poof! Pixy dust. I really hope you're being ironic. I really really hope so, because if you're not I have bad news for you.

kamikaze_1996 said:


how stupid? are you another hater who says "guilty crown sucks but im still gonna watch the next episode"

Sir_Lexa said:
lol this discussion thread is a major clusterfuck. Atleast I got to press the report button again :) Some people should understand that insulting and talking to other users in a condescending way because they don't share the same opinion, is pretty much retarded.

But there will always be these so called "elite" that will tell you how to think. And if you disagree, then you better watch out because you are obviously a bumbling moron who doesn't know anything about anime. pfft.

parfaited said:
Well shit.
If they were going to kill someone off it should have been Inori.

I hadn't been feeling too many of the other episodes but I liked this one.

Karhu said:

Yes and no. Guilty Crown is really bad anime, nothing changes that. I watch it because I still enjoy it even though it's objectively horrible. You are actually same as me, only difference is that I actually admit and see why the series is so bad. You just think that it must be good because you like it and for that reason want to defend it. There is really no point on doing so, imo. So called haters have every reason to hate it. Criticism they give it valid but you can't accept that. Ignorance maybe.