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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Wow! I did not expect that! Go, Lizzie!! |
| Ha! And I was wondering how it was possible for her family to be such strong people, yet she be so ditzy. I hope all the Lizzie-haters get to see this. |
| As expected form Midford family.. I knew Lizzie would turn out be like that. |
| “My antics are works of art.” ~ Hermann Fegelein |
| Wow Lizzie! I will admit I am impressed |
 Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
| Holy Cow! My interest in Kuroshitsuji just returned after a period of boredom during these past few arcs. That was the best development we have had in a long long time. GO Lizzie!!! I especially liked her last line, I will definitely remember it every time I think of Kuroshitsuji. For a moment there I though that she might actually die, which would have also unleashed other interesting possibilities but this I think is far better. I just hope that we get to see more of her in this state in the future! |
| Lizzie is just wow. where did her swords come from? O_o |
| Lizzie: "Who is he?!" Sebastian: "He's just a pervert. I'm afraid it might be contagious, so please step back and stay away from him." /i loled/ oh wow. +200 points for Lizzie! O_O |
| Oh wow that chapter was amazing!! Lizzie is awesome! I never expected this turn of events. Although now that I think about it I probably should've guessed because of her family. I honestly started dreading that she might die and then POW! XD These two chapters have been great. I really don't mind that we had to wait two months any more because they have certainly made up for it. Also, lol at Grell accidentally cutting through the wall so that the water burst through into his face. XD |
| I've always quite liked Lizzie but this makes her so much more awesome & badass 8D I love women who can kick ass C: I really wonder where the hell those zombies came from exactly, I'm sure a surprise is waiting for us. And I bet Ciel's coughing will get worse later and maybe create a twist? Who knows what Yana is plotting :D I loved this chapter! <3 |
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| Lizzie turned badass??? I kinda like that :) But Grell still remains the best. |
| Woot, Lizzie. I'm starting to like her. |
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| YESSSS. I've loved Lizzy from the start, and I've been hoping and hoping that she'll get a bigger role in the story and get to do something awesome. I'm unbelievably happy that my hope actually came true! Thank you, Toboso Yana! I'm glad to see some of the Lizzy-haters are starting to change their minds. Go, Lizzy, go! |
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| Where in the world are you all reading this chapter? I've only come across 56. Edit: Never mind. Found it! *Squees* Grell finally got to see his "Sebas-chan" again!!! I loved the reactions and Lizzy's, "Who is he" and Sebastian describing Grell as a perv. Now, to the important stuff...Lizzy! I had a feeling that she'd know how to fight because of her family. It would've be odd for her entire family to know how to fight and protect themselves, and others, and for Lizzy not to. I'm glad she let that side of her show, though, but the most interesting part is that Lizzy seems to know that Ciel is the Queen's Watchdog. I hope that gets elaborated on more. I never had a prob with Lizzy's character, and I also never viewed her as "ditzy", just overly caring whenever it came to Ciel. It's nice to know that she can protect him just as much as he tries his best to protect her. XxPanda said: To be completely honest, I don't see how anyone could view the character in that way even prior to this chapter.OMG WTH!?!?! WOOOW I KNOW LONGER THINK OF LIZZIE AS A WASTE OF LIFE!!! XDDD Lizzy represents the innocence that Ciel once had. The innocence that he lost when his parents died. I think having Lizzy in the story is a nice contrast to show what Ciel's life could've been like, if he hadn't lost his parents and if he'd never met Sebastian or taken over the responsibilities of becoming the Queen's Watchdog. I found Lizzy to be a very important character because of Ciel himself. Too bad Ciel, himself, will never be the same innocent, happy boy that Lizzy seems to be trying to get back (the chapter where the zombies first showed up indicated that...the fact she was going out of her way to give Ciel his favorite dessert showed that). I never understood the hate when it came to her character. fairycrown said: I still don't understand why she was so hated in the first place.I'm glad to see some of the Lizzy-haters are starting to change their minds. Go, Lizzy, go! |
ssjup81May 21, 2011 12:12 AM
| Just echoing pretty much everyone else's comments about Lizzie's awesome 'coming out' XP |
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| Go Lizzy! 8D I've always liked her (though she had her annoying moments) and seeing how many people found her irritating always made me sad. I hope everyone sees how epic she is. I love girls with swords anyway. Go Lizzy! |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
XxPanda said: I didn't find her to be a waste of space because of the role she plays in Ciel's life and the role she seems to represent. The innocence he lost and the life he would've lived if none of this stuff had ever happened. To me a waste of space character is a character that is literally there to do nothing or represent nothing. Lizzy's never been that way.ssj said: XxPanda said: To be completely honest, I don't see how anyone could view the character in that way even prior to this chapter.OMG WTH!?!?! WOOOW I KNOW LONGER THINK OF LIZZIE AS A WASTE OF LIFE!!! XDDD Lizzy represents the innocence that Ciel once had. The innocence that he lost when his parents died. I think having Lizzy in the story is a nice contrast to show what Ciel's life could've been like, if he hadn't lost his parents and if he'd never met Sebastian or taken over the responsibilities of becoming the Queen's Watchdog. I found Lizzy to be a very important character because of Ciel himself. Too bad Ciel, himself, will never be the same innocent, happy boy that Lizzy seems to be trying to get back (the chapter where the zombies first showed up indicated that...the fact she was going out of her way to give Ciel his favorite dessert showed that). Okay, how about i rephrase that? To me, Lizzy was just a waste of space, i found her character to be rather annoying ¬_¬ with the whole 'oooh this is cute~~ XD' thing. it really got out of hand O_o but now she's doing something out of her character that sparked my interest ¬_¬ better now? xD |
ssjup81May 23, 2011 8:24 AM
Seibun said: she's too sugary sweet and doesn't seem to do much beside be a girly girl for most of the manga/anime. this is part of what annoys me about her haters, though-what's wrong with a little girl acting like a little girl? Does she only have any merit as a character now that we know she can fight? (I know that's not what you're saying, btw.) The people who treat her like a third wheel to Sebastian and Ciel is worse, but hating a female character for acting "girly" is almost as annoying. this isn't exactly how the fandom view her, but it's nearly right, and it's the first thing that comes to my mind when I hear people complaining about her being girly- http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealWomenNeverWearDresses |
Smochi said: Seibun said: she's too sugary sweet and doesn't seem to do much beside be a girly girl for most of the manga/anime. this is part of what annoys me about her haters, though-what's wrong with a little girl acting like a little girl? Does she only have any merit as a character now that we know she can fight? (I know that's not what you're saying, btw.) The people who treat her like a third wheel to Sebastian and Ciel is worse, but hating a female character for acting "girly" is almost as annoying. this isn't exactly how the fandom view her, but it's nearly right, and it's the first thing that comes to my mind when I hear people complaining about her being girly- http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealWomenNeverWearDresses This. |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
| um. that was like amazing. I never particularly enjoyed her scenes in the manga but that was just so cool. Loving the fact that in the future (if there is one), Ciel's gonna be surrounded by some damn strong people. And that last scene---bravo, bravo. |
"I've read so much manga that at times my mind works in comic panels and dramatically expressed chibis. I'm both ashamed and amused by this." |
Smochi said: Seibun said: she's too sugary sweet and doesn't seem to do much beside be a girly girl for most of the manga/anime. this is part of what annoys me about her haters, though-what's wrong with a little girl acting like a little girl? Does she only have any merit as a character now that we know she can fight? (I know that's not what you're saying, btw.) The people who treat her like a third wheel to Sebastian and Ciel is worse, but hating a female character for acting "girly" is almost as annoying. this isn't exactly how the fandom view her, but it's nearly right, and it's the first thing that comes to my mind when I hear people complaining about her being girly- http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealWomenNeverWearDresses In retrospect, it's not the "haters" fault for hating. Kuroshisuji attracts a particular type of audience-- one that enjoys blood, action, gore, and characters with eccentric and unique (as well as sadistic- don't lie!) personalities. Before this chapter, Lizzy was a girly cutesy character which by no means is a bad thing, it just didn't suit the "hater's" taste. I mean, if they enjoyed characters like Lizzy, they'd be reading a shoujo manga. But with that said, i'm not saying ALL kuroshitsuji fans disliked Lizzy's shoujo-esq personality because clearly, a lot of you have been supporters (or at least non-haters) since the beginning. I'm just trying to reason the hater's hate. I mean, you can't really blame someone for disliking characters that they're explicitly trying to avoid. Though I couldn't agree more with that article you linked. It was a fantastic read =) |
JasonbearMay 25, 2011 9:01 PM
"I've read so much manga that at times my mind works in comic panels and dramatically expressed chibis. I'm both ashamed and amused by this." |
| .... Yana, I love you. Oh dear god. That was something I least expected, but it's AWESOME. |
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| Did not see that coming. |
| I wasn't really expecting much from this chapter or the arc i was just going along with it but after this chapter i'm already wanting more ^^. Unlike others i didn't expect Lizzy to be as strong as the other members of her family but this rly made her charecter even more interesting.She is like the opposite of Ciel who acts all though and strong but in reality is rather weak and always depending on others. |
| AWW I always liked Lizzie but this time I rly adored her <3 GO Lizzie ! <3 |
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| Lizzie: I wanted you to think of me as cute until the very end. Ciel: LIZZY!! Me: OMG NO LIZZY! D8 *next page: Lizzy stabs zombie* Me: O.O ...what? Well played, Lizzy. Well played. Ciel has the best wife a man could ever need. And as for that zombie riding the undead carriage...I'm on a horse. XD |
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| Oh the blunders caused by "hot" love, silly grell! GAH, Ciel has a lot of man-ing up to do :)! Go lizzy! Its sweet how she played the innocent, beautiful face for ciel all this time. |
| OMG! lololol! Lizzie went crazy. God I love Kuroshitsuji. Amazing how it keeps getting better and better, guess the 2 months wait was worth it after all. Edit: I hated Lizzie too, now i'm not so sure. |
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| Yay Lizzie I guess. :) |
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| great twist lizzy 180 from helpless to badass was great^^ |
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| Wow, the scans look so HQ ^^ I love Lizzy's determination :D |
| I KNEW LIZZIE WAS BADASS xDDD EAT THIS, HATES >=D |
| I didn't really like Lizzy but she didn't bother me too much. She's funny. But I thought she was just useless. But now...Wow. 0.o You could of done that sooner but...T.T....WoW. Too bad she stays useless in the anime.(Oops wasn't supposed to talk about the anime.Bad me X) |
| Wow, I seriously thought she was about to die. And I was getting teary eyed! But I am very impressed! Lizzy has gained my respect. Ciel's cough is definitely suspicious. I'm nervous about what Yana is going to use it for. :((( |
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| I also thought that she was going to die then she just did what no one would have expected she kicked butt!! I just loved it!! |
| Always Smile. Stay Classy. |
| I always loved Lizzy because she was his fiance and indeed really cute, but it was sort of disappointing there wasn't much else besides that. There is finally a kick ass reason to claim to be a lizzy fan. |
animazed said: but where did those swords come from? I was thinking the same thing ._. |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
| I admit I'm not the biggest fan of Lizzy, but wow...that character development was what she needed. This chapter was as shocking as it was funny. "Who on earth is he?" "Just a pervert, my lady. I'm afraid it may be contagious, stay away from him." Ciel is so predictable though, he always has to fall from somewhere. But it surprised me a little when it was a vent. Wow. This has to be the only chapter I'm dissappointed in him. Usually you can count on him for being a badass, but he just sat there like a bum. Of course he had no other weapon but, good god I was hoping he'd bring some random weapon out like Lizzy did. Ciel you had better shape up >:( |
| "If you can't Inspire the World with Intellengence, Baffle them with your Bullshit." |
Shancakeschan said: Wow, I seriously thought she was about to die. And I was getting teary eyed! But I am very impressed! Lizzy has gained my respect. Ciel's cough is definitely suspicious. I'm nervous about what Yana is going to use it for. :((( Tuberculous? I've always loved Lizzy and this made me love her and the Ciel/Lizzy paring even more than I already do. I think she is beautiful while wielding swords. =D |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
Roloko said: Tuberculous? Oh god, I sure hope it's not tuberculosis. Oo I don't think it is though. Maybe another asthma attack? idk. |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
GracefulDownfall said: Roloko said: Tuberculous? Oh god, I sure hope it's not tuberculosis. Oo I don't think it is though. Maybe another asthma attack? idk. Pretty sure it's asthma. Badass Lizzy! I like that. I've always liked her for Ciel. Though I wonder where did she pulled of those swords? xD |
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ShoujoChrome said: GracefulDownfall said: Roloko said: Tuberculous? Oh god, I sure hope it's not tuberculosis. Oo I don't think it is though. Maybe another asthma attack? idk. Pretty sure it's asthma. Badass Lizzy! I like that. I've always liked her for Ciel. Though I wonder where did she pulled of those swords? xD From her dress of course, you can hide anything in dresses. lol XD |
| I read Manga in both English and Chinese. |
| holy fucking shit. I never would've thought Lizzy was such a badass. |
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