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| Wow. I don't have much to say except this whole show was just flawless. 10/10 |
Iri said: I'm pretty sure Kyubei himself says that the whole system was born from the potential of emotions. They can't produce magic because they lack emotions but humans have latent powers due to their emotions. All the Incubators (or whomever rules over them) did was create a system to unlock that potential into energy. That's where the "magic" comes from, just the energy created from human's emotions. They also grant wishes the same way, by using the energy they unlock from the wisher. They didn't just found some system lying around, they just created a system to convert emotions into power. kuroneko99 said: At least it wasn't quite as depressing as Ideon was, although I do agree the series placed a handicap on itself by using those two particular stock plot devices. The form of this runic response sort of brings up one question that I believe was left unanswered about about the runes. Were they (temporarily disregarding the fact that they turned out to be just a simple substitution cipher) the native language of the Incubators, or were they created by a third party unseen in the series? Perhaps I wasn't paying attention, but it was never completely clear to me whether the Incubators were the source of the "magic" (perhaps just highly advanced science) seen in the series or whether they merely served as the catalysts to unlock that potential in a certain subgroup of humans. If they simply uncovered something that was already there (the runes being part of it), then there seemed to be some other intelligence working in the background behind all of this. I might add, like a lot of people already pointed out, the monsters that showed up are the representation of despair that Madoka's wish created. QB tells us quite clearly that her wish cannot destroy despair, no matter how strong she is her power will always have a counter-force. She also can't stop the death of the universe either, not on her own at least. As such all she did was recreate the world and made it so ALL mahou shoujo would not turn to witches. Since the world restarts all of the characters are around (although if you want to be petty you could point out that the implications of that event could have easily meant that whole nations would never had been created or destroyed, and any of the characters could have easily never been born). Sayaka's appearance at the end has a few purposes: first we see that Madoka is personally picking up all mahou shoujo's once their Gems turn into Grief Seeds, we learn she's not as alone as QB implied since they all meet her at their death and they leave with her, and as the scene right after shows, they are still fighting but they now are really defenders of justice like Mami and Sayaka liked to believe rather than merely scavengers preying on grief seeds to survive one more day. |
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| EPIC. That's all. |
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| Fucking ten out of ten. |
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wheresthehandle said: kuroneko99 said:  Pardon? Deciphering the runes (^o^) kuroneko99 said: Episode ten and eleven are not so bad. But the last is crap like Ideon. It may be destined to fail since this anime includes two paradoxes: grant-any-wish system and time leap. Oshimai. |
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| A fantastic ending. However, you all knew this was coming sooner or later. |
| A beautiful ending. Didn't expect that but still loved it. |
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DuskGolem said: wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww That jpg made my day. |
| I didn't watch NGE so I understand people who is saying that it looks like a total rip-off and predictable! but ofcourse! kyousuke would think of sayaka duh~! she is not at the concert STUPID MORONS~! she died at the battle protecting his concert right?! now about the total rip-off about NGE.. this is portraying about the crucifixion of christ. don't you get the point?! its good friday! DUH~! did you really even think that its totally predictable?! STUPID~! THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION! |
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| Man, I never cry at shows but this one made me bawl. I feel so lame but I still don't care 'cause this show was awesome! |
etchel said: I didn't watch NGE so I understand people who is saying that it looks like a total rip-off and predictable! but ofcourse! kyousuke would think of sayaka duh~! she is not at the concert STUPID MORONS~! she died at the battle protecting his concert right?! now about the total rip-off about NGE.. this is portraying about the crucifixion of christ. don't you get the point?! its good friday! DUH~! did you really even think that its totally predictable?! STUPID~! THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION! I swear nobody has said this is a rip-off of Evangelion. |
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etchel said: If you call Madoka Magica in religious point of view, that's automatic failure since it really has no relationship at all. Think better before calling others stupid morons, you stupid moron. (...eh?)I didn't watch NGE so I understand people who is saying that it looks like a total rip-off and predictable! but ofcourse! kyousuke would think of sayaka duh~! she is not at the concert STUPID MORONS~! she died at the battle protecting his concert right?! now about the total rip-off about NGE.. this is portraying about the crucifixion of christ. don't you get the point?! its good friday! DUH~! did you really even think that its totally predictable?! STUPID~! THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION! Cthulhu, probably. |
Psychodrake said: etchel said: I didn't watch NGE so I understand people who is saying that it looks like a total rip-off and predictable! but ofcourse! kyousuke would think of sayaka duh~! she is not at the concert STUPID MORONS~! she died at the battle protecting his concert right?! now about the total rip-off about NGE.. this is portraying about the crucifixion of christ. don't you get the point?! its good friday! DUH~! did you really even think that its totally predictable?! STUPID~! THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION! I swear nobody has said this is a rip-off of Evangelion. how about making it, they are saying that it is a rip-off "UNCONSCIOUSLY" |
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etchel said: ...how can you even see or hear something 'unconscious'?...how about making it, they are saying that it is a rip-off "UNCONSCIOUSLY" ...If I recall, Madoka ending is not anything unique or whatever. Other nitro+ work such as Saya no uta and Demon Bane has similar vibe, Lain supposed to have very similar ending. It's just way it is presented, expressed and approached is just godly. |
ringoo4 said: etchel said: ...how can you even see or hear something 'unconscious'?...how about making it, they are saying that it is a rip-off "UNCONSCIOUSLY" try reading all the 24 pages thread post here LOL.. |
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etchel said: ...and you obviously haven't read them clearly if you think like that.ringoo4 said: etchel said: ...how can you even see or hear something 'unconscious'?...how about making it, they are saying that it is a rip-off "UNCONSCIOUSLY" try reading all the 24 pages thread post here LOL.. |
ringoo4 said: ...If I recall, Madoka ending is not anything unique or whatever. Other nitro+ work such as Saya no uta and Demon Bane has similar vibe, Lain supposed to have very similar ending. It's just way it is presented, expressed and approached is just godly. do you need to make a series religious to make a series unique? doesn't that make any sense at all? calling it unique means it has a gap, difference.. ringoo4 said: ...and you obviously haven't read them clearly if you think like that. maybe you should ask yourself before asking me right? |
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etchel said: There were only relatively few people who was actually mentioning its ending as 'rip-off of eva', and they weren't even supported well anyway most of the time.ringoo4 said: ...and you obviously haven't read them clearly if you think like that. maybe you should ask yourself before asking me right? |
ringoo4 said: etchel said: There were only relatively few people who was actually mentioning its ending as 'rip-off of eva', and they weren't even supported well anyway most of the time.ringoo4 said: ...and you obviously haven't read them clearly if you think like that. maybe you should ask yourself before asking me right? well I'm just defending the part of the anime.. the producers & director is just making things way too smooth for good production series and this is all they get? "f*ck the anime its totally predictable!" well at most cases YES! if your too genius and a logical thinker~! but mostly not all people can predict that.. so if its your opinion.. tell that its your opinion.. don't harass the anime. they just want to give you a good service and HELL~! BUY BLU-RAY A IF YOU WANNA COMPLAIN! |
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etchel said: Now I'm completely lost what you are saying due to grammar that is even worse than mine, but... Madoka Magica IS predictable. Foreshadowing was just there which was blatant even for me, who is the dumbest person in the world. Fans should all admit Mado Magi's predictability, but also realise that it did not affect quality of the series in anyway.ringoo4 said: There were only relatively few people who was actually mentioning its ending as 'rip-off of eva', and they weren't even supported well anyway most of the time. well I'm just defending the part of the anime.. the producers & director is just making things way too smooth for good production series and this is all they get? "f*ck the anime its totally predictable!" well at most cases YES! if your too genius and a logical thinker~! but mostly not all people can predict that.. so if its your opinion.. tell that its your opinion.. don't harass the anime. they just want to give you a good service and HELL~! BUY BLU-RAY A IF YOU WANNA COMPLAIN! |
ringoo4 said: etchel said: Now I'm completely lost what you are saying due to grammar that is even worse than mine, but... Madoka Magica IS predictable. Foreshadowing was just there which was blatant even for me, who is the dumbest person in the world. Fans should all admit Mado Magi's predictability, but also realise that it did not affect quality of the series in anyway.ringoo4 said: There were only relatively few people who was actually mentioning its ending as 'rip-off of eva', and they weren't even supported well anyway most of the time. well I'm just defending the part of the anime.. the producers & director is just making things way too smooth for good production series and this is all they get? "f*ck the anime its totally predictable!" well at most cases YES! if your too genius and a logical thinker~! but mostly not all people can predict that.. so if its your opinion.. tell that its your opinion.. don't harass the anime. they just want to give you a good service and HELL~! BUY BLU-RAY A IF YOU WANNA COMPLAIN! I'm surprised you could predict the end. Madoka erasing all witches and then demons (or w/e) taking place? Dang, you're good. |
| I wouldn't really consider Madoka to have won. Unless I completely missed your point. |
| I don't know why but I've an unsatisfying feeling.. |
potplant said: It is not about the exact content of the resolution, but the generic nature of it. There are just too many 'wishes' that rewrite laws of the world/recreate everything/reset, however it's not clever nor offer continuity. In effect, all the revelations before went to waste. You watch a movie about a chess game. One player's losing, with every step shown the situation is hopeless, then he just stands up and said "I WIN" and then he won, ends the movie. Great movie? All the build-up up to that point, are about denying possibilities, painting a hopeless situation, then out comes the reset button that just tears through all the established rules. Rather than a solution that rests on what the previous 10 episodes painstakingly built up, the solution did not NEED the previous 10 episodes. In fact the wish might as well be made in Ep1. Problem solved. Nothing revealed in the first 11 episodes offer any 'last puzzle' to enable the wish. Though it's explained why, the explanation is unnecessary because it is not as if Madaka's power to make the wish rests on she knowing the source of her potential. Nothing was really fixed though. The two things the show was trying to get across about itself and the world it takes place in are A) The balance between hope and despair stays constant at all times. B) You shouldn't go making deals with an unknown entity (sort of a 'make a deal with the devil' situation) in order to accomplish your goals. Madoka did not 'win' or fix anything, the amount of despair vs hope that remains in the universe after her wish did not change. She gave up her existance and gave hope to some, for this she put an equal amount of despair back in the world. Nothing was fixed or improved in the larger picture, just some of the specifics were altered. Is that even worth the burden she placed on herself? The anime stuck with its themes until the final moments of the series. You're so hung up on the despair because we were watching it from the perspective of the people who were shouldering the burden the most and not from the perspective of the people they were giving hope to. |
Solkiskey said: Not the last bit, but Madoka's wish has been huge Urobuchi bait since the start. Hence, I was thinking something along the line of 'removing/defeating all the witches' or line of 'becoming god' which Kyuube has already mentioned. Not in detail, but general aspect isn't that hard to predict, if you think this is pretty much the only way that this series can actually get a bit of 'happy ending'.I'm surprised you could predict the end. Madoka erasing all witches and then demons (or w/e) taking place? Dang, you're good. |
| Thank you, Madoka, you proved to me that not all characters using the word hope in almost every sentence are annoying. She unexpectedly ended up being pretty awesome, actually. I found the ending a little sad. Madoka did save the Magical Girls who were supposed to turn into witches, but nothing else changed. There are girls who still have to fight and die, but against other monsters. Well, Homura didn't seem to suffer as much as before, but she still won't get a good end. So it certainly wasn't a happy ending, but it was exactly what this show needed in my opinion. Too bad that Kyuubey didn't remember what happened, I'd have loved to hear what he thinks about the result. |
| I guess everything can be summarized by saying: Zero-sum is a bitch. But still, we should be able to add or subtract to either side of the equation: after all, light and darkness were never known to occupy the same place. But Madoka even takes that away. Overall, and this might be the thing I liked the least about Madoka, was the inability of the characters to do anything about anything. "It's like this, it was always like this, and you can't do anything about it even if you give your life a hundred times over". Specially with Kyubey's statements in Ep 11 about living in caves without him, everything sounds like an ode to human weakness and helplessness. Even a human who ascended to godhood was able to do little: hope, but little else. I try not to think about heavenly matters often, and that is for the most part because I think humanity is strong, with the millions of years of struggle and strife not having been able to bring us down. Apparently, not everything thinks like that. |
"Tonight, I sit in the eye of the storm. As fire boils around me, I press forward, winds and lightning lashing my wings. I am no match for what I face. Yet I will not back down, and though fear may place it's stranglehold on my heart, courage will see me through. With tears in my eyes, I hit full throttle. My engines become an inferno, and my weapons light up, awaiting my command. If I die tonight, I will do so fighting for everything I believe in."  |
| Well, for me this ending was quite predictable. Those who watched NGE would never be surprised by ending of such kind. But still the whole show was really AWESOME. Incredible and touching soundtrack. Heartbreaking words. And the whole f*cking great atmosphere of this world! I bet you'll remember this show for many years. Brilliant in its genre. Actually I really like when anime destroys the canons of its genre. But still 9/10. Thank you, SHAFT, that was really great! |
Thalos said: Nothing was really fixed though. The two things the show was trying to get across about itself and the world it takes place in are A) The balance between hope and despair stays constant at all times. B) You shouldn't go making deals with an unknown entity (sort of a 'make a deal with the devil' situation) in order to accomplish your goals. Madoka did not 'win' or fix anything, the amount of despair vs hope that remains in the universe after her wish did not change. She gave up her existance and gave hope to some, for this she put an equal amount of despair back in the world. Nothing was fixed or improved in the larger picture, just some of the specifics were altered. Is that even worth the burden she placed on herself? The anime stuck with its themes until the final moments of the series. I have to agree. The one constant theme throughout this series was that using "deal with the devil" situations to accomplish your goals don't end well. Even Madoka lost her very existence. Furthermore, Madoka's word choice of wanting to destroy the witches with her "own hands" placed her in control, shows that taking control of your hopes and dreams ultimately can lead to success. She paid the consequence for making her wish, but she achieved her dream because she took control and had accepted whatever consequence she would face. If it wasn't for her specific word choice, it may not have ended the way she was hoping. Also, there is rarely (if ever) a black or white answer to anything. Take the opinions people have of the ending of this very anime. Some loved it, some don't, some are okay with it, etc. It was addressed a few times during Madoka's discussions with Kyuube, especially when he explained the whole reason for "raising and harvesting" magical girls/witches and the controversy of his logic vs. human emotions was brought up. Do we sacrifice a few to save the masses? I've seen the argument that this debate was never answered. Well, can you really answer such a question? Often compromise is the only answer. In this case, the girls were spared suffering, but still faced sacrifice allowing Kyubee to carry out his plans to "save" the universe. Of course, (if I want to play my own devils advocate) you could also say the anime does reach a conclusion that sacrifice is necessary for the greater cause. Even though Madoka saved the hopes and dreams of the magical girls, they still died and therefore were sacrificed (Madoka herself was obviously a sacrifice). Either way, it's all up to interpretation and nothing is black and white. ;) I, personally was very satisfied with the ending, bittersweet though it may have been. Maybe it could have been better. It definitely could have been worse. And even if there are some predictable elements (most shows have at least a few) when an anime leaves me pondering for days on end, sitting on the edge of my seat, and emotionally involved to the degree Madoka did, it gets a good score in my book. |
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| a perfect way to end this, but a sequel is really needed. there is so much more to be done. but this end is very satisfying. |
| Wondrful, simply wonderful. 10/10, perfect ending for this series. And now excuse me, I have to get a tissue box... |
| Jojolion anime when? |
| The part towards the middle of the episode was just strange, where there were similarities to the ending of Evangelion, especially the part where Madoka flew all over the earth to random Mahou Shoujos and cured their grief seeds. It seems that part was intended to have an emotional impact but I just did not buy the connection between Madoka and these strangers, the global "care about the world" theme was just too forced. In general, I do not like it when shows that are so driven by the drama between it's characters try to grasp for connections to the greater world; sometimes it works, but it did not seem right this series. The end for Madoka was fitting though, if not entirely satisfactory, because of how many questions it seemed to leave: what will Homura and the others do, will they ever see Madoka again? What made this series really special was how much speculation went on week after week. This is the kind of show that you say "you had to be there" to understand, to marathon the series would be to take away that awesome communal aspect. In closing, the show's end did have an impact, and for other shows I would have been quite satisfied with it but if this show could grant me one wish I would ask for a different ending. |
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ringoo4 said: Solkiskey said: Not the last bit, but Madoka's wish has been huge Urobuchi bait since the start. Hence, I was thinking something along the line of 'removing/defeating all the witches' or line of 'becoming god' which Kyuube has already mentioned. Not in detail, but general aspect isn't that hard to predict, if you think this is pretty much the only way that this series can actually get a bit of 'happy ending'.I'm surprised you could predict the end. Madoka erasing all witches and then demons (or w/e) taking place? Dang, you're good. I think I'm the only one considering this a sort of dark ending. In the end, despair still exists. Maybe a solution was found, but more problems were created with that same solution. |
| Somebody, explain me the part about Sayaka. She dies 'cause she wants her beloved to live happily ----> then if she hadn't die, he would had had his arm damaged the whole life. Why won't she just continue being mahou shoujo for her dream to come true (like she did before)?? It was her own wish from the very beginning, it has no connection to Madoka's wish. Moreover, Madoka saves all humanity and Sayaka saves only one person, but they both have to disappear from this world. Is it logical? |
razor39999 said: Iit was apparently Madoka picking her up after she had depleted her soul gem in the new, recreated reality. That is how I understood it as well. She dies since she used up all of her energy. But, srsly, she's not the luckiest person, eh, they kill her off in every timeline/universe xD |
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| Oh, probably you are right. "All witches would die before they would even born". Sayaka could turn into a witch so she vanished. And I guess the reason why her soul gem was full of despair was Kyousuke again. Also Madoka may have same procedure with all potential witches. |
| There's something odd about that: how come Sayaka's spirit remembers Madoka? Are perhaps everyone's memories of Madoka simply locked away, and are unlocked when she comes for them? |
"Tonight, I sit in the eye of the storm. As fire boils around me, I press forward, winds and lightning lashing my wings. I am no match for what I face. Yet I will not back down, and though fear may place it's stranglehold on my heart, courage will see me through. With tears in my eyes, I hit full throttle. My engines become an inferno, and my weapons light up, awaiting my command. If I die tonight, I will do so fighting for everything I believe in." |
| When the world says, "Give up," Hope whispers, "Try it one more time." |
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| the part of madoka vanishing too isn't totally clear as well, i've understanded it was because she went to an other plane of existence and different planes seems disconnected(or rarely connect for a while) but it may be her existence of normal life still exists, it only got removed and moved to an other place, so when someone gets to the same plane, her existence is clear again like a puzzle where any piece is an existence, and madoka's piece got removed and moved away, i think if there was a way to bring madokas existence back her existence would fit in the whole automatically like she never left in a way her not being in the phisical world is a big distorsion, because at the corners of her missing existence there must happen something strange (like homura and her brother remembering her, homura is an exception because she is the only one with madoka to remember the old universe, since they moved from there) but it's also strange, when she have to remove a witch-to-be she is able to come to the phisical world and interact with it, or she's visible only to the MS she's bringing away?(since she sin't the one to come but are the MS to go to her making her visible?) thinking from the start, when she signed the contract, did she gain a timetravel + purifiing power(and i imagine some sort of immortality or she would have aged during her timetravel stops to purify MS), but her existence had nothing to do with her wish later when she exploded the universe with her own witch form in it, she "removed" her own end(killing the witch form) and kyubey said she also removed her own start the void of existence perceived i think is related to the removal of the "start" but how did she removed her start? she shifted from the original universe in which she gained her power(altering the events removing witched, removing warpurgis and so removing all the loops of homura, also removing kyubey wanting her as a MS, removing in the end her becoming one with the same wish ), so in the new universe she should not meet the conditions to sign a contract, but what has this to do with her existence? i didn't understanded this i think also the timetravel system of madoka and homura are a little different, homura always could stop and go back (we never saw if she could go on but her wish didn't included that) waking up in the past body, and the time she come back looks fixed by the wish too madoka didn't waked up in her past/future body(or her time range would not be able to reach all human history), but appeared from nowhere with her body at the right time, so each time she moved to a different time her existence moved too with her? while homura existence didn't moved, homura's coscience moved within her existence (i think...) edit. forgot madoka wished to remove witched not only in the past/future but aslo in any universe, that would explain her perception of time, but still apart the initial powers i don't get what would modify again madoka's existence making her out of perception of others |
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Solkiskey said: ringoo4 said: Solkiskey said: Not the last bit, but Madoka's wish has been huge Urobuchi bait since the start. Hence, I was thinking something along the line of 'removing/defeating all the witches' or line of 'becoming god' which Kyuube has already mentioned. Not in detail, but general aspect isn't that hard to predict, if you think this is pretty much the only way that this series can actually get a bit of 'happy ending'.I'm surprised you could predict the end. Madoka erasing all witches and then demons (or w/e) taking place? Dang, you're good. I think I'm the only one considering this a sort of dark ending. In the end, despair still exists. Maybe a solution was found, but more problems were created with that same solution. You're not alone, I feel the same way. In the end the hope and despair in the world remained balanced, the only real difference is that pretty much everyone is dead (Mami's and Kyoko's absence after they revived tells me they disappeared as well after awhile) and the mahou shoujos of the past had their history rewriten to a better outcome. In the end despite Kyubey harvesting energy at a slower rate he was the one who had the best outcome of the entire main cast. The main character of the show gave up her existance in order to become a god-like entity and shoulder the burden of every witch in history herself and in the end it barely achieved anything. It basically just shifted where the grief accumulated from and what form it took as it accumulated. That's pretty heavy to me. But this is why I liked the ending. They weren't afraid to stay true to the anime and after thinking about it I think this is probably the best ending for the story. |
Thalos said: Solkiskey said: ringoo4 said: Solkiskey said: Not the last bit, but Madoka's wish has been huge Urobuchi bait since the start. Hence, I was thinking something along the line of 'removing/defeating all the witches' or line of 'becoming god' which Kyuube has already mentioned. Not in detail, but general aspect isn't that hard to predict, if you think this is pretty much the only way that this series can actually get a bit of 'happy ending'.I'm surprised you could predict the end. Madoka erasing all witches and then demons (or w/e) taking place? Dang, you're good. I think I'm the only one considering this a sort of dark ending. In the end, despair still exists. Maybe a solution was found, but more problems were created with that same solution. You're not alone, I feel the same way. In the end the hope and despair in the world remained balanced, the only real difference is that pretty much everyone is dead (Mami's and Kyoko's absence after they revived tells me they disappeared as well after awhile) and the mahou shoujos of the past had their history rewriten to a better outcome. In the end despite Kyubey harvesting energy at a slower rate he was the one who had the best outcome of the entire main cast. The main character of the show gave up her existance in order to become a god-like entity and shoulder the burden of every witch in history herself and in the end it barely achieved anything. It basically just shifted where the grief accumulated from and what form it took as it accumulated. That's pretty heavy to me. But this is why I liked the ending. They weren't afraid to stay true to the anime and after thinking about it I think this is probably the best ending for the story. As I said before, I liked the ending, but for this, I turn to what I said in the last page: everything turned out to be a monumental ode to human weakness and helplessness, and that annoys me. Giving Madoka's wish a (slightly) more beneficial outcome wouldn't be a betrayal to the anime: it would show that while despair will always exist, humanity as a whole and Puellas in particular can do something about, no matter how little. But the way things ended, and adding to that Kyuubey's statements in ep 11, it's like humans (and, in a way, every being in the universe) are feeble beings with no power over their own destiny, let alone the universe's. |
"Tonight, I sit in the eye of the storm. As fire boils around me, I press forward, winds and lightning lashing my wings. I am no match for what I face. Yet I will not back down, and though fear may place it's stranglehold on my heart, courage will see me through. With tears in my eyes, I hit full throttle. My engines become an inferno, and my weapons light up, awaiting my command. If I die tonight, I will do so fighting for everything I believe in." |
| I didn't like the statement that without their intervention we'd still be in caves as it's very unrealistic, but like I said before I think a large part of what the anime was getting at was if you want something done it should be done with your own power. Being tempted into making a wish with the devil (no I'm not calling Kyubey evil or the devil, but I think the statement is fitting for this anime all the same) to solve your problems will not accomplish anything, no matter how noble you think the wish being made is. No matter what wish Madoka had ended up making there's no doubt it would have been twisted in some way. It's simply true that without Kyubey, Madoka would not have been able to accomplish anything so grand as she's just a single human being and making a contract with a higher being shouldn't be the answer to solve all of our problems. In that sense it does bring up how powerless a person is, but isn't that the truth? Even if we give up our lives we're not always able to accomplish what it is we want to accomplish. Homura said it in episode 7, an entire life usually isn't enough to bring about a miracle. By the way, the nico stream should have aired by now right? Does anyone know if there were any significant changes? |
| This series was so bad that it took the whole series for the main character to realize that she had to wish for the witches to disappear. Congratulation Madoka, you have just proven that you're not an idiot, though it took you 12 episodes to realize the logic thing to do. Mahou Shoujo Madoka, you tried to be Evangelion version magical girl, you probably failed but the show's a gold mine right now so I won't blame Shaft for doing business. |
Valaskjalf said: This series was so bad that it took the whole series for the main character to realize that she had to wish for the witches to disappear. Congratulation Madoka, you have just proven that you're not an idiot, though it took you 12 episodes to realize the logic thing to do. Mahou Shoujo Madoka, you tried to be Evangelion version magical girl, you probably failed but the show's a gold mine right now so I won't blame Shaft for doing business. Great example of an idiot. Carry on people. |
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| At first I was quite disappointed. I needed two hours to get the way it ended, at least partially. Not the kind of ending I actually expected. I really expected despaired ending, all the series were leading there. What actually happened can't be exactly explained, not by just few words. It's really the kind of bittersweet ending, but why? Madoka did the impossible and in the same way she didn't. Madoka effectively divided everything by Zero... Yes, she kinda did that, but not really. She merely switched the universe from chaotic place to ordered one or maybe the opposite. She created new world by changing the rules. In the end she didn't really changed anything, just the way things go around. Probably it's not that despaired fate to be a Pulla Magi now. So what has she done? Nothing. Yes, hope and despair will always exist. No matter how strong Madoka is, she can't change that. Our lives have meaning because of the contrasts. What about Madoka herself, her sacrifice and the people she's helping to? She sacrificed her soul for wish that is impossible to be fulfilled. But just like Kyuko said, to be Puella Magi is about to pay for your wish. Madoka, by being something like impersonification of the pure hope, wished for something impossible and has lost everything, by ceasing to exist. She didn't really saved us, but she barely gave us illustration of what we must strive to. It's about for us to fight for our dreams, to be devoted to the path of reaching them, to our very end.That's how(much) I get it to now. I didn't really expected the kind of The Matrix/Wolf's Rain ending, but if done well such an ends has the much sense compared to every other. I was actually thinking on this matter for quite some time, last few months, and now I have clearer look on it. I'm sure I loved the ending, though of the strange feeling it leaves. It must be known, though, that if we look to Wolf's rain(or how it ended, actually) it's really possible for there not to be any sequel and even spin-offs. 10/10, evaluation didn't change. This is the best anime for 2010~2011. |
MeritasApr 25, 2011 2:06 AM
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Draziell said: Why you guys like this anime so much? Why the majority gives a 9 or 10? Seriously, explain to me. Thank you. I think it is self explanatory, the people who rated Madoka the 9-10 because they felt that the series is "great" to "masterpiece". Now if you rate the show 7 that means that you felt the show is "good" just not great/masterpiece as how other people felt on it. |
GhostalkerApr 24, 2011 8:37 PM
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Aha. It seems there was omitted segment from MBS broadcast. This will explain why it had to delay its release in terms of Japanese's media nature.   This is exact replica of earthquake/tsunami refuge status. Unrelated, but also... this bit which was censored... ;_;  Homura... ;_; |
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