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Oct 24, 2011 6:51 AM

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Finally! The fighting began! And with Saber and Lancer! (thanks creators for his charming appearance and nobility personality *bow*)
Good job with Lancer lance ability. And the fight is really nice.
Rider is amazing, fun guy xD
Waiting for the next ep.
Oct 24, 2011 6:58 AM

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Fai said:
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Honestly who cares how the animation quality is... The show is amazing either way. Plus that is kind of a crappy picture of Fate/Zero to use.... But to be fair its animation is amazing.

After how DEEN massacred FSN adaptation, EVERYONE cares how animation is. :)


DEEEN didn't do THAT bad...but yeah Fate/Zero is way better in terms of animation quality than FSN.

Oct 24, 2011 8:58 AM

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m3lancholy said:
nothing much happened in this ep.

but lancer is damn hawt


Wait, nothing much happened??? What were you watching? o.o

DesolateOne said:
Fai said:
Matron_Laylie said:
Honestly who cares how the animation quality is... The show is amazing either way. Plus that is kind of a crappy picture of Fate/Zero to use.... But to be fair its animation is amazing.

After how DEEN massacred FSN adaptation, EVERYONE cares how animation is. :)


DEEEN didn't do THAT bad...but yeah Fate/Zero is way better in terms of animation quality than FSN.


I honestly that they did do a very bad job with the original anime. The UBW movie had much better art so that was good, but both of those movies suffered bad plot deviations from the original. So the original anime had bad art, and it's story was convoluted and weird.

Here's an example of fate/stay art:


YuukiismOct 24, 2011 9:06 AM
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Yay Beserker the black knight is coming up next episode, it's gonna be epic!
Oct 24, 2011 10:57 AM

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animation is amazing~ and battle between Saber and Lancer was incredible...
lol, characters are more interesting than in FSN ;d
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And this is why I think Rider is the best servant of this war. Sorry Saber, I love you but Rider is da best.

exactly, Rider is the best and my fav character in this series~
:D
Oct 24, 2011 11:14 AM

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Xawddre said:
Yay Beserker the black knight is coming up next episode, it's gonna be epic!


I would get pissed for this rather obvious spoiler, but the fact is that this actually got me MORE excited for next episode.
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Oct 24, 2011 11:25 AM
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Lancer vs Saber was really enjoyable...
Rider is absolutely great with his way of doing things...:P
Oct 24, 2011 12:01 PM

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As high quality that the fight was between Saber and Lancer, it got pretty boring...
Oct 24, 2011 12:17 PM

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Alexander the Great rulz ^_^
Oct 24, 2011 1:17 PM

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I like how Iskander abruptly joins the battle and tells them his name :3

if only saber replies "I am also a king!" it would be lols.


You don't know how much I wish she had said that!
Oct 24, 2011 1:29 PM

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That fight was amaaaaazing animated!
Gotta love Rider.
Oct 24, 2011 1:30 PM

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this far more surpasses Fate Stay Night in my opinion! xD
Graphics, animation, sound effects etc... really good !
And just gotta love the new Servants Berserker, the new hero type of Lancer, Gilgamesh!!! , Iskander and Saber ofcourse xD
The fight scene's are of an another realm! Blood taking fight scene's! xD
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insan3soldiern said:
Xawddre said:
Yay Beserker the black knight is coming up next episode, it's gonna be epic!


I would get pissed for this rather obvious spoiler, but the fact is that this actually got me MORE excited for next episode.
Next episode is called "Howl of a Mad Beast" plus Kariya's Command Seals were shown in the preview as well. If that isn't enough to clue you or any idiot of which servant will make his appearance next I don't know what else is needed. SO no, no big spoiler there.

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Leon-Gun said:
insan3soldiern said:
Xawddre said:
Yay Beserker the black knight is coming up next episode, it's gonna be epic!


I would get pissed for this rather obvious spoiler, but the fact is that this actually got me MORE excited for next episode.
Next episode is called "Howl of a Mad Beast" plus Kariya's Command Seals were shown in the preview as well. If that isn't enough to clue you or any idiot of which servant will make his appearance next I don't know what else is needed. SO no, no big spoiler there.


it would be huge spoiler and being a jerk if i had said what's going to happen next but nope not gonna do that haha
Oct 24, 2011 2:07 PM

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Leon-Gun said:
insan3soldiern said:
Xawddre said:
Yay Beserker the black knight is coming up next episode, it's gonna be epic!


I would get pissed for this rather obvious spoiler, but the fact is that this actually got me MORE excited for next episode.
Next episode is called "Howl of a Mad Beast" plus Kariya's Command Seals were shown in the preview as well. If that isn't enough to clue you or any idiot of which servant will make his appearance next I don't know what else is needed. SO no, no big spoiler there.



Actually the problem is different kind of...

There's one
Oct 24, 2011 2:20 PM

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Fai said:
Leon-Gun said:
insan3soldiern said:
Xawddre said:
Yay Beserker the black knight is coming up next episode, it's gonna be epic!


I would get pissed for this rather obvious spoiler, but the fact is that this actually got me MORE excited for next episode.
Next episode is called "Howl of a Mad Beast" plus Kariya's Command Seals were shown in the preview as well. If that isn't enough to clue you or any idiot of which servant will make his appearance next I don't know what else is needed. SO no, no big spoiler there.



Actually the problem is different kind of...

There's one


Honestly now..

Oct 24, 2011 2:44 PM

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Fai said:
Actually the problem is different kind of...

There's one


Honestly now..

Is everyone supposed to know who some guy in black armor is? Guess I didn't pay attention in history class.
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I could care less of Beserker's true identity, though it's probably gonna be a big part of the plot who knows

i just like the way he looks

Full black armor with a black aura swirling around and red glowing eyes, you can't say that's not badass looking haha

also if anyone had notice the ending theme, all those scenes are based on actual portraits, sculptures, pictures of those famous figures, it's kinda neat lol
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Found some rather interesting wiki about Lancer's true identity:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fianna
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diarmuid_Ua_Duibhne
is this the Heroic spirit he is to represent IRL?

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Oct 24, 2011 3:56 PM
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Epic episode. Top notch animation and awesome servants.
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stAtic91 said:
Topgunuk69 said:
Fai said:
Actually the problem is different kind of...

There's one


Honestly now..

Is everyone supposed to know who some guy in black armor is? Guess I didn't pay attention in history class.
No not really, there's several "Black Knghts" in old legends including the legend where this one comes from. Berserker is less-known as a "Black Knight" and more known for his "other" title which comes from the circumnstances of his birth and childhood. WHich is why the ED of a knight by a lake is far more of a spoiler than just saying "The Black Knight".

Oct 24, 2011 4:03 PM
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^Exactly, count how many popular history/legend/myth involves a lake and a bunch of knights.... It's kinda really really obvious...
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The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Oct 24, 2011 6:13 PM

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Epic episode. Great fight between Saber and Lancer. :)

Rider is just amazing.
Its impossible not to like him.xD
Oct 24, 2011 9:07 PM

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great animation again.

holy fuck I think Iskander is my favorite. that guy is a badass but cracks me up at the same time. those 2 are fighting to find each others names and he just rides in and announces himself like a true king. fuck yeah Iskander!

Lancer was a pretty cool dude as well.
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bakari said:
"Your as good as naked before my spear." i laughed when i thought of that quote the second time and i know i'm not the only one


Im kinda ashamed that i agreed with you
Oct 25, 2011 6:24 AM

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Matron_Laylie said:
Honestly who cares how the animation quality is... The show is amazing either way. Plus that is kind of a crappy picture of Fate/Zero to use.... But to be fair its animation is amazing.

It's just to show how detailed the animation is... just look at the proportionality of the bodies ...

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great animation again.

holy fuck I think Iskander is my favorite. that guy is a badass but cracks me up at the same time. those 2 are fighting to find each others names and he just rides in and announces himself like a true king. fuck yeah Iskander!

Lancer was a pretty cool dude as well.


I totally agree with you... lol. Iskander should be awarded with a top 50 spot (that's at least) in the MAL's "top favorite character" rankings...
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Oct 25, 2011 9:43 AM

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Avoiding this thread is the best way to watch this show I guess. I wish people should just keep the spoiler to themselves and read the rule one more time.

"THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE."


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Oct 25, 2011 10:17 AM

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Spoiler tags are there for a reason.
Oct 25, 2011 10:35 AM

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Nice episode ones again this Anime doesn't disappoint at all.
Saber's behavior comes more to it's right with Emiya as her master and Iresviel the one who is with her then it did with Shirou.
And i am liking it allot.
Tho i wonder when the other masters will appear.
Oct 25, 2011 9:54 PM

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AMAZING ANIMATION!!!

This was by far the best episode so far, I LOVED everything about it....

I'm finally getting into this anime!!!


(Honestly, I still feel it's inappropriately overhyped)....however I'm definitely seeing that this will be MANY times greater than that piece of shit F/SN Anime.
Oct 25, 2011 11:20 PM

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Lancer used Attract!
It does not affect Saber.

lol Iskandar comes to crash the party! And love how he just announces his name to everyone
Oct 25, 2011 11:30 PM

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JustALEX said:
(Honestly, I still feel it's inappropriately overhyped)...

The irony is astounding

Are you sure you're talking about the same series that was less hyped in Japan than half the stupid shit airing right now? The one that ranked 6th in fall anticipated anime???
Oct 26, 2011 3:07 AM

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Topgunuk69 said:
Spoiler tags are there for a reason.


A four year old could understand this.

Someone, fetch me a four year old.
Oct 26, 2011 3:48 AM
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The masters in F/Z are far much better than the masters in F/SN. The masters in F/Z seem to take the Holy Grail war much more seriously as they plan out their strategies and plans.

Unlike F/SN, the masters are adolescents and seem to not take the war as serious as the ones in F/Z.

This is what I like about F/Z and a reason why its much better than F/SN. IN MY OPINION.
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The masters in F/Z are far much better than the masters in F/SN. The masters in F/Z seem to take the Holy Grail war much more seriously as they plan out their strategies and plans.

Unlike F/SN, the masters are adolescents and seem to not take the war as serious as the ones in F/Z.

This is what I like about F/Z and a reason why its much better than F/SN. IN MY OPINION.
Most of the masters in F/Z had decades to plan for the Grail War. the guys on the 5th due to it happening merely 10 years after the 4th (it's suposed to be every 60 years) were at the best the Teenage children of the traditional family of magi with some knowledge of the war, or at worst random schmucks with almost no powers. That's without mentioning the several number of renegade Servants and the traitorous antagonist. Fate/Zero is exactly how a Grail War is. Fate/Stay Night is the story of the kids affected by the shockwaves of the 4th war.

Oct 26, 2011 4:34 AM

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Leon-Gun said:
. Fate/Stay Night is the story of the kids affected by the shockwaves of the 4th war.


And depending on the individual kids, they get more of the shockwave.



I could make a valid argument Nasu created the Fate series just to show how being Good sucks.
Oct 26, 2011 6:57 AM

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Lauriet said:
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Spoiler tags are there for a reason.


A four year old could understand this.

Someone, fetch me a four year old.
Spoiler tag is there for you put a spoiler that is unrelated to the show that you want to talk about in this thread without spoiling some people who haven't seen or about to see that said show. Was your so-called four year old understand this?


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Oct 26, 2011 7:42 AM

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Leon-Gun said:
Fate/Stay Night is the story of the kids affected by the shockwaves of the 4th war.

And I would not say its about "kids".

Its about them growing up while being affected what happened in 4th heaven's feel.

Heh, FSN VN is pretty much a metaphorical journey about Shirou growing up and the paths he can take as well as how everything that happened in 4th is still affecting everyone. But in essence, FSN VN is Shirou's journey through life starting with emotionless damaged shell of a person to a fucking badass. :)
Oct 26, 2011 7:50 AM

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Fai said:
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Fate/Stay Night is the story of the kids affected by the shockwaves of the 4th war.

And I would not say its about "kids".

Its about them growing up while being affected what happened in 4th heaven's feel.

Heh, FSN VN is pretty much a metaphorical journey about Shirou growing up and the paths he can take as well as how everything that happened in 4th is still affecting everyone. But in essence, FSN VN is Shirou's journey through life starting with emotionless damaged shell of a person to a fucking badass. :)


Why do you always bring up FSN VN in everyone of your posts. Half the people don't give a rats ass about the VN we watched the anime stop comparing shit to it. It is getting annoying and confusing at the same time. This is an anime site not a VN site. While I loved the VN very much it is getting annoying that you keep referencing something a lot of people have not seen please stop confusing people.

that was like the 8th time you have referenced the VN.
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Matron_Laylie said:
Fai said:
Leon-Gun said:
Fate/Stay Night is the story of the kids affected by the shockwaves of the 4th war.

And I would not say its about "kids".

Its about them growing up while being affected what happened in 4th heaven's feel.

Heh, FSN VN is pretty much a metaphorical journey about Shirou growing up and the paths he can take as well as how everything that happened in 4th is still affecting everyone. But in essence, FSN VN is Shirou's journey through life starting with emotionless damaged shell of a person to a fucking badass. :)


Why do you always bring up FSN VN in everyone of your posts. Half the people don't give a rats ass about the VN we watched the anime stop comparing shit to it. It is getting annoying and confusing at the same time. This is an anime site not a VN site. While I loved the VN very much it is getting annoying that you keep referencing something a lot of people have not seen please stop confusing people.

that was like the 8th time you have referenced the VN.


Blame Deen. Also I'm pretty sure that the people who only watched the Fate stay night anime actually care about what the real Fate stay night is about.
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Ragna92 said:
Matron_Laylie said:
Fai said:
Leon-Gun said:
Fate/Stay Night is the story of the kids affected by the shockwaves of the 4th war.

And I would not say its about "kids".

Its about them growing up while being affected what happened in 4th heaven's feel.

Heh, FSN VN is pretty much a metaphorical journey about Shirou growing up and the paths he can take as well as how everything that happened in 4th is still affecting everyone. But in essence, FSN VN is Shirou's journey through life starting with emotionless damaged shell of a person to a fucking badass. :)


Why do you always bring up FSN VN in everyone of your posts. Half the people don't give a rats ass about the VN we watched the anime stop comparing shit to it. It is getting annoying and confusing at the same time. This is an anime site not a VN site. While I loved the VN very much it is getting annoying that you keep referencing something a lot of people have not seen please stop confusing people.

that was like the 8th time you have referenced the VN.


Blame Deen. Also I'm pretty sure that the people who only watched the Fate stay night anime actually care about what the real Fate stay night is about.


I mean not really if you go off just hearing bits and pieces of the VN of FSN than you are going to get confused. Its best to leave it alone or have them do the full research by playing it. Ive already had one friend get confused over simple stuff because of references to the VN.
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Matron_Laylie said:
Fai said:
Leon-Gun said:
Fate/Stay Night is the story of the kids affected by the shockwaves of the 4th war.

And I would not say its about "kids".

Its about them growing up while being affected what happened in 4th heaven's feel.

Heh, FSN VN is pretty much a metaphorical journey about Shirou growing up and the paths he can take as well as how everything that happened in 4th is still affecting everyone. But in essence, FSN VN is Shirou's journey through life starting with emotionless damaged shell of a person to a fucking badass. :)


Why do you always bring up FSN VN in everyone of your posts. Half the people don't give a rats ass about the VN we watched the anime stop comparing shit to it. It is getting annoying and confusing at the same time. This is an anime site not a VN site. While I loved the VN very much it is getting annoying that you keep referencing something a lot of people have not seen please stop confusing people.

that was like the 8th time you have referenced the VN.


1. Because the person I quoted was talking about VN.
2. Because fate/zero anime does NOT count FSN anime as canon and is in VN timeline.
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Fai said:
Matron_Laylie said:
Fai said:
Leon-Gun said:
Fate/Stay Night is the story of the kids affected by the shockwaves of the 4th war.

And I would not say its about "kids".

Its about them growing up while being affected what happened in 4th heaven's feel.

Heh, FSN VN is pretty much a metaphorical journey about Shirou growing up and the paths he can take as well as how everything that happened in 4th is still affecting everyone. But in essence, FSN VN is Shirou's journey through life starting with emotionless damaged shell of a person to a fucking badass. :)


Why do you always bring up FSN VN in everyone of your posts. Half the people don't give a rats ass about the VN we watched the anime stop comparing shit to it. It is getting annoying and confusing at the same time. This is an anime site not a VN site. While I loved the VN very much it is getting annoying that you keep referencing something a lot of people have not seen please stop confusing people.

that was like the 8th time you have referenced the VN.


1. Because the person I quoted was talking about VN.
2. Because fate/zero anime does NOT count FSN anime as canon and is in VN timeline.


1. I am not talking about only that post you have brought it up all by itself
2. My friend got so confused on one of your posts that he watched the whole FSN over again thinking something wrong.
3. I wasn't saying it to be a dick I was just saying that referencing the VN confuses people. Yes I could have worded it nicer but thats just me.
4. I loved the VN but referencing it and FSN in Fate/Zero discussion isn't always the best since some people may not have seen FSN yet.
5. I feel like this is going to just get into a flame war which was not my intention so I will stop from posting on this thread.
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Fai said:


1. Because the person I quoted was talking about VN.
2. Because fate/zero anime does NOT count FSN anime as canon and is in VN timeline.
I agree, while I understand the "this is an anime site" argument, Fate/Zero doesn't give a rat's ass about the DEEN adaptation. Fate/Zero is a prequel to the VN and proof of that are the many references to events and explanations you only discover in the VN. Just look at Sakura and Kariya's tale for an example.

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Leon-Gun said:
Fai said:


1. Because the person I quoted was talking about VN.
2. Because fate/zero anime does NOT count FSN anime as canon and is in VN timeline.
I agree, while I understand the "this is an anime site" argument, Fate/Zero doesn't give a rat's ass about the DEEN adaptation. Fate/Zero is a prequel to the VN and proof of that are the many references to events and explanations you only discover in the VN. Just look at Sakura and Kariya's tale for an example.


Unless Zouken puts Loli-Sakura into latex bondage suit at some point of Fate/0, I think its pretty safe to say that DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN's "adaptation" of FSN does not matter entirely to F/0, nor to nasuverse canon.
Oct 26, 2011 8:31 AM

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Really, leave the stupid VN for another topic, we are discussing fate/zero here, not fate stay/night or whatever .

new images of episode 5

Oct 26, 2011 8:47 AM

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Holy shit, going by those images from episode 5, this is going to be the best episode I've ever seen in my life.
Oct 26, 2011 10:19 AM

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Lauriet said:
Topgunuk69 said:
Spoiler tags are there for a reason.


A four year old could understand this.

Someone, fetch me a four year old.
Spoiler tag is there for you put a spoiler that is unrelated to the show that you want to talk about in this thread without spoiling some people who haven't seen or about to see that said show. Was your so-called four year old understand this?


Spoiler tags are for spoilers, any spoilers.

Are you seriously suggesting that we can use spoiler tags to discuss shows completely unrelated to Fate/Zero in Fate/Zero threads but we can't use spoiler tags to discuss Fate/Zero itself?

People who haven't read the Fate/Zero novel or played the Fate/Stay Night Visual Novel are free to speculate pointlessly about stuff that is already established elsewhere but those who have read them have every right to discuss this show in the context of someone who knows what's going to happen if they use spoiler tags.

I could understand your complaints if someone was blurting out spoilers without spoiler tags but they aren't.

And on top of all this the thing we were talking about was something I worked out for myself based on information from the second episode before I'd even read the Novel, it could've passed for speculation if this weren't an adaptation.
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Great images :D

Where is my BASAKAH! Dam Ufotable keeping berserker till sat :(
Oct 26, 2011 11:08 AM

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Topgunuk69 said:
Are you seriously suggesting that we can use spoiler tags to discuss shows completely unrelated to Fate/Zero in Fate/Zero threads but we can't use spoiler tags to discuss Fate/Zero itself?
You get me wrong there Sir. I never said you could discuss about unrelated thread show. What I mean was for example, some people has some retard reason to compare and talk about Code Geass in Guilty Crown thread and that is what spoiler tags are for because some people might not want to learn about Zero was actually XXXXXX.

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...but those who have read them have every right to discuss this show in the context of someone who knows what's going to happen if they use spoiler tags.
NO, READ THE FREAKING DAMN RULE PLEASE!
"THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE."
If those people want to discuss about whatever beyond this episode please go here: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?mangaid=3649
That is the right place and they don't EVER need to put spoiler tag either. You see MAL is a great place and that's why you don't come to drink tea in a night club here. It looks stupid, doesn't it?

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And on top of all this the thing we were talking about was something I worked out for myself based on information from the second episode before I'd even read the Novel, it could've passed for speculation if this weren't an adaptation.
Read your own comment down here.
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Spoiler tags are for spoilers, any spoilers.
Understand? Spoiler tag are for spoilers, NOT FOR SPECULATION! And that is why we can't have discussion here because people putting Spoiler Tag everywhere and I don't know which one is spoiler or speculation, and I don't want to find out which one is a trap either. Now you get it and I really hope so because I don't want to call a four year old to repeat my statement.
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