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Jul 29, 2011 10:26 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Seeing Himea tentacle raped as follows,

was just so fun. For once it was fun to see her like that, especially since she was possessed and all the fun stuff done to Taito although I am sure he did not like that at all.

Gekkou as follows,

as great for being shown young and the initial time that he grabbed the sword.

Top action in this one. Top excitement for me in this one. In thee end we are left with a Haruka that is different and the split Haruka arc may come in. There is also the fact that Himea may never be herself anymore, just saying it. More later.
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Jul 29, 2011 11:03 AM
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I'll just throw this out there, that I like Himea as a character. I know others don't really like her but she's grown on me (even though she talked about killing all humans in the preview this episode).

Haruka becoming more relevant should be good imo. Now she won't lay on her bed worrying about the next bento she should make for Taito.

Also, Taito was a real man in this episode going all out at the end there to get Himea back.
Jul 29, 2011 11:27 AM
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I should stop complaining about the differences already. They're clearly not going to make a faithful adaption anyway.
Because said differences are like, everywhere. It'd be a bother stating all of them.
Okay, time to look at it out of an original viewpoint instead.

Durr, Gekkou goes to the red moon. I didn't know he was an astronaut.
He is a genius though, so an astronaut might not be too far-fetched. ( ¬‿¬)
Suddenly, tentacles. I did not see that one coming.
And even more suddenly, Bahlskra enters the stage. And Taito goes Captain Obvious, stating that it isn't Himea.
Oho, I didn't know Taito's wounds healed without expending a life. Because he's clearly died 7 times. And then he's smart enough to jump through the window out into the red rain that's already killed him a couple of times.
Taito, your brains impress me. Well, unless those 15 minutes passed at a very appropriate time.
And so, Haruka's yellow Alpha Stigma awakens. ( ¬‿¬)

On another note, the episodes should be longer. Or there should be more of them.
They're definitely cramming too much into each episode, inevitably rushing it.

...Fuck yeah, the ED's back <3
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Jul 29, 2011 1:07 PM
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I find it quite unsavory, save for a far more appropriate word choice, but... seriously, what IS it with these guys and tentacles? o__O

They went after Mirai in the 1st episode and now they had to go after Himea in the 4th. May I assume that Haruka will be the next innocent victim of some perverted entanglement?

Protip, ZEXCS: I do not, nor will I ever wish to know just how much hentai you people watch that you can't help but bring it into your anime adaptions, but do try to keep in mind the young and innocent viewers out there. And, perhaps just as relevant, I give you my congratulations in that silly antics such as yours actually make me relieved that Bill 156 was passed. Be proud of yourselves. ;D

Only solid point of this episode? Our beloved 1st ending is back, and thus it should stay that way.
Jul 29, 2011 1:35 PM
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Some crazy shit going on this episode. Going to have to rewatch with subs to get a better understanding. Haruka looks to have a big part soon.
Jul 29, 2011 2:27 PM
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We don't know much about Haruka past that she help Taito, but the Haruka we know is obiously in love with Taito.
But when Taito remember Himea he don't care so much about her.

We saw many Himea there so probably that's true Himea that are awaking right now, don't really know what is going on.
She kind of destroying the one that are taking over her body.
That are actually kind one that want to help her only, maybe that's the reason she changed a bit but I dunno lol.

Maybe I should take a look into manga.

The truet is that Himea really love him and want to do anything to make them together.

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Jul 29, 2011 6:09 PM
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i've been wondering about the translations with this anime.
How does "itsuka tenma no kuro usagi" translate into "a dark rabbit has seven lives"?-i can understand the dark rabbit part but "has seven lives" doesnt make sense to me.

Also how does Tenma translate into "seraphim"? -i know that "Tenma" means demon and that the "tenma" in this story is a special existence, but why "seraphim"

And like oosran i dont want to be wasting my time pointing out every single difference cuz im pretty sure that most of the people here know that Zexcs definitely fk'd this one up.

Decent ep,though not good enough.
It still feels Rushed. They way zexcs progressed it,it didnt have enough impact as the LN/ Manga did.Haruka looks like she either has a split personalty or is being possesed like Himea was.

and finally,

TENTACLES!? REALLY ZEXCS!? TENTACLES!?
For anyone interested in a better story.I suggest you read either the LN or manga.
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Jul 29, 2011 6:25 PM
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...so what's happening in this anime?
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Jul 29, 2011 6:47 PM
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Ok it's official this anime really reminds me of Fate/Stay Night. Although the way they have transitioned through the story so far feels a little too rushed to me.
Jul 29, 2011 7:26 PM

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Oh YES!! The ending!! [did help to decrease my heavy sigh after watching the episode]

Taito's love for Himea must have saved him in the bloody rain near the end. And it took 15 minutes for ba'alskra or w/e to find him? Are you fucking kidding me -_-'

So how is ba'alskra a dude? Weren't his boobs censored with his hair? lol.

And 'I love you' saves the day huh. Power Puff Girls needs to know of this trick.
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TMultimate said:
i've been wondering about the translations with this anime.
How does "itsuka tenma no kuro usagi" translate into "a dark rabbit has seven lives"?-i can understand the dark rabbit part but "has seven lives" doesnt make sense to me.


It doesn't translate into "A Dark Rabbit has Seven Lives" at all. That was just something that was made up since the literal translation of "Itsuka Tenma no Kuro Usagi," roughly means "Everyday/Someday Tenma's Black Rabbit" So... yeah, you can see how that probably would've had a few eyebrows arching trying to make that one out, hence the current Americanized title.
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TMultimate said:
i've been wondering about the translations with this anime.
How does "itsuka tenma no kuro usagi" translate into "a dark rabbit has seven lives"?-i can understand the dark rabbit part but "has seven lives" doesnt make sense to me.

Also how does Tenma translate into "seraphim"? -i know that "Tenma" means demon and that the "tenma" in this story is a special existence, but why "seraphim"

And like oosran i dont want to be wasting my time pointing out every single difference cuz im pretty sure that most of the people here know that Zexcs definitely fk'd this one up.
the translation wiii always fail if its official hince why americans should never taint jap anime with their bullshit
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ShinnKamiyra said:

And, perhaps just as relevant, I give you my congratulations in that silly antics such as yours actually make me relieved that Bill 156 was passed. Be proud of yourselves. ;D



lol that bill had me start ranting to the point of getting banned from 4chan and MAL and that makes me one of hte few that have managed to get banned from the first so you can imagine how bad it was
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I started losing my faith in the show when I saw those tentacles. I think the tentacles thing has been overused so much, but when they showed Haruka at the end, it got me interested more.

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Can someone tell me about Haruka past???
Jul 29, 2011 10:51 PM

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This episode was OK, but not excellent. So Himea was possessed by a jealous guy with magic powers and Taito tried to save her. I am a bit annoyed by Taito's helplessness. Why did such a strong girl as Himea choose such a weak guy like Taito? She would even give up her immortality for this weakling. And I find the lovey-dovey relationship between Himea and Taito a bit annoying.
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Oosran said:
And so, Haruka's yellow Alpha Stigma awakens. ( ¬‿¬)
Alpah Stigma! That was amazing in Legend of LEngendary HEroes. Got to ocntinue seeingf that in BD.
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And like oosran i dont want to be wasting my time pointing out every single difference cuz im pretty sure that most of the people here know that Zexcs definitely fk'd this one up.
And I would like to know how they fucked up? What are the major mistakes it did so far. Yes, I might be lazy to read the LN so I would like a brief of it.

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Jul 30, 2011 1:17 AM

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The plot thickens...

With several more powerful characters showing up (and Haruko revealed to be much more than a childhood friend) this is becoming more interesting. I will definitely have to track down the LN in translation (or accelerate my language studies) to read the source material.

It also looks like Himea made a considerable sacrifice to "curse" Taito with immortality.
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This episode... Just this episode... Extremely retarded. Definetly not good. That's all I'm gonna say.
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i wonder what happend to haruka why her eyes become suddenly yellow?
Jul 30, 2011 7:24 AM
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I started losing my faith in the show when I saw those tentacles. I think the tentacles thing has been overused so much, but when they showed Haruka at the end, it got me interested more.


Agreed, though I'd argue that the fact in that they used them at all did nothing for their credit. I mean, really... why would you get off on watching something like this?



No personal insults intended, but anyone who would has quite the taste in amusement, I'll give them that, but let's try to have some higher standards than that, shall we? I mean, finding enjoyment in watching pain and suffering? It's a slippery slope, my friends, and it's not something to be dismissed just because it's an anime.

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This episode... Just this episode... Extremely retarded. Definitely not good. That's all I'm gonna say.


Curiously, what is it you think should be done to fix this? As we've been discussing for several weeks now, the anime has had quite a number of problems and they only seem to be growing as time goes on.

I'd like to pose a question, to all of you. Over the years, we've seen a number of anime remade, anime such as "Full Metal Alchemist," "Shuffle!", "Shinkyoku Soukai Polyphonica", "Dragon Ball Z," etc.

If there was a chance to see Itsu-Ten remade into the anime many of you believe it should be, would you support those efforts?
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I'd like to pose a question, to all of you. Over the years, we've seen a number of anime remade, anime such as "Full Metal Alchemist," "Shuffle!", "Shinkyoku Soukai Polyphonica", "Dragon Ball Z," etc.

If there was a chance to see Itsu-Ten remade into the anime many of you believe it should be, would you support those efforts?
I guess I would. Probably. If my economy would be backing me up.
Just like I'm supporting the prospects of a possible adaption of DaiDenYuuDen by being among the few in the world buying those BDs.

I mean, sure, I'd pitch in with some coin if I could have a proper adaption of Itsuten.
Assuming, of course, that I fully understood the question at hand. ( ¬‿¬)
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I guess I would. Probably. If my economy would be backing me up.
Just like I'm supporting the prospects of a possible adaption of DaiDenYuuDen by being among the few in the world buying those BDs.

I mean, sure, I'd pitch in with some coin if I could have a proper adaption of Itsuten.
Assuming, of course, that I fully understood the question at hand. ( ¬‿¬)


I'm appreciative that you would donate what you could if it came to it, but for the moment at least, let's set aside any discussions of money.

The kind of support I'm more interested in hearing about right now is if you, all of you, would be there to let your voice be heard when, and if, the time came to those that matter to see if Itsu-Ten could be remade. Whether by e-mail, poll, telephone call, or even just continuing to participate in discussions such as this, would you be willing to lend your support in this way?
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^Practically free, and with hardly any :effort: at all, so of course.
Though that's just me.
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If Tsukihime hasnt had a remake that people are clearly wanting, then a remake of this is impossible. Just sayin'.

Lost my interest in the middle part. I'm kinda close to dropping this. Will hold on for a bit longer.
The part with Haruka there might save this though I doubt it.
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Why do they talk so much D:, why in the living hell does he talk so much when the enemy can blow his brains before he can even speak, 1 more episode till i drop this clique anime.
The only good thing i found about this anime so far was the ED song by Shikata Akiko.
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If Tsukihime hasnt had a remake that people are clearly wanting, then a remake of this is impossible. Just sayin'.

Lost my interest in the middle part. I'm kinda close to dropping this. Will hold on for a bit longer.
The part with Haruka there might save this though I doubt it.


-Grins- But you've got to be persistent if you ever want to get anything out of life.

If you just give up and let things stay as they are, then nothing will change and you'll be right. I'm not saying you can't do that... but are you really going to be satisfied with something like that?

If Tsukihime's fans just give up on wanting to see an anime remake, then that just means they reached their limits and didn't have what it took to see it through to the end in the first place.

For the moment, I'm not saying whether something like this should be pursued or not. That's why I want to know everyone's thoughts on the matter and see what they think about it.
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Oosran said:
ShinnKamiyra said:
I'd like to pose a question, to all of you. Over the years, we've seen a number of anime remade, anime such as "Full Metal Alchemist," "Shuffle!", "Shinkyoku Soukai Polyphonica", "Dragon Ball Z," etc.

If there was a chance to see Itsu-Ten remade into the anime many of you believe it should be, would you support those efforts?
I guess I would. Probably. If my economy would be backing me up.
Just like I'm supporting the prospects of a possible adaption of DaiDenYuuDen by being among the few in the world buying those BDs.

I mean, sure, I'd pitch in with some coin if I could have a proper adaption of Itsuten.
Assuming, of course, that I fully understood the question at hand. ( ¬‿¬)
I think the efforts are good but like Oosran I am totally not for ecchi of this series. I would totally adore the BDs for their quality but since most of that is restricted with ecchi parts, that do not have any deeming value other than exciting our libido, seems the quality story wise is sucky. Well that's my IMO. BDs that are worth it like are like Akira. Now that is nice!

Back to this topic. The mirror world in the spoiler
was what most impressed me visually this episode.

However those Himea clones in the spoiler
OMG I could not stand it well there. As a anti-Himea, that was the case.

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yellow alpha stigma, rofl, that was a good one!

for those bewildered by the incomprehensible development, and greatly baffled and feel dissatisfied from all that, at least you are paying attention to some of the things said and shown in the anime.

for those who are finding this a cliche story, even though I agree the anime sucks except for the action and bgms and songs, but obviously, you are not paying attention to anything, or are just too lazy to ask questions. or you may not really understand what the word 'cliche' means. in that case, you're better off watching some brainless moe or brainless action that requires no thinking at all. so stop watching it already. I'm totally fine with any complaint thrown except for the word 'cliche' when it's far from that.

in either case however, if you are too lazy to read the light novels to find out even though there is an English translation for it, it's also fine but it's simply your loss. Kagami is godly in epic fantasy writing. Period. 身の程を知れ!地ぺたを這いずる雑魚ども!
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I think the efforts are good but like Oosran I am totally not for ecchi of this series. I would totally adore the BDs for their quality but since most of that is restricted with ecchi parts, that do not have any deeming value other than exciting our libido, seems the quality story wise is sucky. Well that's my IMO. BDs that are worth it like are like Akira. Now that is nice!

Back to this topic. The mirror world in the spoiler
was what most impressed me visually this episode.

However those Himea clones in the spoiler
OMG I could not stand it well there. As a anti-Himea, that was the case.


With respect to your comments about the ecchi for this series, I agree with you completely. Neither the light novel nor the manga have any such things in them, and that's part of the reason why I'm such a fan of them.

I understand the need for a bit of fan service here and there, but you've got to do it within reason that adheres to some respectable standards.

Bearing this in mind, it would be my position that any Itsu-Ten remake would have to be carried out by another anime producer, certainly not ZEXCS. To me, they've proved that they don't have what it takes to portray the story in the way it's meant to be told.

Anyone disagree with that?
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ShinnKamiyra said:
Yumekichi11 said:
I think the efforts are good but like Oosran I am totally not for ecchi of this series. I would totally adore the BDs for their quality but since most of that is restricted with ecchi parts, that do not have any deeming value other than exciting our libido, seems the quality story wise is sucky. Well that's my IMO. BDs that are worth it like are like Akira. Now that is nice!

Back to this topic. The mirror world in the spoiler
was what most impressed me visually this episode.

However those Himea clones in the spoiler
OMG I could not stand it well there. As a anti-Himea, that was the case.


With respect to your comments about the ecchi for this series, I agree with you completely. Neither the light novel nor the manga have any such things in them, and that's part of the reason why I'm such a fan of them.

I understand the need for a bit of fan service here and there, but you've got to do it within reason that adheres to some respectable standards.

Bearing this in mind, it would be my position that any Itsu-Ten remake would have to be carried out by another anime producer, certainly not ZEXCS. To me, they've proved that they don't have what it takes to portray the story in the way it's meant to be told.

Anyone disagree with that?
I would just add that the studio who made Katanagatari would have been a good candidate for this. At least that studio made a good story in that anime.

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i've been wondering about the translations with this anime.
How does "itsuka tenma no kuro usagi" translate into "a dark rabbit has seven lives"?-i can understand the dark rabbit part but "has seven lives" doesnt make sense to me.


It doesn't translate into "A Dark Rabbit has Seven Lives" at all. That was just something that was made up since the literal translation of "Itsuka Tenma no Kuro Usagi," roughly means "Everyday/Someday Tenma's Black Rabbit" So... yeah, you can see how that probably would've had a few eyebrows arching trying to make that one out, hence the current Americanized title.


Well, don't dwell on it, it's just one of those stupid titles that makes no sense.
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with regards to fan-service in the Itsuten novel, there are occasional fan service scenes, though you have to read it in words.

with regards to a remake of the anime, it's pretty much impossible. the first question to ask is "any money to be made from it?", and I doubt the answer is yes. even if it's possible to make money it's just too risky. and judging from all the Fujimi Shobou's LN adaptations to date, their direction seems to be more focused on getting people to buy the LNs, and not having a faithful adaptation to source material. unlike Dengeki Bunko and MediaFactory, which have quite a few relatively "true" adaptations.

oh yes, w.r.t. to FMA, there's a pretty special reason behind it, because in the 1st version, Arakawa the author had wanted to studio to diverge from his story (which was up to 6 or 7 volumes when the anime started). he she had never intended for the anime to be the same as his her manga. a second version was never expected nor planned. though apparently the success of the manga and the amount of content left un-adapted has prompted another anime proposal (though I'm not sure from who, it's probably from Bones themselves), as usually, anime proposals come from the studios, not the publisher, at least for manga, ie.
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Hmmm ... I drop Penguindrum after the worst episode of anything I've seen in months, and I come to the forum to find everyone gushing over it.

I sit down to watch another enjoyable episode of Black Rabbit, to wash the taste of Utena-shit out of my mouth, and find the forum up in arms because some tentacles showed up. Go fig.

Really guys? It wasn't even that much of a tentacle thing, it was a shapeless mass made from some glowing blood-like substance. If I had to guess, Himea made a homunculus out of her own blood while she was trapped in her ethereal torture chamber, and the 'tentacles' were pseudopods.

I liked this episode, quite a bit in fact. Yeah, I saw Taito deciding to turn around and save Himea by talking her down a mile away, but it was still pretty touching when we found out the circumstances behind Ba'al's obsession. He couldn't help but be obsessed, he was created solely for Himea's benefit. Small wonder she gets jealous so easily, if that's the kind of attention she's used to.

So Haruka's possessed now ... or maybe has always been. The voices at the end (Seraphim?) were saying how they created her for a purpose, so either she's possessed by an angelic being or there's a lot more to Haruka than meets the eye.

4/5
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I sit down to watch another enjoyable episode of Black Rabbit, to wash the taste of Utena-shit out of my mouth, and find the forum up in arms because some tentacles showed up. Go fig.

Hey, I'm enjoying the show. I haven't read the LN but I don't think it would change the fact that I like the anime version. I thought Macross II was the best Macross after only seeing that and plus. I saw the other ones and while I don't think it's the best I didn't shun the show.
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Am I the only one who thought the episode was good? Maybe it's because I never read the manga.

I thought the last part was funny

"Make love to me Taito"

Hmmm ... I drop Penguindrum after the worst episode of anything I've seen in months


Seriously? Was it really that bad? I thought it the last episode was funny.
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I'm gonna have to rewatch this. I was literally so tired that I couldn't stay up whenever they would stay silent for like 10 seconds. >>
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I would just add that the studio who made Katanagatari would have been a good candidate for this. At least that studio made a good story in that anime.


A relatively new studio called White Fox did Katanagatari, apparently. Other than that, the only other works they’ve done have been “Tears to Tiara” and “Stein’s Gate”. They may be a relatively new studio, but their work on Katanagatari was simply splendid. Such would be the kind of studio I’d want to be working on Itsu-Ten, indeed.

Good recommendation and perhaps something to keep in mind.

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with regards to fan-service in the Itsuten novel, there are occasional fan service scenes, though you have to read it in words.

with regards to a remake of the anime, it's pretty much impossible. the first question to ask is "any money to be made from it?", and I doubt the answer is yes. even if it's possible to make money it's just too risky. and judging from all the Fujimi Shobou's LN adaptations to date, their direction seems to be more focused on getting people to buy the LNs, and not having a faithful adaptation to source material. unlike Dengeki Bunko and MediaFactory, which have quite a few relatively "true" adaptations.


Again with this “impossible” talk. Seems to be quite popular.

I firmly believe that for every problem, there is a solution so long as one is willing to look long and hard enough.

With respect to your comment on the matter of making money, as I’ve said, I don’t feel we need to be talking about such things when we’re just seeing how people feel about the idea itself. However, to have it out there, I believe fans can accomplish quite a bit if we pool our resources and strengths together. I myself have been quite fortunate in these difficult economic times, so I’d be willing to pour some sizeable funds of my own towards this endeavor if it came down to it.

As I said though, let’s save the details of such talk for a later time, if and when we come to it.

Regarding what you said about Fujimi Shobou and their focus on getting people to buy the LNs, I see more of an angle at which to negotiate with them rather than a problem.

As your reply has brought up, this isn’t something that can be accomplished simply by fans uniting together and calling out for a remake, although that isn’t to say that still isn’t an important part of it. Given the circumstances as they stand, we would need to look at it from a business perspective and deal with these people in such a way that remaking Itsu-Ten would not just be in our interests, but in theirs as well. Still, as with the matter of money, these are all things that are best saved for later and don’t need to be weighing on our minds right now.
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I'll just throw this out there, that I like Himea as a character. I know others don't really like her but she's grown on me (even though she talked about killing all humans in the preview this episode).

^This. Well actually i liked her since the first episode because she kept calling "Taito" and you can really feel how much she loves him just from that and theres also the fact that i like female characters that loves the protagonist deeply.
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this anime takes itself too seriously, i can only watch it as a comedy with japanese comments scrolling along the video.
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Chinonozu said:
this anime takes itself too seriously, i can only watch it as a comedy with japanese comments scrolling along the video.


Curiously, do you understand what they're saying? What sort of comments are we talking about?
ShinnKamiyraJul 31, 2011 7:28 AM
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The episode wasn't terrible, but it wasn't enjoyable either. Had a tough time watching Taito there. He probably could've (and should've) been killed a couple more times while he was blabbering. I wasn't too bothered by the tentacles, but reading that it wasn't in the source material left my baffled. Then why the hell add that in? Bad decision there. The part at the end with Haruka was interesting though. Makes me question her feelings for Taito a bit.
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this didn't make any sense. for someone so powerful Himea never really does anything. wtf was Bahlskra? where did Gekkou go? I just don't know...

maybe Haruka isn't just the normal girl without a chance but I really wish this would pick up and make some sense.
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I'm enjoying this but I bet it would have been better as 24 episodes from the little bit of the LN I read. Taito needs some sort of power up so he doesn't have to die 6 times before he gets stuff done well at least he isn't spineless.

I'm going to end up reading the LN after this finishes just to see the differences.
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ReaperCreeper said:
Ok it's official this anime really reminds me of Fate/Stay Night. Although the way they have transitioned through the story so far feels a little too rushed to me.

A number of things come to me when I think of fate/stay night. Rushed isn't one of them. Please don't make such a untrue comparison.

I will admit that this pales compared to the light novel. At least the novel had me interested up until the last chapter of the first novel which ended in such a stereotypical fashion that it stopped me reading any further.It's not as if the novel was a masterpiece or anything(In fact I would class it as decent) but the anime adaptation is abysmal.

"I always take life with a grain of salt, ...plus a slice of lemon, ...and a shot of tequila."

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AidanAK47 said:
A number of things come to me when I think of fate/stay night. Rushed isn't one of them. Please don't make such a untrue comparison.

I will admit that this pales compared to the light novel. At least the novel had me interested up until the last chapter of the first novel which ended in such a stereotypical fashion that it stopped me reading any further.It's not as if the novel was a masterpiece or anything(In fact I would class it as decent) but the anime adaptation is abysmal.


It's certainly your choice if you don't wish to continue, but to be fair, the first volume is best described as merely the prologue to the beginning of the story. You'd need to read, at least, four or five volumes in to start to have a real grasp of what's going on, both in terms of characterization and the overall story.

So, much in the same way as you don't like others to make biased judgments of Fate/Stay Night, please don't do the same for Itsu-Ten as I don't believe you've read enough to make a comprehensive call on it, "decent" or otherwise.
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AidanAK47 said:
ReaperCreeper said:
Ok it's official this anime really reminds me of Fate/Stay Night. Although the way they have transitioned through the story so far feels a little too rushed to me.

A number of things come to me when I think of fate/stay night. Rushed isn't one of them. Please don't make such a untrue comparison.

I will admit that this pales compared to the light novel. At least the novel had me interested up until the last chapter of the first novel which ended in such a stereotypical fashion that it stopped me reading any further.It's not as if the novel was a masterpiece or anything(In fact I would class it as decent) but the anime adaptation is abysmal.


well, it's nice to know that you think the anime is shit, though right now, I don't have any negative thoughts towards the anime anymore (ok, I'm lying a little, but bear with me) ^_^

though, with regards to the novel, allow me to voice out my humble comments (geez, I just read a bunch of japanese correspondence, so I'm in kind of super polite mode now ^_^)

by the last chapter do you mean the afterword, which the author tells you what volume 1 is for? perhaps, you might want to read that before making a judgement in case you haven't.

it's not a masterpiece.... hmm, if I may ask, what LNs are you comparing against, and with regards to which aspects (characterization, story, creativity, emotion, romance, etc.)? if I may ask, how many LNs have you read? just asking, no offense meant. I actually read a good many LNs. and IMHO, if we're talking about fantasies, there are not that many good fantasies around. in terms of EPIC fantasies, really very FEW, I'd say. Epic really means epic, and not narrow fantasies like SAO or Rental Magica (even though RM spans a wide range of concepts but still narrow if we consider scale and by the way I really love RM, one of the best and most underrated LNs of all times, but that's another story), just for your information ^_^

Oh btw, the first 4 volumes, rather than the 1st volume, makes up the prologue, well, though some will disagree with me and say that the first 6 volumes make up the prologue LOL (which means only 2 volumes of real story to date double LOL). either way, that's short considering that the author had written a prologue of 11 volumes of Denyuuden (22 to be exact considering backstories and side stories; I won't count Shinyuuden since it's written after Daiden despite its earlier time setting) to set the stage for Daiden. But like I said earlier, Kagami is God in EPIC fantasies. Epic here refers to 'Large Scale'. Which means its scale and concepts are so large and humongous that your mind would be mind-f*cked (not in the mystery or suspense manner but in how mindblowingly large things are) many times over. Though it has yet to reach the Denyuuden level because of the relatively less volumes. The fact that it takes multiple volumes to set up the beginning of the story just shows how much true Epic potential it has. It's better to split the prologue into multiple volumes than have thousand-page light novels like "Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon" (another infamously epic work), won't you agree? Of course the series has its own weakness, but story and characterization would not be those. :)

thanks for reading my long rant =)
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larethian said:
well, it's nice to know that you think the anime is shit, though right now, I don't have any negative thoughts towards the anime anymore (ok, I'm lying a little, but bear with me) ^_^

though, with regards to the novel, allow me to voice out my humble comments (geez, I just read a bunch of japanese correspondence, so I'm in kind of super polite mode now ^_^)

by the last chapter do you mean the afterword, which the author tells you what volume 1 is for? perhaps, you might want to read that before making a judgement in case you haven't.

it's not a masterpiece.... hmm, if I may ask, what LNs are you comparing against, and with regards to which aspects (characterization, story, creativity, emotion, romance, etc.)? if I may ask, how many LNs have you read? just asking, no offense meant. I actually read a good many LNs. and IMHO, if we're talking about fantasies, there are not that many good fantasies around. in terms of EPIC fantasies, really very FEW, I'd say. Epic really means epic, and not narrow fantasies like SAO or Rental Magica (even though RM spans a wide range of concepts but still narrow if we consider scale and by the way I really love RM, one of the best and most underrated LNs of all times, but that's another story), just for your information ^_^

Oh btw, the first 4 volumes, rather than the 1st volume, makes up the prologue, well, though some will disagree with me and say that the first 6 volumes make up the prologue LOL (which means only 2 volumes of real story to date double LOL). either way, that's short considering that the author had written a prologue of 11 volumes of Denyuuden (22 to be exact considering backstories and side stories; I won't count Shinyuuden since it's written after Daiden despite its earlier time setting) to set the stage for Daiden. But like I said earlier, Kagami is God in EPIC fantasies. Epic here refers to 'Large Scale'. Which means its scale and concepts are so large and humongous that your mind would be mind-f*cked (not in the mystery or suspense manner but in how mindblowingly large things are) many times over. Though it has yet to reach the Denyuuden level because of the relatively less volumes. The fact that it takes multiple volumes to set up the beginning of the story just shows how much true Epic potential it has. It's better to split the prologue into multiple volumes than have thousand-page light novels like "Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon" (another infamously epic work), won't you agree? Of course the series has its own weakness, but story and characterization would not be those. :)

thanks for reading my long rant =)


Yeah, what this guy said too. ;D

Still, four or six volumes to make up just the prologue, huh? Chalk it up to my inexperience for never having heard of such a thing before.

My apologies for having underestimated you to such a degree, Kagami. Your awesomeness is greater than I had imagined.
ShinnKamiyraAug 1, 2011 11:16 AM
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.......gekkou got like a 5 minutes screentime D:
okay truthfully i have mixed feelings about this episode, I like that rena haruka is gonna play a bigger role and the censoring with the splattered blood thing instead of something ridiculous like the sunlight >_>
i didnt like how the only thing bahlskra did was torture taito and murdered him essentially 9 times ish and then left by the power of love .__.; not to mention himea goes all lovey dovey at the end asking taito to hug him (Derp says do me but she said daite so ill just use hug LOL)
i find the previews in this anime to be quite uninformative LOL

Edit: woops misplaced the slash LOL
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"Do me." You go, girl! 8D
Oho, so Haruka isn't just some ordinary girl eh? Not that I dislike Himea, but I'm still rooting for her.
Once the LN translation has progressed far enough, I'll go read that for the "full experience". We'll see what they have in store for the anime. Still kinda so-so at the moment.

Also fuck yeah tentacles. :>
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